Wow, this is a pretty incredible development and I've been looking forward to the Secret of Monkey Island SE for a while now (I never played the original). It's great to hear that Lucasarts' other Adventure games will also become available and compatible with XP soon. But why, Lucasarts? Why did you have to go with ****ing Steam? Why couldn't you just have it up Direct-to-Download on your site or something? I don't want to mess with Steam...
On a sidenote, I wonder if this basically kills any chance of the Wii getting these re-releases/remakes, since it's likely that Steam has these exclusively.
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 06, 2009, 02:49:00 PM
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But why, Lucasarts? Why did you have to go with ****ing Steam? Why couldn't you just have it up Direct-to-Download on your site or something?
I am a huge fan of Steam, so YES. I hate DTD.
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: vudu on July 06, 2009, 02:50:27 PM
But why, Lucasarts? Why did you have to go with ****ing Steam?
Funny enough, I'm the exact opposite. These days I don't even bother with a PC game unless it's available on Steam. I like that Steam does everything for me--I honestly can't even be bothered to do it on my own anymore.
EDIT: Looks like GP and I feel the same way.
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: broodwars on July 06, 2009, 02:51:49 PM
But why, Lucasarts? Why did you have to go with ****ing Steam? Why couldn't you just have it up Direct-to-Download on your site or something?
I am a huge fan of Steam, so YES. I hate DTD.
What's wrong with Direct-to-Download? :-\ You buy a game, and you download it to your PC. No mess, no fuss, and it's actually on your PC until you get rid of it. What, exactly, does Steam have over that?
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: vudu on July 06, 2009, 02:53:51 PM
You buy a game, and you download it to your PC. No mess, no fuss, and it's actually on your PC until you get rid of it.
So it's exactly the same as Steam?
Quit crying about it. Steam is the definitive digital distribution platform, and honestly right now you're bitching about it but haven't given any reason at all why Steam is bad.
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 06, 2009, 03:04:37 PM
I was really hoping that Lucas Arts would stop ignoring easy money and release the whole P-n-C Adventure catalog onto a VC channel for all those lapsed gamers that would love to replay them from the livingroom couch.
I have nothing against steam, but a simultaneous WiiWare/VC launch would make too much sense to not do.
There is alot of people that don't really like to game from the computer chair, and would rather do it from the couch.
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: Dirk Temporo on July 06, 2009, 03:06:35 PM
You buy a game, and you download it to your PC. No mess, no fuss, and it's actually on your PC until you get rid of it.
So it's exactly the same as Steam?
Quit crying about it. Steam is the definitive digital distribution platform, and honestly right now you're bitching about it but haven't given any reason at all why Steam is bad.
I don't want to go through an external (internet-based) service just to get a game that you could easily just put up a big "click here to download" button for. This could also just be conjecture because I've never used the service, but isn't your progress and pertinent data kept on their servers rather than your PC? I seem to remember something about that...
Of course, the ideal system for my crotchety old school gamer self is just get it all on a DVD anyway so I actually own it, but outside Telltalegames that just doesn't happen anymore with these games. Which reminds me, everyone: Tales of Monkey Island Episode 1 comes out tommorow! ;)
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: vudu on July 06, 2009, 03:20:06 PM
So I just got around to looking at the list of games that will be available on Wednesday.
* Armed and Dangerous * Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis * Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade: The Graphic Adventure * LEGO Indiana Jones: The Original Adventure * LOOM * Star Wars Battlefront II * Star Wars Republic Commando * Star Wars Starfighter * The Dig * Thrillville: Off the Rails
Fate of Atlantis? Seems a much better way of playing the game than buying the mediocre Wii game. :)
The Late Crusade: The Graphic Adventure? OH. ****. YES. I played this game so much back in the day. The 10-year old me loved this game. I hope it's good. ;)
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 06, 2009, 03:35:47 PM
You buy a game, and you download it to your PC. No mess, no fuss, and it's actually on your PC until you get rid of it.
So it's exactly the same as Steam?
Quit crying about it. Steam is the definitive digital distribution platform, and honestly right now you're bitching about it but haven't given any reason at all why Steam is bad.
