Post by: PGC-Agent Cooper on April 14, 2003, 08:31:21 AM
Mother 1 + 2 has been announced in Japan for the GBA, and we've got the first commercial for you. (Thanks Quiter!)
The original Mother for Famicom was never released outside of Japan. Apparently, its graphics have been slightly updated in this port. Its SNES sequel, starring Ness, a little boy who Smash Bros. fans will recognize, was released worldwide as Earthbound and quickly became a cult hit. Mother is highly regarded as a very funny, underrated, and unconventional RPG series.
Mother 1+2, which obviously contains both of these classic RPGs, will be released on June 20th for 4800 yen. There's no release date for Mother 3, but there's a teaser at the end of the commercial for this brand new game in the series. We'll have more information when we find our Japanese correspondent. For now, check out the commercial!
Mother 1 + 2
MPEG
Movie 1 (2.9MB MPEG)
Post by: Ian Sane on April 14, 2003, 08:45:04 AM
I wonder what they would call the NES Earthbound in North America.
Post by: Grey Ninja on April 14, 2003, 09:11:34 AM
Btw, what's the teaser for Earthbound 3? At the end of the commercial, it just says something like this:
Mother:
For use on the GameBoy Advance... gunmaken.... (don't know that last word)
Post by: loserfish13 on April 14, 2003, 09:18:03 AM
does anyone know the source. and is it gonna be in the home of the free (america, show your suport) too?
wait is it the land of the free or home of the free....?
Post by: Grey Ninja on April 14, 2003, 09:51:39 AM
Post by: baberg on April 14, 2003, 10:15:34 AM
And if you see it on PGC, it's legit. Period.
As for Mother, I never played it the first time around and so I for one am looking forward to it. And on my new GBP to boot!
Post by: oneate7 on April 14, 2003, 10:30:01 AM
"We're making Mother 3 for the Game Boy Advance too!"
sexy
Post by: Koopa Troopa on April 14, 2003, 10:41:36 AM
Post by: Bloodworth on April 14, 2003, 10:45:52 AM
Post by: reyontoyeny on April 14, 2003, 10:46:01 AM
Post by: SuckLikeAFox on April 14, 2003, 10:50:50 AM
No all i need is the NA release announced...E3 cant come soon enough
Post by: BlackGriffen on April 14, 2003, 11:02:44 AM
Where's the GC lovin'! The GC needs a popular Japanese RPG more than the GBA does.Are Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles and Rune II supposed to carry the GC in Japan all by themselves? There better be some serious GC lovin' at E3, or I'll.... I'll!
I'll rage and vent impotently in these forums again like I am now!
BlackGriffen
Post by: Fammy2000 on April 14, 2003, 11:03:11 AM
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Originally posted by: oneate7
starmen.net has it translated
"We're making Mother 3 for the Game Boy Advance too!"
sexy
Uh, I hope this isn't a remake/rework of the ill-fated N64 Mother 3. That would have been easier to move UP to the GC and not DOWN to the GBA. It may be a all new version.
Ah, rework. Twice as fun the second time.
Post by: Ian Sane on April 14, 2003, 11:19:30 AM
I'll agree with you on that. Of course there has been tons of situations where I've questioned Nintendo focusing on the GBA and ignoring the Gamecube. I remember when the GB Player was announced and I figured it was a Cube killer app. Surely every GBA owner who complained about the dark screen would buy a Gamecube to play their GBA games on TV with perfect visability. Then Nintendo released the GBA SP out of nowhere and basically killed a huge chunk of the GB Player's appeal before it was even released. Nintendo's use of the GBA/GC link cable so far has been more of an incentive for Cube owners to buy GBAs when it should be the other way around. Camelot makes a major RPG series of the GBA and their projects for the Cube are merely sequels of Mario sports games that arguably didn't need sequels in the first place.
The GBA doesn't need Nintendo's attention yet it gets most of it. The Gamecube needs Nintendo's attention and gets ignored. If the Gamecube was a human child it would grow up to be a psycho killer.
