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Title: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on April 14, 2009, 10:54:31 AM
Nintendo's new peripheral arrives this June with the sequel to Wii Sports to follow.
 http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=18203

 Today, Nintendo announced the price points and release dates of the highly anticipated  Wii MotionPlus and Wii Sports Resort. The peripheral will arrive in North America on June 8th with an MSRP of $19.99. This peripheral will allow games to be implemented with more precise motion controls.    


Wii Sports Resort will arrive on July 26th bundled with one Wii MotionPlus peripheral for an MSRP of $49.99. Wii Sports Resort offers a collection of beach themed mini-games such as wave-racing, sword dueling, and disc tossing.    


  NINTENDO TO SET SUMMER '09 ABLAZE WITH WII MOTIONPLUS AND WII SPORTS RESORT    


Advanced Motion Controls Arrive June 8; Wii Sports Sequel to Follow    


REDMOND, Wash., April 14, 2009 - Nintendo is setting the stage for a blockbuster summer with the announcement of two hotly anticipated product releases. The new Wii MotionPlus™ accessory will hit U.S. retailers on June 8, taking the motion-sensing controls of the popular Wii™ system to new levels of precision and performance. What's more, these control enhancements will be on vibrant display when the Wii Sports Resort™ game launches on July 26, offering a beach-themed follow-up to the groundbreaking Wii Sports™ game. Wii Sports comes packed with the Wii console. It grew into a worldwide phenomenon and continues to attract millions of new players to the world of video games. Each Wii Sports Resort game comes packed with a single Wii MotionPlus accessory.    


When used with specially designed games, Wii MotionPlus tracks players' movements in finer detail and with greater accuracy than ever before, building upon the innovative wireless function of the motion-sensing Wii Remote™ controller. Even the slightest twist of the wrist or turn of the body is replicated exactly on the TV screen, allowing users to become even more immersed in Wii game play. Designed for easy attachment to the Wii Remote controller, the Wii MotionPlus accessory will be offered at an MSRP of $19.99.    


Wii Sports Resort takes the inclusive, fun and intuitive controls of the original Wii Sports to the next level, introducing a whole new set of entertaining and physically immersive activities. With the deep control enhancements of Wii MotionPlus, veteran Wii users and newcomers alike can enjoy unprecedented gaming precision as they cruise on a water scooter, duel with swords, throw a Frisbee® and much more. Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus will be offered together at an MSRP of $49.99.    


"Wii MotionPlus represents a new evolution in video game control. The variety of fun games in Wii Sports Resort show off its incredible precision," said Cammie Dunaway, Nintendo of America's executive vice president of Sales & Marketing. "Developers around the world are busy working on new ways to incorporate Wii MotionPlus controls into inventive experiences for consumers."    


Remember that Wii features parental controls that let adults manage the content their children can access. For more information about this and other Wii features, visit Wii.com. For more information about Nintendo, visit www.Nintendo.com.

Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: UncleBob on April 14, 2009, 10:22:10 AM
$20?  Ouch...

$110 for four players.  Add that to the $250 Wii and 3x $40 Wii Remotes - $480 and you've got two games for four players.  Should have went with my idea of packing the Wii Motion Plus with different mini-games.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: NWR_Neal on April 14, 2009, 10:51:58 AM
Price isn't really all the surprising, but I'll probably pick one up before Wii Sports Resort because I want to get Tiger Woods. Maybe the EA games that use it will be bundled with it?
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: D_Average on April 14, 2009, 11:11:33 AM
This is essentially $80+ for a video game controller.  Not as expensive as the Neo Geo controller but definitely unprecedented in its own right considering the hardware is essentially last gen.  Nintendo, masters of disguise.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Stogi on April 14, 2009, 11:14:42 AM
This is essentially $80+ for a video game controller.  Not as expensive as the Neo Geo controller but definitely unprecedented in its own right considering the hardware is essentially last gen.  Nintendo, masters of disguise.

Better buy the pack in then!
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: AV on April 14, 2009, 11:25:43 AM
the whole math thing is a red herring. I don't need 4 wiimotes, 4 nunchucks, 4 motion plus. Back in GAMECUBE days I bought 4 controllers and I rarely used them all at the same time. My brother is going to buy this and he has 2 wiimotes and 2 nunchucks so together we can play 4 player with mine. That way its all good.

Wiisports Resort is going to be epic. I mean 9 million the first week sort of epic. This is one puppy I am going to pre-order without a doubt. I'll pick up a motion plus beforehand for multiplayer, but i was hoping for Wiiplay2 oh well.

Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: UncleBob on April 14, 2009, 11:30:47 AM
I agree that WSR will be a great seller and probably a pretty fun game.  But, man, $20 is a little pricey for these - but that's just my opinion.  Maybe that's because everyone was tossing around $10 when they were first announced and I was hoping for something like that.

You're right though - I'll probably only need to buy one (outside of the bundle), so it's really only $70 for one game.

