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Title: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 06, 2008, 09:42:14 AM
~ Publisher/Developer: Natsume ~ Is set up to improve upon the DS games ~ The main character, a young man named Laguna, wanders the land in search of a missing girl ~ The game takes place on the island of Tranrupia, an uncivilized land which Laguna is challenged to pioneer and cultivate ~ In addition, a gigantic floating island resembling a whale mysteriously emerged from the sky. ~ As the land is further pioneered, a village starts to develop around the farms, and shops start to appear ~ The game is set for a 2008 release (in Japan)
Looks gorgeous...I always meant to get the DS version (and probably will soon now), but with the lack of Wii RPGs, this is going to be a must-have...
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Post by: Ceric on June 06, 2008, 09:57:34 AM
I enjoyed Rune Factory to a point. It sort of fell into the same trap as the later Monster Rancher games fell into it takes to log to get to different branches of the game. (In this case the Wooing.)
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Sessha on June 06, 2008, 10:05:14 AM
I fell into the same boat as ceric, but for a different reason I think eventually the combat just got too repetitive for me. But I willl defintely pick this up. I love Harvest Moon too much not to.
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Post by: ShyGuy on June 06, 2008, 11:06:34 AM
purdy purdy. This is the game that is one part RPG and one part Harvest Moon, right?
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: DAaaMan64 on June 06, 2008, 11:15:48 AM
Nice graphics. For me, I couldn't get into the first Rune Factory. The first dungeon was taking too long. I look more forward to the new Harvest Moon.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Kairon on June 06, 2008, 12:28:00 PM
I never bought the DS Rune Factories, but this one has got my attention. Did you "grow" a village in the DS ones? I don't think you did...
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Urkel on June 06, 2008, 03:42:06 PM
I would suggest holding off on the DS version. Neither the farming/social aspect nor the fighting aspect of the game felt fully fleshed out.
The town "events" were a joke where everybody just stood outside of their houses with one new line of dialogue.
The combat was really basic, even for a hack n' slash. The AI simply walked in a straight line towards you. It was also annoying how frequently enemy attacks inflicted status altering conditions like poison and silence.
Mind you, it's not bad. It's leaps and bounds better than A Wonderful Life, though that's not saying much. It just felt like it lacked polish. Hopefully they'll have it all fixed for the Wii version.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Morari on June 06, 2008, 04:06:24 PM
So is Run Factory just like Harvest Moon, save for the fantasy setting? Does the farming take a backseat to the dungeon crawling? Give more some comparisons people!
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on June 06, 2008, 04:20:55 PM
i wanted to pick up the original ds title as well but skipped over it when i heard the sequel was to improve upon it, then someone one these boards told me the sequen hasn't even been localized yet so i didnt play anything! now this news comes out.. and the game looks amazing...
right now its "must buy" status
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 06, 2008, 04:25:10 PM
So is Run Factory just like Harvest Moon, save for the fantasy setting? Does the farming take a backseat to the dungeon crawling? Give more some comparisons people!
I never got far enough in it to produce a fair comparison. But it feels like Harvest Moon :p
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Kairon on June 06, 2008, 04:49:23 PM
BTW, the developer for Rune Factory Frontier is Neverland Co. according to the website.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Urkel on June 06, 2008, 07:31:11 PM
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So is Run Factory just like Harvest Moon, save for the fantasy setting?
Pretty much. That was part of my disappointement with the game, since I was kinda expecting a total reboot to this stagnant franchise. There are some changes here and there, but it's basically the same aside from the addition of combat.
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Does the farming take a backseat to the dungeon crawling?
It's up to you to decide how much time you spend doing what. For me it ended up being roughly 50/50 between the two. You'll have to beat the dungeons to advance the story. Also, monsters befriended (captured?) in dungeons basically become your livestock and slaves. Cow-like monsters produce milk, chicken-like monsters produce eggs, water elementals will water the crops, etc. etc.
The music is quite good, by the way. Sounds very RPGish. I especially love the town theme.
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BTW, the developer for Rune Factory Frontier is Neverland Co. according to the website.
Yeah, they also made the obscure CIMA: The Enemy for GBA. There are definitely some similarities in gameplay. I was more willing to forgive the problems in CIMA because it was so damn original.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Morari on June 07, 2008, 08:58:28 AM
So is Run Factory just like Harvest Moon, save for the fantasy setting?
Pretty much. That was part of my disappointement with the game, since I was kinda expecting a total reboot to this stagnant franchise. There are some changes here and there, but it's basically the same aside from the addition of combat.
I like the sound of that. I haven't played much of the Harvest Moon franchise however, so I'm not burnt out on the general idea.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 08, 2008, 12:31:14 PM
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: matt oz on June 09, 2008, 10:38:12 AM
I love Rune Factory. I stopped playing for a while because I only had time to play at work on my breaks and that wasn't enough time to get through a dungeon in one sitting. I should really pick it up again.
Like Urkel said, you can divide your time however you wish. I probably spent the least amount of time farming. Once you get the watering and harvesting monsters, it's just a matter of laying seeds on the ground. I did a lot of mining and looting monsters so I could forge new weapons and armor. It's pretty easy to make your character overpowered in the dungeons, so you have to kind of set limits for yourself. I don't think I ever died in a boss battle.
As for wooing the girls, I liked the system they had in place. Some girls were really easy to woo, while others are hard to woo. There are also holidays where you can raise your love points with a girl by taking them on a date, so you can pretty much marry whoever you want after the first year.
I'm gonna skip the Wii version, because one HM game per generation seems to be my limit. They're just way too time consuming.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on June 09, 2008, 11:18:55 AM
on a more serious note: I think i'm more inclined to pick up this title over a new harvest moon. I haven't found the art style in the more recent harvest moons appealing to me, so the last HM i've played is the 64 version. The style in RF fits because of the rpg combat elements so i can actually like it over the more realistic looking HM titles. The fact that i havent plaid a RF title yet also makes me want to pick this up over HM.
If they get a (good) HM on ds, i'll take that too though. A dungeon crawler/farming game at home, and a simple farming game on the go seems like win-win to me.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Kairon on June 09, 2008, 12:03:54 PM
Yeah, ever since the N64 harvest Moon I've looked at new versions on the GC and DS and their new artsyles and features and pretty much gone "yuck."
This will be the first Harvest Moon game I buy since mortgaging my soul for it on the 64 so many years ago. Ironic how they can make a game I love so much, yet make me not want to buy new versions of it.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on June 09, 2008, 02:18:16 PM
Yeah, ever since the N64 harvest Moon I've looked at new versions on the GC and DS and their new artsyles and features and pretty much gone "yuck."
This will be the first Harvest Moon game I buy since mortgaging my soul for it on the 64 so many years ago. Ironic how they can make a game I love so much, yet make me not want to buy new versions of it.
Seriously. I remember loving the SNES version so much i pretty muched wet myself when the 64 version was announced. the "you can play beyond the "end" of the game" thing was a big deal cuz it made me sad starting over in the SNES title. I wanted to get the GBC games but something always made me NOT buy them. Then when i heard they were no PS2 i didnt care for any new versions. So much so that the first GC title, when it was announced, didnt excite me. When i finally played it i disliked it right off the bat and the art direction had something to do with that.
People rip on the game for being a farming sim saying things like "why would you want to play a game about doing chores" but part of the appeal was the art style behind it. Doing it in a cartoon like setting was cool, doing it in a more realistic setting is boring. If the GC games looked like Wind Waker i would of been all over them, but they weren't.
