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Title: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 23, 2008, 11:26:11 PM
Publisher:Marvelous Interactive and Xseed Developer:Image Epoch Genre:RPG -Turn based - Traditional fantasy RPG - Luminous Arc staffers on board - Graphics style is similar to tri-Ace games - 16:9 - 3 character party - One shared AP gauge between the team, which empties as actions are performed - multiple attacks are possible, as are massive attacks that will drain a lot of AP - if party members use the same skills, those skills will be increased - beasts = Roguresu. These creatures help teach you throughout the game -the person responsable for Tales of Symphonia's excelent battle system is responsible fo Arc Rise Fantasia's as well - Classic Controller, Gamecube controller, Nunchuck/Wiimote controller options - Not a lot of swinging motions - 40 hours to beat the main quest, 10-20 more hours for sidequests and “additional parts” - Not related to Luminous Arc - Marvelous doesn’t think the game will sell well but are still thinking about expanding the game into second and third sequels Producer (MMV): Hideyuki Mizutani Development Producer (Image Epoch): Ryoei Mikage Director (Image Epoch): Hiroyuki Kanemaru Scenario: Takumi Miyajima Composition/Music Director: Yasunori Mitsuda Main Character Original Design: Kenichi Yoshida Roguresu Design: Shin Nagasawa
Well the game was confirmed (http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/2008/10/09/tgs08-arc-rise-fantasia-to-make-north-american-dreams-come-true/) for NA release in 2009.
Here (http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1219230_1124.html) is a trailer
More here (http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/photos/arc-rise-fantasia/) Offical website (http://www.mmv.co.jp/special/game/wii/arcrise/top.html)
IGN hands on (http://wii.ign.com/articles/918/918517p1.html)
Who else is excited for the game?
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 24, 2008, 12:28:07 AM
ARC BOOB FANTASIA, OH YEAH
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 24, 2008, 01:16:31 AM
Yeah I am interested in the game too Pro.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 24, 2008, 02:37:23 AM
"ARF" appears to be the glitzy fluttery PlayStation RPG this generation has been lacking so dearly.
The sooner it comes out, the sooner Wii will commandeer the genre.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 24, 2008, 02:39:41 AM
Aren't there a lot of RPGs coming out on Wii now?
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 24, 2008, 02:50:02 AM
Not now, later. But they're significant as a glowing lighthouse that should help attract attention and spawn *further* developments.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 24, 2008, 03:02:54 AM
Yeah I am glad that there are great RPGs being unveiled. Pro speaks the truth. It is pretty awesome all these rpgs are coming out.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: KDR_11k on October 24, 2008, 11:20:28 AM
It does look like a lower quality PS2 game though...
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: TofuFury on October 24, 2008, 02:41:25 PM
This game looks incredibly fun. I haven't played a console rpg since I beat Kingdom Hearts 2, but with games like this and ToS 2 coming, that will probably change.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: Adrock on October 24, 2008, 04:56:47 PM
The graphics aren't great (Monster Hunter 3, in particular, puts this to shame), but I guess beggars can't be choosers. I'm interested in at least playing this though given the chose: Kizuna > Arc Rise Fantasia.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 24, 2008, 05:27:06 PM
It does look like a lower quality PS2 game though...
Then it's a good sign that Wii is inheriting the PSX RPG market -- something not as feasible on the PS3/360 super-duper-expensive-and-time-consuming RPG business.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 24, 2008, 09:35:07 PM
It does look like a lower quality PS2 game though...
It IS Image Epoch's first 3D game, after-all...
Protip Fun Fact of the Day: The guy in charge of the battle system in Arc Rise is the same guy who was in charge of Tale of Symphonia's...
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 24, 2008, 09:42:01 PM
I can see they clearly fired him for trying to shove turn-based battles on the newer Tales games.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 24, 2008, 09:46:31 PM
Nah, he left with another Tales Studio buddy, who happens to be the director of the game...The director happens to be the guy who was the level concept designer and script director for Symphonia...
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: KDR_11k on October 25, 2008, 01:27:46 AM
Protip Fun Fact of the Day: The guy in charge of the battle system in Arc Rise is the same guy who was in charge of Tale of Symphonia's...
Ah, that explains why the GUI looks so much like ToS.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 28, 2008, 11:19:54 PM
Added a few details to OP.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: KDR_11k on October 29, 2008, 04:05:46 AM
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- Marvelous doesn’t think the game will sell well but are still thinking about expanding the game into second and third sequels
What was the term again? "Good money after bad"? Why can't they make it sell well?
