Gaming Forums => General Gaming => Topic started by: D_Average on July 19, 2008, 04:22:07 PM
Title: Console Acquisition Time?
Post by: D_Average on July 19, 2008, 04:22:07 PM
So, now that E3 is said and done, and we have seen each console's line up and price for many months to come, is anyone who is currently a single or double console owner thinking of acquiring another?
Personally, I just own a Wii and DS, and I'm really considering getting a PS3. I fully understand the online gaming component isn't fully there yet, but out of all the 360/PS3 exclusives, Little Big Planet is the killer app for me. Additionally, I recently purchased an HDTV and its just begging for some Blue Ray.
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on July 19, 2008, 04:54:40 PM
No, I'd wait till Christmas. In case Sony gets desperate or Microsoft does something. But thats me. Just depends on how bad you want it...
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Post by: bustin98 on July 19, 2008, 05:40:29 PM
Well, if you are serious about getting a PS3, get the Metal Gear 4 Pack. Even if you do not like the game, the PS3 has the 80 GB HDD and limited backwards compatibility. In the future, the 80GB model is going to lose the backwards compatibility and other features.
If you don't care about that stuff, then wait till LBP comes out. Its not like there are any killer BluRay titles out now.
Personally, the 360 has a better gaming library than the PS3. And most multi-console games are better on the 360. And the HD drive was only $50 when I got it and most places are selling hd movies at a loss. Great deals.
Title: Re: Console Acquisition Time?
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 19, 2008, 08:05:38 PM
If you had to choose between 360 and PS3 this year, I'd say go for 360...Too Human, Tales of Vesperia, Infinite Undiscovery, and Fable II all come out right after each other while PS3 is mostly just getting a bunch of sequels to games that didn't get you to buy a PS3 in the first place (Little Big Planet being the exception, but come on, it's a PSN game...A console purchase shouldn't be based off a single downloadable game...)
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 19, 2008, 08:41:09 PM
If your into disgaea, disgaea 3 comes out next month for PS3. But it really depends what types of games your into.
If you want a 360 Blockbuster has a deal of a 20GB 360 with blue dragon, 3 months of Xbox Live, a extra controller and 4 weeks of free 360 rentals for 349.99.
If your going for a PS3 - Sony is drying up on 40GB PS3s so only MGS4 PS3s are shipping to retail. I think Valkyria Chronicles (http://youtube.com/watch?v=-ipqzl1o6-w) is going to be a nice sleeper hit. SEGA's Behind doors E3 gameplay of Valkyria (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/07/18/live-demo-valkyria-chronicles-ps3-exclusive-srpg/)
Also Little Big Planet is a retail release Bill.
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Post by: Caliban on July 19, 2008, 09:08:50 PM
I have all current systems except the PSP. I would recommend the 360, but I would also recommend that you get a system that has or will have games that you are interested in.
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Post by: shammack on July 19, 2008, 09:25:59 PM
I've been trying to convince myself to buy a 360 for months, but I just can't think of enough games that I actually give half a **** about to make it worth the ridiculous cost.
Title: Re: Console Acquisition Time?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 19, 2008, 10:03:00 PM
I've been trying to convince myself to buy a 360 for months, but I just can't think of enough games that I actually give half a **** about to make it worth the ridiculous cost.
You can leave the thread in peace now.
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Post by: blackfootsteps on July 19, 2008, 10:06:28 PM
I've currently got a Wii and 360, with a PS3 on the way, courtesy of Sony. We got a new Bravia and it came with a free PS3, which is probably the only way I would have got one.
And Bill, Little Big Planet is, as far as I'm aware, a blue ray release. LBP is just about the only game I see as a must buy now that I'm (almost) a PS3 owner.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on July 19, 2008, 10:08:11 PM
Oh really? I guess they realized that for all the time and effort going into it that a PSN-only release is stupid...Will it have single-player levels now or is it still multiplayer-only? (Yes, I haven't really paid much attention to it this year...)
Title: Re: Console Acquisition Time?
Post by: D_Average on July 19, 2008, 10:45:47 PM
Well, if you are serious about getting a PS3, get the Metal Gear 4 Pack. Even if you do not like the game, the PS3 has the 80 GB HDD and limited backwards compatibility. In the future, the 80GB model is going to lose the backwards compatibility and other features.
This is a great tip, I actually did not know the MGS pack had any sort of backwards compatibility!