As i've said before, the look of Run Factory is different since it has elements other than farming and wooing, so it fits better in those aspects though i could be wrong since i havent played any of the RF games yet.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: KDR_11k on June 09, 2008, 03:06:59 PM
It's not the art style, it's a form of grind and the pavlovian reward scheme in the basics. However that alone is not enough, you need enough things to do and a decent pace of progress to keep the player motivated, as AWL shows (it's lacking progress speed IMO). Some HM games are more arcadey and IMO those are better, you get absurd abilities like watering 9 fields at once and such which make the chores manageable and change them up by adding more abilities and elements. Repetition must be broken up with progress.
It's similar to games like X where you start out with simple and repetitive trading until you become a factory owner and start building your own space stations, managing your part of the economy and using your profits to buy war fleets or whatever you feel like.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 10, 2008, 04:54:18 AM
I haven't been a big fan of a Harvest Moon since Friends of Mineral Town on the GBA, though I did really like several individual elements of the first Harvest Moon DS. I'd rather go back and play the older ones than have to learn a new one that probably won't be anywhere near as good, but this one is different enough to be interesting.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 10, 2008, 12:51:58 PM
I like how the environments are filled with STUFF.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 23, 2008, 09:08:41 PM
I'm having a blast with Rune Factory (heading towards the middle of the first Winter), so I'm really looking forward to the Wii version...A couple more screens!
I love Rune Factory. I stopped playing for a while because I only had time to play at work on my breaks and that wasn't enough time to get through a dungeon in one sitting. I should really pick it up again.
Like Urkel said, you can divide your time however you wish. I probably spent the least amount of time farming. Once you get the watering and harvesting monsters, it's just a matter of laying seeds on the ground. I did a lot of mining and looting monsters so I could forge new weapons and armor. It's pretty easy to make your character overpowered in the dungeons, so you have to kind of set limits for yourself. I don't think I ever died in a boss battle.
As for wooing the girls, I liked the system they had in place. Some girls were really easy to woo, while others are hard to woo. There are also holidays where you can raise your love points with a girl by taking them on a date, so you can pretty much marry whoever you want after the first year.
I'm gonna skip the Wii version, because one HM game per generation seems to be my limit. They're just way too time consuming.
I was so psyched when I got a harvesting monster. I set it to harvest and....
It never did. My Monsters never liked me even though I fed and groomed them every day. Thats when I realized I sunk so much repetitive time in the game for almost no return. (Mind you I mind an area for cards in Baten Kaitos for 20 hours...)
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: AV on June 24, 2008, 01:03:36 AM
I would suggest holding off on the DS version. Neither the farming/social aspect nor the fighting aspect of the game felt fully fleshed out.
The town "events" were a joke where everybody just stood outside of their houses with one new line of dialogue.
The combat was really basic, even for a hack n' slash. The AI simply walked in a straight line towards you. It was also annoying how frequently enemy attacks inflicted status altering conditions like poison and silence.
Mind you, it's not bad. It's leaps and bounds better than A Wonderful Life, though that's not saying much. It just felt like it lacked polish. Hopefully they'll have it all fixed for the Wii version.
I very much agree.
I got to the 4th or 5th cave and was addicted than hit a wall where I just got so bored with it and sold it soon after.
Natsume is terrible about polishing games they tend to do what they can at the time, and just re-release a better version a year or two later with slight patches and fixes they should of included to begin with.
The game doesn't look good, it looks like a good looking GAMECUBE game. Things could still look better its just that so many other 3rd party games have looked so horrible we tend to forget how much power the Wii can do. We should expect near RE4 quality for God Sakes this is 2008.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Kairon on June 24, 2008, 01:26:00 AM
The game doesn't look good, it looks like a good looking GAMECUBE game. Things could still look better its just that so many other 3rd party games have looked so horrible we tend to forget how much power the Wii can do. We should expect near RE4 quality for God Sakes this is 2008.
... There's some definite irony in this statement.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 24, 2008, 05:48:19 AM
I can live with high-GameCube graphics. I'd rather have better but I'd take them in a heartbeat over low-PS2.
You don't want high-GameCube, you want near RE4? So you want upper-midrange-GameCube level graphics?
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 24, 2008, 10:23:50 AM
Graphics don't make a spit of difference if you have good art design, which this game has...
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: KDR_11k on June 24, 2008, 11:28:03 AM
The best graphics on the GC used a lot of shaders, those didn't become any easier to make on the Wii.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 24, 2008, 01:20:52 PM
A bit off-topic, but Natsume has revealed that Rune Factory 2 for DS will be coming this Fall...Seems pretty likely they'll do the same for Frontier... :cool;
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Kairon on June 24, 2008, 03:52:03 PM
Graphics don't make a spit of difference if you have good art design, which this game has...
SO MUCH TRUTH.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Kenology on June 25, 2008, 08:59:03 AM
Nice artwork.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 23, 2008, 12:46:04 PM
Http://www.siliconera.com/2008/07/22/no-rune-factory-frontier-or-avalon-code-until-next-year Link says it all.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: DAaaMan64 on July 23, 2008, 12:51:37 PM
Good I say. GOOD.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 23, 2008, 01:43:59 PM
Why do I want this more than AC?
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Kairon on July 23, 2008, 01:47:46 PM
*phew*
I was wondering how in the world I'd be able to afford it this year.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 23, 2008, 08:04:58 PM
These dates aren't surprising at all, nor are they unwanted! They will lovingly fill up the usually-empty first/second quarters! (Rune Factory 2 DS comes out this Fall anyway!)
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 25, 2008, 08:17:52 AM
Apparently the A-team at Natsume Marvelous Interactive/Neverland Co. works on the Rune Factory series... =)
Fixed
Umm Bill you do know that Marvelous makes the games Natsume only publishes Harvest Moon and Rune Factory because Natsume owns the harvest moon copyrights in America. Rune Factory is made by Marvelous Interactive and Neverland Co.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 27, 2008, 07:26:15 PM
I thought Natsume owned Neverland, but I guess I'm wrong... =O
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 27, 2008, 07:56:42 PM
I thought Natsume owned Neverland, but I guess I'm wrong... =O
Neverland is it's own company it's just a smaller developer company just like grasshopper, my guess they affiliate themselves with marvelous. Marvelous publishes games in Japan and in Europe/PAL (under Rising Star), in America Marvelous' games are handled by tons of publishers such as Natsume, Atlus, Ubisoft, Xseed.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 29, 2008, 01:47:31 PM
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 13, 2008, 08:26:12 AM
Two more awesome scans! The first page reveals a new (fat) heroine named Yuuni and a bunch of other stuff we already know about, while the second page reveals the improved family aspect of the game! Looks like you can finally drag your kid around with you... =O (The girl in the bottom left is Tabitha's sister, but I don't think she's a marriage candidate...)
So, where's that pity-bump that would've shot up to EDITOR'S CHOICE REALM, ign?
I told people that the EDA logo means nothing.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: SirSniffy on March 19, 2009, 10:11:02 AM
Game Informer gave RFF a 6.5...they said the game's pace was painfully slow, slower than a normal Harvest Moon. Also the reviewer complained that there were so few scenarios which moved the story along. Also that the characters were devoid of any personality.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 19, 2009, 11:53:33 AM
The opening FMV is great. The J-pop vocal are intact. Full of blushing girls.