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: TofuFury on October 29, 2008, 01:24:48 PM
I don't see why it would sell bad. It's an RPG for the wii, which is a genre the system really needs more of. It looks like a very solid release.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 29, 2008, 01:35:28 PM
RPGs don't sell on Wii. That's why there aren't any =D
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: TofuFury on October 29, 2008, 02:42:54 PM
How many RPGs are available now on the wii? Not counting the VC, I can only think of Paper Mario and side offerings from main series RPGs (Dragon Quest: Swords and a mystery dungeon Chocobo game). It's not like it's crowded at the moment.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 29, 2008, 03:14:47 PM
The North Sea Pro likes to joke around sometimes. I think that is the case here.
Of the top of my head I can think of a few.Barouqe, those FF spin-offs that you mentioned,Dragon Warrior Swords, there is another but I can't place the name.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 29, 2008, 03:15:23 PM
Opoona is the other known RPG. And they all bombed.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on October 29, 2008, 03:40:38 PM
Dokapon Kingdom is sort of a RPG. There's also Baroque and I guess DQ Swords if you want to count those 3. TOS2 is just around the corner. In 2009 there will be a whole lot of Wii RPGs.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 29, 2008, 03:44:17 PM
Yes that is the other one Pro. Thank you.Hmmm from reviews the reason Opoona bombed was because I think that the reviewers said the art style was to young for their tastes.Baroque was given a 3 by NP and I think other sites did low scores as well.The part where you when you died you lost your weapons and items and had to start at the begining of the tower irked many people.Dragon warrior swords wasn't deep enough. I haven't seen any reviews on Chocobo tales.So I will look for some. Yeah I recall that game now Flames. It is getting good reviews.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: TofuFury on October 30, 2008, 02:26:09 AM
The North Sea Pro likes to joke around sometimes. I think that is the case here.
I wouldn't be surprised. The internet doesn't do a great job of expressing tone.
But anyway, I still have high hopes for the game. And if they're worried about sales, they can always throw a 'z' around or add horses.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 30, 2008, 03:09:19 AM
I hope you are joking about that.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: KDR_11k on October 30, 2008, 03:53:44 AM
When a developer goes with an "it won't sell" attitude into marketing then it won't sell as they'll make sure to make no attempts to push it. Even worse, they'll ship only a small number of copies so even if it does sell the sales get cut short almost instantly.
Of course they'll have to get some better screenshots on the box, the lack of lighting ruins the ones in this thread, makes it look like PS1. Symphonia could do it due to the outlines (and I don't think it even lacked lighting) but here there's really no excuse.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 30, 2008, 03:57:53 AM
If developers admit the game won't sell, how do they get publishers?
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: BeautifulShy on January 11, 2009, 01:02:21 PM
More screenshots (http://Http://nintendoeverything.com/?p=8195) It's starting to look better.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: jakeOSX on January 11, 2009, 03:59:15 PM
i missed this the first time it was posted, looks good, i'll have to check it out when it comes out.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: BeautifulShy on January 11, 2009, 04:51:42 PM
According to Bill it comes out in June.Do you have a exact date Bill?
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: BeautifulShy on January 28, 2009, 12:29:22 AM
It's a shame I didn't get an answer.
More screens and art (http://Http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/20090128/arc.htm) It is looking better.The new screenshots are at the bottom.I'll change the OP with the new screens when I get around to it.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on January 28, 2009, 08:32:38 AM
Maxi everyone has a place holder date of 6/30/09.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 28, 2009, 04:12:57 PM
Not buying this game cuz I can't stand turned-based RPG-anything, but the costume designs look great with a decent amount of selective skin on the girlies. Sorta old-school ROBOTECH, but actually sexy.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on February 01, 2009, 12:00:30 PM
Some new info:
Courtesy of Neogaf, they also have some screens (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=14590184&postcount=353) Official website (http://mmv.co.jp/special/game/wii/arcrise/top.html)
- Team making game composed of TOS' game designer, cg director, scenario writer, main battle programmer and other people from TOS. - The game will have Tales-like optional Skits, opened by pressing 2 button - Weapons used in battle get level ups - Their abilities pop off in form of geometric pieces-think tetris. Trade pieces among party or put em tetris style into frames of future weapons. - Magical abilities are based on each character's 'cage' ,they can be leveled in special shops and fit with gems allowing casting of various elemental spells. - Game has a brisk pacing-30 house long. Sidequests-guild, casino. Casino has minigames that'll use ir/motion sensing capabilities of the Wii. Characters- NP only did the first four characters that were revealed a long time ago. L'arc Bright Lagoon- mc, merc supports sick mom, and lecherous uncle. Ryfia-mystery girl Alphonse 'Arth' Zena Meridia- meridia prince, older bro is the king, L'arc's friend Adelle Nevanlina- childhood friend/neighbor of L'arc, magic teacher
These ToS developers now in Image Epoch left Tales Studio roughly a year ago.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: KDR_11k on February 01, 2009, 01:45:44 PM
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- Their abilities pop off in form of geometric pieces-think tetris. Trade pieces among party or put em tetris style into frames of future weapons.