Going back on topic it doesn't really make any sense to make Mother 3 for the GBA when it's already getting a port anyway. The GBA doesn't need a new Earthbound game if it's already got a port while the Gamecube desperately needs an exclusive RPG. This is like rereleasing A Link to the Past and then making Wind Waker for the GBA. Why put all the Earthbound games on the GBA?
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 14, 2003, 12:39:41 PM
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Post by: Jonk on April 14, 2003, 01:01:48 PM
Enjoy the new TRANSLATED MOVIE AND SCREENSHOTS!
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 14, 2003, 01:48:29 PM
Post by: Kulock on April 14, 2003, 02:12:59 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian SaneI wonder what they would call the NES Earthbound in North America.
The infamous prototype dubbed it "Earthbound Zero". That makes the most sense anyway.
The curious thing is, what'll they call Mother 3 in the US? They might want to switch back to the Japanese names, so they might do a bridge titling, "Earthbound: Mother 3" or something...
Post by: Stuffage on April 14, 2003, 02:21:45 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 14, 2003, 02:42:39 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on April 14, 2003, 02:59:30 PM
Yes, it does say that they are also making Mother 3 for GameBoy Advance. I still have no clue what gunmaken means though... my Japanese teacher wasn't available.
Post by: rpglover on April 14, 2003, 03:23:39 PM
i have been waiting for the announcement of earthbound on gba and a new earthbound for some time now
and not only is mother 2 (earthbound) on the cartrage, so is mother (earthbound 0)
hopefully mother 3 will be awesome- as long as it keeps the same craziness as the first 2 i cant wait
Post by: mkeyes on April 14, 2003, 04:28:33 PM
Post by: NarmaK on April 14, 2003, 05:10:55 PM
Wind Waker is also for use with gba but it is in fact a GameCube game.
Im guessing they are refering to a gba gc conectivity thing.
Well maybe im wrong but it would make alot of sense wouldnt it?
Post by: NarmaK on April 14, 2003, 05:17:19 PM
"The story of Mother 3 does not seem to link back to the past games in the series, despite the fact that the end of Mother 2 lead to a sequel."
this is refering to the n64 mother 3, so maby mother 3 is a true sequel to mother 2 (earthbound).
umm get what im saying?
Post by: Mario on April 14, 2003, 05:57:57 PM
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"""MOTHER" and MOTHER2"
It is called "MOTHER 1+2."
It becomes one software.
It comes out by the Game Boy advance.
Then, on the day, the special series was prepared mostly.
It is not Shigesato Itoi who superintends a day mostly.
To those who is called Shigesato Itoi who made "MOTHER"
About the game "MOTHER"
It will interview.
The coverage was performed over several hours on the other day.
Then, the told language was so deep that it was surprised.
This Shigesato Itoi also thinks that such an intention could not be found by him, either.
However, language told gradually there,
It was in Shigesato Itoi's deep place fairly.
At then, the last of the interview
It is made to be pushed out by something.
Shigesato Itoi told about "MOTHER3."
Probably it is only the turn of such talk.
Shigesato Itoi is about "MOTHER3."
it was not able to tell -- coming out -- I think whether there is nothing
We are the interview.
It has and carries in the told turn.
To the last, it is about "MOTHER3."
We planned to have announced you.
However, it unites with the announcement of "MOTHER 1+2."
Many people search for the information on "MOTHER3."
Visiting this is expected.
Then, materials were immediately collected from Shigesato Itoi once again.
As the beginning of the special series which starts it today
First, I carry.
To the start of -
It is - about "MOTHER3."
-- "MOTHER3" is being under [ work ] saying.
Itoi Yes. However, it is me well.
Since it is an "ex-convict" about work of a game
As opposed to such things [ announcing ]
It says whether to repeat the same thing.
A thing like fearfulness will be felt.
It is prudent extremely.