Graphic style and music are very pleasant.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 21, 2009, 04:02:46 PM
MOAR BLUSHING ANIMU GIRLS
>> Rune Factory: Frontier (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/wii/rff.html) * 480p Anime FMV opening, featuring "The Sweetest Time" by Takeshi Nakatsuka with vocals by Kyoko Okada Introduction
* Server might be slow on weekends
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Kairon on March 21, 2009, 05:13:29 PM
oh darn it's a weekend.
Edit: Is it bad that I love these sorts of intros? Wild Arms 1 actually caught my heart the exact same way...
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Spinnzilla on March 22, 2009, 12:58:13 AM
I bought this for my girlfriend today as kind of a "surprise present". She loves it. The game has very nice visuals and an f'n great visual style (the monsters are KEWL). Everything seemed somewhat overwhelming at first because HM:TOT menus just looked so much more simple. The dungeon element, for what I saw, was simple in terms of combat but it's a nice change of pace and in no way hinders the experience.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on March 22, 2009, 04:59:32 AM
I've been debating whether to get this game of the Rune Factory 2 on DS. The graphics look really nice. I'm leaning more towards the Wii version.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 22, 2009, 07:44:52 PM
I ordered this game and got free 2-day shipping so I should get it Wednesday. I'm a huge Harvest Moon fan but I've never played a Rune Factory game before.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Tanatoes on March 22, 2009, 11:04:13 PM
Aargh! My copy was supposed to come last Friday, but UPS screwed up. Hope to have it tomorrow though, so I'll post impressions some time on Wednesday.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 26, 2009, 02:07:19 AM
I put a few hours into it today. There's so much crap to be done (or that I'd like to do) that I try to think about all the things I can accomplish in each game day sorta like the first time I played Pikmin.
At the base, at the most routine levels, you farm. Farming leads to cash, cash leads to upgrading gear and inventory, new stuff allows for more effective adventuring, adventuring leads FARMING IN ADVENTURE AREAS.
HOLY ****, THIS GAME IS INSANE.
Then there's the cooking, smithing, monster befriending, and girl-stalking, which all supplement and enhance the "base" experience. OMG why is this game going unnoticed?
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on May 26, 2009, 04:29:25 PM
I put a few hours into it today. There's so much crap to be done (or that I'd like to do) that I try to think about all the things I can accomplish in each game day sorta like the first time I played Pikmin.
At the base, at the most routine levels, you farm. Farming leads to cash, cash leads to upgrading gear and inventory, new stuff allows for more effective adventuring, adventuring leads FARMING IN ADVENTURE AREAS.
HOLY ****, THIS GAME IS INSANE.
Then there's the cooking, smithing, monster befriending, and girl-stalking, which all supplement and enhance the "base" experience. OMG why is this game going unnoticed?
I'd love love love to pick up this game and get into the RF series BUT!
after the way you described it i'm afraid to buy the damn thing cuz i'll never be able to put the kinda time into it that this sorta game deserved. Thats right, i have game commitment issues.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 26, 2009, 05:00:48 PM
I see what you mean. You could complete a couple game days at a time (~20min each) but trying to remember what you did after avoiding the game for several days could make you feel lost, moreso than any recent Nintendo adventure. As far as I know, the game doesn't have a hint system or progress log to help remind you, unlike MP3 or Tales of Symphonia.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on May 26, 2009, 05:33:04 PM
Thats exactly it. I was playing Harvest Moon (SNES) over the weekend after being away (from it) for.. i dunno maybe 2 weeks tops, and I didn't even remember being in the first winter yet, or which girl i was wooing and had to spend the first day back getting back into the swing of things. And thats one of the easiest HM games out there! I can't imagine adding dungeon crawling and animal taming to the mix of those other daily routines.
I might just end up getting RF2 for my DS since taking it with me on the go (bathroom breaks) would make it easier to play often.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 15, 2009, 06:27:28 PM
About 13 hours in, Spring season is over, haven't gotten ANYWHERE.
Too much fun stalking Townsgirls, giving them fish and turnips.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Tanatoes on June 15, 2009, 06:40:46 PM
I just reached the Pumpkin Festival at the end of Summer. I've probably put about thirty hours in by now. Definitely NOT a game for a quick playthrough. I'm dreadfully afraid that I've missed something that won't come back around next year. I love the game but it just takes so gosh-darned much TIME! I doubt with my busy gaming schedule I will be able to fit in a second full game to learn from my mistakes.
I guess it's kind of like real life then. You only get the one try.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on June 16, 2009, 11:20:38 AM
I just reached the Pumpkin Festival at the end of Summer. I've probably put about thirty hours in by now. Definitely NOT a game for a quick playthrough. I'm dreadfully afraid that I've missed something that won't come back around next year. I love the game but it just takes so gosh-darned much TIME! I doubt with my busy gaming schedule I will be able to fit in a second full game to learn from my mistakes.
I guess it's kind of like real life then. You only get the one try.
impressions like this keep me from getting this damn game even though i want to soooo bad.
Games like these make me wish i temporarily disabled and could take time off work (or at least work from home) so i can enjoy them dammit.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on June 16, 2009, 02:06:47 PM
I played a little Ghostbusters Wii co-op over the weekend, too. I think it's a good product.
Looks like i'll be making a double purchase this week.
Pro/Daisy Tested, Pro/Daisy Approved!
(we need a logo for that)
I'm tempted to start work on that logo. I just have to find my Photo editing software disc so I can install it on my new computer.
Hey, EasyCure, you should buy me a game since you got the $$$! ;)
Yeah sure i'll just ship it out to ya when i get the time
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on July 26, 2009, 01:47:09 PM
This game is full of win. Wiisports 2 can wait.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 27, 2009, 01:24:51 AM
ahahahahahhahahah
I didn't back in town in time to pickup Wii Sporks 2 today, so for now it's back to more GIRL FACTORY FRONTIER.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on July 27, 2009, 11:58:29 AM
I'm enjoying being flirty flirty with "animu" girls more so than shooting aliens in the face in the condom unit.
Actually, I'm barely doing the flirty bit, I'm actually having fun farming in my field as well as the patches of fertile land in the ruins. I like how the game starts you off with a quick means to make money, so you can load up on seeds and make MORE money quicker. I remember the first time i played Harvest Moon, feeling like i couldn't afford too many crops until Summer came. Here, before my first harvest even came in i had multiple turnip seeds to sow.. i think by my second week i had 10+ bags of seeds! That was like, unheard of in my Harvest Moon days.
The leveling up is a nice touch too, and all the stats are fun to keep up with, and this is coming from someone not very big on stats. It was a little intimidating at first, thinking I'd have to keep track of all this stuff but its all pretty easy. You just use your tools as normal and get a nice surprise when you see "level up!" on screen, because you know you'll be using less and less of your RP as time goes on. That's another great thing, actually seeing your stamina on screen (as well as date and time) is great. Now, I've only played one other Harvest Moon game after the original 2, but improvements like this shoulda been something to come out sooo long ago. It's a bit of a shame that it took so long for Natsume to turn Harvest Moon in to what Rune Factory is. It seems like such a natural evolution and doesn't need to be its own separate series, but that's just my opinion. I suppose HM can keep the simpler gameplay and artstyle, perhaps market it as something more for a younger crowd. All i know is I'm hooked (and that's what i was afraid of :()
Hey Pro, can you tell me what the purple elephant thing is that's in my monster barn, and why it does NOTHING?
