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Title: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: KDR_11k on August 23, 2009, 03:39:55 AM
The amount of arrogance Activision is spewing over MW2 is ridiculous. First they raise the price and brag about how they want to raise it even higher, now they're claiming it'll be the best selling game ever. If they're serious about that I'll expect a landfill because there's just no way they're going to sell more than 47 million copies (the current record) when the userbase is 50 million HD consoles (minus overlap) and the PC market. Hell, even 20 million looks questionable.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 23, 2009, 05:00:21 AM
They claimed that it was gonna be the best selling game ever before they said they wanted to raise the price higher. But without a Wii & DS version, it won't even come close to the best selling game this generation, unless MW2 is gonna become a subtitled franchise(kinda like SFII)
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: broodwars on August 23, 2009, 05:11:24 AM
If Activision thinks they're going to outsell Wii Sports they're sadly mistaken.
Activision's the biggest 3rd party company this generation and they know it, so it's not surprising in the least that they're more than a little arrogant right now.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 23, 2009, 05:19:26 AM
Oh how the arrogant shall fall.... I wonder what the cause of their fall from grace shall be.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 23, 2009, 05:20:50 AM
Oh how the arrogant shall fall.... I wonder what the cause of their fall from grace shall be.
No core market exit plan, they'll get swallowed by the implosion.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Plugabugz on August 23, 2009, 08:12:49 AM
The way how Activision have evolved into this arrogant blatantly-money-grabbing monster from last generation is amazing.
They might as well say "We're going to make lots of money because you will give it to us! COMPLY".
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Caliban on August 23, 2009, 09:15:59 PM
I so want Infinity Ward to leave Activision.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: D_Average on August 23, 2009, 09:21:49 PM
Best selling game ever Activision? lulz. The reason people went nuts for Modern Warfare was it looked completely different than the 30 million WW2 shooters before it. MW2 looks like more of the same now. Simply history repeating itself.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 23, 2009, 10:51:14 PM
MW2 isn't even going to be the best-selling game of the year, let alone all time. It does have a decent shot at being the best selling game of 2009 that doesn't have the word Wii in the title, but I'd still probably give the edge to Beatles Rock Band. Probably at least one of those two will be in the overall top 5.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 23, 2009, 11:09:32 PM
Overall Top 5 of what? The year? Holiday 2009?
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 24, 2009, 12:09:51 AM
I was talking about 2009.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: kraken613 on August 24, 2009, 01:41:02 AM
$60 on PC. LOL at Activision! Way to encourage piracy!
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 24, 2009, 02:05:32 AM
You can't compare any game's sales to Wii Sports. As far as best selling 3rd party game - quite possible. It'll do better than Beatles Rock Band - here's an example, I'm going to get MW2, and not the Beatles.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 24, 2009, 02:12:25 AM
As far as best selling 3rd party game - quite possible. It'll do better than Beatles Rock Band - here's an example, I'm going to get MW2, and not the Beatles.
Actually, Blur will outsell them both. I'm picking that up instead of Beatles RB or MW2.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: KDR_11k on August 24, 2009, 02:50:37 AM
Pah, I'll buy Professor Layton 2 and that'll trash them all!
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 25, 2009, 12:30:12 AM
I'm just saying Beatles Rock Band caters to a very, very specific audience, MW2 has much broader appeal. I'm a Rock Band/Guitar Hero whore myself, I just don't really like the Beatles that much.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: D_Average on August 25, 2009, 12:35:40 AM
I'm just saying Beatles Rock Band caters to a very, very specific audience
Where did you grow up? I'm the only one I've ever met who likes the Beatles but isn't crazy over them. The game will definitely sell very well, but I don't see too many 18 and under customers going for it.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 25, 2009, 02:19:53 AM
I don't see too many in the younger than 30 crowd buying it, unless they were buying it for someone older than 30, like a parent or something.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: KDR_11k on August 25, 2009, 04:43:03 AM
I'm just saying Beatles Rock Band caters to a very, very specific audience, MW2 has much broader appeal.
Wait, you're saying realistic war has a broader appeal than the Beatles?
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Halbred on August 25, 2009, 03:02:53 PM
"Now, would you kindly buy our overhyped, overpriced game?"