I don't want to go through an external (internet-based) service just to get a game that you could easily just put up a big "click here to download" button for. This could also just be conjecture because I've never used the service, but isn't your progress and pertinent data kept on their servers rather than your PC? I seem to remember something about that...
Of course, the ideal system for my crotchety old school gamer self is just get it all on a DVD anyway so I actually own it, but outside Telltalegames that just doesn't happen anymore with these games. Which reminds me, everyone: Tales of Monkey Island Episode 1 comes out tommorow! ;)
I understand your point, personally I had a couple bad experiences with DTD when it came to new patches, Steam always seems to keep things up to date for you in a timely manner. Like vudu said, it is more automated and easy, I've never really had a problem with them, not to mention they have some FANTASTIC deals.
Also that game list is very cool. Now I don't need to buy crappy Indiana Jones for Wii.
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: KDR_11k on July 06, 2009, 03:37:16 PM
Reminds me, I picked up Full Throttle (and my mother got Monkey Island 3) when they put their old P&C stuff back on retail shelves last year or so, still haven't played it...
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: broodwars on July 06, 2009, 03:40:28 PM
So I just got around to looking at the list of games that will be available on Wednesday.
* Armed and Dangerous * Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis * Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade: The Graphic Adventure * LEGO Indiana Jones: The Original Adventure * LOOM * Star Wars Battlefront II * Star Wars Republic Commando * Star Wars Starfighter * The Dig * Thrillville: Off the Rails
Fate of Atlantis? Seems a much better way of playing the game than buying the mediocre Wii game. :)
The Late Crusade: The Graphic Adventure? OH. ****. YES. I played this game so much back in the day. The 10-year old me loved this game. I hope it's good. ;)
Fate of Atlantis already? Well, I'm glad I didn't buy the crappy Wii game for it. I guess that seals it. That and Sam & Max Hit the Road were my two most wanted games, plus the Monkey Island remake.
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 06, 2009, 04:04:10 PM
Speaking of Monkey Island telltale has a pretty neat preorder offer going for the complete package (ends tomorrow).
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: broodwars on July 06, 2009, 04:35:03 PM
Speaking of Monkey Island telltale has a pretty neat preorder offer going for the complete package (ends tomorrow).
Yep, I purchased that season pack last week. Been waiting impatiently for the first episode to finally come out.
Actually I have never played a Monkey Island game before but I've become a fan of Telltale with their Sam and Max along with Strong Bad games that I had to pick this up too with the neat preorder.
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: Pale on July 06, 2009, 05:15:01 PM
I want steam to figure out whatever emulation hoohah they have to to make Steam work natively on Mac.
Also, I don't think this means we won't see these games on live arcade or WiiWare... if anything I think this increases the odds to some extent. Live Arcade is most likely, but they'd have to make all those changes MS requires so it probably won't happen unless Monkey Island does well.
Grass green. I hate that color!
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 06, 2009, 05:27:24 PM
I want steam to figure out whatever emulation hoohah they have to to make Steam work natively on Mac.
Also, I don't think this means we won't see these games on live arcade or WiiWare... if anything I think this increases the odds to some extent. Live Arcade is most likely, but they'd have to make all those changes MS requires so it probably won't happen unless Monkey Island does well.
Grass green. I hate that color!
Steam works really well in CrossOver. Not all games, but a lot of the ones I've tried, I don't think there'd be a problem with these.
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: Pale on July 06, 2009, 05:30:00 PM
It probably works fine in VMWare Fusion or Parallels too, but in all honesty, I'm sick of jumping through those hoops.
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 06, 2009, 05:34:56 PM
Mac sucks that is your problem. :)
I don't think we'll see the point n click games on Live Arcade, those will most likely show up on Wii. The others may though.
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 06, 2009, 05:38:19 PM
CrossOver is less of a hassle than those, though, once you install it through CrossOver it has its own icon that takes you straight to Steam without booting up Windows. Or you could buy the games on Steam and then go get pirated copies and run them through the Mac version of ScummVM.
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: Morari on July 06, 2009, 08:33:17 PM
but isn't your progress and pertinent data kept on their servers rather than your PC? I seem to remember something about that...
Its on your PC. The game, saves, and options. Some games now have the option of using Steam Cloud which backs up all your options and saves so if you ever have to uninstall a game you don't lose everything. Or if you have multiple computers you play on it syncs it between them.