After completing, I want to announce in fact.
But when saying that "MOTHER 1+2" comes out,
Naturally, doesn't " "MOTHER3" come out?"
The voice to say will go up.
Then, it is with "it does not come out" for making.
It was disagreeable to have told a lie one by one.
Then, first of all, it says [ "making" ],
It decided to announce you.
-- It once became a development stop.
It says [ that "MOTHER3" comes out ].
Please let me know a frank feeling.
Itoi Himself who has discouraged many persons
Thus, it is although it may be getting angry if it says.
saying [ come out ] -- me -- for an individual
It is very delightful.
I want to want to take out and to take out truly.
Since it is making
The things itself of coming out are individually.
It is delightful even if it takes.
Once there is no fact that it was not able to take out
Although we announce you with a more sufficient feeling
Well, I will say very.
That it is reserved surely
True feelings.
-- For the person who was waiting purely
I think that they are delightful news.
Itoi It is kind and becomes sushi and encouragement.
But a whistle and a drum are ‚Ç‚ñ‚Ç‚±– carried out well.
We announce you in a lively way,
He plans not to carry out too.
In fact, it is the talk of "MOTHER" in a series.
After having you read the talk of "MOTHER2",
The way I let you know about "MOTHER3"
Although it thought that it was good, it is this talk too.
Don't carry out at once first.
-- Although it is heard one by one, a platform first
It became the Game Boy advance.
Itoi Yes. Many,
Many people for whom it has waited, without giving up,
"MOTHER3" is sure enough.
To the inside of size called the Game Boy advance
You will think whether it is settled.
To be sure, it is as a design for my beginning.
It was not what was conceived in such size.
Therefore, aren't used [ "whether a scenario is used as a book" ]?
Although there was also a talk of "wanting to make it a movie"
While inquiring, it turns out that it is impossible.
Or [ which is too called size ],
Since it thought that a thing like a size was different
‚¯‚Á‚«‚å‚_ and which were given up.
-- It pats and it is ?. Saying
It is just going to be worrisome most.
Itoi Speaking most directly, being at a certain time.
"How to take out with the Game Boy advance
Isn't it? The proposal " was received.
Then, it is since it was not attaching a thought to me, either.
On that spot, it answered "It does not understand."
‚Ù‚ñ was not found.
And it thought thoroughly.
Then, for having felt, he is inside free from not knowing.
I hear that it had lapsed into the great work principle.
Me of those days,
The way of making depending on which power went into the shoulder very is adopted.
If it says very or says extremely
"surprise [ the world ]" I want to see
"All that he can imagine will be put in."
It was going to see and just it tended to take out the great work with the touch [ ‚½ / touch ].
It is the reason which was going to take out the great work and suffered a setback.
But the different way of asking more
It has seemed to be in others at last.
That it was able to consider to such ‚Ó‚¤
‚¯‚Ç which is not well called all,
"MOTHER3" is the Game Boy advance.
I think that it is one of the reasons which will come out.
-- How to consider to such ‚Ó‚¤ changed.
Is there any thing like a cause?
Itoi Although it thinks that it is variously
Supposing it mentions one of them
"MOTHER 1+2"
It will come out by the Game Boy advance.
It is having carried out the test play.
Even if the character of 3D does not move
Even if the picture drawn thickly does not come out one after another
me -- having thought -- saying
To ‚Ó‚¤ which can be tasted and which is cut and said
I can consider now.
Therefore, it is called the Game Boy advance.
‚µ [ it can say that hard power has also influenced ]
If it says by the bigger frame
A thing called a game is surrounded.
a time -- ‹C•ª‚Ý -- the thing [ ‚½ ] also changed
I think that it has influenced.
It plays, even if it gives up work, and it is a way.
if I will hold on to a game even if it continues an all-night sitting
I think that it has been no longer such a time.
Anyway, he also includes and it is the now most difficult one.
Since it is other men's "thing for which time is got."