Good thing we don't have those $60 game prices like the other systems do. :p
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on April 14, 2009, 11:35:19 AM
I have a feeling the EA games will have a Motion Plus bundle for 59.99, and maybe Virtua Tennis 09 since the european PR states that the first 3 third party games that will support the peripheral is Tiger Woods 10, Grand Slam Tennis and Virtua Tennis 09.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 14, 2009, 12:03:12 PM
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you gotta use protection. Put a condom on your willmote!

I'm surprised it doesn't have a strap on it!
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on April 14, 2009, 12:05:59 PM
I agree that WSR will be a great seller and probably a pretty fun game.  But, man, $20 is a little pricey for these - but that's just my opinion.  Maybe that's because everyone was tossing around $10 when they were first announced and I was hoping for something like that.

Nintendo charges ten bucks for the Wii Wheel, and that's just a piece of molded plastic.  There was no way in this or any other dimension that MotionPlus was going to be ten dollars.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: KDR_11k on April 14, 2009, 12:10:45 PM
This is essentially $80+ for a video game controller.  Not as expensive as the Neo Geo controller but definitely unprecedented in its own right considering the hardware is essentially last gen.  Nintendo, masters of disguise.

What, the controller is last gen? Or do you think the graphics of the console affect the controller price?
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Morari on April 14, 2009, 12:12:30 PM
Yeah, ten bucks for the worthless wheel, yet no way to get the Zapper outside of a Zelda bundle. Bad form, Nintendo!
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: UncleBob on April 14, 2009, 12:24:54 PM
Nintendo charges ten bucks for the Wii Wheel, and that's just a piece of molded plastic.  There was no way in this or any other dimension that MotionPlus was going to be ten dollars.
True.  All well, might as well suck it up... we all know I'm going to buy it. ;)

I wonder how many retailers will jack the price up another $5?  I've seen the Wii Wheel being sold for $15 and the Zapper sold for $25 at so many places (GameStop, TRU, etc.) and I'm just thankful some stores (Walmart!) doesn't do that...
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 14, 2009, 12:29:59 PM
Yeah, ten bucks for the worthless wheel, yet no way to get the Zapper outside of a Zelda bundle. Bad form, Nintendo!

Zapper sucks, get a superior $2 shell off eBay.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Stogi on April 14, 2009, 12:33:03 PM
I wonder what the S & D curve will look like...I honestly think they could have charged $30 and maximized there profits.

Advertising is going to be crucial though. All that needs to be seen is a kinda average, kinda cute girl playing frisbee with her dog (but first plugging in the attachment). You don't even have to explain it. Just show a 30 sec clip of that, then the WiiSports: Resort logo with seagulls and wave sounds followed by the Wii logo.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on April 14, 2009, 12:34:50 PM
Quote from: UncleBob
$110 for four players.

- Have you created your own math?  Like Isaac Newton did?

- Anyone who thought this would be $10 was self-delusional.

- That box art does not necessarily mean the MotionPlus is bonded to the new jacket.  We always knew it would come with a jacket because Nintendo showed it off that way at E3 last year.  It may still be possible to remove the MotionPlus from the jacket if so desired.

- Interesting that Nintendo licensed the official Frisbee name for Wii Sports Resort.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: UncleBob on April 14, 2009, 12:39:31 PM
Quote from: UncleBob
$110 for four players.

- Have you created your own math?  Like Isaac Newton did?

$50 + $20 + $20 + $20 = $110.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 14, 2009, 12:41:19 PM
Tell your friends to get their own darn Resorts.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: UncleBob on April 14, 2009, 12:42:33 PM
Tell your friends to get their own darn Resorts.
In my case, that would work - but a family of four would be looking at $110.  Isn't the Wii supposed to be the family friendly system?
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on April 14, 2009, 12:45:36 PM
$50 + $20 + $20 + $20 = $110.

That's with a game too.  It's $80 to equip four controllers with MotionPlus.  We don't even have evidence that Wii Sports Resort supports four players.  The E3 demo only showed one mini-game with two-player support, and Eguchi-san (answering my own question) said the game would focus on pass-the-controller multiplayer due to the MotionPlus restriction.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: UncleBob on April 14, 2009, 12:49:37 PM
$50 + $20 + $20 + $20 = $110.

That's with a game too.  It's $80 to equip four controllers with MotionPlus.  We don't even have evidence that Wii Sports Resort supports four players.  The E3 demo only showed one mini-game with two-player support, and Eguchi-san (answering my own question) said the game would focus on pass-the-controller multiplayer due to the MotionPlus restriction.

It's with a game... that requires Motion Plus.  Which was my point.

I assumed WSR supported four players (i.e.: Four Controllers) since Wii Sports did.  Admittedly, this is without any actual knowledge of it. ;)
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Pale on April 14, 2009, 12:51:52 PM
Man, I remember how pissed I was at the original controller price when I was at the NYC press conference.  It really does keep getting worse...

