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Title: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Spak-Spang on June 25, 2008, 12:26:07 PM
When do you think Nintendo will reveal a new portable system?
The DS has been an amazingly successful system...and it makes me wonder when Nintendo will decide to announce the next portable system.
To me it makes sense to do it sooner than later...perhaps even this year at E3 or Tokyo Game Show...note that I don't think it should be released this year, actually Next Year perhaps around Summer in Japan would be a great launch and then Christmas for the rest of the world.
This would put pressure on Sony with the PSP to come up with something else, before PSP has succeeded in really getting good market share...and Nintendo can make the new portable compatible with the original DS, and add features and graphic powers.
What would I add to the system. Instead of a D-Pad a type of Analog input device 1. Keep the button layout the same...finally add multi-touch feature for the touch screen...and perhaps add touch screen to both screens...or motion technology to the system.
I think this would be a great move, and would allow Nintendo to get a head start on the new portable market before Apple, Microsoft, or Sony could take it from them...and it sets them up to plan for a Wii 2 around 2010...which would be completely compatible with the Wii and have better graphics and such.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: DAaaMan64 on June 25, 2008, 12:33:45 PM
I still think it's a bit early, I'd be mostly worried about the ocean that is blue not following suit to the new system.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Spak-Spang on June 25, 2008, 12:39:43 PM
Which is why you have it play all the old games.
The DS will have been on the market since 2004 so basically it will be on the market for 4 years.
That seems about good time for a portable to get an upgrade, and it will play old games perfectly...and new games with new features.
If they can make it at a price of $149 then they will have a great new system.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: DAaaMan64 on June 25, 2008, 12:42:51 PM
That'd be great for $149. I'm for a new version I guess, just worried about whether it is a smart move for Nintendo. I'm not sure I'm personally done with the DS or ready for it to retire.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Ian Sane on June 25, 2008, 12:46:16 PM
I feel that the GBC and GBA both had way too short of lifespans. I want the DS to last a little longer, you know? A videogame system should last at least 5 years before getting replaced. So give it another year at least. Though a replacement could be announced at some point soon for release in 2009.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: jakeOSX on June 25, 2008, 01:31:22 PM
i certainly wouldn't mind a ds upgrade... as long as it still plays DS games. but then, i still have a DS HEVY so, maybe i just want a lite...
actually what i WANT is to be able to play VC games on my DS.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: KDR_11k on June 25, 2008, 02:02:22 PM
I don't think there's a meaningful way to replace the DS yet. The original GB lasted forever, if Nintendo doesn't see a compelling reason to replace the DS I doubt they'll do it. Sure, selling hardware makes money but the DS is still selling big and, more importantly, has a HUGE userbase that can buy more profitable games. To replace the DS means to abandon that userbase and again go for the risk that a competitor might snag them up. Sure, it's small but it's not easy to push another system to the height of the DS.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: jakeOSX on June 25, 2008, 03:21:27 PM
when nintendo was still using the 'third tier' claim for the DS, wasn't there rumors about the next gameboy being code named the evolution?
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Kairon on June 25, 2008, 04:32:49 PM
The DS still has a ways to go before it catches the PS2. Once it does that, then I'd start expecting a whole new portable system any day.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: nickmitch on June 25, 2008, 07:08:27 PM
DS sales are still a bit high for a new model, eh? I agree heavily with Kairon. Nintendo wants records. But the R&D involved in a new handheld would only amount to alienating the blue ocean. I'd give it at least 2 more years.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Spak-Spang on June 25, 2008, 09:44:55 PM
Why would it alienate blue ocean? People are used to new computers, laptops, and most importantly cell phones and I-Pods coming out all the time...and people still buy them...even the Blue Ocean crowd.
In case of the I-Pods specially the Blue Ocean crowd.
I am not saying the system needs to be out this year...but next year. Christmas for US and Summer for Japan. Tokyo Game Show would be a great unveiling.
Why would it be a good idea? Because Nintendo is on top and isn't threatened yet. But the iPhone could be a threat and the PSP is catching on as well. Why not release a model that is 100% compatible with the current DS and have new features. It would be simple and perfect.
