Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Chozo Ghost on June 07, 2008, 09:21:46 PM
Title: Do you still love your Gamecube?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 07, 2008, 09:21:46 PM
I've had my Wii for nearly a year now, and I got a lot of play out of it the last few months, but right now I've been catching up on a backlog of GC games that has built up over the last few years. See, I got a ton of GC games used and clearanced for peanuts and never got around to playing them all, but now I've played and beat Luigi's Mansion, and Bloodrayne for the very first time, and I'm also well into some James Bond EA game right now, and also dabbled a bit with Pikmin. ;D
Even though the Gamecube is officially dead, there are still plenty of games for it I have never played, and these games can be had for just a few dollars. Now its like every single day is christmas! Thank you Nintendo! I don't care what anyone else says, the GC is an extremely underrated system and it's library actually still kicks the ass of the PS3 and Wii at this time (I'm not sure about the 360, though).
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Post by: BeautifulShy on June 07, 2008, 10:05:20 PM
I really love the system unfortunately my system doesn't read the disks anymore so I am sad about that.
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Post by: Smoke39 on June 07, 2008, 10:14:16 PM
I don't think I ever loved my 'Cube as much as my Nintendo 64.
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on June 07, 2008, 10:20:54 PM
I guess a little less, since it is out of the limelight. I also liked the N64 better.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 07, 2008, 10:49:23 PM
I only use it cuz Action Replay works on it and I have a GB Player.
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Post by: Arbok on June 07, 2008, 11:08:49 PM
I guess a little less, since it is out of the limelight. I also liked the N64 better.
I concur... save for the gaming bliss that was Melee for me.
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Post by: Nick DiMola on June 08, 2008, 12:03:23 AM
Yeah I'd have to agree with the sentiment that something was a bit more magical about the N64, but I sure as hell love my Cube. My collection is always growing, but as of now I have 85 games for it and I loved the vast majority of them.
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Post by: bustin98 on June 08, 2008, 01:21:50 AM
I love the selection of games on the cube, but if anyone is interested in taking my copy of Dark Summit you're welcome to it.
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Post by: ShyGuy on June 08, 2008, 01:34:51 AM
You know what irritates me most about the Gamecube? Trying to find the old games for it. The shelves are littered with used Xbox and PS2 games, but I've been searching for Splinter Cell Chaos Theory and Spartan Total Warrior for what seems like forever.
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Post by: Tanookisuit on June 08, 2008, 01:45:28 AM
You know what irritates me most about the Gamecube? Trying to find the old games for it. The shelves are littered with used Xbox and PS2 games, but I've been searching for Splinter Cell Chaos Theory and Spartan Total Warrior for what seems like forever.
If you look online there are tons of options, especially if you're willing to buy used. For instance, half.com has Splinter Cell Chaos Theory for the Cube available Like New for $5.99 and brand new sealed for $13.75
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Post by: animecyberrat on June 08, 2008, 01:51:43 PM
You forgot the $8.99 Shipping. Some people just don't like to shop online also.
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Post by: Morari on June 08, 2008, 01:58:52 PM
I sold my GameCube when I initially got the Wii. That money went toward buying some new Wii games instead. Since the Wii is backwards compatible, there's really no reason to have kept the GameCube around. It was a nice system however, and I still have and play plenty of the games on my Wii.
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Post by: UncleBob on June 08, 2008, 03:48:44 PM
No, I don't. And everyone who says that they do are big, fat liars.
I used to think I still liked mine, since I still play 'em often (either one of my two), but Ian showed me the way. Ian says that the GameCube won't be remembered fondly and Ian is always right.
Don't lie to us or yourselves.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 08, 2008, 05:11:21 PM
I can't remember Ian ever saying anything positive about Nintendo. It's always complaints about something or other. So that makes me kinda wonder if he isn't really some spy for Sony or MS out to spread anti-Nintendo FUD. :P
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Post by: King of Twitch on June 08, 2008, 05:51:02 PM
MP2 still kicks my plasma (_)E
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Post by: Adrock on June 08, 2008, 06:33:53 PM
I was dumb enough to sell both my N64 and Gamecube though I eventually did re-buy them. They were great systems. I had a lot of fun with both. Gamecube may have had more variety than Nintendo 64, but Nintendo's own titles were just stronger and fresher on N64. I remember how I felt the first time I played Ocarina of Time. No game since has reached me as a gamer as much as Oot did. I still feel that the game is overrated, but it was just amazing game.