But I think most of the reason this seems so bad is bad PR as usual.  Chances are this will be bundled with even more games... they should have at least mentioned this to put some people's minds at ease.

I wonder how long it will take for this to come on the remote included with a Wii system.


Also, I think many people will be disappointed with pass the remote games in Wii Sports Resort.  The most popular (and most shown) Wii Sports game is four player.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on April 14, 2009, 12:52:58 PM
The most popular and most shown Wii Sports game is bowling, which can be played four-player with only one Remote.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: UncleBob on April 14, 2009, 12:55:41 PM
The most popular and most shown Wii Sports game is bowling, which can be played four-player with only one Remote.
Umm... Really?
I would think Tennis is way more popular and shown.  Didn't one of the E3 press conferences consist of the Nintendo Big Wigs playing a round of Wii Tennis for half an hour? :)
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: D_Average on April 14, 2009, 01:12:03 PM
This is essentially $80+ for a video game controller.  Not as expensive as the Neo Geo controller but definitely unprecedented in its own right considering the hardware is essentially last gen.  Nintendo, masters of disguise.

What, the controller is last gen? Or do you think the graphics of the console affect the controller price?

I'm stating the hardware the controller is intended for is last gen.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 14, 2009, 01:15:16 PM
Wow lots of whining going on (Not surprisingly). Seriously it isn't that big of a deal, most of us already have at least one controller and a nunchuck, and my guess is that many here over the last freaken TWO PLUS years already own at least one other controller/nunchuck combo. Also the $20 price point is not surprising nor "extreme" considering what it ads to the Wii mote. In many ways it has potential to be just as important as the nunchuck.

People are missing a very intriguing thing in this story, Nintendo is willing to sacrifice launching it with Wii Sports in order for a 3rd party title to utilize it earlier.

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Also, I think many people will be disappointed with pass the remote games in Wii Sports Resort. 

Like they were disappointed with "pass the remote" with Wii sports? Seriously it isn't like you have to pass the remote you can get another Motion plus just like people got extra controllers along with a nunchuck to play Wii Sports. Not to mention Wii Play has sold amazingly well so a TON of people at least have an extra controller.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 14, 2009, 01:16:50 PM
This is essentially $80+ for a video game controller.  Not as expensive as the Neo Geo controller but definitely unprecedented in its own right considering the hardware is essentially last gen.  Nintendo, masters of disguise.

What, the controller is last gen? Or do you think the graphics of the console affect the controller price?

I'm stating the hardware the controller is intended for is last gen.

Oh wow, I'm not going to touch this ridiculous argument.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on April 14, 2009, 01:21:57 PM
Quote from: UncleBob
$110 for four players.

- Have you created your own math?  Like Isaac Newton did?

$50 + $20 + $20 + $20 = $110.

Hmmm your Math is bad, a Wii remote is $40 not $50 I am assuming you are calculating a Wii Remote, Nunchuk, Classic and MotionPlus so it will be $40 + $20 + $20 + $20 = $100
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Stogi on April 14, 2009, 01:23:17 PM
He's calculating how much at total of 4 M+ attachments would cost IF he were to buy WS:R as well.

His math is perfectly fine.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: D_Average on April 14, 2009, 01:26:19 PM
Overall, I think the main gripe is this, consumers essentially purchased 2/3 of a controller at launch, for 60 bones, that was simply technologically unable to deliver what Nintendo originally promised (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGSmC-FllNk) for the new Wii gaming experience.  Now, over two years later we have the option to shell out an extra 20, in the hopes, that this missing link will save the world, and deliver the 1:1 gaming we expected all along.  Just kinda sucks.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Stogi on April 14, 2009, 01:29:49 PM
It's no different from any other manufacturer of any product.

Apple, for instance, released a 4 gb ipod then 6 months later a 16 gb.

The fact is, you still had fun listening to your 4 gb, but now that you can listen to so much more, you feel jipped. It's the biggest hustle ever.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 14, 2009, 01:35:38 PM
Overall, I think the main gripe is this, consumers essentially purchased 2/3 of a controller at launch, for 60 bones, that was simply technologically unable to deliver what Nintendo originally promised (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGSmC-FllNk) for the new Wii gaming experience.  Now, over two years later we have the option to shell out an extra 20, in the hopes, that this missing link will save the world, and deliver the 1:1 gaming we expected all along.  Just kinda sucks.

Hey kind of like MS's Xbox FAT controller and the slimmer version or the PS3's sixaxis with rumble? The only difference is that you don't need buy a full priced controller in order to get features that should have came with the system. Better yet the wavebird for GameCube. My point is that controllers always see upgrades, and at the moment it is not REQUIRED that you buy a Wii Motion plus, but you do have that option and don't need to worry about paying another 40-50 to buy a redesigned controller to get features you may want.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 14, 2009, 01:35:59 PM
PlayStation 3 for SIX HUNDRED U.S. DOLLARS
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: D_Average on April 14, 2009, 01:40:59 PM
Overall, I think the main gripe is this, consumers essentially purchased 2/3 of a controller at launch, for 60 bones, that was simply technologically unable to deliver what Nintendo originally promised (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGSmC-FllNk) for the new Wii gaming experience.  Now, over two years later we have the option to shell out an extra 20, in the hopes, that this missing link will save the world, and deliver the 1:1 gaming we expected all along.  Just kinda sucks.