Title: Re: Console Acquisition Time?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 19, 2008, 11:22:40 PM
Oh really? I guess they realized that for all the time and effort going into it that a PSN-only release is stupid...Will it have single-player levels now or is it still multiplayer-only? (Yes, I haven't really paid much attention to it this year...)
LBP has a single player adventure and a co-op adventure, co-op is local or online.
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Post by: Maverick on July 19, 2008, 11:25:00 PM
Its not like there are any killer BluRay titles out now.
What?
Title: Re: Console Acquisition Time?
Post by: NWR_Lindy on July 19, 2008, 11:41:24 PM
PS3 online is now really similar to 360. As of firmware 2.41, you can bring up the Cross Media Bar in-game, and there are also trophies just like Xbox Live Achievements. There are smaller things that the PS3 lacks (e.g. you can't leave voicemail for people on your friends list), but going forward they're going to be very similar. All of the best games have already been patched for rumble, and all games going forward will have achievements.
However, Xbox Live is the slickest thing out there. It's perfect integrated into every game and has an amazing feature set. I don't have anything bad to say about it, and it'll only get better when they revamp it in the fall.
Downloadable games (meaning non-retail) from each service are pretty equal, but the 360 has a cooler lineup IMHO (Ikaruga and Rez HD beat out Super Stardust HD, despite my intense love for SSHD):
In terms of downloadable video content, I think that Sony now has the slight edge here. You can rent HD/SD movies/TV shows on Xbox Live and stream them (and those with a Netflix account can stream movies from their streaming queue), but you can't purchase them (some 360's don't have a hard drive to save them to). On the PS3 you can rent HD/SD movies/TV shows, or purchase them and keep them on your hard drive. And of course, you can also rent/purchase them on Blu-Ray disc as well.
Big 360 Exclusives: Halo 3, Gears of War, Gears of War 2 (holiday), Ninja Gaiden II, Crackdown, Mass Effect, Fable 2 (holiday), Forza Motorsport 2 Big PS3 Exclusives: Metal Gear Solid 4, LittleBigPlanet (holiday), Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Motorstorm 1 & 2, Resistance 1 & 2, MLB 08 The Show, Killzone 2 (February 2009)
Games that are better on 360 than PS3 due to sloppy porting - Madden 08, Orange Box, Assassin's Creed, Skate, Lost Planet Games that are good on both: CoD4, Burnout Paradise, Rock Band, Guitar Hero, BioShock Games that are good on both, but only 360 has downloadable content: Grand Theft Auto IV, Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, Fallout 3
Others: - Virtua Fighter 5 - 360 version has online play, PS3 doesn't - Unreal Tournament III - PS3 version allows you to use user-created maps
A big factor is how many of your friends have each system, too. That's huge. There's no point in being the only one in your crew with a PS3 if all of your buddies have 360's.
My thoughts on each platform...
PS3: Super sexy hardware, made for HD home theater, the best games you've never heard of, online is right there 360: All your buddies probably have one, great game selection, excellent online service
I think at this point people buy PS3 for the home theater stuff first, game selection second. They buy the 360 for the game selection first, the home theater stuff second.
Title: Re: Console Acquisition Time?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 19, 2008, 11:55:03 PM
Don't forget that you can upgrade the PS3 Harddrive with any SATA harddrive, obviously for Xbox live while sure its good you have to pay in order to play online.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 20, 2008, 01:00:50 AM
I seem to be on the verge of buying a 360. I recently went through the list of games for it on GameStop.com and found 14 games currently out for the console that I would be interested in (surprising since I have no intention of buying any FPSs, I can't go back to dual analog after playing with Wii controls), and at the top of the list is Mass Effect, a game I've been dying to play and is the game that's really driving my interest in the console. Also, Rock Band 2 looks amazing and I don't want the gimped Wii version. Between Rock Band DLC and Live Arcade I'm going to need a ton of Xbox Live points (I really hate how stupid Microsoft is for valuing the points the way they do. $5=400 points? Ridiculously stupid.).
Title: Re: Console Acquisition Time?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 20, 2008, 01:31:11 AM
For all potential 360 buyers and are looking to buy a Live subscription, DO NOT put your credit card and have your credit card set to auto renew. Buy subscription cards you can usually find them cheaper and the 12 month cards also throw in a month for free so you get 13 months for 50 dollars.
