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Title: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: Nick DiMola on August 05, 2008, 09:05:33 AM
The developers are challenging themselves to faithfully recreate the 8-bit experience, including limiting number of enemies on screen and making 8-bit music.
 http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=16526

 In an interview with Mega Man 9 producer Hironobu Takeshita, it was revealed that the team behind the game has included options to enable screen flicker and slowdown to truly evoke the classic feeling of the title.    


Players looking forward to Mega Man 9 can expect a fully classic experience in this brand new game due to some self-imposed restrictions in the development of the game. The title, like the classic NES titles, won't include more than three enemies on the screen at once, and when the screen is full of enemy sprites and projectiles the classic screen flickering and slowdown will kick in if you have enable the option.    


The interview also revealed that the game has been redone visually at least once because the presentation was simply too complex for what the NES/Famicom could have done. According to Takeshita, developing the music was also a challenge because the restriction to 8-bit was not done by any sort of hardware: it was entirely self-imposed. Though the game is entirely 8-bit in presentation, it isn't being made as an NES ROM and would not be transferrable to a cartridge that would run on any sort of Famicom or NES hardware.    


Finally, Takeshita mentioned that with Mega Man 9 they are making it as if it is "the new Mega Man 3, because we wanted to surpass what we did in Mega Man 2." After putting out Mega Man 9 Capcom will be evaluating fan reaction to "give [them] an idea of where to go from here."

Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: Nick DiMola on August 05, 2008, 04:07:37 PM
Awesome. Capcom give these guys a raise.
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 05, 2008, 04:24:55 PM
Every Wii developer out there deserves a raise. They include slowdown and flicker without the need for options.
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: Ceric on August 05, 2008, 04:28:48 PM
Ever Wii developer out there deserves a raise. They include slowdown and flicker without the need for options.

lol

But in all actuality, I'm sort of dismayed to hear that they had to change the visuals because what they were doing was to much for the NES even though it was still 8 bit...
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: Enner on August 05, 2008, 04:29:36 PM
I would be laughing if Capcom makes Mega Man 10 after this and ignore any preconcieved notions about how a Mega Man 9 would be a bridge to Mega Man X.
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: Ian Sane on August 05, 2008, 04:33:26 PM
Little details like this show that these guys really care about they're working on.  You can tell they really like Mega Man and want to do the series justice.  I like that a lot.

How many people are honestly going to use this slowdown stuff?  Probably not much but they're still putting it in.  They're going that extra mile just for a small group of hardcore nuts.
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 05, 2008, 04:36:43 PM
Little details like this show that these guys really care about they're working on.  You can tell they really like Mega Man and want to do the series justice.  I like that a lot.

How many people are honestly going to use this slowdown stuff?  Probably not much but they're still putting it in.  They're going that extra mile just for a small group of hardcore nuts.

I always thought poorly optimized game engines on NES were stellar. Heck they are even going the extra mile to limit the amount of characters on screen. Capcom is SOOOO hardcore now. They gimped the graphics just for us. In fact Dead Rising for Wii is the tip of this hardcore love, they cut down the enemy count as well, and it is all for the gamer. Let's worship them now.
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: vudu on August 05, 2008, 04:42:57 PM
I hope there's a trick that allows easy boss fights by rapidly pausing the game.  ;)

Also, Takeshita shouldn't be so hard on Mega Man 3.  Personally, I like it even more than MM2 (although, it's probably because I played both MM3 and MM4 before MM2).
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on August 05, 2008, 04:56:44 PM
It's a nice touch, but I was looking forward to the prospect of playing a game that looks 8-bit but does things with the formula the NES couldn't, like sprite scaling and rotation or large groups of enemies.  I like what Capcom is doing here, but I'm still holding out hope for a game that uses an 8-bit presentation to mess with players' expectations.
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: Ian Sane on August 05, 2008, 05:18:25 PM
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I always thought poorly optimized game engines on NES were stellar. Heck they are even going the extra mile to limit the amount of characters on screen. Capcom is SOOOO hardcore now. They gimped the graphics just for us. In fact Dead Rising for Wii is the tip of this hardcore love, they cut down the enemy count as well, and it is all for the gamer. Let's worship them now.

I think there's big difference between intentionally adding optional slowdown and limiting the characters on screen to recreate an NES game feel and cutting back on things in a lazy cash-in port.
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: Halbred on August 05, 2008, 05:37:51 PM
Holy ****, I'm excited. WHEN WILL I GET TO DOWNLOAD IT?!?
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 05, 2008, 05:38:09 PM
Um...I appreciate the detail, but who would want to play a buggy game?

If Megaman 9 was a normal, standard release game people would crap on it for allowing slowdown in this day and age of high end gaming.
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: Arbok on August 05, 2008, 05:48:42 PM
I'm sorry, but I will refuse to buy this title unless they recreate the experience of blowing in the cartridge to try to get the game to work
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 05, 2008, 05:53:11 PM
Thinking further about this, if this game becomes the biggest hit of the year I will laugh my ass off...