Allow it to have a some memory to play Virtual Console games. Dual touch touchscreen technology, and some motion sensor stuff. Originally I thought double touch screen would be cool but that would be pointless. What wouldn't be pointless is to launch it with a camera add on and game. That could get people interested in it that are blue ocean crowd...or you could just add the camera technology into the console...why not, that isn't too expensive.
These are just ideas, and as I said 2009 would be a great year for an update.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 25, 2008, 11:04:40 PM
If this weren't Nintendo I'd suggest the camera be a video camera in the middle of the hinge that swivels and lets you aim forward or at you. Build into the system a progrom for video/voice chat that works even when you go into games (the voice part, at least) and release a PC/Mac version of it, or better yet, license Skype for it. Design some kind of analog control and find a way to make it coexist with the D-Pad without making either too uncomfortable. Transfer VC games between Wii and DS2, one account (MyNintendo) shared by both devices with allowances for multiple DS2s for people who share a Wii and both buy VC games. I'd hope this happens before this, but GB/GBC and maybe even GBA VC games.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Adrock on June 26, 2008, 12:32:55 AM
Nintendo won't pull the trigger until DS sales slow down to a point where launching a new color or model won't spike sales. There's reason to believe that Nintendo isn't finished with DS yet. PSP has picked up steam with some big releases, namely (or only) Crisis Core and God of War, but DS is still selling pretty steadily. I don't expect Nintendo to abandon DS for at least a couple years. Nintendo could probably ride DS into 2010 and launch a sucessor that year. The successor to the Wii will probably hit then or (more likely) 2011.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Crimm on June 26, 2008, 01:23:08 AM
DS revision in 09. It won't be mandatory for all games, it will have some games that can only be played on it. Built in new hardware functionality, but basically still a DS.
New handheld announced E3 Business and Media Summit 2010 Keynote Address. Mid July 2010. It will not use the GameBoy branding, too confining to "gamers" and will not adopt the DS moniker, but will be the same sort of thing, simply to continue with the brand equity they've built
It will be DS compatible It will be GBA compatible, not because they want it to be but because of DS peripherals that use the GBA slot. DS games will shut down extra hardware (like Wii does with GC)
It will use solid state memory. It will not have internal memory of its own, but it will feature media playback capability via SD card and adaptor. A more locked down PlayYan sans PlayYan name. Will not have built in SD card or memory because of piracy fears.
Will launch with four titles from Nintendo. Two "casual," one "hardcore," and one utility ap (probably the media player). It will be "online out of the box" but no games will support it till the second set of releases.
Release Date (US): 11/14/2010 MSRP (US): $169.99
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Kairon on June 26, 2008, 01:44:21 AM
I think that one thing we're not considering is that Nintendo will have to deliver a technology answer to piracy at some point. DS piracy is getting pretty prolific in certain markets, and I wonder whether Nintendo will find some new media technology or implementation to keep it at bay.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Adrock on June 26, 2008, 01:59:33 AM
DS revision in 09. It won't be mandatory for all games, it will have some games that can only be played on it. Built in new hardware functionality, but basically still a DS.
Can't see that happening though I guess that depends on what hardware functionality is added. Nintendo runs the risk of confusing consumers with games that can only played on a revision of existing hardware which is a big no-no in their quest to appease casual gamers. Added functionality can potentially offer exclusive content to a game, but the game itself can't be exclusive to a revision without essentially splitting the audience. Anything that does not directly affect gameplay, however, is fair (i.e. MP3 support, larger screens). In any case, Nintendo is better off holding out on new functionality that affects gameplay for their next portable.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: KDR_11k on June 26, 2008, 03:55:11 AM
Sure, going for PS2 graphics would be a leap but why not wait a little longer and go for better than PS2? The longer you wait the more powerful you can make the new system (without affecting price or battery life) so it makes sense to wait as long as possible before releasing the new system. Handhelds don't have a generation cycle like home consoles and there's no major competition to really worry about so Nintendo is pretty much free to pick a time for the next system.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Plugabugz on June 26, 2008, 09:56:58 AM
I doubt they will announce anything before 2010 - maybe (at a push) when the olympics get here if the sales remain that high.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Ian Sane on June 26, 2008, 12:46:30 PM
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In case of the I-Pods specially the Blue Ocean crowd.
There are no incompatibility with iPods though. There are no new songs that come out that requires a certain model of iPod. If it's an MP3 it works.