Actually, it hurts to say this, but I kind of want the "Prestige" Edition. Those NVG's will come in handy for me. Up in the winter in Alaska, it gets pitch black. I often get up in the middle of the night to pee, and there are two problems:
1) I might trip over one of two dogs; and 2) Turning on the light in the 'loo is like blinding myself; so
NVG's could help me navigate my way to the toilet in the black of night. No, I'm not kidding.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: vudu on August 25, 2009, 03:08:53 PM
Just get a catheter, attach the drainage bag to your sweat pants and be done with it.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 25, 2009, 03:09:44 PM
I hear they are likely Fisher Price quality, only not as durable.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 25, 2009, 03:18:01 PM
No, but I'm saying for a gaming audience, an extremely polished multiplayer FPS has broader appeal than a (extremely polished as well) Beatles music game. MW2 will sell just as well as MW, if not (much) better, Beatles Rock Band will sell less than Rock Band 2 or GHWT.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Stogi on August 25, 2009, 04:08:37 PM
Wow that's absolutely retarded. There isn't one instance I can think of in my entire 22 years of living that I could have used night vision goggles. It's especially moot when I can turn on my phone's light.
That said, it'd be pretty badass if I had 4 of them and played some 2 v 2 paintball.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 25, 2009, 04:25:52 PM
Man, your youth really shows there.
Night vision is good for peeping in total darkness when stealth is a concern.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 25, 2009, 04:37:30 PM
aka Night Stalking
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Stogi on August 25, 2009, 04:47:20 PM
And paintball at night doesn't fit that somehow?
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 25, 2009, 05:02:06 PM
he means from inside his sister's closet during one of her slumber parties.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: KDR_11k on August 25, 2009, 05:39:55 PM
Actually, it hurts to say this, but I kind of want the "Prestige" Edition. Those NVG's will come in handy for me.
Considering they're making more expensive editions so they can make more profit from the hardcore fans I doubt the NVGs are even close to the price difference between the regular and prestige edition and you might be better off getting them from somewhere else.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Stogi on August 25, 2009, 05:55:08 PM
he means from inside his sister's closet during one of her slumber parties.
So is he implying that as you get older, you get more desperate? :-P
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: vudu on August 26, 2009, 02:46:12 PM
He's implying Pro's sister is hot.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Ymeegod on August 27, 2009, 05:23:39 PM
Actually WII sports doesn't count because it was a bundled game--so you looking at maybe mario kart WII (though that did come with a crappy $5 wheel) which sold 17 millionish. Modern Warfare hit somewhere's in the 15millionish so it's not to far fetch to see the sequel to do similar and if you look at pre-orders it's right on track. Getting loads of pre-orders even though it's $10 higher--but yeah I'm not ordering it--I'm a CAG member and proud of it. The good news I hope is Modern Warfare price drop--it's nearly 3 years old and it's still marked nearly fully retailed price.
It's to bad you won't be using the nightvision glasses for actual gameplay.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: KDR_11k on August 28, 2009, 07:33:12 AM
Even if MKWii did 17 million, Wii Fit and NSMB did over twenty each.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Morari on August 28, 2009, 09:36:33 AM
I'm just saying Beatles Rock Band caters to a very, very specific audience, MW2 has much broader appeal.
Wait, you're saying realistic war has a broader appeal than the Beatles?
War is over if you want it.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Halbred on August 28, 2009, 04:44:13 PM
Modern Warfare is full price because they stopped making standard editions and only print "Game of the Year" editions with new map packs and all the firmware updates. Frankly, I don't want the map packs. CoD4 was one of the games I sold with my PS3, and I'll miss it, but I figure I can pick up a used copy 4 cheep, and Modern Warfare 2 will probably make me forget about the first game come November.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: KDR_11k on August 29, 2009, 05:07:56 AM
Modern Warfare is full price because they stopped making standard editions and only print "Game of the Year" editions with new map packs and all the firmware updates.
Ah, the Valve strategy...
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Ymeegod on August 29, 2009, 05:44:59 PM
WII FIt again is bundled software with hardware not stand alone--almost 4 million of those sales came from it being bundled with the WII hardware--since you don't live stateside you missed alot of stores like gamestop fooking the customers. Last x-mas the WII's had a shortage again and alot of these retailers "made" you buy the bundle.
And what game is NSMB? New Super Mario Bro? That's not released yet?