I love Steam. I don't know why you wouldn't... It's just a download platform that has crazy sells on games all the time. And does all the work for you with installing and patching. Then you have a unified friends list that can be used across any game on the service.
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: Stratos on July 06, 2009, 09:33:29 PM
I'm happy the games are coming. I'll probably get a couple of them. Where is Day of the Tentacle?!?
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: broodwars on July 08, 2009, 02:02:42 PM
Steam just put up the first wave of Lucasarts releases. Fate of Atlantis for only $4.99, in perfect working order on Windows XP?! I am so ****ing buying that now, instead of $49.99 (plus tax) for the Indiana Jones Wii game (w/ Fate of Atltantis). Hell, I might get the Last Crusade game as well at that price, since I thought I'd be paying $10 for Fate of Atlantis anyway.
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 08, 2009, 03:20:21 PM
Steam just put up the first wave of Lucasarts releases. Fate of Atlantis for only $4.99, in perfect working order on Windows XP?! I am so ****ing buying that now, instead of $49.99 (plus tax) for the Indiana Jones Wii game (w/ Fate of Atltantis). Hell, I might get the Last Crusade game as well at that price, since I thought I'd be paying $10 for Fate of Atlantis anyway.
Yes great prices! I may even get Republic Commando for $10.
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: broodwars on July 08, 2009, 03:58:47 PM
Steam just put up the first wave of Lucasarts releases. Fate of Atlantis for only $4.99, in perfect working order on Windows XP?! I am so ****ing buying that now, instead of $49.99 (plus tax) for the Indiana Jones Wii game (w/ Fate of Atltantis). Hell, I might get the Last Crusade game as well at that price, since I thought I'd be paying $10 for Fate of Atlantis anyway.
Yes great prices! I may even get Republic Commando for $10.
I could do without seemingly having to have Steam open to play it, though. But ah...Fate of Atlantis. I haven't played this game in over 15 years, and it still holds up quite nicely. Bliss...I just got to my favorite part of the game, where you have to choose what path you'll take through the game (and they ARE quite different).
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 08, 2009, 04:39:32 PM
Steam just put up the first wave of Lucasarts releases. Fate of Atlantis for only $4.99, in perfect working order on Windows XP?! I am so ****ing buying that now, instead of $49.99 (plus tax) for the Indiana Jones Wii game (w/ Fate of Atltantis). Hell, I might get the Last Crusade game as well at that price, since I thought I'd be paying $10 for Fate of Atlantis anyway.
Yes great prices! I may even get Republic Commando for $10.
I could do without seemingly having to have Steam open to play it, though. But ah...Fate of Atlantis. I haven't played this game in over 15 years, and it still holds up quite nicely. Bliss...I just got to my favorite part of the game, where you have to choose what path you'll take through the game (and they ARE quite different).
I actually have never played it, so it should be interesting!
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: Stratos on July 08, 2009, 05:10:05 PM
Steam just put up the first wave of Lucasarts releases. Fate of Atlantis for only $4.99, in perfect working order on Windows XP?! I am so ****ing buying that now, instead of $49.99 (plus tax) for the Indiana Jones Wii game (w/ Fate of Atltantis). Hell, I might get the Last Crusade game as well at that price, since I thought I'd be paying $10 for Fate of Atlantis anyway.
Yes great prices! I may even get Republic Commando for $10.
I could do without seemingly having to have Steam open to play it, though. But ah...Fate of Atlantis. I haven't played this game in over 15 years, and it still holds up quite nicely. Bliss...I just got to my favorite part of the game, where you have to choose what path you'll take through the game (and they ARE quite different).
You know, I always chose the same path because I thought it was the only way to get the girl to come with you to help. I'll have to try one of the other paths this time.
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: broodwars on July 08, 2009, 05:17:45 PM
Bah, I've gotten stuck in the same part I always got stuck before: the stupid part where you have to use the Surveyor's scope to triangulate the spot where a key item is buried on Crete (I'm on the "Team" path). This is pure pixel-hunting, as I know exactly what the game wants me to do but have no idea how it wants me to do it.