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Post by: Adrock on July 20, 2008, 01:55:03 AM
PS3........ because you're going to want to watch The Dark Knight in HD.
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Post by: Kairon on July 20, 2008, 10:23:00 AM
Buy.com usually has them on sale periodically for $36-$38, as opposed to the $49.99 they usually are. Bear in mind that you also get an Xbox Live subscription card if you buy the Xbox Live Vision (camera) set. Subscription cards also compound their time on each other; I've bought three 13-month cards over the course of owning my 360, and my Live account is valid through some time in 2010.
If Mass Effect is appealing to you, definitely get a 360. I know a couple of guys at work that worship that game. I'm going to sit down and play it one of these days. ;-)
Rock Band 2 is going to be great, but Guitar Hero World Tour has me seriously looking in its direction.
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Post by: Ceric on July 20, 2008, 04:54:07 PM
If you want a media player that plays games get a PS3. It's excellent for that. If you want a straight up game system, get a 360.
I enjoy my PS3 but I made it a point to get a Hardware backward compatable. I own more PS2 and PSN games then PS3 but... interesting games are so slow to come out lately...
Title: Re: Console Acquisition Time?
Post by: NWR_Lindy on July 20, 2008, 07:30:13 PM
My PS3 library is: Warhawk, MGS4, Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, MLB 08: The Show, Unreal Tournament III, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Motorstorm, Resistance, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Folklore, Eye of Judgement, Ratchet & Clank, and Devil May Cry 4. These are all great games, but if none of these float your boat, you're pretty much SOL because these are best exclusive games on the system.
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Post by: Morari on July 21, 2008, 01:16:56 PM
A few of those aren't even exclusives. Certainly, Unreal Tournament III would be best played on your PC anyway... y'know, with a mouse and keyboard.
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Post by: Nick DiMola on July 21, 2008, 01:24:25 PM
My PS3 library is: Warhawk, MGS4, Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, MLB 08: The Show, Unreal Tournament III, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Motorstorm, Resistance, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Folklore, Eye of Judgement, Ratchet & Clank, and Devil May Cry 4. These are all great games, but if none of these float your boat, you're pretty much SOL because these are best exclusive games on the system.
No mention of Heavenly Sword is INSTA FAILURE!
Title: Re: Console Acquisition Time?
Post by: NWR_Lindy on July 21, 2008, 03:01:36 PM
The demo for Heavenly Sword sucked, and made me not purchase. Is it a good representation of the game?
Actually I really disliked the game after the demo but rented it and LOVED it.
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Post by: Maverick on July 21, 2008, 04:23:58 PM
What made you like it? Sorry to derail the thread but I was always interested in the game for the graphics and the story stuff I heard about but playing the demo, it made it seem like all you did was run from one enclosed "arena" to the other and fight big hordes of enemies over and over again, then move to the the next "arena". Plus no jump button really turned me off.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 21, 2008, 06:10:03 PM
Also, Rock Band 2 looks amazing and I don't want the gimped Wii version.
Don't get Rock Band 2. Get Guitar Hero World Tour.
I fully intended to do that, until I saw the track list for Rock Band 2. I may still buy World Tour, but on the 360 because I don't want two sets of instruments.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 21, 2008, 07:48:11 PM
What made you like it? Sorry to derail the thread but I was always interested in the game for the graphics and the story stuff I heard about but playing the demo, it made it seem like all you did was run from one enclosed "arena" to the other and fight big hordes of enemies over and over again, then move to the the next "arena". Plus no jump button really turned me off.
You know I am not sure what changed, I barely remember the demo but I know I hated it. The final game is much more fleshed out and diverse, the fighting never gets super repetitive and actually gets kind of engaging as you learn new moves.
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Post by: Maverick on July 21, 2008, 08:03:19 PM
Is the combat fairly intuitive like God Of War where your new moves grow off from your old ones? Or is it a combo memorization thing? 'Cause I really suck at those.
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Post by: Nick DiMola on July 21, 2008, 09:09:41 PM
Is the combat fairly intuitive like God Of War where your new moves grow off from your old ones? Or is it a combo memorization thing? 'Cause I really suck at those.
Yeah, I'd say it is, but it all feels so ... canned. I didn't get the appeal of the game, but my wife absolutely loves the series and has played all 3 to 100% completion.