So like I said as per game sold, MK WII is still the top seller even though it did bundled with the cheap wheel. After that I think Smash Brothers comes next at 10 millionish sold.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 29, 2009, 06:17:13 PM
Wii Fit does not count as bundled software, the only thing that counts as that this generation is the original Wii Sports.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Ymeegod on August 29, 2009, 06:37:28 PM
"Wii Fit does not count as bundled software,"
Like I stated, retailers bundled the game to the hardware--point 2 it's still hardware it's a balance board. You couldn't buy just the board in case you wanted to play that snow boarding game or skate boarding.
Sports Resort though was released in Japan as a seperate game but again stateside it's bundled with one motion control plus.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 29, 2009, 07:15:57 PM
As far as I know WSR is bundled with M+ everywhere since you can't play the game without it.
I live stateside, and at the time of WiiFit release, it was bundled with the balance board, because not only was it the only game to use it, but you can't play the game without it. If gamestop had a deal set up where you get a Wii + WiiFit bundle, then it was for people that didn't already have a Wii, as you can't play WiiFit without a Wii. I hardly think GS is gonna force someone that only wanted WiiFit (that comes with a balance board) to purchase a Wii at the same time. That makes no sense.
And by the way, WiiSports isn't a bundled game, it's a pack-in game. It comes free with the system.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: KDR_11k on August 30, 2009, 04:38:51 AM
Like I stated, retailers bundled the game to the hardware
Retailers bundle all kinds of things, why should the sales not count then? I'm pretty damn sure you'll see Modern Warfare 2 console bundles too.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Ymeegod on September 01, 2009, 06:29:32 PM
But like I said the retailers bundled the WII with WII FIT. Namely you couldn't buy just the WII and during the shortages alot of people didn't have much choice either buy the bundle of go without. Alot of retailers racked up alot of cash with those so-called bundled deals too. Namely $250 for the WII and it was $90 for WII FIT but the retailers had it bundled at $400 with two other crappy titles and some other crap that nobody used. I think GS bundled with $500 and that came with WII play and extra nunchunck ($50 for play and 20 for the nunchunk= $70)--it as nothing short of ABUSE and I kinda felt bad for people who waited that late into the holiday season.
The difference with the others is called limited editions and usually you can still buy the standalone vrs without the bundled game. Like with NSMB on the DS you at least had a choice--you could have gotten Nintendo Dogs, or one of those other titles.
Sports Resort is similar--yeah it comes with Motion Plus (stateside anyhow) but there are other choices too--EA Active life and even the upcoming Red Steel will have bundles as well.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: KDR_11k on September 02, 2009, 02:22:24 AM
But that still doesn't disqualify Wii Fit from its position as a high selling game. The sales from that kind of retailer abuse are probably not major (especially since many people would have bought the game separqately anyway) so disqualifying it for that is nonsense, almost like an attempt to disqualify all competition until MW2 wins by default. Best Selling Game Ever means just that, no limits like "for a third party" or "was never forced on customers".
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 02, 2009, 04:18:22 PM
Where is a link to Activisionor Infinity Ward saying that it will be the best selling game ever?
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 02, 2009, 04:30:05 PM
If this is true, then i'd like to be the first to say "i'd hit that, and give new definition to hardtime-longcore"
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 03, 2009, 01:43:09 AM
So, this whole thread is meaningless then. This should be in the everyone hates GameStop thread.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: KDR_11k on September 03, 2009, 03:57:19 AM
That's not the only piece of arrogance regarding MW2. They hiked the price with Kotick saying he'd like to raise it even more.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Ymeegod on September 07, 2009, 06:37:50 PM
Why not? It's has the highest pre-orders I even seen--there's 340 copies reserved just from one Local Gamestop which beat out the last record holder which was Halo 3. If people are WILLING to pay then more power to Activision--me personally--I'll rent it and buy it when it hits greatest hits price.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Stogi on September 10, 2009, 11:35:26 AM
Man, that new multiplayer trailer looks SICK. Can't wait to play this.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: KDR_11k on September 15, 2009, 09:56:35 AM
Quote
Finally, Kotick talked about focusing his company on "profit and nothing else"; instilling a culture of "thrift" by employing staff that will "take all the fun out of making videogames".
For Kotick, an atmosphere of "scepticism, pessimism and fear" represents "mission accomplished".
from http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/activisons-future-is-console-less (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/activisons-future-is-console-less)
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: bustin98 on September 15, 2009, 11:45:24 PM
Well, now, to add to the air around the game, Microsoft is releasing a special 360 with a 250GB HDD and two wireless controllers. Call me a consumer whore but I would love to have that.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 16, 2009, 01:20:10 AM
Be prepared to shell out $399 US Dollars!! But on the bright side, it might come packaged with the night vision goggles.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 16, 2009, 02:30:03 AM
I think Kotick's words were taken completely out of context. He's saying what would happen if they focused on profit and nothing else.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: KDR_11k on September 16, 2009, 06:31:52 AM
I think Kotick's words were taken completely out of context. He's saying what would happen if they focused on profit and nothing else.