But with a new Nintendo portable there are games that require the new model which is very different. A new iPod is more like the DS Lite in that it's a new design but has the same games.
Though I'm of the idea the Blue Ocean crowd needs to face reality at some point and new videogame systems with new games that aren't compatible with the old system is routine and expected. I'm sure in 1983 this was a big deal but anyone who would be scared of this needs to catch up with the times.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Spak-Spang on June 26, 2008, 01:26:55 PM
Ipod Video seems to differ.
Apple released the regular IPods and then added Video, which was a new service.
I am actually surprised my post started much debate...but I am seeing that perhaps Nintendo could wait until 2010 for a new model. I figured it would be smart not to allow the approaching competition to even get a chance to get a hold in the market.
I really like the idea of new DS having a feature that makes it something worth keeping on you at all times...and a camera is a perfect function for that. I don't want to make the DS a portable media player of movies and music and such...but if it could store pictures that you can upload to your Wii (Wii 2) or even send to your computer some how that would be a nice feature. Obviously, a portable Virtual Console would be incredible move for Nintendo to make...though Nintendo would probably limit it to some degree. (I could see the same 512MB limit for DS 2 storage...though truthfully that would be fine by me, and more than enough.)
As for graphics. I do not think a portable needs to be top of the graphics chain to be successful, but it needs to be cheap, and acceptable. So by 2010 I would expect something around PS2 to better quality. Yeah, I know the PSP already does that...but it is more expensive and doesn't have the other attributes I think will need to be in the new DS.
1)Camera built in. 2)Multi-Touch Touch Screen 3)512MB-1Gig storage for virtual Console Games 4)Backwards compatibility for current DS games. 5)Motion Based Control Mechanics Built in.
I really like the Skype Idea...and Nintendo could partner to get a internet browser with Wifi connect built into the system (Not taking away from the 512MB-1Gig storage obviously...but I think the Skype service would be much better sold separately.
2010 may be a good year to launch this...or move my time frame some and launch it in Japan in November 2009 and Summer in America 2010.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Ian Sane on June 26, 2008, 01:58:52 PM
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Apple released the regular IPods and then added Video, which was a new service.
It's a new feature but the primary purpose of an iPod is to play music and though some models have video and some can hold more songs than others the same songs work on all iPods. No iPod owner who doesn't own an iPod Video is missing out on incompatible songs. A new Nintendo portable would have new games that are not playable on the DS. That's the difference. Anything else would just be a new model of the DS. The primary purpose of the DS is to play games.
The iPod Video is as different from a regular iPod as a DS with MP3 capability would be from the regular DS. The video is a secondary function that can be seen as a bonus.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 26, 2008, 04:27:27 PM
This would put pressure on Sony with the PSP to come up with something else, before PSP has succeeded in really getting good market share...and Nintendo can make the new portable compatible with the original DS, and add features and graphic powers.
I think the DS is doing a fine job of slaughtering the PSP in marketshare as it is, so there's no need to come out with a new handheld. The DS is still selling at an amazing rate, and it leads the hardware sales charts practically every month. Nintendo would be stupid to pull the plug on something which is still doing so well and has so much life left in it.
If anyone needs to come out with a new handheld, that would be Sony. Their PSP handheld is a distant second in the handheld market, and it just can't compete with the DS when it comes to things like battery life and the touchscreen thing. If Sony were smart, they would be the ones who would throw in the towel and come up with something new. Nintendo is winning and has no reason to make something new just yet.
At this rate, the DS could probably have the same lifespan as the original Gameboy.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Crimm on June 26, 2008, 09:00:17 PM
DS revision in 09. It won't be mandatory for all games, it will have some games that can only be played on it. Built in new hardware functionality, but basically still a DS.
Can't see that happening though I guess that depends on what hardware functionality is added. Nintendo runs the risk of confusing consumers with games that can only played on a revision of existing hardware which is a big no-no in their quest to appease casual gamers. Added functionality can potentially offer exclusive content to a game, but the game itself can't be exclusive to a revision without essentially splitting the audience. Anything that does not directly affect gameplay, however, is fair (i.e. MP3 support, larger screens). In any case, Nintendo is better off holding out on new functionality that affects gameplay for their next portable.