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Post by: Maverick on July 21, 2008, 09:57:33 PM
I thought there was only one Heavenly Sword. Or were you referring to God Of War?
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Post by: Nick DiMola on July 21, 2008, 11:34:40 PM
Awesome! All just because I tell it how it is, huh?
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Post by: D_Average on August 05, 2008, 07:07:04 PM
Well, after thinking it over, I think I'm going to get a PS3. Though you can easily argue the 360 is a better system for "gamers", I rarely have more than 30 mins to throw into a game. At the end of the day, I just need to get my fix w/ some racing games, a few fighters, and some unique adventure/platformers. On top of that, I'll finally be able to watch movies in 1080p.
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Post by: D_Average on August 23, 2008, 06:14:11 PM
Still deciding whether to pick up a used 60 gig next month or the new 80, but if I go new, I may go with this deal straight from Sony. After buying the system, you'll get a $150 credit to purchase additional games or whatever you're into.
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Post by: Sarail on August 24, 2008, 02:07:31 AM
Hey D,
I picked up the 80 GB MGS4 bundle, and I'm loving it. It is nice having a blu-ray player and multimedia center built into one device, and hey, now I'll get to play LittleBigPlanet and Final Fantasy XIII, too.
I also picked up Soul Calibur IV -- great game. More of the same, yeah.. but the game mechanics in that series were never broken to begin with. :)
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Post by: KDR_11k on August 24, 2008, 02:54:38 AM
I'm looking more at a 360... Is the HDD very necessary?
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Post by: ShyGuy on August 24, 2008, 07:28:47 AM
The HDD is very necessary.
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Post by: Caliban on August 24, 2008, 08:08:58 PM
I'm looking more at a 360... Is the HDD very necessary?
It can be. It depends, if you just want are games from XBLA, and you also want to try out some demos too. With the upcoming fall update we can install games on the HDD. It all depends on what you want to use the 360 for.
I remember you posting that from a list of 360 games there were very few that you would actually get them if you had a 360. If I were you I would either wait until they drop the price, or just don't get it. I've noticed that you play alot of PC games. I bought a 360 because I want to play games that are also availble on PC, but I don't want to deal with the fact that maybe I need a better graphics card, and I also want to enjoy playing these games on a big screen. I come back with my prior statement, it all depends on what you want to use the 360 for.
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Post by: D_Average on August 24, 2008, 11:23:04 PM
I picked up the 80 GB MGS4 bundle, and I'm loving it. It is nice having a blu-ray player and multimedia center built into one device, and hey, now I'll get to play LittleBigPlanet and Final Fantasy XIII, too.
I also picked up Soul Calibur IV -- great game. More of the same, yeah.. but the game mechanics in that series were never broken to begin with. :)
I picked up the 80 GB MGS4 bundle, and I'm loving it. It is nice having a blu-ray player and multimedia center built into one device, and hey, now I'll get to play LittleBigPlanet and Final Fantasy XIII, too.
I also picked up Soul Calibur IV -- great game. More of the same, yeah.. but the game mechanics in that series were never broken to begin with. :)
Nice, jealous am I!
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Post by: KDR_11k on August 25, 2008, 03:18:33 AM
The 360 already got a price drop here. Theoretically there's also the option of trade-ins to get the thing even cheaper but GameStop always moves the goalposts so I never have something they'd both accept AND I'm willing to part with.
Yeah, I'm still not sure about the game selection. Would be even worse since I don't like buying games at high prices and 70€ means the game has to be a GOTY candidate (or maybe even a top-10-games-ever candidate) in a genre I love to buy it without a pricedrop. On the other hand those systems do seem more willing to do price drops, both the 360 and PS3 have bargain series (platinum or whatever they are called), Nintendo STILL doesn't have that resulting in my tiny games collection. Maybe it's just a case of the grass always being greener on the other side...
Title: Re: Console Acquisition Time?
Post by: D_Average on August 31, 2008, 04:50:08 PM
Now that the $399 80gig is here, I'm real close to picking it up instead of a used 60gig w/ backwards compatibility. Looking at the big picture, I already have a Wii which plays a ton of gamecube games that are also on the PS2. That said, am I missing out on any must play PS2 games that aren't GTA, Grand Tourismo, or Final Fantasy?? 6 months ago Okami would have been one of those games, but that now is on the Wii of course.