Hey kind of like MS's Xbox FAT controller and the slimmer version or the PS3's sixaxis with rumble? The only difference is that you don't need buy a full priced controller in order to get features that should have came with the system.

Those features are completely superfluous and not necessary in providing the core experience MS and Sony offered.  Nintendo has yet to deliver on that core experience.  Wii Boxing anyone?
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 14, 2009, 01:46:31 PM
Wii Boxing is fine.  The core experience is Bowling.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Stogi on April 14, 2009, 01:46:50 PM
Hey! I like Wii Boxing!
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Yoshidious on April 14, 2009, 01:49:54 PM
While I can understand some people feel shortchanged about paying additional money to get functionality they feel was promised originally, I'm still pleased that we're getting MotionPlus at all considering Wii is such a runaway success without it. Not that this is an act of charity from Nintendo by any means (I'm sure they will make plenty of money out of it in the end), but it is a somewhat risky move in the way it will segment the market, so I'm happy we'll get this experience now rather than having to wait until the next console or whatever. Having to pay for it to this extent is not so pleasurable, but ultimately I'm willing to do so because I'm confident it'll be worth it.

Also congratulations to GoldenPhoenix, her most recent post in this thread is her 10,000th here on the forums!
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 14, 2009, 01:52:26 PM
Overall, I think the main gripe is this, consumers essentially purchased 2/3 of a controller at launch, for 60 bones, that was simply technologically unable to deliver what Nintendo originally promised (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGSmC-FllNk) for the new Wii gaming experience.  Now, over two years later we have the option to shell out an extra 20, in the hopes, that this missing link will save the world, and deliver the 1:1 gaming we expected all along.  Just kinda sucks.

Hey kind of like MS's Xbox FAT controller and the slimmer version or the PS3's sixaxis with rumble? The only difference is that you don't need buy a full priced controller in order to get features that should have came with the system.

Those features are completely superfluous and not necessary in providing the core experience MS and Sony offered.  Nintendo has yet to deliver on that core experience.  Wii Boxing anyone?

What about the dual shock for the original Playstation?

Also that is solely your opinion in regards to the Wii not providing the core experience. There have been some fantastic uses of the WIi mote so far in various games. And considering the Wii is massacring the competition I'd say more then a few people are getting the "core experience".
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: D_Average on April 14, 2009, 01:53:14 PM
While I can understand some people feel shortchanged about paying additional money to get functionality they feel was promised originally, I'm still pleased that we're getting MotionPlus at all considering Wii is such a runaway success without it. Not that this is an act of charity from Nintendo by any means (I'm sure they will make plenty of money out of it in the end), but it is a somewhat risky move in the way it will segment the market, so I'm happy we'll get this experience now rather than having to wait until the next console or whatever. Having to pay for it to this extent is not so pleasurable, but ultimately I'm willing to do so because I'm confident it'll be worth it.

Couldn't agree more.  As irritating as the wait and extra cost are, at the end of the day, I still want to play good games.  And if this is what it takes, by all means, sign me up.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: NWR_Lindy on April 14, 2009, 01:54:38 PM
Nintendo just keeps racking up that money off of peripheral sales.

Wii Sports Resort is such a no-brainer purchase it isn't even funny.  What they should do is make a  Wii Sports Resort Play bundle that includes Wii Play, Wii Sports Resort, a WiiMote and WiiMotionPlus.  Then it would rule the NPD charts for infinity.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 14, 2009, 01:55:21 PM
Lotion Puss is a much better situation than $80 SNES games of the 1990s and having to change between the N64 Controller Pak and the Rumble Pak making it impossible for gamese to support both at the same time.

By 2013, the Wii Remote will be the FUCKING VOLTRON OF CONTROLLERS.

Defending the universe from bad entertainment.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 14, 2009, 01:55:39 PM
Nintendo just keeps racking up that money off of peripheral sales.

Wii Sports Resort is such a no-brainer purchase it isn't even funny.  What they should do is make a  Wii Sports Resort Play bundle that includes Wii Play, Wii Sports Resort, a WiiMote and WiiMotionPlus.  Then it would rule the NPD charts for infinity.

I was actually thinking of a Wii Play 2 with a controller/motion plus combo.

It is kind of funny though people are freaking about M+ but MS still gets away by overcharging like CRAZY for 512MB memory cards, $100 last generation Wi-fi adapter, and their "last generation" controller (OH no I dint!). Nintendo introduces something that honestly none of us would even DREAM they would do considering Nintendo of old, that could fundamentally change how we interact with Wii games and charge $20 for it and it is the end of the world. ;)
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: D_Average on April 14, 2009, 01:56:31 PM
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Also that is solely your opinion in regards to the Wii not providing the core experience. There have been some fantastic uses of the WIi mote so far in various games. And considering the Wii is massacring the competition I'd say more then a few people are getting the "core experience".