They've done this before with the GBC.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: animecyberrat on June 26, 2008, 11:01:13 PM
Even if they make a new handheld nothing at all says they would abandon the DS. I agree with Spak, now is the perfect time to get a jump on it, so that Sony would be forced to play catch up with a new PSP. Also like mentioned already, if it plays the old games, what is the difference? People will still buy it no matter what. Also DS has been out since 2004 that's already 4 years and if they do announce a new handheld this year it won't likely be out till late next year or early 2010 anyways. It is good for Nintendo because it would throw Sony off and yes they are winning in the handheld market now, and have been for some time, but with PSP gaining market share and Sony sticking around this long, it only threatens Nintendo even more by opening up market for other competitors.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Adrock on June 27, 2008, 02:08:18 AM
Gameboy was out for like 11 years before Nintendo released Color. It'd be kind of the same thing if Nintendo released GBC in 1992. And adding a color screen is different than adding hardware functionality like motion controls or something. How do you even begin to explain that to millions of casual gamers?
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 27, 2008, 03:03:57 AM
I don't think releasing something now and making Sony respond is the right way to do it. Why not just wait it out, raking in the cash, until Sony makes a new handheld on their own. Then, when it's about to come out Nintendo announces their DS follow-up that's a lot better. Do to Sony and their next handheld what Sony did to the Dreamcast.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: SixthAngel on June 27, 2008, 03:44:26 AM
They won't release anything for years and have no reason to.
The DS is still selling extremely well. The only reason Nintendo will actually replace this phenomenon is if not only the system sales drop but the software as well.
Nintendo just proved that graphics don't matter and the upgrade needs something more then improved graphical quality. The multi point touch screen makes sense but I don't see it having many practical uses beyond the original screen. It certainly isn't worth buying a new system.
You are still stuck in the old generation mind set of releasing a new console when better graphics are available. The Nintendo portables never completely followed these rules and now with the whole blue ocean strategy Nintendo showed they and customers need a new reason to upgrade.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 27, 2008, 05:10:31 AM
Also like mentioned already, if it plays the old games, what is the difference?
I'm with Ian on this one. The difference is that Nintendo would start making new games which wouldn't work on the current DS, and that would be a kick in the teeth for those who just recently purchased a DS.
Also, if Nintendo was planning on releasing a new handheld in 2010, then they need to wait until E3 of 2010 to announce it, because if they announce it now Sony will have plenty of time to start ripping off whatever features they announce for it, and consumers would also refuse to buy the DS, because they are aware something more capable is on the horizon.
IMHO, it would make much more sense for Nintendo to come out with a new hardware revision for the DS, rather than a successor. I'm sure they could find a way to make it smaller, have some built in storage capacity for VC games, rumble support, MP3 playback, et cetera... None of the games for it should be incompatible with current DS models, though.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 27, 2008, 05:21:57 AM
They won't release anything for years and have no reason to.
The DS is still selling extremely well. The only reason Nintendo will actually replace this phenomenon is if not only the system sales drop but the software as well.
Nintendo just proved that graphics don't matter and the upgrade needs something more then improved graphical quality. The multi point touch screen makes sense but I don't see it having many practical uses beyond the original screen. It certainly isn't worth buying a new system.
You are still stuck in the old generation mind set of releasing a new console when better graphics are available. The Nintendo portables never completely followed these rules and now with the whole blue ocean strategy Nintendo showed they and customers need a new reason to upgrade.
I agree 100%. In the console arena, we have seen that the graphically weaker system almost always wins (with some exceptions). But in the handheld arena, this is even more true. The Gamegear was a color system which got its ass kicked handedly by the spinach screened Gameboy, and that was the same way with the Atari Lynx and Wonderswan and everything else that popped up to challenge it. Now it's true with the DS, which is about a generation behind the PSP as far as graphics are concerned, but look how much better the DS is doing.
As you said, the main reason to upgrade hardware is for more graphics, but when it comes to a handheld system people prefer something which is simple and doesn't eat up batteries too much. I think the DS accomplishes that very well, and its selling extremely well so I don't see what Nintendo would gain by pulling the plug on something which is such a money maker for them.