So yes, I still love my Gamecube, but I have fonder memories of my N64.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 08, 2008, 09:03:04 PM
I know you can play GC games on the Wii, but there are many reasons why it is better to play it on the GC if you can. Among the reasons why that is are these:
1) The Wii takes a little longer to get into GC games mode, whereas with thr GC you only need to turn it on. But on the Wii you actually need the Wii remote and use it to click on the disc channel first. This can be annoying, but it isn't a big issue really.
2) The GC is cheaper and easier to find in stores, so it is much less of an issue if it breaks down compared to the Wii. The fact is, the more you use something the more wear and tear it will receive, and I'd rather the wear and tear be on a $79 system which is easy to find, rather than a $249.99 system which is perpetually sold out. I'll try to save my Wii for just the Wii games.
There's probably other reasons as well, but those are my 2 main reasons for keeping my GC and still using it. Another plus is that the GB player and other GC accessories won't work on the Wii, so if you want those features you should hold onto your GC.
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Post by: Caliban on June 08, 2008, 09:29:54 PM
I use newer systems now, but I still love my GC library of which I have only 28 games.
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Post by: ATimson on June 08, 2008, 11:29:52 PM
1) The Wii takes a little longer to get into GC games mode, whereas with thr GC you only need to turn it on. But on the Wii you actually need the Wii remote and use it to click on the disc channel first. This can be annoying, but it isn't a big issue really.
Especially if you only have room in your entertainment system for one, and want a Wii anyways for newer games. :)
Another plus is that the GB player and other GC accessories won't work on the Wii, so if you want those features you should hold onto your GC.
True. But how many people still use the broadband adapter or modem on a regular basis? That just leaves the GB player, which, while a great supplement for my original GBA, has been more or less supplanted by my DS for most uses. I don't need rumble in Mario and Luigi that badly!
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Post by: UncleBob on June 08, 2008, 11:39:47 PM
There's the GameBoy Player, of course. And the Broadband Adapter (the modem adapter only works with Phantasy Star games, and that's no longer officially supported... unofficially, I'm not sure you can actually use the modem to dial into the unofficial servers, can you?).
Also, there's the Advance Game Port which won't work on the Wii (it used to, but it's been disabled since). Then, of course, the GameCube Action Replay and the GameCube Freeloader.
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Post by: Ian Sane on June 09, 2008, 01:19:32 PM
Since the Wii is backwards compatible the Cube is mostly just a GB Player now. But I do still like my Gamecube games. I found the console disappointing but am still glad I bought it. Pikmin 2 alone pretty much justifies it.
Though I don't play SSB Melee on it anymore now that I have Brawl. And my friend got Mario Kart Wii so I figure when we all get together he'll bring that over instead of us playing Double Dash. I think MK Wii has WAY better track design anyway. The Gamecube kinda got the "dud" Mario Kart.
I don't play old 3D consoles that much in general though due to the nature of videogame design. With multiplayer games typically the newest version is that one I play with friends. Single player 3D games are usually pretty long so unless I want to specifically go through them again they don't get a lot of replay. There isn't the pick up and play factor that 2D single player games have. To fair the longer 2D games like Metroid and Zelda don't get a lot of replay either. It's really just because games of that length have become more common.
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Post by: animecyberrat on June 09, 2008, 01:43:18 PM
I thought you could beat Super Metroid in under 20 minutes or something.
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Post by: Ian Sane on June 09, 2008, 03:00:12 PM
Some people can beat Super Metroid in under 20 minutes but I sure as hell can't. ;)
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Post by: EasyCure on June 09, 2008, 06:30:50 PM
cuz ians a casual gamer ;)
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Post by: BeautifulShy on June 10, 2008, 08:16:50 PM
I want proof that YOU can beat it in that time EasyCure.
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Post by: RABicle on June 11, 2008, 12:20:22 AM
Me and my Gamecube are gunna run away and get married.
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Post by: Khushrenada on June 11, 2008, 12:53:47 AM
I love my Cube so much. Second best Nintendo system ever. In fact, it's because of the Cube that I didn't pick up a Wii until last month. I've still been buying games and playing games for the Cube. In fact, I'm still on the look out for games for the Cube. Beyond Good and Evil, Ikaruga and Cubivore. I'll probably just have to get them off Ebay now. The Cube introduced me to Sonic games. I never really played the Genesis and or Dreamcast. But with pretty much all of Sonic's games re-released on the Cube I finally experienced all of that history. I went from liking Sonic games to hating Sonic games. (Thank you Sonic Heroes, Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic Riders). So, it was a pretty eventful 6 years with the Cube.