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 27, 2009, 12:06:46 PM
It will do something, in time, but I'm not there yet. (it will grow up)
The vast majority of my time was spent experimenting and interweaving the various tasks (fishing/cooking/forging/lab) and developing an optimization strategy for all the crap I collect ("I have this fish, now how do I make the most of it? When the best time to sneak in fishing time? How many do I want to catch? How many should be used for cooking? How many should I give as a gift?"), and way before that was stalking 5 different girls and figuring out their affinities. Now I'm just focused on one girl, who's at 10 happy faces and 2 hearts -- I JUST figured out how to build up her heart rating at a regular pace.
I haven't even done any fighting inside Green Ruins yet. But I'll get to that tonight.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on July 27, 2009, 12:16:50 PM
Gotcha gotcha, figured it had to be SOMETHING significant. Got its own cutscene afterall. Just wasn't sure if it was something immediate or not, since there's no interaction with it what-so-ever and no info from the townsfolk.
Man, i wish this was a WFC game..
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 27, 2009, 12:21:59 PM
Co-op stalker-peeper? Wow.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on July 27, 2009, 12:32:07 PM
Another question for the pro, which happens to be Pro!
What's with the homo-erotic vibe i get from the main character as well as the other farmer (not Kross) in the South District? He keeps blushing at me and mentioning how he has no girlfriend. Hell the first 2 days of playing, I'd go into peoples rooms to scope stuff out and noticed how (at least at first) I could only check the male characters beds.. and my guy would even contemplate sleeping in another guys bed!
My girlfriend and I had some good laughs at all those awkward moments.
Oh and for anyone who is interested in getting this game, don't let the homoeroticism scare you away. The game starts off with you acquiring a CHEAP HOE! :D
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 27, 2009, 05:22:45 PM
I know what you're talking about. Visiting him to acquire "his seeds" sends out strange signals.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on July 27, 2009, 05:25:39 PM
I know what you're talking about. Visiting him to acquire "his seeds" sends out strange signals.
exactly! Thats why i'm sticking to turnips from the grocery store :(
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 27, 2009, 05:30:15 PM
Your farm won't support turnips and spring crops forever...
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on July 27, 2009, 05:30:55 PM
Maybe they were going to add the option of a female playable character and scratched the idea, but some of the elements of it are still there.
Or they want to start adding a homosexual playable character (though I doubt it, this is a game made in Japan where saying there are such things as homosexuals is a joke in and of itself).
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 27, 2009, 05:36:41 PM
The new Idolmaster DS game features a boy dressing up like the other pop-idol skin-tight-clothed girls, for a Bill-approved degree of secksyness.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on July 27, 2009, 05:48:49 PM
Your farm won't support turnips and spring crops forever...
But the dungeons will!
edit: UPDATE!
So I played for a bit last night, and I went to the bathhouse to recoup my HP/RP after a long day of farming/battling. I happened to explore the women's side of the bathhouse and it was the first time I'd noticed a character other than the owner and the old warrior looking dude that hangs out on the other end. It was Eunice and her mother, they gave me a talking to and basically called me a naughty boy for being in the women's side (even though I wasn't IN the bath area with them.
Anyway, I go to the appropriate side to regain my energy and i was surprised by a cutscene where my character overhears a conversation between Eunice and her mother.. She asks to wash her mothers back, then compliments her on how nice her skin is. The mother says something about how she (her daughter) needs more self confidence. The camera is on my character the whole time, but i was expecting something outta Porkey's to happen, I even checked the back of the box to see the games rating just in case! It didn't happen though.. instead something happened to my character.. It looked (and sounded) like he'd been spanked, then he collapsed right there in the water! He woke up dressed and still in the bath house, and left me very confused as to what happened.
Lol?
Oh, and turnip meteors for the EFFING WIN!
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 29, 2009, 01:27:24 PM
The spank represents the character's shock from sudden AROUSAL he couldn't handle. Anime would've depicted explosive nosebleeds.
I'll use the bath at different hours for different... <3
AND ****, ANOTHER STORM FUCKED UP MY FARM LAST NIGHT. I'm moving my ag operations exclusively to dungeons now.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 29, 2009, 02:22:14 PM
I fish A LOT.
I cook A LOT.
This sexy girl really loves FISH.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on July 29, 2009, 02:35:56 PM
The spank represents the character's shock from sudden AROUSAL he couldn't handle. Anime would've depicted explosive nosebleeds.
I'll use the bath at different hours for different... <3
AND ****, ANOTHER STORM FUCKED UP MY FARM LAST NIGHT. I'm moving my ag operations exclusively to dungeons now.
Thats what i figured, it was some 'animu' thing.. like Mario RPG's face-plants. It was hilarious, i gotta see more of those cutscenes. I've only had one rainy day so far (no storms, yet) and LUCKILY it came on a day after i planeted a ton of new crops and woke up with a cold. SWEET!
I need one more tip from you Pro: What's the deal with the tree stumps? I thought I'd get to break them up with a special attack once i leveled up (the weapon it turns out, though my character had to raise levels) but my newly, and might i add "perfectly," forged axe just isn't cuttin' it (pun intended!). I've tried multiple SA's on one stump but it's as if nothings there. What gives?
She might be a lesbian Cinnamon huh? She irratates me.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 29, 2009, 02:57:09 PM
You need a better axe. Silver? I don't even have iron yet. My farm looks like a tree stump farm.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 29, 2009, 03:23:51 PM
Eunice's mom and the blacksmith lady would go well in the same sandwich. I wonder why they're off-limits.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on July 29, 2009, 06:26:28 PM
Haha mine is starting to get that way. I randomy found copper in the green ruins (it was in the box when you first enter) so that's how iforged my "copping axe" which according to the info bar is an "upgraded axe madefor farm work. Can be used to cut through tree stumps"
Says stumps, not branches, but still nothing!
Eunices mom is okay, but the black smith.. YOWZA! Besides, why would I want my irtual character to be a chubby chaser when I'm not in real life? ;)
Aww poor Eunice...
UPTDATE!
Just took a bath while Mist and Rosetta were in the other room..
"I've always thought this,but your legs look delicious, Rosetta."
LMAO game of the year 2009 :laugh;
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 29, 2009, 07:13:36 PM
=3
I don't think I even have the Copper Axe recipe, even after buying the forging book. The game won't let me make other Cheap Axes, either. It's fishy.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on July 29, 2009, 08:23:37 PM
That's weird.. how far into the game areyou? I'm only at the 16th of the 1st Spring and I've already forged the axe and upgraded my first sword.
By the way, I love how after having these impure thoughts at the girls bathing.. your characters HP and RP aren't fully replenished like normal.. lol This guy needs to leel up his FaP so he won't be so weak in the knees, if ya know what I mean!
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Tanatoes on July 30, 2009, 08:41:54 AM
To use the copper axe on stupms charge up your special attack. It will take six hits per stump to remove them. Uses up a LOT of energy.
I still can't get rid of big stones yet.. and I'm almost up to winter now.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on July 30, 2009, 10:54:57 AM
To use the copper axe on stupms charge up your special attack. It will take six hits per stump to remove them. Uses up a LOT of energy.
I still can't get rid of big stones yet.. and I'm almost up to winter now.
Thanks, i realized it'd take a few hits of a SA to get it to break, its just odd how the animation is.. it looks like the axe is striking the area past the stump, and there is no sound que to let you know if you've actually hit it or not. Even Harvest Moon SNES made a thud when you'd hit a stump!
Meanwhile, I upgraded my hammer yesterday and can break the stone slabs with just one SA. Guess there's a big difference between a copper upgrade and an iron upgrade huh? Still can't get rid of the boulders though, so I'll have to work on that asap.. they're worse than the stumps on my farmland. Guess i need to do some more dungeon crawling to stock up on the materials i need... grr!
