Today, Nintendo confirmed the upcoming remake of the Game Boy Color games. The DS remakes are titled Pokémon Heart Gold and Pokémon Soul Silver. Much like the Game Boy Advance remakes of the original Pokémon titles, Heart Gold and Soul Silver will feature updated graphics and new gameplay elements.
Pokémon Gold and Silver were first released back in 1999, and sold a combined 23 million copies worldwide.
The Japanese release for Heart Gold and Soul Silver is scheduled for early fall.
most people seem to agree Gold/Silver/Crystal were the best games in the series.That may be because they had the biggest improvements out of all of the iterations, and at that point Pokémon was still relatively fresh and everyone hadn't gotten sick of it.
A re-make of 2 of the best handeld games ever is great, especially after the job they did with the previous Pokemon re-makes. These will also sell millions (and deserve to).They have already been remade twice now: Ruby and Sapphire were the first remakes, then Diamond and Pearl were the second remakes. The further lazy exploitation of this epitome-of-a-cash-in franchise definitely does not deserve to sell.
I hardly consider this a "lame" announcement. This is actually a pretty huge announcement.If you think that a remake of a remake which itself had remakes is a huge announcement, it must take very little to get you excited. A huge announcement would have been a Wii Pokémon RPG. A huge announcement would have been a Smash Brothers-style Pokémon fighting game. A huge announcement never involves a remake. A huge announcement is usually something surprising, but this couldn't have been more expected. This is lameness through-and-through.
They have already been remade twice now: Ruby and Sapphire were the first remakes, then Diamond and Pearl were the second remakes. The further lazy exploitation of this epitome-of-a-cash-in franchise definitely does not deserve to sell.
A huge announcement never involves a remake.
They have already been remade twice now: Ruby and Sapphire were the first remakes, then Diamond and Pearl were the second remakes. The further lazy exploitation of this epitome-of-a-cash-in franchise definitely does not deserve to sell.
You obviously don't have a clue what a re-make is. The ONLY re-makes in the Pokemon series were FireRed and LeafGreen. Do you think Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas is a re-make of Grand Theft Auto III? Or that Super Mario World is a re-make of Super Mario Bros.? Because that is EXACTLY the same thing you are claiming.
If you think that a remake of a remake which itself had remakes is a huge announcement, it must take very little to get you excited. A huge announcement would have been a Wii Pokémon RPG. A huge announcement would have been a Smash Brothers-style Pokémon fighting game. A huge announcement never involves a remake. A huge announcement is usually something surprising, but this couldn't have been more expected. This is lameness through-and-through.
I'm not sure where the "exploitation" part of Pokemon is.It's all around us. Two versions of the exact same game, plus a "special edition" which follows a year or so later. So basically three versions of each game. The last two "generations" of the mainline games were barely improved over their predecessors, and actually removed some features. Remakes of the older games when the newer games are barely different; now it's not so much a wonder that Gold/Silver's features hadn't returned. Gotta give people a reason to purchase the remakes. The stadium-style games, which take the most boring aspect of the series and creates an entire game of it. Countless spin-offs, which even they have multiple versions such as the Mystery Dungeon games.
Which standard of remake did you mean? Your standard where even sequels can be considered remakes, or another set of standards? Because a lot of sequels can be big deals.The remake kind of remake. These aren't sequels, they are remakes. If this is a big deal, then so are the New Play Control! games. So is every piece of shovelware on Wii. Show some consistency in your standards here, people!
And Mop, I feel like you really need to justify your argument.Which argument? I shouldn't try to justify anything because I can get really scary when my true hatred of Pokémon shines through. You think this is bad? You haven't seen anything yet.
Which argument? I shouldn't try to justify anything because I can get really scary when my true hatred of Pokémon shines through. You think this is bad? You haven't seen anything yet.
The remake kind of remake. These aren't sequels, they are remakes. If this is a big deal, then so are the New Play Control! games. So is every piece of shovelware on Wii. Show some consistency in your standards here, people!
If there were only one thing in this world which I simply cannot stand, it would be dirt. Unfortunately, there are several other things which I cannot stand, such as dust and grime and grease and stains and so on. High up on this list is Pokémon, of which I long to cleanse the world of this plague that takes no prisoners. I've managed to remain relatively pure, but it seems I stand alone in my resistance.
Do you think Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas is a re-make of Grand Theft Auto III?Considering that the next game was titled "Grand Theft Auto IV", the games in between that and GTAIII are spin-offs at best. Also, I never said that Pokémon was the only series with remake-style sequels.
Do you have any actual, legitimate criticisms at all, or are you just somehow voicing irrational hate?A little from column A, a little from column B. I definitely have a deep-rooted hatred for Pokémon, and I've already discussed it to death before and am trying really hard not to go there again by hoping my rants would have been ignored. Though I wouldn't call the hatred irrational... I'd say everyone else is irrational for buying the games. Of course, that in and of itself is probably irrational... :-\
Why. Are. They. Remakes?Because Nintendo called them remakes in this announcement. Do I really have to explain it beyond that?