And I know there are some good games with the Wii but I really can't say I'm that enthused with the line-up so far on it. When I go to EBGames, I just see a wall of shovelware for the Wii with the Nintendo and it just looks so unappealing. But when I see the small section of used games for the Cube, yes, not every one is a hit but there is such a better selection of titles. Even the second tier and third tier titles seem more appealing than half the Wii's selection.
The games on the Cube are just so immersive to me somehow. For instance, allow me to talk about two early launch games for the Cube and why I love them.
Rogue Squadron 2
The aerial combat of Rogue Squadron. Ah, how I love this game. If only there were more like it. Especially the battle of Endor. Getting the massive waves of Ties coming and attacking you while the Capitol Ships are turning around is just such an awesome feeling. Especially when you shoot the leader of a Tie Fighter squad and cause the rest of the Ties to perform their evasive manuevers only to have them run into the Capitol Ships since they were turning around. It was just so immersive that I felt like I was trapped in this small cockpit in the vast reaches of space and that any second another ship could crash into me and that would be it for this ace pilot. I knew what it was like to be in a dogfight. I got so good at the game I could play whole missions in cockpit view whiched added even further to the illusion. Flying in battle and being able to turn and look out the side of the cockpit at my wingmates, watch my x-foils lock in and out of attack position, and Imperial Walkers that I was circling.
What a game. Best thing about Rogue Squadron 3 was having all of Rogue Squadron as a Co-Op game. My brother and I would play that and since we were both Aces in Rogue Squadron, it really felt like we were part of a team, issuing orders to one another knowing the other could take care of the objective given him.
Pikmin
I still can't believe it's rated E. That has to be the most brutal game I've ever played. A pure fight for survival. Such a simple objective. You've crash landed, get your ship fixed or you will die. Yet, it becomes so much more. When you first lead Pikmin against a Bulborb, it's a brutal fight. Pikmin swarming this giant creature, beating it all over and the great beast fighting back eating and swallowing your troops in great number. Even when it's dead, the Pikmin swarm it and and carry the carcass back to their ships where it is swallowed up and regurgitated into new Pikmin spawn.
And as you progress, the creatures grow morry terrifying and brutal like Wollywogs. Those big lumps of muscle that casually jump and crush mass Pikmin to death with no feeling. Losing a swarm of Pikmin to a foe is so devasting because you know it was your tactics that failed them. Leading the few survivors, if any, back to the onions for reinforcements is so depressing because you know you have limited time and resouces and because of your error, you've put yourself in a tighter situation and have now hurt your manpower for the future and lost many good warriors. I.E., the ones who have full flowers on their heads.
Having Pikmin fall in the water and begin to drown as you desperately try to call them back to shore to save them or get burned by flames and die is awful. Even more terrifying is when they get affected by the Puffstool and the Pikmin begin to attack Olimar. I was killed in instant the first time that happened. Perhaps the most savage display of nature is shown in the ending when you fail to collect 25 parts in 30 days. Olimar tries to take off but crashes back down and dies. The Pikmin, instead of mourning this fallen hero who guided them the past 30 days, take his corpse back to an onion where it is sucked up and he is regurgitated as just another of their spawn. It's horrifying, chilling and disturbing as the Pikmin display their animalistic instincts to keep spawning and surviving. I never trusted Pikmin after seeing that.
At the same time, there's an environmental theme worked into Pikmin. In the quest to survive, Olimar really changes the habitat of all these creatures. You break down walls, build bridges, chop down natural beauty for pellets to increase your resources. Where there was once many creatures living, you and your Pikmin have descended like a plague on the land and killed many of the creatures living there. The land is now barren after you leave it than the wonderland it was before you came. When you see the ending after collecting all 30 ship parts in 30 days, you see the Pikmin now able to fight the predators on their own. You've changed the balance of nature and altered that ecosystem. Should you have done that? One is so focused on surviving, they don't realize the damage that is being caused until they are safe.
As regular forum members know, I could go on and I'd like to. I haven't talked about F-Zero GX, Metroid Prime, SSB: Melee, Super Mario Sunshine, The Wind Waker, Chibi-Robo and others which were so great. If you're interested, I could post more of my thoughts on these games later or you could also share your thoughts on why the Cube deserves lovin'. For now, I'll leave it at that.
