Ubisoft has announced that it will launch a new Wii exclusive party-games range under the "Play Zone" label.
"With our new Play Zone party titles, the Wii gamers who like to spend time with friends and family will have fun with the Wii through innovative and involving mini-games," said Ubisoft's EMEA Marketing Director John Parkes.
"The Play Zone label will provide them with the best games to mingle and compete together in a fun and friendly atmosphere."
The first game released under the Play Zone label will be Sports Party - a collection of 9 sports mini-games that can be played head-to-head or cooperatively on three levels of difficulty. The game will be released on July 11.
And here's a preview of the first game. http://www.gaming-age.com/cgi-bin/previews/preview.pl?sys=wii&game=sports_party
Wii Remote based gameplay: Thanks to intuitive motions, instantaneously enjoy any sport!
There you have it folks. INSTANTANEOUSLY
Woah woah... first you have to make games that are EVENTUALLY enjoyable. Don't bite off more than you can chew there, ubi.
QFT.
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: Ian Sane on June 19, 2008, 07:55:19 PM
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the Wii gamers who like to spend time with friends and family
Way to categorize gamers as anti-social basement dwellers there Ubisoft. I like spending time with friends and family and always have and I'm not interested in any of this sh!t.
With this and Nintendo's infamous "only geeks and otaku need more storage space" comment it's like the old market is being stereotyped as nerds and weirdos. "We've got mainstream acceptance now. We don't need you freaks and losers anymore!"
Seriously "spend time with friends and family"? Only non-gamers and casuals do that? Come on!
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: Morari on June 19, 2008, 08:01:20 PM
Woo, croquet! I want a croquet game done right. That would almost be as awesome on the Wii as Miniature Golf.
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: King of Twitch on June 19, 2008, 08:20:48 PM
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Utter and complete garbage.
You give garbage a bad name; even trash can be recycled.
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: Mario on June 19, 2008, 10:20:08 PM
Maybe it has good controls
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: Kairon on June 19, 2008, 10:32:31 PM
Woo, croquet! I want a croquet game done right. That would almost be as awesome on the Wii as Miniature Golf.
Even Croquet is too hardcore for the average Wii gamer. What Ubisoft really needs to come out with is a Crochet game, where you use your Wii remote and nunchuk to turn balls of yarn into socks and hats for your Mii characters so they don't catch a cold.
The game should come bundled with a special Crochet hook shell for the Wii-mote to snap into.
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: KDR_11k on June 20, 2008, 04:23:41 AM
Woo, croquet! I want a croquet game done right. That would almost be as awesome on the Wii as Miniature Golf.
Even Croquet is too hardcore for the average Wii gamer. What Ubisoft really needs to come out with is a Crochet game, where you use your Wii remote and nunchuk to turn balls of yarn into socks and hats for your Mii characters so they don't catch a cold.
The game should come bundled with a special Crochet hook shell for the Wii-mote to snap into.
But that would require actually being innovative.
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: Deguello on June 20, 2008, 12:37:53 PM
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With this and Nintendo's infamous "only geeks and otaku need more storage space" comment
What I find humorous is that this "quote" has never been confirmed and the source is Edge magazine paraphrasing That Fischer guy's words. What I find even more humorous is that nobody has actually challenged the CONTENT of said statement. As in, nobody said we all AREN'T a bunch of geeks, which isn't so bad a word when used in other contexts (like "geek chic," or that computer repair company Geek Squad. ZOMG THEY'RE LINKING COMPUTERS WITH GEEKS) They just appear overly sensitive that a truth slipped out.
And of course he apologized for them, mainly because the reaction got out of hand and Nintendo's position as market leader is so unstable that all the press and hardcore gamers across the net are looking for a stick to beat them with... some sort of "arrogance" charge to lay on them.
I also think it's interesting that you chose the word "famous" (or infamous, same deal,) instead of a more direct word like "scurrilous" or "horrible." Fame is simply linked to reputation, not actual deeds or acts.
Oh yeah UBIsoft, yeah, they have a bead on this generation alright. It's just too bad they can't get disrupted out of existence yet.
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on June 20, 2008, 12:49:02 PM
No, infamous specifically means famous for being bad. And saying something like "only geeks want that" is dismissive and derogatory even if it's true. It's the attitude that's the problem.
Regardless, I don't put much stock in the quote, real or not, because it came from NOE, and nobody's ever given me reason to believe NOE has anybody competent working there.
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 20, 2008, 12:52:34 PM
ah. ha. ha.
people taking NOE seriously
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: Deguello on June 20, 2008, 12:57:21 PM
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No, infamous specifically means famous for being bad.
They are both simply reputation values not linked to any actual deed. Like Paris Hilton. And it's only dismissive and derogatory if you link being a geek to being bad in some way. The paraphrase never laid any value judgment on "geeks" or "otaku," so any bad images of obsessive, pimply-faced, greasy fans came from those very fans. Imagine if somebody said "Only people who sleep with loose women want that," and the big stink about it reads "So they think we're a bunch of sickos who sleep with our mothers!?" Such data was added after the fact.
