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Title: Nintendo Releases New Zangeki no Reginleiv Trailer
Post by: NWR_Lindy on December 23, 2009, 06:47:28 PM
Watch out for falling limbs.
 http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=20610

 Nintendo's upcoming action title Zangeki no Reginleiv (Dynamic Slash) has a new trailer, featuring Norse deities Freyja and Freyr going up against some nasty giants.  This is the first Nintendo game ever to be rated CERO D in Japan, primarily due to the blood-soaked manner in which you can use Wii MotionPlus to sever the limbs of your enemies.    



   


Zangeki no Reginleiv also supports the Classic Controller, and boasts four-player online co-op play.  It is developed by Sandlot (creators of Earth Defence Force), and is scheduled for Japanese release on February 11, 2010.

Title: Re: Nintendo Release New Zangeki no Reginleiv Trailer
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 23, 2009, 08:09:42 PM
I really hope Nintendo sent some of their best programmers  and pulled every graphical trick in the book out for this title. This is their latest attempt and pleasing the core and a bar raising(for the Wii) graphical presentation would let everyone know that Nintendo is not playing around and they are very capable of providing the type of graphical experience that most of Nintendo's games traditionally lack.
Title: Re: Nintendo Release New Zangeki no Reginleiv Trailer
Post by: NWR_Lindy on December 23, 2009, 10:36:30 PM
The problem is that this game appears to be a niche title.  It's like a Fire Emblem game without the cult following to back it.
Title: Re: Nintendo Release New Zangeki no Reginleiv Trailer
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 23, 2009, 10:50:11 PM
Doesn't mean they can't make it appeal to peoples shallowest perceptions of graphical prowess and present the game in a way that will appeal visually to the core even if it's not exactly showing the game for what it is. That's marketing and it's worked pretty well for lots of other games.
Title: Re: Nintendo Release New Zangeki no Reginleiv Trailer
Post by: NWR_Lindy on December 23, 2009, 11:05:17 PM
Not if those titles don't have the gameplay to go along with the graphics.  Last time I checked, "The Core" also likes exceptional gameplay.  See: Modern Warfare 2.
Title: Re: Nintendo Release New Zangeki no Reginleiv Trailer
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 24, 2009, 01:00:28 AM
It's Nintendo, we already expect exceptional gameplay.
Now it's time to market to the graphic whores, the Nintendo faithful will probably buy just to support the effort if the game is any good.
Title: Re: Nintendo Release New Zangeki no Reginleiv Trailer
Post by: Urkel on December 24, 2009, 02:30:52 AM
The graphics are probably about as good as you can expect considering everything that's going on. Dozens (hundreds?) of characters on screen plus some rather large environments.
Title: Re: Nintendo Release New Zangeki no Reginleiv Trailer
Post by: KDR_11k on December 24, 2009, 02:40:46 AM
Quote from: BlackNMild2k1 on December 23, 2009, 08:09:42 PM
I really hope Nintendo sent some of their best programmers  and pulled every graphical trick in the book out for this title.

If you do that with a Sandlot title you're going to get a framerate that would embarrass a powerpoint presentation. They already spend all the system power and then some on throwing 100 colossus-sized enemies at you.

Quote from: NWR_Lindy on December 23, 2009, 10:36:30 PM
The problem is that this game appears to be a niche title.  It's like a Fire Emblem game without the cult following to back it.

It has the EDF cult following.

Quote from: NWR_Lindy on December 23, 2009, 11:05:17 PM
Not if those titles don't have the gameplay to go along with the graphics.  Last time I checked, "The Core" also likes exceptional gameplay.  See: Modern Warfare 2.