Sounds more like lonpos or whatever the official name of that is.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: vudu on March 03, 2009, 03:02:45 PM
After flying under my radar for the past couple months, I finally read a preview about this game in Nintendo Power that got me excited.
The boring/uninformative bullet points by Maxi and Flames leave much to be desired. (Sorry guys!)
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: Ymeegod on March 03, 2009, 06:41:21 PM
Yeah, had my eye on this for awhile. Still not to sure if "shared AP" is a smart move. They still have time to revert back to everyone has their own mana which is kinda the norm.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 03, 2009, 10:23:44 PM
The Shared AP reminds me of the system used in Skies of Arcadia Legends.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: vudu on March 04, 2009, 02:02:40 PM
The shared AP is the reason I'm excited for this game! I'm tired of wasting a turn forcing my healer to wack the enemy with a staff for a pitiful 12 damage because I'm trying to conserve MP (or just don't have anyone to heal. Why bother when my main attacker can smash the opponent for 100+ damage? The system seems flexible because each turn can be customized/optimized to meet the current needs of my party.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: KDR_11k on March 04, 2009, 02:20:09 PM
I'd prefer if games simply stopped having fragile mages as characters that are worthless unless they use MP and when they do often still don't have the damage output of a physical combat character. These are not RTSes, the casters are not some artillery unit you hide behind your direct battle force, they sit there on the frontline trading blows like everybody else. It's not even a tradeoff, usually each character gets his turn and on that turn can do what he's ordered to, when you decide to use healing or such the only thing you're giving up is a pitiful attack that doesn't even matter, it'd be more of a tradeoff if using a healing spell would mean you lose out on a powerful attack that round or something. Forcing you to pay for defensive actions from the same pool as offensive actions means healing isn't just something you spam mindlessly until you run out of MP, it means you actually have to weight offense and defense and can play riskier to finish a target off faster and such.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: Ymeegod on March 08, 2009, 05:13:42 PM
That's why i loved FF X's sphere system. It allowed you to create any type of character as long as you put points in those areas--you weren't limited by the characters class.
Not sure if AP builds or stores but you still have your sp to play around with. So even if you have enough AP you might not have the SP to go along with your move. Not sure if SP regenerates but if it doesn't they you couldn't just use one characters to attack all the time.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 11, 2009, 04:42:50 PM
More Here (http://gamekyo.com/newsen31007_arc-rise-fantasia-meets-luminous-arc.html)
It seems that there are Luminous Arc characters in the game.That is a nice addition.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 11, 2009, 05:27:03 PM
New gameplay footage (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/49089.html)
I love the ending of the video.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 22, 2009, 01:09:37 PM
Two trailers directly from Marvelous Entertainment's magazine debut DVD last month.
>> Arc Rise Fantasia (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/wii/arf.html) "PV2" trailer * just cutscene junk "PV3" traielr * some gameplay
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: Ymeegod on July 22, 2009, 03:31:57 PM
I can't wait for this game too--summer is kinda dried other than exp packs for Fallout 3. It's a shame the Japanese overlooked this game (it only sold 40K and it's been out a month+). It scored 32/40 if anyone cares (which is a solid 8).
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: Ymeegod on July 22, 2009, 04:00:38 PM
Fook me--went to check on my pre-order which was set at Aug 25th now it states 2/10/10. Pulls out hair.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: BeautifulShy on August 04, 2009, 10:47:46 AM
Yeah it is disapointing to hear that it has been pushed back.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 04, 2009, 12:37:39 PM
That means Muramasa is the only notable Marvelous game release for the rest of the year. What the hell is going on.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: KDR_11k on August 04, 2009, 03:26:21 PM
Everybody's worried that 2009 will be too crowded so they delay to 2010 and end up getting crushed in the crowd?
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 04, 2009, 03:38:41 PM
I just love how this industry works.
Crash, already. Please.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: KDR_11k on August 05, 2009, 02:07:26 AM
They're already flying as fast as they can but the ground is still pretty far away. Give them some time to reach it.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 26, 2010, 05:34:25 PM
So did anybody pick this up? Came out a few days ago. I need to grab this still.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: vudu on July 27, 2010, 01:52:41 PM
I haven't seen a single review. I didn't even know it was out yet.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: Ymeegod on July 27, 2010, 02:58:07 PM
NP did their review --7.5, Gameradar has one online--6.5, but that's about it so far. Nothing different from the Japanese other than crappy english voice over, not sure why developers just don't use subtitiles.
Still going end up renting it and see for myself.
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Post by: Sarail on July 27, 2010, 03:09:32 PM
I'm planning on picking it up for sure. Looks like a fun battle system.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: Mannypon on July 27, 2010, 03:18:05 PM
There are a handfull of reviews trickling out but I'm half way out the door right now so I'll just throw out what I've heard so far about it.
