Miyamoto's comments are directed towards motion controllers announced by Microsoft and Sony for their current gaming consoles, the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. Both companies made a splash at E3 2009 in June by unveiling their motion controllers. Project Natal, the Xbox 360 motion controller is not actually a controller at all, but rather a movement-tracking camera. The PS3 motion controller, codenamed Sphere, is similar to the Wii Remote in that it is a wand separate from the main controller. When asked if Nintendo would lose its uniqueness when the competition launched their motion controllers, Miyamoto responded "If everyone else is going to do exactly the same thing, unfortunately in this entertainment business that means less uniqueness, and uniqueness is what Nintendo has tried to realize. When you say that one element of our uniqueness might have been lost, you don't really have to be concerned about that, because Nintendo always tries to find something new. I hope you are looking forward to our challenge to discover this new uniqueness!"
Project Natal and the Sony PS3 Motion Controller are both scheduled for release in 2010. The full interview with Miyamoto is available in the 50th issue of Official Nintendo Magazine.
I hope you are looking forward to our challenge to discover this new uniqueness!"
ONM changed their article. Their tagline originally said that Miyamoto said that it wasn't good for the business; now it says that he wasn't sure if it was good for business.
So you admit to copy/pasting the article without reading it first?
So you admit to copy/pasting the article without reading it first?
So you admit to posting without reading my comment first? They changed their article content after our article went live. Our article reflects the original article content. We didn't copy/paste, but it's an original source, so I don't even understand how your question relates to the problem. Also, I didn't write the article. Stop being a troll.
ONM changed their article. Their tagline originally said that Miyamoto said that it wasn't good for the business; now it says that he wasn't sure if it was good for business.
It's good for the industry, because it will push Nintendo to further differentiate itself from the new competition.
Given thats its almost 2010, and we really haven't seen much of the new motion controllers, I'm thinking MS and Sony aren't going to make much of a push here (especially considering Sony doesn't even have a name yet!). I expect these projects to go down a similar road Tony Hawk Ride has gone. Until the next consoles are released I'm sure Nintendo will remain in the lead with MS and Sony lucky to find the wake.
BnM, we get "all serious about it" because all you do is troll the hell out of our news coverage day in and day out.
We post things later than other sites, you troll us. We post things quickly that change under us, you "jokingly" troll us for inaccuracy. It just gets old.
That sounds like a quality control disaster. Kind of like the quality control disaster that created the first crash.
didn't Sega show us all that making your next console an addition to your current one is suicide?
So maybe you should check your comment before you comment on the comment commenting on your comment ;)
Going back to the original topic, and the accusation of sensationalism, I will accept the guilt for that one. I've revised the article title to more accurately reflect the quote from the source. My mistake was in misinterpreting the quote, not in attempting to put words in Mr. Miyamoto's mouth. You have my apologies, and I'll do my best to make sure it doesn't happen again.
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You seem to really want it, but the core gaming market is not going anywhere.
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You seem to really want it, but the core gaming market is not going anywhere.
The videogame crash was a result of companies using strategies that involved conning people into buying junk and then having business go in the toilet once their customers wised up. Any future crash will be caused by the same thing. Only casuals are ignorant enough to be the victim of such tactics. Any crash will come about by targetting casuals and making no real effort to please them.
The HDTV is not be big cost factor (you don't need one to play these games anyway). The overuse of DLC and overexploitation of franchises is. Look at Guitar Hero, for example, that got overexploited and is dying. Activision puts more teams on CoD to exploit it more, while it may go up for a game or two (though it's likely that MW2 is the peak) expect a drop too.
More importantly the aging population means fewer people enter the demographic core games are aimed at than leave it. There's little effort put into expanding the appeal of core games beyond that demographic. The development of the demographics is pretty predictable (one year's 15 year olds are the next year's 16 year olds) so the decline can be predicted already. Gaming has followed the population growth for the last two decades, the core market grew with the population and will shrink with it. While gaming as a whole will never die the console game industry just might.
How can you be so certain of that? Last I checked Wii sales are very concentrated on specific games which suggests the buying patterns are not random but informed, the sales rise fairly slowly after release as the biggest advertising to these people is via word of mouth (and games like Carnival Games sold because people were happy with their purchase and suggested it to others).