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 31, 2009, 03:04:02 PM
Lucky son of a butch, you found Iron on your first visit, THAT'S how you were able to forge the Chopping Axe. (Are the Copper Axe and the Chopping Axe two different things? am I confused? where does the Copper Axe recipe come from?)
In any case, I have about 4 elemental swords and 2 elemental rods, and 4 monsters that i cared to befriend.
And give Eunice a chance, at least as another part of the game where you'll get to see change (it was awesome to see buildings pop out of nowhere and brand new characters show up, right?). You will make a difference.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Plugabugz on July 31, 2009, 03:05:54 PM
Pro is loving this game. It's not even here for 3 months.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on July 31, 2009, 03:34:19 PM
Pro and EasyCure are loving this game. It's not even here for 3 months.
Fixed. I'm obsessed with it...
Pro: I guess i was lucky. I must of found the ONE peice of Iron i had (when i made the Chopping axe) on Whale Island, probably in one of the many treasure boxes on the Fin. Since then I've only gotten one other peice of iron, which i used to forge the Iron Hammer (or whatever its called), and a couple of peices of scrap iron, and maybe another peice of copper. I'll have to check for you whether there is a difference between a Copper Axe and a Chopping axe, or rather if there even is a copper axe at all.
As for the recipes, I'm pretty sure i bought the first two row of books available from Selphy at the Rune Archive (northern Church District), probably before i even acquired a forge! Perhaps one or two books were given to me.. i think Ganesha the HAWT blacksmith might give you a recipe book, but i'm not positive. Next time i play i'll let you know exactly how many forging recipes i have and see if I have any you don't.
Oh and you got me beat with the magic staffs. I recieved one from the old wizard/scientist, Fish-girls grandpa, and its a fire rod i believe.. but i haven't used it much, yet. I guess i should level it up soon though, I think i'm only at lv5 with it, compared to my sword which is like 15. I reeeally need to get some more iron though, i want to forge a better watering can and hoe so i can get some more dungeon farming done.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 03, 2009, 02:01:58 AM
I bought this game when it came out but haven't tried it, this constant updating is getting me in the mood for some Harvest Moon. I don't know why, it goes completely against what it should be, but I have this feeling that I'm going to be spending more time playing games once I get to college, possibly related to how very little time I'm spending on them right now.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on August 03, 2009, 04:12:33 AM
I don't know why, it goes completely against what it should be, but I have this feeling that I'm going to be spending more time playing games once I get to college, possibly related to how very little time I'm spending on them right now.
It's true. I learned how to play and get rather good at Halo in the dorms. Dorm LANs are great for StarCraft as well. Plus DDR and Karaoke Revolution always drew the ladies to the dorms. ;D
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 03, 2009, 05:26:30 AM
It really is mostly that I played games with friends for 18 straight hours on Thursday and Friday and had so much fun that I decided I need to play more games and I'll do it any way possible.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 03, 2009, 01:47:37 PM
I'm itching to play more, still farming the first dungeon to completion (aside from stumps that interfere with sowing placement).
I typically return to the game every other day, as it takes away considerable time from my video conversion/publishing activities. Sigh.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on August 03, 2009, 02:25:54 PM
So i got to play the game yesterday after several hours of other gaming (punch-out Wii, conduit) and i continue to love this game.
I checked for ya, Pro, and I only have the one recipe book for my forge and its definately the one i got at the Archives. Besides the one farming book you start off with, and a craft book, everything else is cooking. I dont know why you can't make the Chopping Axe (aka iron axe). I need to purchase a larger forge area though, perhaps then i can put some of those 3-ingredient recipes to use and get some SERIOUS weapons made ;) As of right now, i got a **** load of iron/copper (some of up to level). I thought i'd have upgrade my hammer but nope! Those giant boulders in the dungeons can be broken with it and they contain tons of iron, copper and scrap iron. After a few (in-game) hours of dungeon crawling i actually filled up my inventory with the stuff!
I made sooo many weapons..
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 03, 2009, 03:04:56 PM
Well, you see, I don't have IRON yet.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on August 03, 2009, 04:29:46 PM
Keep searchin' Whale Island i suppose. Since I never tried it with the original "Cheap" Hammer, perhaps you should and just give those large round and grey boulders a whack next time you're in a dungeon. If the plain ol' cheap hammer can break thru them than damn will my face be red.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 03, 2009, 04:34:25 PM
I "wasted" my time clearing up Whale Island all the way to the locked door, thinking it was the place was the first dungeon, and never picked up Iron. I got tons of regeneration/food supplies tho.
By description, Cheap Hammer only works on pebblies at most.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on August 03, 2009, 06:12:34 PM
I "wasted" my time clearing up Whale Island all the way to the locked door, thinking it was the place was the first dungeon, and never picked up Iron. I got tons of regeneration/food supplies tho.
By description, Cheap Hammer only works on pebblies at most.
Then perhaps I did get it in the Green Ruins randomly at a box, unless i somehow accidentally whacked one of those boulders with another weapon that broke it open. I doubt thats the case, since those boulders are always in groups (of 2 minimum), and thus i wouldve had more than just one piece of iron. Speaking of dungeons though.. i gotta find this first boss soon. I was hoping to get it outta the way before Summer, and I think i'm on my 25th day of Spring! Have you fought the first boss Pro?
I still wish there was some small on-line component to this game, even if it was just trading items so i could give you some of the iron you seek.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 03, 2009, 06:16:17 PM
LOL no, not there yet. 20th day of Summer or so, and several girlies are receptive to my bold advances.
If I'm lucky, I'll encounter the boss tonight or tomorrow.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on August 03, 2009, 06:17:59 PM
LOL no, not there yet. 20th day of Summer or so, and several girlies are receptive to my bold advances.
If I'm lucky, I'll encounter the boss tonight or tomorrow.
The boss is one of the lady's fathers and he wields a shotgun, right ;)
Probably not but that'd be pretty epic ;) Should i use my fire rod on him and turn his shotgun into ashes, or my wind rod and catch his buckshots in a tornado to blow them back at him with lethal force? Decisions decisions..
As far as ladies go, i only have 2 or 3 with Love Points for me. Mist has 2, then another girl or two have 1 each (i think its Mist' rival, the chick that pics up your goods.. i mean crops ;) and Cinnamon who likes FISH..yuck). Then maybe one or two girls are in the friend zone. The rest are indifferent.. I'm too busy being an eligible adventuring bachelor to flirt with ALL the girls. I just stick to whoever is closest.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 03, 2009, 07:11:18 PM
I ended up getting Mist to 5 hearts early in the game cuz I didn't know any better, then I realized I'm wasting crops on her.
Diana got to about 3 since I kept giving her turnips, and Mist didn't like that (so funny), which kept Mist's number under control.
Selphy's around 2 cuz of all the damn books I bought.
Melody's nearing 4 cuz I use the bath often. She's probably peeping.
Cinnamon's a whopping 10 happy faces and 3 hearts, and I totally figured out my fishing routine. I fish, I make sushi to have massive RP reserves, and I'll give her the weak lvl.1 fish, and she'll eventually give up THE CLAM.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on August 03, 2009, 07:32:52 PM
I ended up getting Mist to 5 hearts early in the game cuz I didn't know any better, then I realized I'm wasting crops on her.
Diana got to about 3 since I kept giving her turnips, and Mist didn't like that (so funny), which kept Mist's number under control.
Selphy's around 2 cuz of all the damn books I bought.
Melody's nearing 4 cuz I use the bath often. She's probably peeping.