Nintendo should let Sony make the first move into the next generation, because that way when the PSP2's features are frozen, then Nintendo can amaze everyone with some new kickass innovations that Sony will no longer be able to steal. Many people are saying Nintendo needs to come out with their handheld first, but that's a bad idea because Sony will rip ideas off it for their own thing. There's a very good reason why Nintendo is paranoid and secretive about their hardware, because look at what Sony did to them in the past.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: KDR_11k on June 27, 2008, 09:30:07 AM
Apple released the regular IPods and then added Video, which was a new service.
I am actually surprised my post started much debate...but I am seeing that perhaps Nintendo could wait until 2010 for a new model. I figured it would be smart not to allow the approaching competition to even get a chance to get a hold in the market.
I really like the idea of new DS having a feature that makes it something worth keeping on you at all times...and a camera is a perfect function for that. I don't want to make the DS a portable media player of movies and music and such...but if it could store pictures that you can upload to your Wii (Wii 2) or even send to your computer some how that would be a nice feature. Obviously, a portable Virtual Console would be incredible move for Nintendo to make...though Nintendo would probably limit it to some degree. (I could see the same 512MB limit for DS 2 storage...though truthfully that would be fine by me, and more than enough.)
As for graphics. I do not think a portable needs to be top of the graphics chain to be successful, but it needs to be cheap, and acceptable. So by 2010 I would expect something around PS2 to better quality. Yeah, I know the PSP already does that...but it is more expensive and doesn't have the other attributes I think will need to be in the new DS.
1)Camera built in. 2)Multi-Touch Touch Screen 3)512MB-1Gig storage for virtual Console Games 4)Backwards compatibility for current DS games. 5)Motion Based Control Mechanics Built in.
I really like the Skype Idea...and Nintendo could partner to get a internet browser with Wifi connect built into the system (Not taking away from the 512MB-1Gig storage obviously...but I think the Skype service would be much better sold separately.
2010 may be a good year to launch this...or move my time frame some and launch it in Japan in November 2009 and Summer in America 2010.
Why the hell would you want Nintendo to create a cellphone?
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Spak-Spang on June 27, 2008, 01:16:40 PM
I don't want them to make a cell phone. The Skype idea was from someone else, and I decided it would be a good idea for an add on game, if you already had built in internet feature...or at least Wifi. Why not? It would allow another reason to carry the system on you wherever you go...but if Skype was built in...it could be designed so that Skype acts as the chat program for all games...and that could be super cool.
The Camera is for the same reason...with a nice easy interface and the ability to possibly do simple editing a DS photo application right now would be cool...imagine what it could be like on the next DS built in.
The Blue Ocean strategy works for Wii and DS, because it adds features and functions that people want to play with...or seem useful to them. The DS 2 would be on you all the time, if you realized it was a good camera and had the ability to do free calls if you like. I would rather my child have that then a cell phone.
But again these are just ideas.
Also, I am beginning to agree with you about 2010...but I do think that it is not fair to compare the Game Boy generation to current day. technology wasn't advancing as affordably and quickly back then. Look how long the original NES lasted compared to current generation systems.
We may actually be slowing down again soon as we are possibly reaching a plateau...for home consoles, but we aren't there yet for portable technology.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Adrock on June 27, 2008, 04:46:43 PM
I've advocated the idea of a camera for a while, but I can't see Nintendo going through with it. Think of how many more upskirt pics and vids that'd produce. Nintendo is out to pretect children all over the world. Sure, people have cell-phones, but that kind of thinking seems beyond Nintendo. If they made that much sense, we wouldn't still be complaining about Friend Codes, now would we?
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: DAaaMan64 on June 27, 2008, 04:48:13 PM
Ya some sort of GameBoy Camera is stupid, unless there was some sort of GameBoy Printer I could print pictures from Zelda games with.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: AV on June 27, 2008, 04:50:40 PM
11/22/09 NA, Europe 12/6/09 Japan
That is before Thanksgiving for USA and first Sunday of December for Japan.