On the other hand, core games are hyped to high heaven, sell a ton for a week and then quickly fade into obscurity. It's happened plenty of times that core gamers got duped into buying garbage through hype (the example of Enter The Matrix will forever ring in my mind) and there's plenty of bribery going on to distort previews and reviews so that what we are informed about is just what the marketers want us to know.
This obsession with seeing the "hardcore market" die is very very strange. Where did it start? Though Malstrom is the high priest of the movement I'd guess it's roots started elsewhere.
Facts are always twisted to meet the argument at hand.QuoteThis obsession with seeing the "hardcore market" die is very very strange. Where did it start? Though Malstrom is the high priest of the movement I'd guess it's roots started elsewhere.
The hardcore market must die because it clashes with Nintendo's casual focus and Nintendo is always right. It's no different than how CDs, FMV, RPGs, and online gaming were at some point all evil and horrible. Because Nintendo didn't support them so they must suck because surely perfect Nintendo would never deny its fans something that is actually worthwhile.
Rare was the greatest developer in the world until Nintendo sold them to Microsoft and now they suck and have always sucked and their old games that we all loved were overrated and we were mistaken in liking them. Same with Square who used to be awesome, then they sucked, then they developed games for Nintendo again so they were awesome, except when they make games for the competition like Final Fantasy XIII which will obviously suck.
HD will be awesome when Nintendo starts supporting it. Sales didn't matter when Nintendo was in last place but now that they're in first, sales are everything. Reviews used to be everything back when Nintendo got the most favourable reviews but now that they don't, reviews are full of **** and don't mean anything.
It is nothing new and is not even specific to Nintendo.
Do you think that hardcore gamers will look at their watch and suddenly say, "Oh! I just turned 40, I guess I can't play Modern Warfare 2 anymore, I have to start playing Minesweeper and Solitaire...I would play Peggle but I suddenly can't grasp its complex control scheme." It doesn't work that way. If you're a hardcore gamer at 20, you'll be a gamer at 30, 40, and beyond.
Your assumption that these purchases are informed is just that - an assumption. Wow, people buy Mario games and Wii Fit. How informed does somebody need to be to buy those games? Everybody knows those franchises, or has seen them profiled in USA Today. Muramasa selling through the roof would be an informed buying decision. Would you consider somebody buying Halo 3 if they owned a 360 an "informed" buying decision? I wouldn't. That game was advertised with McDonald's Happy Meals.
I don't know, I'd hardly say that games like Grand Theft Auto IV and Call of Duty 4 "fade into obscurity". If anything, they keep selling thanks to price drops. Call of Duty 4: Game of the Year Edition for PS3 was a deal on Amazon yesterday for $25, and guess what? It sold out no problem.
Furthermore, hardcore gamers are the tastemakers - casuals come to THEM to find out what they should buy. A friend of mine asked me about Uncharted 2 the other day because he wasn't sure about it, and I told him it was amazing. He bought it and he loves it. Don't think that hardcore gamers are this elite cadre of people that don't talk to casual gamers...it couldn't be further from the truth. If anything, they use their expertise to recommend "hardcore" titles to casuals, and set trends simply by letting people know what they're playing.
This obsession with seeing the "hardcore market" die is very very strange. Where did it start? Though Malstrom is the high priest of the movement I'd guess it's roots started elsewhere.
What a ridiculous straw man. No, people don't drop out of the core from one day to the next but they may look at their schedule and see that between their job, spouse and children they shouldn't be spending hours on the gaming system all alone, either they play something that the family can participate in or they just quit big gaming altogether and only play games during the coffee break at work because they've got more important things to spend their free time on.
I can tell you that if a true casual came up to me and I recommended him a core game he'd not be satisfied. You give advice to uninformed core gamers, those can easily play a third person shooter with killing and everything, they aren't casual gamers as the term is currently used. I can throw World of Goo, Prof. Layton, Plants vs Zombies or Wii Sports at people who have never gamed before (outside of Tetris maybe) and they'll enjoy it, even a basic FPS completely overwhelms them and the thought of graphical violence is repulsive to them because they haven't been desensitized to it.
Golden Phoenix just dropped out of gaming, what hope is there for the rest of us?it's plural
Also, Lindy buy a big block of text up there that was too long to read, but did he say the Lindemanns have babies on the way?
I might buy it for my kids
The PS3, it only does everything!Is it powered my nanomachines?