Cinnamon's a whopping 10 happy faces and 3 hearts, and I totally figured out my fishing routine. I fish, I make sushi to have massive RP reserves, and I'll give her the weak lvl.1 fish, and she'll eventually give up THE CLAM.
I give her one turnip ever other harvest, the rest of the time i just make sure to talk to her as often as possible and till my feilds whenever i clear up some of the stumps. Appearantly she you get bonus LP when you till a certain amount of your feild.. guess she likes to watch how you put your cheap hoe's to work (she must be submissive) ;)
I dont even know who diana is.. guess she hasn't moved to town yet?
Selphy is easy to get LP with because not only do you get some off her (hehe..) for buying the books, but even READING the books. Whenever you go read a new shelf, she swoons that you're reading a new book.
Melody has 1 happy face but until recently had no love for me, until i realized i can use all those damn colored grass for something other than potion making. She'll have 1 heart for me soon, and it'll be easy to get her points up because i obviously bathe every day and can afford to give her some grass each visit. Oh and must totally be peeping.
Cinnamon is definately in the friend zone with 1 happy face, but she's closing to getting 1 heart too. Gotta make sure to get her a fish on her birthday! She's one of the few girls i make sure to talk to on a daily basis, because she tells you about the constellations. If you see one, and tell her about it she likes you more. Seeing one and figuring out who its associated with leads to even more LP for the other girls, so Cinnamon is basically the way to EVERY girls heart in the game. Mighty important role for someone who lacks social skills.
Laura/Lara (whatever th Nun/Nurse's name is) will probably hate me cuz i've blacked out a few times since she's gotten there. I dont think i should even bother with her.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 03, 2009, 07:44:07 PM
My bad, I meant Rosetta not Diana.
I've run out of constellations to see for both seasons, and various magick gems are rare to pickup, leading me to unlock the power of FISH.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on August 03, 2009, 07:53:25 PM
I've run out of constellations to see for both seasons, and various magick gems are rare to pickup, leading me to unlock the power of FISH.
Haha oh her. Yeah i love how she reacts when i ship turnips as Mist is watching.. what a bitch! I always make sure to keep one turnip handy to give to Mist after Rosetta takes the rest of my shipment. I think she has 1 heart for me and 1 smiley. Still haven't decided on who to pursue and make my bride when the time comes. I know there's still some other women coming in to town, according to the manual, so I'll see what they're like.
If i had to choose from any of the available girls now, i'd have to base my judgement on those cutscenes at the bath-house and my top three would be:
Selphy Mist Rosetta.
Selphy cuz she thinks massaging them will make them smaller ;)
Mist cuz she isn't afraid to eye another lady (which means I won't have to rely on a pet goblin to fulfill my characters desire for a threesome).
Rosetta cuz her legs are "long smooth and delicious", though Mist got the bonus points there for being sassy and quick witted. :P
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on August 04, 2009, 11:09:16 AM
SOooo i got a "Cool Forge" house extension from my buddy Kross, as well as a new forge from Luto. Now I can forge using 4-ingredient recipes, score! I was all excited to start building a ton of new **** when i realized i dont have silver yet, and thats a key ingredient in a lot of the better weapons/tools :( I was still able to make some neat stuff though! Made myself a water wand, have about 3 different hammers now and two axe! sweeet.
One thing I don't get is how there are multiple recipes for the same tool. For instance, you can make a Cheap Axe with a required forging skill lvl of 5, but then its listed again @ a higher req. skill lvl of like 15. The second one also uses an extra ingredient (usually 2 pieces of iron) but I didn't really see a difference when i forged them for the hell of it. It wasn't a higher level than the other axes i'd made. Weird.
Still working on finding the first dungeon boss.. Summer approaches!
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: noname2200 on August 04, 2009, 11:26:04 AM
One thing I don't get is how there are multiple recipes for the same tool. For instance, you can make a Cheap Axe with a required forging skill lvl of 5, but then its listed again @ a higher req. skill lvl of like 15. The second one also uses an extra ingredient (usually 2 pieces of iron) but I didn't really see a difference when i forged them for the hell of it. It wasn't a higher level than the other axes i'd made. Weird.
The second recipe is how you're supposed to level up the tool. By using the regular tool and two peices of scrap metal, you can raise your tool's level by one every time. The reason it didn't work for you is because when you forge an item, its level is equal to that of the lowest-level ingredient. For example, a level nine hammer plus a level ten scrap metal plus a level one scrap metal gets you a level one hammer.
What you want to do is to take your tool and add two peices of scrap metal that are BOTH at least one level above that of your tool. When you start the forging meter, aim for the small green tabs; hitting one of those means that your tool's level will be that of the lowest item+1. In the above example, that would mean your hammer would be level two, even though you had a level one ingredient in the mix.
Hope that helps, and that I was clear.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on August 04, 2009, 11:41:45 AM
Well I'm sure i was using ingredients of level 4 and higher because i sold anything level 3 and under (had an abundance of them and needed to clear my pockets!). Perhaps I'm just mistaken, though.
Thanks for clearing up what the second recipe is used for, thats an important peice of information right there! And i always aim for the green spots on the meter, if only to hear the invisible crowd that watches me as i forge in my home go "oOOoOoooooOo" ;)
By the way, are you new here or just the smartest bot we've ever had? :P
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 04, 2009, 12:20:55 PM
<3 summer holidays
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on August 04, 2009, 01:06:09 PM
Well I'm sure i was using ingredients of level 4 and higher because i sold anything level 3 and under (had an abundance of them and needed to clear my pockets!). Perhaps I'm just mistaken, though.
By the way, are you new here or just the smartest bot we've ever had? :P
Actually I'm certain you did, but remember that your tool also counts as an "ingredient," so even if all the other materials are at level 10, upgrading a level 1 tool still results in a level 1 tool. It's ultimately worth upgrading, because a level ten tool seems to use much, much less RP per use (which is critical when the best watering can gobbles up 50 RP per square!), but it is a very big pain.
And like Stratos said, I'm a newbie around here. RFN's latest poll brought me over the edge into joining up.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Caliban on August 05, 2009, 12:36:31 AM
Well I'm sure i was using ingredients of level 4 and higher because i sold anything level 3 and under (had an abundance of them and needed to clear my pockets!). Perhaps I'm just mistaken, though.
By the way, are you new here or just the smartest bot we've ever had? :P
Actually I'm certain you did, but remember that your tool also counts as an "ingredient," so even if all the other materials are at level 10, upgrading a level 1 tool still results in a level 1 tool. It's ultimately worth upgrading, because a level ten tool seems to use much, much less RP per use (which is critical when the best watering can gobbles up 50 RP per square!), but it is a very big pain.
And like Stratos said, I'm a newbie around here. RFN's latest poll brought me over the edge into joining up.
Well thanks again for the tip! Now that you actually have an avatar, I can believe you are not a bot. So welcome aboard, please introduce yourself in the thread which was linked to above me. It's only common courtesy around here.