True, there are many owners very satisfied with whats out there already.  However, I'm just bringing up the point that it is a brute fact that 1:1 sword fighting and certain sports moves are not yet possible, and these were elements of game play heavily promised from the beginning, hence the "revolution".   
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Stogi on April 14, 2009, 01:58:02 PM
Some times I feel like Nintendo is drug dealer.

If you guys enjoyed crack, then you'll love SUPER CRACK! Only $20.


*sigh* I'm going to watch some gameplay vids now.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on April 14, 2009, 02:01:15 PM
This really reminds me of the N64 rumble pack, if you wanted to experience some rumble you had to buy a 15 or 20 dollar rumble pack (I forgot how much they retailed for). Most games that have Wii MotionPlus support it will be optional, if MotionPlus support is manditory you will see the game packaged with the peripheral, since Nintendo probably enforces a policy that deals with add-on peripherals. 
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 14, 2009, 02:01:55 PM
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Also that is solely your opinion in regards to the Wii not providing the core experience. There have been some fantastic uses of the WIi mote so far in various games. And considering the Wii is massacring the competition I'd say more then a few people are getting the "core experience".

True, there are many owners very satisfied with whats out there already.  However, I'm just bringing up the point that it is a brute fact that 1:1 sword fighting and certain sports moves are not yet possible, and these were elements of game play heavily promised from the beginning, hence the "revolution".  

I agree with you here, Nintendo did oversell the Wii functionality, then again it isn't something we should be shocked about considering it is pretty common in this industry (Doesn't make it right though). One thing I THINK we can agree on is that this opens up some exciting possibilities. Heck to get me EXTREMELY interested in a Golf game is amazing
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 14, 2009, 02:03:41 PM
This really reminds me of the N64 rumble pack, if you wanted to experience some rumble you had to buy a 15 or 20 dollar rumble pack (I forgot how much they retailed for). Most games that have Wii MotionPlus support it will be optional, if MotionPlus support is manditory you will see the game packaged with the peripheral, since Nintendo probably enforces a policy that deals with add-on peripherals. 

I think that is how it will work as well. Games that need it will be packed with it. Nintendo is showing signs that they are trying there best to work with 3rd parties with this announcement that it will release in time for Tiger Woods.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: D_Average on April 14, 2009, 02:20:18 PM
I agree with you here, Nintendo did oversell the Wii functionality, then again it isn't something we should be shocked about considering it is pretty common in this industry (Doesn't make it right though). One thing I THINK we can agree on is that this opens up some exciting possibilities. Heck to get me EXTREMELY interested in a Golf game is amazing

Very true.  And I've had my hopes set on the new Tiger for some time now.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on April 14, 2009, 03:50:32 PM
What about the dual shock for the original Playstation?

The original PSone analog controller is still one of my favorites EVER.  Dual Shock was a step backwards except for the rumble support.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_Analog_Controller

Apparently it's a collector's item... wonder if I can find my old one and sell it for mad profit.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Pale on April 14, 2009, 03:51:05 PM
I'm sorry but Wii Tennis IS Wii Sports.  As great as Wii Bowling is... Nine times out of ten if you ask someone to describe the Wii, the first thing they will bring up is Tennis.

And my point of the pass the remote thing being a let down is assuming it is going to be more forced in Resort than a result of the game being played.

For example, how much you want to bet the default mode for the sword fighting is trade off attacking a dummy of some sort?

Why exactly is it frisbee dog?  That is the kind of thing that would have been in a training mode in the original Wii Sports. The main game should be multiple people playing frisbee.

I guess the pessimist in me is just expecting more of these lame trade-offs that are going to lower the interactivity of the whole thing

And honestly, how can anyone be happy with the fact that the Wave Race clone is only a single player game out of the box?


All I can see is that they are asking me to pay at least 70 bucks for a sequel to what was a pack-in game... and that just doesn't feel right.

And because people seem to be confusing the math in this thread left and right, that's because I know for a fact I'm going to want to at least play this game two player.


Again, all my gripes will be moot if we end up seeing more Motion Plus attachments packed in with other great games.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 14, 2009, 03:52:41 PM
What about the dual shock for the original Playstation?

The original PSone analog controller is still one of my favorites EVER.  Dual Shock was a step backwards except for the rumble support.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_Analog_Controller

Apparently it's a collector's item... wonder if I can find my old one and sell it for mad profit.