It will have same tilt technology used in the nunchuck It will have built in rumble It will have almost GAMECUBE level graphics Use 2.5 gig size cards for games 1 gig internal storage All the channels Wii has plus some more Online ready pictochat 1 USB 2.0 slot
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 27, 2008, 06:07:49 PM
What if Nintendo just made a portable Wii? It could have teeny tiny little wii-mote thing which would allow you to motion control stuff on the tiny portable screen.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Ceric on June 27, 2008, 07:32:07 PM
I just want a much much more ergonomic DS. 3-D screen... Come on... Some Haptics... Then the horspower upgrade.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 27, 2008, 08:40:22 PM
I really don't think a new Nintendo Portable will be revealed this year, perhaps next year though.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: animecyberrat on June 27, 2008, 09:13:08 PM
Times have changed though, since GBC, look how much time passed to GBA, then DS. Now is about on schedule for them to make something new.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Kairon on June 27, 2008, 10:17:23 PM
Why would you want to waggle something you're looking at!?!?!
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Spak-Spang on June 27, 2008, 10:20:37 PM
Waggle+Screen+Nintendo=Insane Innovation -3rd parties that can't figure it out at all.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: animecyberrat on June 27, 2008, 10:58:35 PM
motion controls for a handheld, probably not, but maybe something like that tilt stuff they did a while back.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: KDR_11k on June 28, 2008, 01:39:06 AM
A camera is stupid, everyone has one on their cellphone anyway and there's no point in adding that to the system.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: nickmitch on June 28, 2008, 02:34:42 AM
Maybe we'll see how motion controls on a handheld work when the iPhone 2.0 firmware hits.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Kairon on June 28, 2008, 03:16:27 AM
What if Nintendo just made a portable Wii? It could have teeny tiny little wii-mote thing which would allow you to motion control stuff on the tiny portable screen.
i'm imagining a wiimote like IR pointer on a small stylus so it can still be touch screen. The only benefit i can see from that however is doing things on screen w/o letting your hand/stylus get in the way of the action.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 28, 2008, 04:45:56 AM
Why would you want to waggle something you're looking at!?!?!
You wouldn't waggle the portable. I was thinking they could have some little wii-mote thing which would be about the size of a laser pointer or something, and would have just 1 or 2 buttons and run on a tiny rechargable battery, and it could snap into the portable when not in use.
You really don't think something like that could be done?
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Kairon on June 28, 2008, 04:52:27 AM
That'd be interesting...and it'd have a button on top so you could hold it upside-down pen style and click it?
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 28, 2008, 08:22:07 AM
You wouldn't waggle the portable. I was thinking they could have some little wii-mote thing which would be about the size of a laser pointer or something, and would have just 1 or 2 buttons and run on a tiny rechargable battery, and it could snap into the portable when not in use.
You really don't think something like that could be done?
It can be done but it destroys the portability of the portable device. If I have to make actual motions I can no longer play the DS on the subway or the bus. We need to remember that these are meant to be played on the go and often around and right next to other people.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on June 29, 2008, 01:28:15 PM
I think this will happen, screens a little wider than the DS's, multi-point touchscreens (on both screens), better viewing angles on screens, firmware updates to combat piracy, legacy DS support, better microphone, better wireless antenna, GBA slot for GBA BC and accessory packs, connectivity to the next Nintendo home console.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Spak-Spang on June 29, 2008, 04:53:21 PM
The more I think about something happening the more I realize the earliest something would happen is Late 2009 and then only in Japan, with a 2010 release elsewhere.
I definitely believe that by 2011 we will have a New Nintendo portable. There is just so much more to add the the complete DS package...and it would be nice to get that. I still think that an analog stick is an absolute must for the DS...and Virtual Console Support for at least NES, SNES, Genesis, and Turbo Graphics 16. Basically Legacy system backwards compatibility.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Kairon on June 29, 2008, 06:02:36 PM
Yeah, I can't wait for VC to make it onto the next Nintendo Handheld. So awesome...
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on June 29, 2008, 08:32:36 PM
Yeah, I can't wait for VC to make it onto the next Nintendo Handheld. So awesome...
Better yet if Nintendo does something like Sony is doing allowing remote play. I would have no problem if I had to buy the virtual console games and transfer them to the next handheld which you basically allow both systems to play a game that you paid for once.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Spak-Spang on June 30, 2008, 10:22:29 AM
Flames: I dunno how Nintendo would do it any other way...since we already have the VC on the Wii and paid for the games.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: EasyCure on June 30, 2008, 11:32:51 AM
That'd be interesting...and it'd have a button on top so you could hold it upside-down pen style and click it?
I dunno... but wouldn't that be cool if it could also double as a stylus?