No, I don't think so. I've seen him quoted slightly differently in another place and it's clear that he was talking in part about changes that have already taken place.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: NWR_Lindy on September 18, 2009, 06:16:51 PM
Hate on Activision and Bobby Kotick; don't hate on Infinity Ward. They just make an amazing FPS; they have little to no input on how their game is packaged or marketed. That's all Activision.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Plugabugz on September 18, 2009, 07:04:13 PM
Hate on Activision and Bobby Kotick; don't hate on Infinity Ward. They just make an amazing FPS; they have little to no input on how their game is packaged or marketed. That's all Activision.
I can continue to hate on their aversion to working on Nintendo platforms themselves. I have yet to see a solid reason (such as we dont want to!) why they haven't.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: KDR_11k on September 19, 2009, 03:18:00 AM
Their publisher calls the shots on that I think...
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 19, 2009, 11:34:20 PM
Okay, this may sound far-fetched, but is there a photo of Bobby Kotick and Jack Thompson together? I've just come up with a theory that Bobby Kotick is Jack Thompson in disguise trying to destroy the video game industry from the inside. It's the most logical explanation I can think of for the things he's saying.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Adrock on September 20, 2009, 12:28:15 AM
Well, now, to add to the air around the game, Microsoft is releasing a special 360 with a 250GB HDD and two wireless controllers. Call me a consumer whore but I would love to have that.
I just dropped $50 on a pre-order today. That extra $100 gets you a lot over the Elite.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: KnowsNothing on October 19, 2009, 08:42:23 PM
Basically the PC version of MW2 will be a console port with shitty matchmaking and no mods. Which means wonderful improvements like $15 map packs, no custom rotations, no server-based community, higher ping, waiting forever for a match, more dropped connections, and worst of all no multiplayer at all once IW says so since no independent servers will be around to keep it alive. Look how long that sentence was! Disgraceful.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 19, 2009, 09:13:55 PM
DUKE, WE NEED YOU NOW, MORE THAN FOREVER
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: broodwars on October 20, 2009, 12:41:58 AM
Basically the PC version of MW2 will be a console port with ****ty matchmaking and no mods. Which means wonderful improvements like $15 map packs, no custom rotations, no server-based community, higher ping, waiting forever for a match, more dropped connections, and worst of all no multiplayer at all once IW says so since no independent servers will be around to keep it alive. Look how long that sentence was! Disgraceful.
Welcome to the Wonderful World of Irrelevance, PC gaming! It's been waiting for you for quite some time now, especially with all the pirating on that platform.
*says that knowing full well that StarCraft 2 and Command & Conquer 4 are still on his docket of interesting PC games, and he really wants a PC that can run the upcoming Mechwarrior game.*
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Enner on October 28, 2009, 07:07:58 AM
I can't blame Activision and IW wanting more control over the PC version's multiplayer. It sucks for those used to running and using user-run dedicated servers though. Also, Battle.Net seems to do okay with allowing player mods for the games it services. I don't see why that has to go with IWnet. Oh wait, Activision would rather charge you for those maps and mods.
Anyway, it looks like that terrorist attack at an airport that was teased in the teaser, E3, and Infamy trailers will be a fully player controllable sequence (as an undercover CIA operative). This is a surprise as I thought it would be another cut scene like The Coup.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Ymeegod on October 28, 2009, 02:51:26 PM
"Mechwarrior game" Saddly you saw that trailer for the offical MW5 which is now on the backburner.
Freaking sucks, I wet my pants for nothing just like I did with Beyond Good and Evil 2. Should be a law against showing teaser trailers and not delievering.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Dirk Temporo on October 28, 2009, 11:06:40 PM
I can't blame Activision and IW wanting more control over the PC version's multiplayer. It sucks for those used to running and using user-run dedicated servers though. Also, Battle.Net seems to do okay with allowing player mods for the games it services.