Most reviews and user feedback state that the game is playable with no fatal flaws or crashes but it all comes across too generic. Its been described as a low budget Tales game. The voice acting is ridiculous to put it lightly and the writing is not far behind (from what I've seen). The graphics have been a mixed bag from what I hear. Some areas look brilliant while others not so much. The overworld and towns do look sweet though but one weird thing that I've noticed is that you can't really explore the inside of buildings which, for some strange reason, I'm finding a little tough to swallow lol. Whenever you enter a building you get a still backdrop and character portraits similar to a SRPG. The only time you see the interior in 3d is for cutscenes.
Another complaint I've seen is that the game has some sudden spikes in difficulty and at times may require serious grinding. All in all, this sounds like a really old school jrpg. I was debating on buying this game but after hearing the feedback and watching some footage on youtube, I might just pass and continue my adventuring in DQ9 till the new DS FF game drops in Oct. I've also been thinking of picking Little King's Story up as I've been hearing that's a hidden gem.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: cubist on October 06, 2011, 02:00:48 AM
I hate to say this...but I'm enjoying the sh*t out of this game! Voice acting aside, this game really is the best RPG on Wii right now in the U.S. (until rain falls here hopefully!).
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: Mannypon on October 06, 2011, 08:28:16 AM
Thanks for bringing this game back from the dead, I forgot all about it. I might give this game a shot after I'm done with xenoblade.
You care to share what aspects of the game your really enjoying?
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: Caterkiller on October 06, 2011, 03:22:38 PM
Yeah Cubist, your testimony will have me decide to go out and get it or not.
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Post by: ejamer on October 06, 2011, 03:56:42 PM
I'm another fence-dweller for this game. Wanted it, but initial reviews weren't very positive so it moved onto my "wait and see" list... where it was promptly forgotten. Maybe if a bunch of people are all interested in the game it should be nominated for a NWR playthrough. Even if it's not retro, it would be fun.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: Mop it up on October 06, 2011, 09:05:24 PM
Add me to the list of people who took the wait-and-see approach. I haven't yet come across a price I'm willing to pay.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: Ymeegod on October 07, 2011, 02:34:28 AM
Ending up playing this a few months back--can't really recommend this one to anyone. The voices are pretty damn bad and I figured I'll just turn the sound off and use subtitles but the battles require you to have the sound on--the characters shout stuff like "I'm having a bad feeling about this" for example which means the enemy's about to release an major attack. You wouldn't be able to surive without their callouts. And no the callouts didn't have subtitles like the cutscenes--and there's wasn't an Japanese language option neither.
The overall game wasn't anything special--you're better off just importing Xenoblade, don't be an idiot and wait for the NA release because it's not coming and if you don't order now the game is just going become scarce later on.
Title: Re: Arc Rise Fantasia!
Post by: cubist on October 08, 2011, 01:05:37 AM
Ending up playing this a few months back--can't really recommend this one to anyone. The voices are pretty damn bad and I figured I'll just turn the sound off and use subtitles but the battles require you to have the sound on--the characters shout stuff like "I'm having a bad feeling about this" for example which means the enemy's about to release an major attack. You wouldn't be able to surive without their callouts. And no the callouts didn't have subtitles like the cutscenes--and there's wasn't an Japanese language option neither.
The overall game wasn't anything special--you're better off just importing Xenoblade, don't be an idiot and wait for the NA release because it's not coming and if you don't order now the game is just going become scarce later on.
Well, I like old school JRPG's. I'm one of those RPG gamers that will pick a fight until I've leveled up enough to kick ass before a dungeon comes up. I guess I'm just weird that way.
If you enjoyed Tales of Symphonia on the GCN, this is actually a step up. There was some serious effort placed in this one. The battle system is a different than any other game. There are no random battles. The graphics are decent. The town designs are very artsy and sometimes epic depending on your location. About 10 hours in, you won't notice the crappy voice acting...and you'll find that a lot of work was put in to the story itself.
The game takes the elements from Final Fantasy IV, VII, Tales of Symphonia, and Skies of Arcadia, but has enough uniqueness to stand on its own. The spells and magic in the game aren't too shabby either.
Again, I agree with Ymeegod about the voice acting. It really does suck some serious ass. The warning calls during boss battles do kind of hint toward a big attack, but it just won't matter as you progress. Either you're character has leveled up enough to be badass...or he's going to get his ass handed to him. I also agree that the game could turn you off at first glance. I'd give it a couple of towns and dungeons and then make your final call. I'm now about 50 hours in...and it's been a great distraction so far.
My recommendation: don't pay more than $20 for this game...and get over the first couple of towns to get into the meat of the game.