Ah sorry about that, I forgot all about the FIRST dual analog that was not rumble compatible. Should have remembered that Sony only changed their controller features after Nintendo showed that they could work! The dual shock came after the rumble pack, while the dual analog came shortly after Mario 64 I believe.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on April 14, 2009, 03:58:40 PM
Pale, you're making a lot of assumptions about a game that hasn't been shown publicly since last July.  We really know very little about the final content of Resort.  Yes, today's announcement re-confirms the three events shown last year, but they have likely changed a great deal since the initial demo.

If the most compelling (simultaneous) multiplayer event is kendo sparring, I'll be fine with a single MotionPlus for a while.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 14, 2009, 04:01:10 PM
Also we have to realize that Wii sports resort will have almost DOUBLE the events of the first game. Besides didn't they get away with full price in Japan with the first game?
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 14, 2009, 04:04:09 PM
With flying colored hippos.  Wii Sports Japan was a success.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Stogi on April 14, 2009, 04:10:01 PM
I'm sorry but Wii Tennis IS Wii Sports.  As great as Wii Bowling is... Nine times out of ten if you ask someone to describe the Wii, the first thing they will bring up is Tennis.

And my point of the pass the remote thing being a let down is assuming it is going to be more forced in Resort than a result of the game being played.

For example, how much you want to bet the default mode for the sword fighting is trade off attacking a dummy of some sort?

Why exactly is it frisbee dog?  That is the kind of thing that would have been in a training mode in the original Wii Sports. The main game should be multiple people playing frisbee.

I guess the pessimist in me is just expecting more of these lame trade-offs that are going to lower the interactivity of the whole thing

And honestly, how can anyone be happy with the fact that the Wave Race clone is only a single player game out of the box?


All I can see is that they are asking me to pay at least 70 bucks for a sequel to what was a pack-in game... and that just doesn't feel right.

And because people seem to be confusing the math in this thread left and right, that's because I know for a fact I'm going to want to at least play this game two player.


Again, all my gripes will be moot if we end up seeing more Motion Plus attachments packed in with other great games.

Dude relax with the bulleted style points. It hurts my eyes. Secondly, we know nothing of the modes and only a little of the games. So the preemptive bitching isn't going to work.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 14, 2009, 04:14:25 PM
I always thought there was a split almost between people playing Bowling and playing Tennis. My guess is that Wii Sports Resort will have 3 maybe 4 games that utilize two or more remotes.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 14, 2009, 04:40:45 PM
Wii Tennis is my favorite Wii Experience ever. 

I just hope they add Wii Frisbee golf for Wii Sports Resort, they need to add more than just tossing to a dog....and Disc golf would be an amazing addition.

Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Stogi on April 14, 2009, 04:43:46 PM
I was thinking the exact same thing when I saw videos of frisbee dog.

Where is Frolf at?
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: D_Average on April 14, 2009, 04:48:20 PM
I was thinking the exact same thing when I saw videos of frisbee dog.

Where is Frolf at?

Seriously.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Mop it up on April 14, 2009, 04:49:50 PM
The price is exactly what I expected, there was no way it was going to be less than $20 because Nintendo can get away with charging $20.

Micro-evolutions are just something that have been fast becoming the trend with all technology, so it's something I have to learn to accept. It's been a part of computers for over a decade now, with all of the various cards, chips, and accessories you can buy to upgrade your computer. If someone doesn't want to buy those upgrades they can just wait until they're all available in a new model and buy that.

Anyways, I haven't been following up on any of the Wii Motion Plus games so I don't even know what it is capable of. It's something I'd want to try before buying though, so I hope they set up some demo stations of Wii Sports Resort in stores.

I can see there being mark-ups of the accessory and also Wii Sports Resort because of the potentially huge demand for it.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Pale on April 14, 2009, 05:09:44 PM
Heh, I'm not in the greatest of moods today, and I kept saying I know I'm being pessimistic.  But all I'm worried about is that all the games will be glorified single player games because of the inclusion of only one Motion Plus.

Like I said though, if this ends up being a situation similar to the N64 memory expansion (I ended up with like 3 of those because so many games packed them in) AND Wii Sports Resort is a great multiplayer experience... then I'll be happy.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 14, 2009, 05:25:43 PM
One-controller pack-ins didn't stop Wii Tennis and Bathroom Scales from taking off.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Stratos on April 14, 2009, 06:28:38 PM
Lotion Puss is a much better situation than $80 SNES games of the 1990s and having to change between the N64 Controller Pak and the Rumble Pak making it impossible for gamese to support both at the same time.

Perfect Dark and a few other games could use both just fine.


Also, some people cite Tennis as the headline game of WiiSports but Bowliong is the most popular in multiple households I know of and another friend of mine would have paid $50 for just Wii Boxing. Different strokes for different folks. Each game has a different type of appeal to different people. I think WSR will be the same way.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on April 14, 2009, 06:35:33 PM
Do we know when this game comes out in Japan?
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Stratos on April 14, 2009, 06:37:47 PM
Do we know when this game comes out in Japan?