Yeah, but Starcraft and Diablo aren't twitch-based action shooters. No dedicated servers is a terrible idea, as consoles have been proving handily for quite some time now. (I'm looking at you, Gears of War)
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Enner on October 29, 2009, 03:22:19 PM
Considering how fast Starcraft can be played and how some micromanaging maneuvers are impossible with internet lag, I don't think there is too much of a difference in the need of a good connection between Starcraft and a FPS. Then again, maybe all those APM junkies are on IC Cup or something.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: KDR_11k on October 29, 2009, 03:40:16 PM
RTSes are P2P anyway and cannot really use dedicated servers (or at least don't benefit from it because the workload of the server and client don't differ).
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 12, 2009, 05:06:34 PM
Report: Microsoft bans 1 million Xbox Live players http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/11/12/cnet.xbox.live.ban/index.html
Man. Looks like people were boycotting via pirating.
Imagine Nintendo banning 1 million Mario Karters.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 12, 2009, 05:23:53 PM
Also, an estimated 4.7 million unis of MW2 were sold in 24hrs between the US & the UK on launch day. $301million dollars worth of MW2 in 1 day.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: broodwars on November 12, 2009, 05:25:36 PM
"Mechwarrior game" Saddly you saw that trailer for the offical MW5 which is now on the backburner.
Freaking sucks, I wet my pants for nothing just like I did with Beyond Good and Evil 2. Should be a law against showing teaser trailers and not delievering.
:'(
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Plugabugz on November 15, 2009, 03:45:19 PM
Also, an estimated 4.7 million unis of MW2 were sold in 24hrs between the US & the UK on launch day. $301million dollars worth of MW2 in 1 day.
The reason for this here is because, even though the RRP is £54.99, retailers and supermarkets went on a massive price war. It was available for £20 in some places.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 15, 2009, 03:50:55 PM
I think it's there to draw Reggie out. "NSMBWii will outsell MW2...."
But it looks like alot of the sales were from the supermarkets in the UK where they were selling the game at anywhere from 30-45% off MSRP. Something about "Supermarket Wars" competing in prices, kinda like Walmart vs Amazon.com
still an impressive number regardless how of much they sold it for.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Stogi on November 15, 2009, 06:12:16 PM
That's true. My brother got it for $20; no joke.
I played about 3 hours today on Hardened (I rarely start at the regular level). It's pretty damn fun, but nothing's really different. I do love the new weapons and HUD though. There is nothing better than opening up a laptop and sending a missile into 20 bogies. I also like the new sights for the guns and the new attachments. I literally rolled through a brazilian market switching back and forth from a semi-automatic rifle and a shotgun, killing everything - near or far - and I didn't even have to switch guns!
I also like the addition of civilians (though I hate the fact that your game ends when you shoot them). Playing as the bad guy is incredibly wicked because of civilians. Thee's a level where you roll through an airport killing everybody. I think I personally killed over 200 people
I haven't had the chance to play online cuz it requires a downloadable upgrade (already?!?!). I haven't played Special Ops either, though I heard it's awesome.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 15, 2009, 06:14:56 PM
are you in the UK now?
damn man, I need to travel with you.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Stogi on November 15, 2009, 06:17:41 PM
No, though I've been twice.
Plus if I were going to go to europe, I'd be in Amsterdam for the Cannabis Cup!
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 16, 2009, 03:30:00 PM
This is awesome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cudCajMNRM0&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cudCajMNRM0&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 16, 2009, 03:57:40 PM
I was going to buy this tomorrow, but I was worried about being able to find it, so I ordered it from Amazon with surprisingly affordable (<$10) overnight shipping.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 16, 2009, 04:12:44 PM
This is awesome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cudCajMNRM0&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cudCajMNRM0&feature=player_embedded)
I saw that when it was first posted and it is an awesome kill, but that is bullshit. I would be pissed if that was the kill that lost the game for me. The most incredibly lucky knife toss ever.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: kraken613 on November 16, 2009, 06:20:38 PM
I bet not many of those where for PC.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 16, 2009, 07:07:17 PM
PC version is online limbo.
Modern Lagfest
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: kraken613 on November 16, 2009, 09:20:38 PM
It's Activision's Call of Pirates: Modern Warfare 2 on PC.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Stogi on November 17, 2009, 01:09:08 PM
So the campaign is ridiculously short. I beat it in 4-5 hours on hard. And though I skipped the beginning "scenes" to each level, there is no way it should be so short.
Well, I'm off to play online.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: kraken613 on November 17, 2009, 01:20:17 PM
The first one was just as short. It took me 5 hours the first time I played.