EDIT: Finally got past it, but man they force you to do something somewhat counter-intuitive to solve it.
Incidentally, Stratos, if you're going to try a new path I highly recommend the "Wits" path. Let's just say you have a rather amusing and very Indiana Jones way of getting to Crete on that path. ;)
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 08, 2009, 07:35:54 PM
Ok I bought 3 games, The Dig (heard it is quite good), Fate of Atlantis and Republic Commando. For $20 that is pretty good! Still $30 cheaper then buying a crappy IJ game for Wii with Atlantis.
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: vudu on July 08, 2009, 07:57:50 PM
Just purchased Fate of Atlantis. :)
Let me know if The Dig is any good.
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: broodwars on July 08, 2009, 09:59:46 PM
It's finally over. It's been bugging me for 15 years that I never beat Fate of Atlantis, but now I have (on the "Team" track). Sheesh, Atlantis was an obnoxious final area with lots of backtracking (especially if you forgot to always retrive your items after using them). And then I had to backtrack through a series of "maze doors" because I forgot to retrieve Sophia before entering the final puzzle. Oh well, still an awesome game and much true-er to the Indiana Jones name than that...thing...Lucas put out last year.
Man, that game was a lot shorter than I remembered it being. True, I remembered the solutions to most of the puzzles from all those hours playing it years ago, but for a "full" Adventure game from the heyday of the genre...it's not that much longer than your typical Telltalegames episode.
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 09, 2009, 03:17:11 AM
It's finally over. It's been bugging me for 15 years that I never beat Fate of Atlantis, but now I have (on the "Team" track). Sheesh, Atlantis was an obnoxious final area with lots of backtracking (especially if you forgot to always retrive your items after using them). And then I had to backtrack through a series of "maze doors" because I forgot to retrieve Sophia before entering the final puzzle. Oh well, still an awesome game and much true-er to the Indiana Jones name than that...thing...Lucas put out last year.
Man, that game was a lot shorter than I remembered it being. True, I remembered the solutions to most of the puzzles from all those hours playing it years ago, but for a "full" Adventure game from the heyday of the genre...it's not that much longer than your typical Telltalegames episode.
Are you a fan of Telltale Games?
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: broodwars on July 09, 2009, 09:54:49 AM
It's finally over. It's been bugging me for 15 years that I never beat Fate of Atlantis, but now I have (on the "Team" track). Sheesh, Atlantis was an obnoxious final area with lots of backtracking (especially if you forgot to always retrive your items after using them). And then I had to backtrack through a series of "maze doors" because I forgot to retrieve Sophia before entering the final puzzle. Oh well, still an awesome game and much true-er to the Indiana Jones name than that...thing...Lucas put out last year.
Man, that game was a lot shorter than I remembered it being. True, I remembered the solutions to most of the puzzles from all those hours playing it years ago, but for a "full" Adventure game from the heyday of the genre...it's not that much longer than your typical Telltalegames episode.
Are you a fan of Telltale Games?
Yeah, I own both seasons of Sam & Max on PC and I've already purchased this first "season" of Tales of Monkey Island. I've also played the first 2 episodes of Wallace & Grommit, and I liked them despite not previously really caring for the license. I tried to like Strongbad, but it's just not my thing. I like their games, but the writing can be a bit spotty at times and it's taken them a long time to get their puzzles where they need to be (though I'd always appreciate them getting harder and more complex). They're also not the most technically-gifted people, as despite their low-poly games my computer tends to have issues playing their games and they have a LOT of issues launching games. Their Monkey Island launch the other day was a real mess, with notification E-mails not being sent out; the site being down all day; and they barely got the game out on its release date (I wasn't able to download it till 9 PM EST that day).
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 09, 2009, 06:05:50 PM
I really haven't had any problems launching their games, had a couple weird audio problems once in a strong bad game but it worked fine after I restarted the game. Their writing is pretty good for the most part from what I've experienced. What I admire most about them is that they release games within a month of each other right on time.
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: broodwars on July 15, 2009, 02:16:41 PM
Alright, today's release list only seems to consist of one game, but it is a good one: The Secret of Monkey Island - Special Edition. It's $10 for a remake of allegedly one of the best Adventure games from the golden age of the genre, so yeah I'm picking it up. The new hand-painted 2D graphics look gorgeous.