And as a side note, they only split games into two "versions" specifically to encourage trading to complete the Pokedex. They never intended people to buy both for one person.That's what happened with the original pair, but they definitely continue with the two-game thing because they know people buy them both. And the third "special edition" of the game is definitely targeting people who bought the original version(s).
It seems like you are just trolling. You hate Pokemon. Yay. Great.Finally somebody gets it. In the past, people haven't cared for my rational arguments against Pokémon, so now I've resorted to trolling. It's just as non-effective and a lot more fun! :)
Pokemon is THE most popular RPG of all time, much, much, much more than any under it.I know, and it truly sickens me. I guess it is yet another thing in this world which I am not to understand.
Because Nintendo called them remakes in this announcement. Do I really have to explain it beyond that?
They have already been remade twice now: Ruby and Sapphire were the first remakes, then Diamond and Pearl were the second remakes.
That's what happened with the original pair, but they definitely continue with the two-game thing because they know people buy them both.
And the third "special edition" of the game is definitely targeting people who bought the original version(s).
Finally somebody gets it. In the past, people haven't cared for my rational arguments against Pokémon, so now I've resorted to trolling. It's just as non-effective and a lot more fun!
I know, and it truly sickens me. I guess it is yet another thing in this world which I am not to understand.
actually i see this as a GOOD indication for E3. this means that this was not to be an E3 announcement. so instead of this being a big announcement there will be something else.
and +1 to DSi version. it would be nice to see what DSi specific features you could pack into a pokemon game. (my pokemon ranch dsi? downloadable gyms? pokemon CALCULATOR!! ahahahaha.)
And I thought you were a J-RPG fan...
Are your feelings speaking from a global perspective of gaming or just within your perspective of the genre?
Why would you want MORE movie style?
Pokemon is like this super awesome game that any hardcore gamer should go nuts over, but it's marketed to rubes that fall for the same con again and again. Can you think of ANY series like this where you have this absolute gem hidden under all sorts of rip-offs, rehashes and spinoff junk?
Your original post quoted a comment of mine which was about Gold/Silver, that’s where that confusion stemmed from. As far as Ruby/Sapphire and Diamond/Pearl are concerned, I already explained this one. When I referred to them as a “remake”, I was using it as a derogatory term because they are incremental sequels. There is definitely some hypocrisy in this of course, since I like some game series which have incremental sequels, like Mario Party.QuoteThey have already been remade twice now: Ruby and Sapphire were the first remakes, then Diamond and Pearl were the second remakes.Why are Ruby/Sapphire and Diamond/Pearl remakes? That's a sort of crazy assertion.
If the multiple versions didn’t result in more sales overall, they wouldn’t have continued with them.QuoteThat's what happened with the original pair, but they definitely continue with the two-game thing because they know people buy them both.Your evidence for all of this is? Are you simply specuating with psychic powers?
Besides the third game is usually a testing ground for the new features that crawl into the next full version. So even if you could vaguely call it a "remake" instead of a "Special edition" it's not like the additions do not warrant another version.What other franchise releases a special edition of a game to test out features? There wasn’t a special edition of Super Mario 64 to test the ideas put forth in Super Mario Sunshine. It’s done to cash-in on a franchise. As far as being worth buying, that’s a matter of taste. I personally don’t think that new Pokémon poses in battle and a tacked-on battle arena are worth buying a whole other game for.
Yeah and it's also against the rules. So quit it.The difference here is that it really is my opinion, but I see your point.
Gold and Silver were fantastic for their time, but I'm not really excited about this. It'll take something more complex than the standard Pokemon formula to get me into the series again...a "Pokemon Tactics," if you will.
Gold and Silver were fantastic for their time, but I'm not really excited about this. It'll take something more complex than the standard Pokemon formula to get me into the series again...a "Pokemon Tactics," if you will.
Pokemon has gotten way too complicated as it is. If you know whats up with all them monsters it becomes absolutely insane.
Gold and Silver were fantastic for their time, but I'm not really excited about this. It'll take something more complex than the standard Pokemon formula to get me into the series again...a "Pokemon Tactics," if you will.
Pokemon has gotten way too complicated as it is. If you know whats up with all them monsters it becomes absolutely insane.
If only Nintendo would combine the addicting collection aspects of Pokemon with the strategic elements of Fire Emblem or Disgaea...oh, what a spin-off that would be.
A huge announcement would have been a Wii Pokémon RPG.
How about some new types? There haven't been any new types since Gold/Silver. Crystal type? Digital type? Pokemon with three types? Just throwing them out here now.
How about some new types? There haven't been any new types since Gold/Silver. Crystal type? Digital type? Pokemon with three types? Just throwing them out here now.
Or how about dual type moves? I always thought that would be cool!
There haven't been any new types since Gold/Silver. Crystal type? Digital type? Pokemon with three types? Just throwing them out here now.Beauty type. Their specialty would be charming and confusing the enemy by striking poses.
There haven't been any new types since Gold/Silver. Crystal type? Digital type? Pokemon with three types? Just throwing them out here now.Beauty type. Their specialty would be charming and confusing the enemy by striking poses.