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Post by: Sarail on August 31, 2008, 05:20:33 PM
Hmmm... but my 80 GB PS3 plays PSOne and PS2 games. Do some of them not play them?
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Post by: Caliban on August 31, 2008, 07:47:10 PM
Hmmm... but my 80 GB PS3 plays PSOne and PS2 games. Do some of them not play them?
I think the only difference between the 60GB and the other versions is that the 60GB has the PS2 gpu (if I'm not mistaken), and the other versions of the PS3 emulate through software.
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Post by: Nick DiMola on August 31, 2008, 10:09:01 PM
That said, am I missing out on any must play PS2 games that aren't GTA, Grand Tourismo, or Final Fantasy??
Excellent question. Here is a thread that should help you out. (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=17528.0)
Nice list, thanks!
Here's a few that immediately caught my eye...
Gitaroo-Man Psychonauts Yakuza
Anyone know if Rez HD is coming to PS3?
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Post by: D_Average on September 16, 2008, 11:10:01 AM
Just ordered the 80gig using the Sony Card taking a 100 dollars off. Anxiously awaiting its arrival....
Now that Burnout is only 30 bux I'm definitely picking that up. Any other recommendations that are now pretty cheap?
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Post by: KDR_11k on September 18, 2008, 10:29:09 AM
I'm considering a 360 again. The Arcade is down to 188€ with Forza and Pinata for free, with a HDD bought separately that comes out to little more than a Pro but includes games, the Pro is completely lacking those.
OTOH, how feasible would it be to run the system on demos for a start and only grab games later? I suppose you don't need to pay for the online to get demos?
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Post by: D_Average on September 18, 2008, 10:52:23 AM
Not sure for the 360, but I know the online network is free on PSN for demos and such...
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Post by: Bill Aurion on September 18, 2008, 11:20:58 AM
Demos are free on 360 as well...
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Post by: nickmitch on September 18, 2008, 11:45:30 AM
I'm thinking about getting a 360 Elite for myself as a Christmas gift. I'm pretty sure I'll only do it if I keep my grades up. The only problem is that FPSes make me motion sick. :( I just need something to compliment my Wii.
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on September 18, 2008, 11:56:15 AM
Your Wii is so cute nickmitch. awweee
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 18, 2008, 12:34:02 PM
I'm thinking about getting a 360 Elite for myself as a Christmas gift. I'm pretty sure I'll only do it if I keep my grades up. The only problem is that FPSes make me motion sick. :( I just need something to compliment my Wii.
The only problem is that FPSes make me motion sick. :(
I thought I was the only one! MOH 2 for the Wii especially, when the motion controls go A-Wall and the screen just spins endlessly.... (http://studiocsk.com/data/vomit.jpg)
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Post by: Caliban on September 18, 2008, 01:10:39 PM
I'm thinking about getting a 360 Elite for myself as a Christmas gift. I'm pretty sure I'll only do it if I keep my grades up. The only problem is that FPSes make me motion sick. :( I just need something to compliment my Wii.
Of all my 360 games I only own 4 games of the First Person Shooter genre: CoD4, Half-Life 2 and episodes, Team Fortress 2, and Bioshock. That leaves 24 games that are of other genres, and of all my 360 pre-orders for this year only one is definitely in First Person of which you don't even have to shoot anything if you want it like so. Look at my list of games: List (http://club.ign.com/b/list/custom?&owner=miuqaoj&mode=edit&grp1=661955&objt=1).
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Post by: KDR_11k on September 18, 2008, 01:30:40 PM
Meh, I grew up on Descent.
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Post by: KDR_11k on September 23, 2008, 08:53:53 AM
Oh hey, the 360 just dropped to 179€ for the Arcade, 239€ for the Pro. Also I heard a store clerk explain how the PS3 is sold out and a customer complain how you can't get one anywhere... I wonder what happened? Big sales boost? Finally chewed through the reserves? Sony no longer interested in Europe?
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Post by: NWR_Lindy on September 23, 2008, 12:22:57 PM
The PS3 is really popular in Europe, apparently. Moreso than Japan.
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Post by: D_Average on September 23, 2008, 04:17:37 PM
I'm thinking about getting a 360 Elite for myself as a Christmas gift. I'm pretty sure I'll only do it if I keep my grades up. The only problem is that FPSes make me motion sick. :( I just need something to compliment my Wii.
