A more complex game called System Shock 2 never existed years ago with far worst ****ty specs.
fixed.
You give too much credit to ten year old technology
Title: Re: 2K Boston: "Complex games like Bioshock can work on Wii"
Post by: KDR_11k on August 11, 2008, 03:48:35 AM
Was that really about technology, not markets? I don't think anyone doubts you could put Battlecruiser 3000AD on the Wii, the problem is making it sell.
Title: Re: 2K Boston: "Complex games like Bioshock can work on Wii"
Post by: mantidor on August 11, 2008, 10:09:02 AM
what I meant is that the specs are not comparable, the wii blows away whatever hardware was running system shock 2 at the time.
Title: Re: 2K Boston: "Complex games like Bioshock can work on Wii"
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 11, 2008, 11:57:35 AM
Wii is BETTER GENERATION technorogy!
Title: Re: 2K Boston: "Complex games like Bioshock can work on Wii"
Post by: Ian Sane on August 11, 2008, 12:59:21 PM
The problem isn't that you can't make a complex game like Bioshock on the Wii. The problem is if you design a game like Bioshock to make full use of Xbox 360 or PS3 hardware porting to the Wii isn't possible without a buttload of work scaling it down.
The article though talks about the Wii audience as if EVERYONE who owns a Wii is some inexperienced non-gamer. The 2K Boston guy says "It seems like, on the Wii, there's some education necessary for a large part of that demographic, in terms of, 'Here's why you should want to play this game, instead of Wii Fit.'"
This is where the whole "us vs. them" thing comes from. By focusing so much on non-gamers Nintendo has screwed us out of decent third party support because everyone thinks the whole userbase is Carnival Games buyers. So all these first party core gamer games (that are all token sequels) don't make a difference because the third parties see non-gamer JUNK selling and assume that that's the whole Wii userbase. It's no different then when Nintendo was kid-e and was doing jack sh!t to remove that image and sure enough the third party support was inferior because of it. Nintendo focusing on non-gamer stuff at E3 says "this is a non-gamer console" and it doesn't make a difference how many core games they make because the image they project pigeonholes their console.
When I read a blurb like this where the developer seems quite interested in the Wii but is still making blanket "lol casualtendo!" statements I start thinking that there can't be a console that's for both non-gamers and gamers. The two groups are too different and that's why we've got the PS3/X360 getting all the complex core gamer third party games while the Wii gets junk, despite being the market leader.
Title: Re: 2K Boston: "Complex games like Bioshock can work on Wii"
Post by: Morari on August 11, 2008, 05:46:54 PM
Plenty of "hardcore" gamers need to be educated on why they should want to play game X instead of game Y as well. They too eat up whatever **** is marketed at them, just like all of those poor bastards playing Carnival Games.
Title: Re: 2K Boston: "Complex games like Bioshock can work on Wii"
Post by: KDR_11k on August 12, 2008, 05:34:42 AM
The problem isn't that you can't make a complex game like Bioshock on the Wii. The problem is if you design a game like Bioshock to make full use of Xbox 360 or PS3 hardware porting to the Wii isn't possible without a buttload of work scaling it down.
Of course you could just make the Wii your primary platform and then port to 360/PS3...
Title: Re: 2K Boston: "Complex games like Bioshock can work on Wii"
Post by: Morari on August 12, 2008, 11:31:27 AM
Isn't that what was going on when the PS2 was the most popular yet least powerful system? Sad that it doesn't work that way, without bias, from system to system.
Title: Re: 2K Boston: "Complex games like Bioshock can work on Wii"
Post by: KDR_11k on August 12, 2008, 12:16:00 PM
Oh, it'll probably happen sooner or later, cutting costs on the HD platforms is cutting a LOT of costs and if you do it right you can probably sell to those audiences without actually making "HD" graphics.
Title: Re: 2K Boston: "Complex games like Bioshock can work on Wii"
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 12, 2008, 12:54:16 PM
Some publishers are making a version for PS3/360 and a custom version for Wii. In the perfect world each version would have a custom version to take advantage of each platform but that will never happen.
Title: Re: 2K Boston: "Complex games like Bioshock can work on Wii"
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 12, 2008, 12:57:21 PM
Ubisoft had custom teams to make GameCube games, but no advantages were to be taken of =D