Therefore, it is called the Game Boy advance.
Handicap Hurd is used.
As [ enjoy / every / just for a moment / every day / oneself ]
Think that what is necessary is just to become such a game.
A view is changed to such ‚Ó‚¤.
Do I hear that it was begun make "MOTHER3"?
-- Or [ that "MOTHER3" becomes what game and meets ],
Please let me know in the range about which it can speak.
Itoi Fundamentally, the talk is.
It is made based on my scenario.
The development itself is just going to progress steadily.
It is with an intention like the play-off of Japan Series before.
Although made
the intention that it is likely to obtain in Ο to an opening first game now
I think that the power of the shoulder will be extracted and it will tackle.
‚½ [ "sleep / I / if it does so far today /" see and ] -- feeling -- coming out
just for a moment -- every -- resting at frequent intervals -- playing
"-- it is fairly interesting -- ?v ‚Á‚ÄŒ¾‚Á‚Ä -- ‚炦‚é
Since he wants to make it such a game
Are such a thing, and it is said that it feels, and comes out.
I am pleased if you are waiting leisurely.
that -- thus -- if it says
Although it thinks that there are also ‚Á‚ÄŽv‚¤ people which "are ‚È‚Ÿ, ~ ‚ñ"
I consider -- having -- ‚¿‚Ⴄ -- things -- well
I also think unavoidable thing kana.
however -- primarily
"MOTHER" and "MOTHER2",
I think that it would have such lightness.
Therefore, if "MOTHER3" is made, it will be.
daringly -- "without [ it carries out excessive expectation ]" ‚Á‚Ä
As [ say / it is calm with laughter and / it ]
I wish to make it such a pleasant game.
Is [ "when it comes out" and / "what game it is" ]?
They are ‚¯‚Ç which will be ‚Á‚Ä•·‚«‚½‚¢, and the midst currently made.
Please make an announcement at least this.
Circumstances detailed to a slight degree something,
Probably, it will be carried next.
Since it thinks that it can read in the way of a series
It is glad if I have you also read that one.
For the time being, it is about "MOTHER3."
Understanding is above.
While it is thankful, withholding
Although it was Shigesato Itoi who had chosen language carefully
It said, after thinking for a long time at the end.
"Take down a large load and move on with your steps.
Since it does its best, I need your help well in how."
Now, from next time, it is as the original schedule.
The talk of "MOTHER" by Shigesato Itoi is carried.
That wonderful game was loaded with what.
What it was not known at all until now
Since it is told at a tune much much lighter than this time
It is pleasure pleasing! "
Post by: Stuffage on April 14, 2003, 06:37:17 PM
Post by: ruby_onix on April 14, 2003, 10:03:21 PM
"The infamous prototype dubbed it "Earthbound Zero". That makes the most sense anyway."
To be precise, the prototype didn't call it "Earthbound Zero", the fan-translators did.
The story, for anyone who hasn't heard it, goes like this. Nintendo translated Mother 1 for the NES, but never published it (for whatever reason). Somebody managed to get a prototype of "Earthbound for the NES" out of Nintendo HQ somehow at some point (I still can't believe how many people on the net seem to believe that it's a legit release, and that Nintendo only sold the one copy, but they still refer to it as a prototype), and sold it on eBay. At the time, a group was trying to hack the Japanese game in order to fan-translate it. They tracked down the guy who bought it, and gave him the money they had previously raised for hiring a translator, so he'd let them just copy the translated game. The ROM was unplayable as-is, so they had to hack it to get it to work. While they were at it, they changed the opening screen to "Earthbound Zero", which was what they were going to call their fan-translated version.
I've seen "Earthbound Zero prototypes" go up on eBay a few times since then, but they always show "Earthbound Zero" in their screenshots, which is the biggest giveaway that it's fake. It's either a complete ripoff, or it's someone who figured out how to copy a ROM onto a homemade cartrige.