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: Kairon on June 20, 2008, 01:37:39 PM
What I find even more humorous is that nobody has actually challenged the CONTENT of said statement. As in, nobody said we all AREN'T a bunch of geeks, which isn't so bad a word when used in other contexts (like "geek chic," or that computer repair company Geek Squad. ZOMG THEY'RE LINKING COMPUTERS WITH GEEKS) They just appear overly sensitive that a truth slipped out.
There WAS a point where I considered claiming that hardcore gamers did somehow align with stereotype, but I wasn't quite sure how to support it in case it was seen as inflammatory.
The paraphrase never laid any value judgment on "geeks" or "otaku," so any bad images of obsessive, pimply-faced, greasy fans came from those very fans.
That's very interesting actually. The people who respond negatively to the statement are actually identifying themselves as victims, AND perpetrators, of negative stereotypes. It's horribly ironic.
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: Nick DiMola on June 20, 2008, 01:46:05 PM
I agree with Deg, though I do think that it is dismissive. Just because that crowd wants it doesn't mean that Nintendo shouldn't address the issue. One day when Nintendo falls from grace again, the "geeks and otaku" will be the ones buttering their bread. Probably shouldn't alienate your biggest fans, because when times are tough they are the ones who will pull you through.
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: Kairon on June 20, 2008, 01:50:44 PM
Geeks and Otaku don't butter Nintendo's bread. Nintendo gamers, from the age 2 to 92 do.
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 20, 2008, 02:19:38 PM
Pokemanz
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: KDR_11k on June 20, 2008, 02:23:37 PM
I agree with Deg, though I do think that it is dismissive. Just because that crowd wants it doesn't mean that Nintendo shouldn't address the issue. One day when Nintendo falls from grace again, the "geeks and otaku" will be the ones buttering their bread. Probably shouldn't alienate your biggest fans, because when times are tough they are the ones who will pull you through.
Besides, it hasn't been shown if the group he dismisses so easily is not a major part of the Wii userbase.
But seriously, the Wii's storage is something like 1.5k blocks by default, right? There's plenty of stuff to fill that with, just get those downloadable channels at 100-200 a piece, add the Wii Fit channel which is again that much and you've already filled a good part, WiiWare seems to come mostly in the almost 300 block variety and isn't as inaccessible as most of the VC games so it could easily sell some copies to casuals too. Ooops, your memory is full and you didn't even go hardcore yet!
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: Ian Sane on June 20, 2008, 02:46:10 PM
I've always seen "geek" as an acceptable term between geeks but a derogatory one when used by people who wouldn't consider themselves one. It's like a much tamer version of how black rappers use the n-word to describe themselves but are offended when someone else calls them that. Or just how my friends can call me a "stupid f*ck" and I'll laugh it up but random strangers sure as hell can't call me that.
Nintendo's comment made out that our opinion doens't matter because of what we are. Change it from "geeks" to something vastly more serious like a race or religion and the same quote would cause a political uproar. The guy apologized for it so I think he wasn't really thinking about what he was saying but still.
But gets back to crapping on Ubisoft. They're not only insulting us with their "friends and family" line but with the games themselves. Is it not an insult to expect the Wii userbase to buy this crap when they sure as hell wouldn't try this on the other consoles? ;)
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on June 20, 2008, 02:51:31 PM
No, infamous specifically means famous for being bad.
They are both simply reputation values not linked to any actual deed. Like Paris Hilton.
I hate to quote dictionaries to prove my point, but here (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=infamous): deserving of or causing an evil reputation; shamefully malign; detestable: an infamous deed.
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And it's only dismissive and derogatory if you link being a geek to being bad in some way. The paraphrase never laid any value judgment on "geeks" or "otaku," so any bad images of obsessive, pimply-faced, greasy fans came from those very fans. Imagine if somebody said "Only people who sleep with loose women want that," and the big stink about it reads "So they think we're a bunch of sickos who sleep with our mothers!?" Such data was added after the fact.
If there's anyone upset at being called a geek, I won't speak for him. I think the quote is dismissive because it says he doesn't care about our problem because we're geeks. The disparagement comes from being told we don't matter.
Edit: Wow. I agree with Ian. I guess I can give up on convincing Deg of anything now. :)
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: Kairon on June 20, 2008, 03:23:33 PM
The quote wasn't dismissing the problem because were are geeks. The quote is dismissing the problem because we're a SMALL POPULATION.
Which, still, isn't correct. Non-gamers have just as stringent needs as hardcore gamers actually, just different ones, and nothing proves this more than Nintendo putting their internal developers on Brain Training and Wii Fit instead of farming those out.
This is what Ubisoft will need to learn, and is learning, as well: The casual base does not roll over for you. You have to give them good product... on their terms though. The trick is learning about what constitutes this moving target of good. It may not be metacritic scores... but believe it or not there was something that separated Mario Paint from that Sega Genesis Art clone thingie... and there is something that separates Wii Sports from Deca Sports.