DS Stylus + Wii-mote combined = Awesome innovation for the next Nintendo handheld!
looks like my post was ignored
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Mikintosh on June 30, 2008, 01:05:11 PM
Yeah, I'd imagine this is a ways off (2011 sounds right), and I'm betting it'll be about PSP-level in graphics but still have the dual-screens to accomodate its predecessor. Including camera and music and whatever in it is a bit much (this isn't an iPhone), but if they could be done at no extra cost, then I wouldn't mind. The motion control idea, however, is ridiculous. There's a reason the Wii is only meant to be played at home: you wouldn't want to be caught on the subway flailing around like that.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Ceric on July 06, 2008, 06:21:44 PM
These seems to be the newes thread to talk about a new ds. I was trying to play my DS outside when I thought of this. With the green initiative that has swept the US if not the world it be good to play to that. Here is what I was thinking.
It seems that full color e-ink is coming to fruitation. With it even starting to be deployed on Billboards and other advertisements. Its main advantage is low power, no need for a backlight, and thrives where a normal book would thrive. There have been reports that they have full color screens that will do 70 fps.
Pretty much just a new ds with the greener screen. Wouldn't need anything else really. Since the touch portion is done with a film on the screen the background screen can change. Now in an ideal world.
I would also develop a better design to hold the DS one handed. Playing Phantom Hourglass is really hurting my hand and putting it in uncomfortable positions in places I normal play portable games.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 06, 2008, 06:48:46 PM
These seems to be the newes thread to talk about a new ds. I was trying to play my DS outside when I thought of this. With the green initiative that has swept the US if not the world it be good to play to that. Here is what I was thinking.
It seems that full color e-ink is coming to fruitation. With it even starting to be deployed on Billboards and other advertisements. Its main advantage is low power, no need for a backlight, and thrives where a normal book would thrive. There have been reports that they have full color screens that will do 70 fps.
Pretty much just a new ds with the greener screen. Wouldn't need anything else really. Since the touch portion is done with a film on the screen the background screen can change. Now in an ideal world.
I would also develop a better design to hold the DS one handed. Playing Phantom Hourglass is really hurting my hand and putting it in uncomfortable positions in places I normal play portable games.
That's a really cool idea and something I could see Nintendo doing if the cost is right.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 08, 2008, 01:01:32 AM
You know I like the idea of some how advancing the technology of graphics and that electronic ink technology to make it easier on the eyes.
If a major color advancement in that could be made...then it could be the future of the DS brand.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: KDR_11k on July 08, 2008, 03:58:45 AM
Ink doesn't need a backlight but neither does the original Gameboy...
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: DAaaMan64 on July 08, 2008, 04:00:04 AM
You know what else doesn't need a backlight? Those digital picture frames. Very tacky with the light beaming off of there.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: AV on July 19, 2008, 10:44:50 PM
with the wiimotionplus i think that will be built into the DS2 so it can be VERY precise movements with tilt, and twisting.
I also think New Super Mario Brothers 2 and Nintendogs 2 will be in launch window
both screens be touch, and have 2 spots you can touch at same time.
with sales of DS staying massive it might be hard for Nintendo to make a new one but since so many developers seem to be maxing out the system with 3d i think they will be pushed to release it sooner than later. So I stick with holiday 2009.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Ceric on July 20, 2008, 06:06:31 PM
I think that Nintendo will make a new DS mostly because they'll get tired of working around the one screens 3D deficiency but, I still think my revision idea is still most likely with the strong sales. Also making it much thinner I didn't realize how thick the DS Lite is.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 20, 2008, 07:13:17 PM
no new nintendo handheld. go home, internet.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 20, 2008, 10:07:00 PM
Why does anyone want new hardware this generation has been more expensive.
Title: Re: New Nintendo Portable...when?
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 20, 2008, 11:51:40 PM
Why does anyone want new hardware this generation has been more expensive.
Because shiny new hardware makes some feel more manly along with Gears of War II and Resistance. ;)
So lets see Wii squared - 349.99 (the new mass market price for HD stuffs) DS advantage - 249.99 Xbox 720 - 499.99 super duper version 399.99 gimped version that no one wants PS4 - 699.99 Untouchable edition 549.99 slightly more bearable edition PSP 2 - 299.99 with more RIIDDDGGGEEE RACERRRR