I've also seen a couple of "prototypes" on eBay for Final Fantasy 2 and 3 for the NES. Always funny stuff.
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 15, 2003, 03:33:25 AM
Really? You sure? I guess I could see how "for use with GBA" would be confused with "for GBA", but I could also see the reverse happenning.
Post by: Bloodworth on April 15, 2003, 08:39:31 AM
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Originally posted by: NarmaK
Guys Guys calm down, it says for use with gba.
Wind Waker is also for use with gba but it is in fact a GameCube game.
Im guessing they are refering to a gba gc conectivity thing.
Well maybe im wrong but it would make alot of sense wouldnt it?
No, actually it says it's being made for GBA. The guy that was trying to translate it earlier got his verbs mixed up.
Post by: Kulock on April 15, 2003, 11:28:20 AM
Post by: NarmaK on April 15, 2003, 01:41:08 PM
one copy of earthbound zero was auctioned off and some people made an agreement to rent the cart long eneugh to copy the rom file, and that is why you can now find it on the internet today.
Post by: ruby_onix on April 15, 2003, 05:09:54 PM
Should you ever happen to come across one of the prototypes, it'd just be called "Earthbound" (even though that's the name that they used for the SNES game).
NOA using the name "Earthbound Zero" if they bring Mother 1 & 2 over would make sense, but they have no particular attachment to the name.
Post by: couchmonkey on April 17, 2003, 08:30:00 AM
In my opinion, the reason GameCube isn't getting Mother 3 is because the project was an absolute disaster on the N64 and HAL (or whoever was developing it) will wait a long damn time before ever attempting it again. I don't deny that Nintendo should be making a huge effort to get major RPGs on the GameCube but if nobody wants to make the game then it's better not to force it. I think Nintendo would do just as well or better to pay Square Enix to release (good) ports of Final Fantasy X and X-2 on the Cube.
Post by: reyontoyeny on April 17, 2003, 02:28:41 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 17, 2003, 02:34:19 PM
Post by: rpglover on April 17, 2003, 03:21:58 PM
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Originally posted by: mouse_clicker
Rey: But the Cube NEEDS a good RPG (besides SoA), and Earthbound is the perfect thing to attract them, ESPECIALLY after FF7 brought RPG's into the mainstream.
yeah they do- they could use a really good one- and earthbound is just that
its pretty big in japan- so its going to sell anyway its released- i personally would prefer the gc but the gba will have to do to get my new age retro hippie fix
but i think the gc does have a strong rpg lineup comming- tales of symphonia, ffcc, the new rpg from monolith soft (cant recall the name- i think it begins with a b)
but earthbound would help sell gamecubes- in japan and in america
its become a cult hit over here in america town
personally i just want to see any earthbound so i guess gba will do
hopefully nintendo has a plan to make another earthbound for gc, but we shall see
Post by: Ocarina Blue on April 20, 2003, 04:59:43 PM
Post by: Ridley on April 20, 2003, 08:54:35 PM
Post by: Jonk on April 20, 2003, 10:28:24 PM
Also, from the pressure of the fans for mother 3, he decided to bring mother 3 out of the grave, but in a new form. Because Itoi wants to include as MUCH story as possible, and 3-D development will most likely slow it down, much like the EB64, so he went with GBA. It would be very interesting to see Mother 4/EarthBound 3 in a 3-D form and maybe the engine developed on the N64 mother3 version may be used, but it is a far far hope.
For now, I am just glad that mother3 is coming out so we can expereince the story, and I hope at least that the development team takes the franchise up another step in graphics for the goodness of newcomers looking at the series. I know the EarthBound/Mother series isnt a graphicly concentrated game, but I want this series to gain more fans and have a little more justice done to it besides than just grahpic reviews.
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 21, 2003, 01:08:27 PM
And to anyone who says EB wouldn't translate well to 3D, let me just remind that's exactly what they said about Mario, Zelda, and Metroid, and we all know how well each of THEIR forays into 3D turned out.