Really, we live in an era of high end consoles, beautiful graphics, incredible 3D worlds, cinematic presentation and crap ton of features. Yet, the most anticipated game of the year is a downloadable title that looks and plays like an NES game, complete with screen flicker and slowdown.

It goes to show you that both the industry and the fans are full of it, and need a game like Megaman 9 to slap some sense into them.
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: WindyMan on August 05, 2008, 07:25:43 PM
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they are making it as if it is "the new Mega Man 3, because we wanted to surpass what we did in Mega Man 2."

Yes.

Yes.

YES.
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 05, 2008, 07:34:22 PM
Can they top Metal Man's musak?
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: KDR_11k on August 06, 2008, 02:33:52 AM
I really think truly obeying the NES restrictions is silly, do what you have to. Having 8 bit sprites is enough to fool most people.
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: Ceric on August 06, 2008, 09:48:03 AM
I'm sorry, but I will refuse to buy this title unless they recreate the experience of blowing in the cartridge to try to get the game to work
That's will be the DS version and the first use of WiiSpeak in a WiiWare game... ;)
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: EasyCure on August 06, 2008, 10:22:34 AM
Um...I appreciate the detail, but who would want to play a buggy game?

If Megaman 9 was a normal, standard release game people would crap on it for allowing slowdown in this day and age of high end gaming.

The slowdown and flicker are optional though so people can turn that off.
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: Morari on August 06, 2008, 02:03:30 PM
That's retarded. Why redesign the presentation to make it look dumbeddown? We don't need "new" 2D games that look like old crap, we need new 2D games that make use of nice, big, crisp sprites and fully animated backgrounds!
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: DAaaMan64 on August 06, 2008, 02:12:43 PM
That's retarded. Why redesign the presentation to make it look dumbeddown? We don't need "new" 2D games that look like old crap, we need new 2D games that make use of nice, big, crisp sprites and fully animated backgrounds!
Kinda like Wario Land? I agree :)
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: KDR_11k on August 06, 2008, 02:24:27 PM
That's retarded. Why redesign the presentation to make it look dumbeddown? We don't need "new" 2D games that look like old crap, we need new 2D games that make use of nice, big, crisp sprites and fully animated backgrounds!

I disagree, retro graphics are cheap and allow for risky projects though I do think emulating flicker is just stupid. Maybe if it affects the collision like in the GB version of R-Type... (the tail of the first boss couldn't touch you because it would always flicker out of existence if it was at the same height as your ship)
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: IssunZX on August 06, 2008, 04:15:13 PM
I don't have a problem with 8-bit graphics, that was never an issue for me, but I don't understand why people would want flicker and slowdown? I am (slightly) annoyed to see it when I play my favorite Virtual Console games, but I'm willing to accept them because they are emulating the hardware and that's just how it is. But why would I want to see that at all in a brand-new game?
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: KDR_11k on August 06, 2008, 04:17:13 PM
I could understand slowdown, I think Kenta Cho's games simulate it whenever a large number of bullets are in play but that seems to be more to let the player play more precisely.
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 06, 2008, 04:29:34 PM
I'm sorry, but I will refuse to buy this title unless they recreate the experience of blowing in the cartridge to try to get the game to work

Maybe they should port it to DS so they can utilize the mic for this feature.
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: King of Twitch on August 06, 2008, 09:39:36 PM
Capcom is truly an AND instead of an OR Company
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on August 08, 2008, 06:11:51 AM
There's goes the chance of me buying this as a cartridge though :[
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: KDR_11k on August 08, 2008, 08:36:59 AM
Cartridge? Come on, this needs to ship on a 5.25" floppy or a tape (or include a dummy one in the box).
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: SixthAngel on August 10, 2008, 03:29:17 AM
So years from now are they going to make a Shadow of the Collosus 2 with optional slowdown and an Xbox 360 2 with and optional red ring of death?

Maybe I am just not into old NES games enough but why be excited about including defects from the previous console as an option?
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 10, 2008, 04:14:25 AM
So years from now are they going to make a Shadow of the Collosus 2 with optional slowdown and an Xbox 360 2 with and optional red ring of death?

Maybe I am just not into old NES games enough but why be excited about including defects from the previous console as an option?

Well, as pointless as this may seem it does add a lot to the presentation, and its surprising that Capcom is going this far to include it.

I give them credit for that.
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 10, 2008, 04:27:05 AM
I'm just waiting for Capcom to announce that "Due to popular demand we are integrating slowdown and flicker permanently into the game just for the fans"
Title: Re: Mega Man 9 to Include Screen Flicker and Slowdown Options
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 12, 2008, 06:38:25 PM
I'm just waiting for Capcom to announce that "Due to popular demand we are integrating slowdown and flicker permanently into the game just for the fans"

Yes, the sh*tstorm would be hilarious to watch.