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: Stratos on July 15, 2009, 04:15:26 PM
Alright, today's release list only seems to consist of one game, but it is a good one: The Secret of Monkey Island - Special Edition. It's $10 for a remake of allegedly one of the best Adventure games from the golden age of the genre, so yeah I'm picking it up. The new hand-painted 2D graphics look gorgeous.
The entire list of those games must be mine!
I think Dig was my favorite of the old LA P&C games.
Does anyone thing the Rebel Assault games will come at some point to? Those were interesting. I never played the second one but remember the first being a fun arcade shooter. It felt a lot like an expanded and fleshed out version of the old arcade Star Wars game (the vertex one I think they were referred to with the wire frame models).
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 15, 2009, 05:01:26 PM
Alright, today's release list only seems to consist of one game, but it is a good one: The Secret of Monkey Island - Special Edition. It's $10 for a remake of allegedly one of the best Adventure games from the golden age of the genre, so yeah I'm picking it up. The new hand-painted 2D graphics look gorgeous.
The entire list of those games must be mine!
I think Dig was my favorite of the old LA P&C games.
Does anyone thing the Rebel Assault games will come at some point to? Those were interesting. I never played the second one but remember the first being a fun arcade shooter. It felt a lot like an expanded and fleshed out version of the old arcade Star Wars game (the vertex one I think they were referred to with the wire frame models).
I think they will, Lucasarts seems serious about mining their back catalog (finally).
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: Stratos on July 15, 2009, 05:31:03 PM
Alright, today's release list only seems to consist of one game, but it is a good one: The Secret of Monkey Island - Special Edition. It's $10 for a remake of allegedly one of the best Adventure games from the golden age of the genre, so yeah I'm picking it up. The new hand-painted 2D graphics look gorgeous.
The entire list of those games must be mine!
I think Dig was my favorite of the old LA P&C games.
Does anyone thing the Rebel Assault games will come at some point to? Those were interesting. I never played the second one but remember the first being a fun arcade shooter. It felt a lot like an expanded and fleshed out version of the old arcade Star Wars game (the vertex one I think they were referred to with the wire frame models).
I think they will, Lucasarts seems serious about mining their back catalog (finally).
Looks like our hopefulness in the new LA president has paid off. He said he wanted to explore more of their back catalog and call upon more old IPs of theirs.
I always had hoped for a Dig movie.
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: broodwars on July 15, 2009, 06:47:37 PM
Man, there are some really obtuse puzzles in Secret of Monkey Island. I haven't gotten stuck this many times in an Adventure game in quite a while, something I'm still not sure if it's a good or bad thing.
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: Stratos on July 15, 2009, 07:13:53 PM
It took me a long time to figure out a lot of the puzzles in those games as well. I think I caved to guides several times on all of them. Back then they were harder to find as well. I'm going to try and avoid guides this time around.
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: broodwars on July 16, 2009, 12:21:37 AM
Well, Monkey Island's done. Long story short: it's a very gorgeous game with the new hand-painted 2D sprites and backgrounds, and it makes me hope we see more Lucasarts classics restored like this. My only complaint with the graphics is that when you're in "Special Edition" mode you don't have the SCUMM HUD on-screen, so most of your inventory management and whatnot is going to be done with keyboard shortcuts. Also, while the art is very nice, the animation is not. It's not uncommon to see characters with a whopping 2-3 frame animation routine, though it's not a huge issue. The puzzles in this game, though, can be very obtuse and I got stuck frequently, requiring quite a few trips to Ye Old FAQ. Often the solution would be some obscure use of an item that either didn't make much sense to use there, or it would be an item that's easy to miss. Still, great game and I'm looking forward to the rest of Tales of Monkey Island even more now.
Note: You can play this game with either the new Special Edition visuals or the original version's visuals, though I have no idea why you'd ever want to leave Special Edition mode. The game looks like crap in its original form; the music is tinny; and there is no voice acting.
Title: Re: Lucasarts to bring backcatalog of P&C Adventure Games to Steam
Post by: Stratos on July 16, 2009, 03:26:12 AM
How does dig hold up visually? I remember it being nice for the time.