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on June 11, 2008, 12:13:27 PM
Even more terrifying is when they get affected by the Puffstool and the Pikmin begin to attack Olimar. I was killed in instant the first time that happened. Perhaps the most savage display of nature is shown in the ending when you fail to collect 25 parts in 30 days. Olimar tries to take off but crashes back down and dies. The Pikmin, instead of mourning this fallen hero who guided them the past 30 days, take his corpse back to an onion where it is sucked up and he is regurgitated as just another of their spawn. It's horrifying, chilling and disturbing as the Pikmin display their animalistic instincts to keep spawning and surviving. I never trusted Pikmin after seeing that
Is that stuff true? I never saw either of those things happen. That's hardcore right there.
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Post by: Khushrenada on June 11, 2008, 12:35:37 PM
It's all true. I may have spiced up the events with my prose but all of that is there in the game.
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Post by: EasyCure on June 11, 2008, 03:22:07 PM
I want proof that YOU can beat it in that time EasyCure.
i could easily fake that proof. Hell to be honest i havent even finished Super Metroid yet (never owned it on SNES and one of our nice forum members sent it as a wiigift when we had our secret santa) but i haven't been able to put alot of time into it with all my newer wii games sitting around begging to be played.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 11, 2008, 03:27:33 PM
Sorry, but Cube doesn't have Mario Kart Wii.
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Post by: Ian Sane on June 11, 2008, 04:42:37 PM
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Sorry, but Cube doesn't have Mario Kart Wii.
I'll partially agree with this. The Cube's Mario Kart is probably the worst one. The track design just outright sucks until you get to the top cup. In Mario Kart Wii the tracks in the first cup grab my interest. Double Dash really turned me off the series but after playing MK Wii at my friend's house I may be won back. Though they still have to ditch the cheating AI and bullsh!t item distribution that rewards suckiness and punishes talent with nothing but banana peels.
But as a counterargument...
Sorry, but the Wii doesn't have Pikmin.
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Post by: animecyberrat on June 11, 2008, 04:44:09 PM
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Sorry, but the Wii doesn't have Pikmin Yet.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 11, 2008, 05:16:21 PM
Pikmin was an obscure niche title lucky to get over 200K sales. The world didn't care about it just as the world didn't care about purple lunchboxes.
GameCube was probably remarkable as a mildy successful "2nd console" having "Smash Brothers", that otherwise nobody played.
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Post by: Morari on June 11, 2008, 09:04:51 PM
Double Dash had far better mechanics. Character specific items and vehicles, obvious strategic advantages in having two characters, real slide boosts, etc. Mario Kart Wii is acceptable, especially since the track design is generally very good, yet I can't help but feel that it's pathetically bland in terms of its actual mechanics.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 11, 2008, 09:23:02 PM
The mechanics are in the Wheel.
Best feeling Mario Kart to date.
Best Mario Kart to date.
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on June 11, 2008, 11:11:39 PM
I'm tempted to agree with Pro here. The only thing that makes me hesitant is stupid battle mode. Most satisfying and best feeling Mario Kart to date? fur sur
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 12, 2008, 01:24:04 AM
Grand Prix is the real battle.
It's time you upstreamed, non-gamer.
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on June 12, 2008, 02:21:00 AM
Oh efff that, I played the piss outa Grand Prix, I love GP...... errrrr.... Grand Prix
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Post by: Ian Sane on June 12, 2008, 01:03:47 PM
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Pikmin was an obscure niche title lucky to get over 200K sales. The world didn't care about it just as the world didn't care about purple lunchboxes.
So?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 12, 2008, 01:09:40 PM
Pikmin will be revamped for non-gamers, and you will remain living in the past.
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Post by: Urkel on June 12, 2008, 03:32:01 PM
All the Yahoo Serious Hardcore game reviewers agree that Mario Kart Wii has been "casualized".
Therefore, anyone that likes Mario Kart Wii is a casual gamer.
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Post by: IceCold on July 17, 2008, 01:39:01 AM
I love my GameCube more than ever in retrospect. It was an incredible system, and I have no idea why there was so much whining about it. To me the best games are split into three tiers with three games each.. and these games are some of the most amazing ones I've experienced.
F-Zero GX Super Smash Bros: Melee Pikmin 2
Eternal Darkness Donkey Kong Jungle Beat Super Mario Sunshine
Metroid Prime Wind Waker Resident Evil 4
To some people, the third tier is the best, but it's not even close for me. Regardless, to have such depth is a testament to how great the Cube was.
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Post by: Stogi on July 17, 2008, 04:07:14 AM
You forgot BG&E, Viewtiful Joe, Super Monkey Ball 2, and Paper Mario!