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: Luigi Dude on June 20, 2008, 03:43:05 PM
The guy apologized for it so I think he wasn't really thinking about what he was saying but still.
He's a NOE employee, of course he wasn't thinking. Anything that comes from a NOE employee shouldn't be taken seriously since they're kept so far in the dark from NCL they don't know what the hell is going on.
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: animecyberrat on June 20, 2008, 07:34:39 PM
I take offense to being called a "geek" Just because I play video games and I know something about computers doesn't make me a "geek" I always pictured geeks as smart, nerdy guys who where very good at math and such. I mostly use my computer for practical **** and business purposes, not "geek" stuff. But what do I know I'm an outcast amongst "geeks" anyways so yeah. On the other hand I don't care what Nintendo says anyways weather it be NCL, NOA or NOE, they never say anything that makes sense or isn't derogatory.
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: ShyGuy on June 20, 2008, 08:47:28 PM
I will bite the head off a chicken to stop Ubisoft.
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: animecyberrat on June 20, 2008, 09:39:03 PM
I saw we not only start an official boycott of all things Ubisoft, but we should take it a step further and ask NWR to also boycott reporting on Ubisoft as well. They don't deserve the free publicity good or bad.
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: Morari on June 21, 2008, 01:06:03 AM
I've always seen "geek" as an acceptable term between geeks but a derogatory one when used by people who wouldn't consider themselves one. It's like a much tamer version of how black rappers use the n-word to describe themselves but are offended when someone else calls them that. Or just how my friends can call me a "stupid f*ck" and I'll laugh it up but random strangers sure as hell can't call me that.
The "n-word"? Well, I guess now we all know who isn't a black rapper. Too meek to even utter the word, even. Cracker.
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 21, 2008, 01:33:06 AM
I have a feeling it would bring negative repercussions from the higher-ups.
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: KDR_11k on June 21, 2008, 02:48:44 AM
I saw we not only start an official boycott of all things Ubisoft, but we should take it a step further and ask NWR to also boycott reporting on Ubisoft as well. They don't deserve the free publicity good or bad.
Sounds stupid IMO. Aren't review sites supposed to be neutral instead of bearing grudges and letting those affect their reporting?
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 21, 2008, 04:52:20 AM
It's only a claim.
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: Plugabugz on June 21, 2008, 06:15:16 AM
So lets spin this around. What if he said ubisoft dont hve to put their top AAA teams and put years(and by extension, effort) into a title that they know will sell slowly,but over time great, because "differentiated gamers" dont have such demands like we do?
Would anyone have cared?
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: KDR_11k on June 21, 2008, 07:27:57 AM
Well, people would probably have called him wrong but that way at least it wouldn't imply that those games are all there is to the Wii.
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: animecyberrat on June 21, 2008, 01:12:42 PM
No, their job is to inform the readers what the game makers are doing and saying. True it is our job to take what info the review brings us and do what we will with it/ Nintendo World Report is biased though, they are a Nintendo site, so it makes sense that they cover all things Nintendo but they have the right to inform the readers what is going on. In this case it might be ok to just blacklist the publisher in question because they seam to constantly take jabs at the fanbase and really piss more of us off than anything.
This recent garbage isn't the only thing they have done or said recently that deserves our scrutiny.
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on June 21, 2008, 01:23:13 PM
No, their job is to inform the readers what the game makers are doing and saying. True it is our job to take what info the review brings us and do what we will with it/ Nintendo World Report is biased though, they are a Nintendo site, so it makes sense that they cover all things Nintendo but they have the right to inform the readers what is going on. In this case it might be ok to just blacklist the publisher in question because they seam to constantly take jabs at the fanbase and really piss more of us off than anything.
This recent garbage isn't the only thing they have done or said recently that deserves our scrutiny.
How is this site biased even though they are reporting Nintendo news because they CHOSE to but the majority of staffers and community members are platform agnostic.
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: animecyberrat on June 21, 2008, 01:24:57 PM
Stop turning my words around ass holes! they are a NINTENDO SITE, they are BIASED to wards NINTENDO DUH! I was not making any claims about the staff.
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: KDR_11k on June 21, 2008, 01:28:48 PM
Well, what should I think of a website that allows personal grudges to affect their reporting? Why should I not assume that the opposite also happens, i.e. that they favour companies for being "nice" and might rate their games higher out of solidarity?
Also they aren't BIASED towards Nintendo, they just report the part of the news that has to do with Nintendo.
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: animecyberrat on June 21, 2008, 01:29:45 PM
that is what I said asshole god, I didn't mean personal BIAS, ****!
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: KDR_11k on June 21, 2008, 01:42:53 PM
Then why do you use that word? Why do you use it as an argument to not report on Ubisoft stuff?
Title: Re: Ubisoft strikes again
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on June 21, 2008, 01:55:59 PM
Sega is as far above my attention as they are below it.
A subsidiary of Destineer and heres a fine example of one of their games... RIGGGGGG RACER 2!!!! (http://www.amazon.com/Bold-Games-Rig-Racer-2/dp/B00125LACO/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1214110184&sr=8-1)