A month before the rest of the world gets it. Early June is what they've stated before.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: nickmitch on April 14, 2009, 07:18:07 PM
Is there any confirmation about WM+ being removable from the condom?  I hate that damn jacket.
Also, I'm really hoping for 3rd party bundles here.  I already own 4 WiiMotes for Guitar Hero, and that would great for any EA Sports games that use it.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 14, 2009, 07:20:50 PM
Is there any confirmation about WM+ being removable from the condom?  I hate that damn jacket.
Also, I'm really hoping for 3rd party bundles here.  I already own 4 WiiMotes for Guitar Hero, and that would great for any EA Sports games that use it.

I would think you should be able to cut it out if it isn't easily removable.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Caliban on April 14, 2009, 07:41:52 PM
Cool. It's official now. I'll be getting WSRM+ pack, and a second M+.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: EasyCure on April 14, 2009, 07:44:11 PM
Cool. It's official now. I'll be getting WSRM+ pack, and a second M+.

pretty much.. who wants to buy me a 'lotion puss' for my birthday?
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Stogi on April 14, 2009, 07:52:57 PM
When's your birthday?
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: decoyman on April 14, 2009, 08:39:01 PM
I think they just kind of HAVE to release a glove stop being snarky and calling it a condom, dangit[/i] with it too, since they're pushing the "USE A GLOVE" thing, and M+ makes it not fit anymore. The easiest thing is to just include the glove with M+.

I fully expect it to be removable.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: AV on April 14, 2009, 09:10:23 PM
I hope Nintendo gives Wii sprorts Resort online features. They don't have to, but it would be great since its getting a World wide release. If nintendo is serious about getting casual gamers to connect Wii online having an online mode, and possibly a minigame that can only be unlocked if you go online would be the way to force it.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: KnowsNothing on April 14, 2009, 09:21:27 PM
I want Mario-god-damn-Golf with my motion plus.

>=(
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Rize on April 14, 2009, 10:06:33 PM
I had no expectations for price on this and 20 dollars is exactly what I would have guessed.  Exactly as much as the nunchuk.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Mop it up on April 14, 2009, 10:56:35 PM
I want Mario-god-damn-Golf with my motion plus.
That would be pretty sweet, but unfortunately it doesn't seem like Camelot want to make any more Mario games. That's why they made We Love Golf instead, which looks like a sea of blandness.

I would think you should be able to cut it out if it isn't easily removable.
That's definitely what I'm going to do.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: UncleBob on April 14, 2009, 11:06:25 PM
Pale, you're making a lot of assumptions about a game that hasn't been shown publicly since last July.

Because, you know, no one else is making assumptions about the game we know next-to-nothing about. ;)
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: D_Average on April 14, 2009, 11:52:59 PM
Pale, you're making a lot of assumptions about a game that hasn't been shown publicly since last July.

Because, you know, no one else is making assumptions about the game we know next-to-nothing about. ;)

I predict a Metacritic score of 82.  The last game received a 76.  Since then, reviewers have warmed up just a bit.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on April 14, 2009, 11:58:48 PM
I want Mario-god-damn-Golf with my motion plus.
That would be pretty sweet, but unfortunately it doesn't seem like Camelot want to make any more Mario games.
I suspect it's more along the lines of Nintendo not wanting to make another Mario Golf game.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Stogi on April 15, 2009, 12:11:02 AM
Who knows? The way Nintendo has announced things lately, it's possible that it is in the works.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: KnowsNothing on April 15, 2009, 01:23:59 AM
At least give me a NPC version of Toadstool Tour.  Something, please :(

If the impressions are to be trusted, however, Tiger Woods with M+ seems to work quite well.  I guess that's okay, I GUESS.  Grand Slam Tennis looks good as well, and I KNOW I won't get a NPC Mario Tennis wit M+...augh this could turn out to be quite expensive...

Of course, now there's the whole "first-gen" dilemma...will the second batch of M+ games be significantly better than the first as devs learn to use the new hardware, or is it close enough to the regular Wiimote that it won't matter all that much?  Probably the former, but still.  I get nervous.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: EasyCure on April 15, 2009, 11:54:36 AM
When's your birthday?

6.24
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: NWR_Lindy on April 15, 2009, 01:15:05 PM
I'm looking forward to the next generation of WM+ games, when developers get the obvious "swing the bat" mechanic out of their system and (hopefully) start doing some innovative stuff with the technology.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on April 15, 2009, 01:49:24 PM
Looks like GameStop is up to their old tricks again, they are charging $24.99 for MotionPlus. (http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=74505)
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: KDR_11k on April 15, 2009, 02:47:56 PM
I'm looking forward to the next generation of WM+ games, when developers get the obvious "swing the bat" mechanic out of their system and (hopefully) start doing some innovative stuff with the technology.