RFF Update:
Beat my first boss today. I feel kinda dumb, cuz over the last few play sessions, I've tried exploring all of the Green Ruins just so I could at least know where the boss is, even if I wasn't ready to face him/it. No luck, or so I thought. I resorted to searching for a map of the dungeon, and found one, only to see that I'd passed by the Boss door multiple times! I'd gone thru there and never once noticed that the odd little alcove with nothing in it was actually a door lol
It was the last day of Spring, I sowed the seeds for all the summer crops I purchased and let my pet goblin harvest the last of my turnips while I went off to battle. Beat that boss on my first try, and was lucky enough to level up just as I was low on health and RP :D! Then, when the boss was at about half health, i used a food item that had special properties to make sure I head full HP/RP as well as the ability to put some extra hurtin' on that giant cock ;)
Now when i play today, I'll start off my summer feeling victorious and accomplished :)
*Note: Post left a little vague as to not spoil anything for Pro, who has different priorities and thus not yet fought the first boss. Please be kind, use spoiler tags when necessary
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: noname2200 on August 05, 2009, 03:06:35 PM
Well I'm sure i was using ingredients of level 4 and higher because i sold anything level 3 and under (had an abundance of them and needed to clear my pockets!). Perhaps I'm just mistaken, though.
By the way, are you new here or just the smartest bot we've ever had? :P
Actually I'm certain you did, but remember that your tool also counts as an "ingredient," so even if all the other materials are at level 10, upgrading a level 1 tool still results in a level 1 tool. It's ultimately worth upgrading, because a level ten tool seems to use much, much less RP per use (which is critical when the best watering can gobbles up 50 RP per square!), but it is a very big pain.
And like Stratos said, I'm a newbie around here. RFN's latest poll brought me over the edge into joining up.
Well thanks again for the tip! Now that you actually have an avatar, I can believe you are not a bot. So welcome aboard, please introduce yourself in the thread which was linked to above me. It's only common courtesy around here.
RFF Update:
Beat my first boss today. I feel kinda dumb, cuz over the last few play sessions, I've tried exploring all of the Green Ruins just so I could at least know where the boss is, even if I wasn't ready to face him/it. No luck, or so I thought. I resorted to searching for a map of the dungeon, and found one, only to see that I'd passed by the Boss door multiple times! I'd gone thru there and never once noticed that the odd little alcove with nothing in it was actually a door lol
Happy to help. Anyhow, if you ever need maps of any of the dungeons, a user at another forum kindly uploaded detailed scans. You can find them here. http://vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=2062042
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on August 06, 2009, 09:50:43 AM
Wow, those are much better than the crap I found (blurry in game screenshots), so thanks again!
So what's been going on in my RFF life? Well the first of summer was awesomely fun, Anette actually looks kinda cute when not in that big postman outfit! Someones gotta new love intereeeest! The next day id wished for a rainy week, and a rainy week I got. Made life easier because I didn't have to water the massie crops i'd planted, which made me develop a nice schedule where I got to meet and gift everyone:
Gather wild grass, weeds, or fodder until Anette comes. Water my crops in the Green Ruins, then on Whale Isle (surface and depths). Visit the clock tower, give cinnamon fish. Visit the church, gie Kross a warrior medal, talk to stella, gie lara a strawberry. Selphys next, read a couple of new books. On to the town, erik, rosetta, give Ganesha and Turner some ore. Rita gets any lame jewelry I forged the night before. Uzuki gets fish, and chocolate bar for the fatty. Visit danny on the way back home, then chop wood or till land until my energies depleted. Runey management till 10 Meet tabatha and bianca in the bath, give melody some grass and bathe myself. (Dissapopinted there's no cutscene with them dammit!) Warp home and toil with my things until my energies gone,then hit the hay.
With that rainy schedule, I got friend and love points up with all theillagers and leveled up in every skill category. After last nights storm, there's amess to clean on my farm and a new dungeon to unlock... here I come! :D
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 06, 2009, 12:26:15 PM
GOT ME SOME IRON
EAT ****, GAME
I learned that all the Runeys are extinct in 2 of my districts. LAUGH-OUT-LOUD.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Crimm on August 06, 2009, 08:41:10 PM
I learned that all the Runeys are extinct in 2 of my districts. LAUGH-OUT-LOUD.
'Bout damn time if you ask me lol. It's odd, i feel like ive been finding more iron than copper lately. The last time i got a peice of copper was in a treasure chest on either whale island or the green ruins. Most likely whale island. Now that i finally accessed the lava ruins, i'm on the hunt for some SILVER biotch.
Lol extinct runeys? I've come close, but i try to fix it on my overly productive days when i wear out long before my bath schedule. I try to go later in the evening so i can use those precious daylight hours to interact with people. Runey management is easy to do when running around talking to people, collecting things to gift, since the harvester doesnt require any RP. When 9 or 10 rolls around, i'll hop in the bath, head to my feild and get rid of some tree stumps 'til midnight. After that, i go in and cook/craft/forge/work in the lab to get my skills up. If i somehow don't have items needed to make anything, i'll just whack my weapons around to level up before bed lol Why is it so fun to hit my table with a hammer?
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: noname2200 on August 07, 2009, 11:15:05 AM
I learned that all the Runeys are extinct in 2 of my districts. LAUGH-OUT-LOUD.
The seasonal dungeons' floors each have a different main ore, so while iron is plentiful in the late Green/early Lava ruins, the game will make you wait a while before you can finally track down some silver.
Just to rub that part in, now that you finally found that precious iron ore the game will start shoving more iron down your face than you can handle, while simultaneously taunting you with silver and gold recipes that you won't be able to make for hours.
This game is cruel that way.
A small hint though: using your hammer's special attack on rocks increasing the chance of getting something besides junk ore, and it's the best way to get higher-level ore. Since the gemstones are almost impossible to get any other way, this comes in handy.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 07, 2009, 02:55:46 PM
What exactly makes those dungeons seasonal? I've noticed my spring crops takes forever to grow inside Green Ruins.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: noname2200 on August 07, 2009, 07:22:09 PM
What exactly makes those dungeons seasonal? I've noticed my spring crops takes forever to grow inside Green Ruins.
They're each the same season no matter what time of the year it is, i.e. you can grow Spring crops in the Green Ruins even if it's Summer/Fall/Winter outside. The Lava Ruins are always Summer, and the Snow Ruins are always Autumn. Whale Island can grow any crop from any season at any time. Runey prosperity rules also apply in all the dungeons.
Take advantage of this to grow the most expensive flowers starting early in the game, because those can take up to a full year to grow (so obviously they can ONLY be grown in the dungeons).
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 07, 2009, 07:37:05 PM
"Runey prosperity rules also apply in all the dungeons."
That's the detail I was looking for.
I have Runeys extinct in 3 districts now. LAUGH-OUT-LOUD.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on August 08, 2009, 01:41:39 AM
Well runeys in dungeons only turn into those hp/rp restoring rune spohere things, not actual runeys (ie colorful floating spirits).
Don't know why you think crops are taking longer in dungeons, turnips still take 4 days to grow for me, unless I forget to water a patch. I need more crops in the green ruins but I'm slowly working my way thru whale island. I have two more 9x9 squares before reaching the fin with crops. Gonna plant flowers soon to get that started.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 08, 2009, 02:50:50 AM
Actual Runeys exist around town anyway regardless of crop growth.
My crops are taking longer in Green Ruins because it took 7 DAYS for turnips to be harvest-worthy, and the RP blobs still didn't show up until 2 days after that. And in this district, I only have Tree Runeys surviving.
In other news, I'm a Table Tennis Pro, finished another Condom Unit mission, and finished another House of the Dead Overkill Director's Cut mission.
Why is Overkill so radically awesome? My shoulders hurt. And the game isn't too dark, people just don't have their TVs set right.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on August 08, 2009, 09:34:11 AM
I think your game hates you
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on August 09, 2009, 02:14:40 PM
I GOT SILVAAA
**** YEAH SLUTS!
update!