So you probably skipped 30+ minutes and the parts that make the story make sense....
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 17, 2009, 01:36:54 PM
The campaing ending mission will be available as $40 DLC.
The cutscenes are an extra $10.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Stogi on November 17, 2009, 01:42:09 PM
The first one was just as short. It took me 5 hours the first time I played.
I don't get your argument. Doesn't that make it worse?
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: kraken613 on November 17, 2009, 01:47:49 PM
No, its not like its any shorter or worse, honestly I wouldn't want "filler" because right now the game flows from point to point and is just awesome the whole time.
It took me about 6-7 hours on hardened which was plenty for me. Then you have Special Op's wish are just awesome then multiplayer. This is a much more full featured game than the 1st.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Stogi on November 17, 2009, 02:13:53 PM
I consider 4-5 hours short and if the first one was just as short, don't you think they fucked up?
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: kraken613 on November 17, 2009, 02:49:47 PM
No, because it was 5 hours of pure awesome. Plus countless hours for multiplayer and special ops.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Peachylala on November 17, 2009, 03:02:55 PM
The campaing ending mission will be available as $40 DLC.
The cutscenes are an extra $10.
This is why I avoid games in this genre.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: KDR_11k on November 17, 2009, 03:08:34 PM
I remember how Unreal 2 got beaten up by the press for having only 5 hours of gameplay...
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Peachylala on November 17, 2009, 03:15:21 PM
I wonder where this same gaming press was during Metal Gear Solid 4.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: KDR_11k on November 18, 2009, 03:34:29 AM
Watching the cutscenes.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: ShyGuy on November 21, 2009, 03:05:04 AM
I tried this on the PS3 tonight. It felt like Call of Duty. I will play it on the Wii in two years.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 21, 2009, 03:11:16 AM
Is it just me or is this game not that visually impressive? The character models look good, but I saw a car in the game that reminded me of that Disaster: Day of Crisis screenshot.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: ShyGuy on November 21, 2009, 03:42:55 AM
Yeah, I didn't think it was all that great. It's very polished, but it doesn't push anything technically. It looks the same as COD4 and COD5. Very good animations, good models good level design, but mediocre lighting, textures, and shaders.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Peachylala on November 23, 2009, 12:29:09 AM
Won't stop them gaming medias from giving out perfect scores! =D
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: D_Average on November 23, 2009, 01:32:41 AM
Just saw some videos of fights in suburbia. Very cool. Now I want to rent this.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Dasmos on December 22, 2009, 07:29:29 AM
It's so funny how broken this game is. Online multiplayer is a trainwreck, but that is actually what makes it so fun.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: KDR_11k on December 22, 2009, 10:37:59 AM
I treat it as a funny game to mess around with, nothing serious since the killstreaks hurt the game so much (lol nuke, let's reward players who try to hero it up by letting them win the game) and the counter against hovering aircrafts is the Stinger which you don't get until level 30 (before then you get the AT4 which takes 2-3 times as many shots but only comes with one round while the Stinger has two). Host migration is fun too, especially since the gamestate after it seems slightly different from how it was before (e.g. I'm in a wrong position, timers expire faster, ...) and even more if the game decides I make a good host (I get 3 bars ping at BEST, usually around 2 so if I'm host that means everybody else gets 2-3 bars). The insane amount of grinding necessary to unlock some things (e.g. tac knife for a pistol, needs 150 kills with the pistol IIRC) means the playing field is really slanted towards those who grind and there's not even a hint of a fair game.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: Dasmos on December 23, 2009, 10:27:28 PM
It's worth getting the tactical knife though, both times I was able to get a nuke in the multiplayer was with the tactical knife, and the marathon, lightweight and commando perks. So much fun.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: KDR_11k on December 24, 2009, 02:33:44 AM
Nukes are probably the lamest feature in the game though. Making the witchblade combo require insane amounts of grinding isn't exactly fair either.
What annoys me more is how lag sensitive the game is, the last half second or so before I get killed never counts, even if it was a major action like launching a grenade that would've killed 2-3 enemies. As I said, not good for anything but casual messing around. For serious competitive gaming I'll stay with Section 8 (no unlocks, not very lag sensitive).
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 2: Activision is full of itself
Post by: NWR_Lindy on December 26, 2009, 06:07:49 PM
Got this for Christmas. Having fun so far, but man I get facerolled in multiplayer.