Like swinging a sword?
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Stogi on April 15, 2009, 02:51:19 PM
I always thought that a game like black & white would work superbly with M+.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: KDR_11k on April 15, 2009, 03:24:09 PM
I think B&W doesn't require M+.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Mop it up on April 15, 2009, 07:37:47 PM
I want Mario-god-damn-Golf with my motion plus.
That would be pretty sweet, but unfortunately it doesn't seem like Camelot want to make any more Mario games.
I suspect it's more along the lines of Nintendo not wanting to make another Mario Golf game.
I'm not sure, maybe it is both. I do remember reading an interview with Camelot around the time when We Love Golf was released, and they expressed that they were happy to work outside of the restrictions and expectations of creating a Mario game, or something along those lines.

But why wouldn't Nintendo (and Camelot) want to make another Mario Golf game? All of the other Mario games on Wii sold over a million and counting.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 15, 2009, 07:47:30 PM
Golf isn't interesting without Daisy

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Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: vudu on April 17, 2009, 04:40:22 PM
I wonder how many retailers will jack the price up another $5?  I've seen the Wii Wheel being sold for $15 and the Zapper sold for $25 at so many places (GameStop, TRU, etc.) and I'm just thankful some stores (Walmart!) doesn't do that...

O RLY?! (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=9204255)
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Mop it up on April 17, 2009, 09:22:16 PM
I wonder how many retailers will jack the price up another $5?  I've seen the Wii Wheel being sold for $15 and the Zapper sold for $25 at so many places (GameStop, TRU, etc.) and I'm just thankful some stores (Walmart!) doesn't do that...
O RLY?! (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=9204255)
Pwned.

Wal*Mart just claim that their prices are lower than other stores, not lower than MSRP...
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: UncleBob on April 18, 2009, 12:43:51 AM
Funny - they're $9.xx in stores.

For the record, Wii Motion Plus is up for pre-order on GameStop at $25. :)
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 18, 2009, 01:34:53 AM
I preordered two Wii Motion Pluses from Amazoz.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 18, 2009, 10:55:17 AM
I hope one was packaged with WSR & the other one was packaged with GST.

or do you plan on buying both of those(& TW2010) and just wanted to make sure you could include all 4 controllers?
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 18, 2009, 12:08:11 PM
I think B&W doesn't require M+.

No games require Wii MotionPlus, I don't think Nintendo would allow that. It would be kinda stupid anyways since you then limit your audience to those who own the add-on. The only way I can see it being a good idea is if you get Nintendo to allow you to bundle the add-on with your game.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 18, 2009, 12:47:57 PM
WSR doesn't require it?
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 18, 2009, 03:29:10 PM
I don't think it does. Every preview and report I have read says it will support WMP, I haven't seen one that says the game requires it.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Mop it up on April 18, 2009, 03:45:32 PM
Does Wii Fit require the Balance Board?
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 18, 2009, 04:25:52 PM
That's not quite the same thing though. The Wii Balance Board is a specialty controller while Wii MotionPlus is an add-on.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: DAaaMan64 on April 18, 2009, 04:26:04 PM
If it didn't, I'd be even more pissed that they haven't separated the damn balance board yet. I own both Shaun White and Skate It, but I don't own a damn balance board and I'm not shelling out 90 for one.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: KDR_11k on April 18, 2009, 04:57:33 PM
I think B&W doesn't require M+.

No games require Wii MotionPlus, I don't think Nintendo would allow that. It would be kinda stupid anyways since you then limit your audience to those who own the add-on. The only way I can see it being a good idea is if you get Nintendo to allow you to bundle the add-on with your game.

We were talking about a hypothetical game and I don't think that Black & White did anything that would benefit from WMP support since there's no rotating involved. It was all pointer based.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: vudu on April 18, 2009, 06:00:08 PM
If it didn't, I'd be even more pissed that they haven't separated the damn balance board yet. I own both Shaun White and Skate It, but I don't own a damn balance board and I'm not shelling out 90 for one.

Try contacting Nintendo and tell them your balance board broke and you want to buy a replacement.  See what they say.

I'd tell them that it was your fault it broke (dropped it out of a 2-story window or something dumb like that) so they don't offer to replace it for free if you send back your old one.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: Stogi on April 18, 2009, 08:49:14 PM
I think B&W doesn't require M+.

No games require Wii MotionPlus, I don't think Nintendo would allow that. It would be kinda stupid anyways since you then limit your audience to those who own the add-on. The only way I can see it being a good idea is if you get Nintendo to allow you to bundle the add-on with your game.

We were talking about a hypothetical game and I don't think that Black & White did anything that would benefit from WMP support since there's no rotating involved. It was all pointer based.

That's my point. Black and White controlled well, but with WMP it could control even better.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: KDR_11k on April 19, 2009, 08:58:33 AM
That's my point. Black and White controlled well, but with WMP it could control even better.

But how so? There's nothing in that game that would benefit from WMP!
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 21, 2009, 12:22:04 AM
Wii Snorks Report discussion here.
Title: Re: Wii Sports Resort and Wii MotionPlus Dated for America
Post by: King of Twitch on May 21, 2009, 12:36:53 AM
This thread is about Mutton Plucks release date, start a new one