MW2 exceptional gameplay? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
All MW2 has going for it is the tons of unlockables it has that trigger the gotta-catch-em-all mentality, it's a terrible competitive game with the unlocks and a terrible team game with the whole killstreak whoring that encourages hero mentalities.
Title: Re: Nintendo Release New Zangeki no Reginleiv Trailer
Post by: NWR_Lindy on December 24, 2009, 08:38:44 AM
Figured I'd get that reaction from somebody, that's why I added that in there.  Yes, as much as it galls you KDR, MW2's gameplay is airtight.  That's why it's a hit and many other FPSes have fallen by the wayside.
Title: Re: Nintendo Release New Zangeki no Reginleiv Trailer
Post by: KDR_11k on December 24, 2009, 09:35:08 AM
It's not airtight, it just works well enough. I don't believe gameplay was the big factor why MW2 is more popular than other FPSes considering it doesn't play better and only has a pavlovian machine going for it, it sold on the strength of CoD4 (supposedly that had a very strong SP campaign too) and no major fuckups since then (except for dedicated servers, javelin glitch, OP dual shotguns, witchbladers, ... but except for the really annoying matchmaking system and the host migrations those aren't THAT major in their impact). It's really suspicious how many "yay, you rule!" praises the game vomits at you for every frag, sometimes I get modifiers for my frag popping up for like 10 seconds after the kill. It really seems to be all about making you feel like the hero, flying on a plane fragging everyone in sight, not really much about playing seriously. Just a casual game designed to make you feel good, not a tough game to challenge your abilities and especially not a team game that requires working together (not that random matchups ever work together, maybe that's how the game succeeds: Teamwork doesn't apply but a team always means someone else to blame for the loss).

I won't hold the fuckwits who complain about "campers" in a domination match against the game though.
Title: Re: Nintendo Release New Zangeki no Reginleiv Trailer
Post by: Caliban on December 24, 2009, 09:45:26 PM
As much as MW2 is polished it still lacks button customization, but that's just my opinion.
Title: Re: Nintendo Release New Zangeki no Reginleiv Trailer
Post by: KDR_11k on December 25, 2009, 05:04:01 AM
Huh? Pretty sure there was a keybinding menu in the options. They're just overloaded as **** though, there's no way to switch from the rifle GL to your secondary weapon without going to the straight primary first.
Title: Re: Nintendo Release New Zangeki no Reginleiv Trailer
Post by: Caliban on December 25, 2009, 10:38:44 AM
I know for PC you can, but not for PS3/360 which is what I meant... my bad.
Title: Re: Nintendo Release New Zangeki no Reginleiv Trailer
Post by: KDR_11k on December 25, 2009, 11:16:22 AM
Is the game even playable on the consoles? Considering how little time you have from spotting an enemy to having to open fire the console controls would seriously break it, no?
Title: Re: Nintendo Release New Zangeki no Reginleiv Trailer
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 25, 2009, 10:51:49 PM
Console FPSs run on Easier Than Hero Modes.  Enemies usually MISS the first shots, and as a modern soldier you have the advantage of LIFE METERS to offset the additional time it takes aim less-than-properly.
Title: Re: Nintendo Release New Zangeki no Reginleiv Trailer
Post by: KDR_11k on December 26, 2009, 03:11:59 AM
Not in multiplayer.
Title: Re: Nintendo Release New Zangeki no Reginleiv Trailer
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 26, 2009, 03:20:09 AM
In multiplayer, you have the safety cushion called lag, for better or worse.
Title: Re: Nintendo Release New Zangeki no Reginleiv Trailer
Post by: Caliban on December 26, 2009, 04:26:56 PM
Quote from: KDR_11k on December 25, 2009, 11:16:22 AM
Is the game even playable on the consoles? Considering how little time you have from spotting an enemy to having to open fire the console controls would seriously break it, no?

Indeed, on a console the aiming response isn't as quick when compared to the aiming response of a mouse. To me it doesn't make much of a difference, but that's because I'm an average skilled player.

My complaint isn't the aiming, it's that knifing is mapped to R3 (which is also R2 and is used for aiming). R3 is quite sensitive on PS3, so a lot of times for me when I try to do a quick unexpected aim, R3 is accidently pressed, which causes the knifing animation, which by the time I'm about to actually aim and shoot I'm already dead.

Quote from: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 26, 2009, 03:20:09 AM
In multiplayer, you have the safety cushion called lag, for better or worse.

For worse in 99.999999999999999% of games played.