So i used my SILVA to forge me an Iron FIST Hammer, a Lumber Axe, and a Lion Can. I can now break boulders and tree stumps with three SA's each (as opposed to the annoying 6 it took for tree stumps). I haven't tried the Lion Can yet, but bumps up the capacity to 18 uses, and I'll just assume that the new SA lets me water a whole 9x9 square ala the Golden Watering Can from Harvest Moon.
I haven't tackled the Lava Ruins since finding the Silver BFl-3 but I will delve deeper once I forge myself an Aqua Blade. I refuse to buy an Aqua Crystal so i'm just gonna keep checking that little room near the end of the Whale Island Depths for one (found a few wind and fire ones in there). In the meantime, I have almost 90% of my field tilled, the whole bottom row is just recently planted with fodder seeds, and I'm preparing myself to make a sweet autumn harvest to rake in the cash before winter comes. Oh, and i'm still in mid summer by the way :D
Gotta love this game.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 13, 2009, 04:54:25 PM
Ahhh I've been budgeting my time among other games and chores these past couple weeks. When I get back I have to take my Runeys off the Endangered Species List. I've barely started Autumn.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on August 14, 2009, 09:42:55 AM
Ahhh I've been budgeting my time among other games and chores these past couple weeks. When I get back I have to take my Runeys off the Endangered Species List. I've barely started Autumn.
I've meant to do that but RFF is just so engaging. I don't know how i finished to pay off the second to last loan on my house in AC:CF and acquire my basement (finally) when I was just starting out in RFF. Luckily I did it though, cuz I wouldn't of reached that one milesstone at the pace i'm going now.
Conduit, AC:CF, Punch Out, Mushroom Men, Okami, and everything else in my backlog can SUCK IT. RFF OWNZ!
Last time I played i got hit by a second storm and it FUCKED up my grass patches after just planting them. That pisses me off to no end. Can anyone tell me how grass works in this game compared to Harvest moon? I believe in the first HM the grass dies off completely in the winter and has to be replanted, but in HM64 it regrows the way it was once winter is over. I don't mind beeing a little wasteful and use a whole bag of seeds to replace the one or two patches per 9x9 square that are missing now if the grass is going to regrow once spring rolls around again. If I'm going to have to replant however, i might as well leave my feild looking a little sloppy until then.
Oh, and i found an easy way to get silver. Once you get a peice from the Lava Ruins, you have a small chance of being able to get some in the Green Ruins (and i'm assuming Whale Island as well) as long as you break stones using an SA. Using an SA on those ore boulders gives you a better chance at finding higher level ore as well! Though when it comes to silver, i've only found level 1 or 2 at best. Iron, though, i've found up to level 9!
I've actually worked this into part of my routine. Visit the Green Ruins, plant the cucumbers and strawberrys i have growing in the first room, head up the steps and make a left, then another left (cutting down the second vine wall) and once i watter the crops i have in this room (the one with the ants) i'll head to the alcove to the left and use my Silver* Hammer to break the blocks in my way. The path there leads to a door with boulders blocking a chest that contains Rice**.
Next time I play, its BOAT RACE time. I previewed the day (ie saved in the morning, played and quit w/o saving) and I have to ask: How do you get a girl to join you on the boat? Annette was the only girl at the lake that day, and was the only one that asked if i'd be going to the boat race on the previous day. Everyone else was uninterested or just made a passing comment to let you know the boat race was coming up.
*You need the silver hammer to get into the room i'm speaking of because only that will break the small brown rocks blocking the path. You can try using a weaker hammer with a ton of SA's but after 6 hits and no luck (what a special axe woulda done to take out a stump) i gave up wasting RP. With the silver hammer, just 1 SA breaks em. Obviously this means you really do need to delve into the Lava Ruins and acquire some Silver there first, before it becoming available elsewhere.
**I never paid too much attention to what was in this treasure chest because i was more concerned with getting Silver and high levels of Iron and Scrap Iron for forging. It feels like every time i've done it, it is Rice that I get, and at least twice now i've gotten level 10 rice! I keep it in my fridge until i get some more recipes to find out what i can make that will maximize RP/HP restoration with its high level (or nutrients!).
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: noname2200 on August 14, 2009, 12:06:25 PM
You probably won't get a girl your first time: I can't remember the exact number of hearts she needs, but I believe it's six or seven. She'll show up if you have enough hearts with her.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 14, 2009, 01:17:33 PM
"I've actually worked this into part of my routine. Visit the Green Ruins, plant the cucumbers and strawberrys i have growing in the first room"
Stop right there. Quit copying me.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on August 14, 2009, 04:44:00 PM
You probably won't get a girl your first time: I can't remember the exact number of hearts she needs, but I believe it's six or seven. She'll show up if you have enough hearts with her.
Thats what i figured. If i tried wooing more girls a lil earlier in the game, my first two weeks or so, i might've had at least Mist to 6LP by now. She's at only at 5 now :(
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 14, 2009, 05:07:19 PM
This game is part of Wii's 10-year strategy.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on August 19, 2009, 08:31:40 PM
DAMN YOU STUPID BOAT
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Tanatoes on August 19, 2009, 11:27:52 PM
Did you have the barkeep rowing with you?
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on August 20, 2009, 09:07:13 AM
No, he got a 100 hand slap :P Would I have won if he was with me!? I didn't think it'd even be possible, thought any answer i chose would've gotten the same "cut-scene"..
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 20, 2009, 12:14:52 PM
You getting buddy-buddy with the INNkeeper? That's a dark path you're treading. The townsgirls will look at you differently, some might be excited by it.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on August 20, 2009, 02:28:58 PM
You getting buddy-buddy with the INNkeeper? That's a dark path you're treading. The townsgirls will look at you differently, some might be excited by it.
it's bad enough "raguna" would only try to sleep in another guys bed at the start of the game..
in other news, my summer is almost over and i've yet to conqure the lava ruins.. what happened to me!? I was doing so well! As for the girls, i lost LP with TWO girls after accidentally walking in on them changing into their bathing suits :(
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: noname2200 on August 20, 2009, 11:38:27 PM
You getting buddy-buddy with the INNkeeper? That's a dark path you're treading. The townsgirls will look at you differently, some might be excited by it.
it's bad enough "raguna" would only try to sleep in another guys bed at the start of the game..
in other news, my summer is almost over and i've yet to conqure the lava ruins.. what happened to me!? I was doing so well! As for the girls, i lost LP with TWO girls after accidentally walking in on them changing into their bathing suits :(
Should've kept visiting: eventually, in true anime fashion, you walk in on the lot, and they group-bash you.
Good times!
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on August 21, 2009, 11:21:01 AM
You getting buddy-buddy with the INNkeeper? That's a dark path you're treading. The townsgirls will look at you differently, some might be excited by it.
it's bad enough "raguna" would only try to sleep in another guys bed at the start of the game..
in other news, my summer is almost over and i've yet to conqure the lava ruins.. what happened to me!? I was doing so well! As for the girls, i lost LP with TWO girls after accidentally walking in on them changing into their bathing suits :(
Should've kept visiting: eventually, in true anime fashion, you walk in on the lot, and they group-bash you.
Good times!
Hahaha thats awesome. I should try that and not save that day, it'd suck to lose that much LP otherwise. Mist was the only girl i had an even amount of FP and LP with, but now the LP is about half a level back. I stopped talking to the bitch just to try and get it even again ;P
I have another question for those more familiar with the game.. In the status screen, I've noticed theres a picture of what looks like a little girls head right above my players name (upper left corner) for some time now and just yesterday, after having whale island talk to me for the first time since my first trip there.. i noticed there's a second icon. It looks a little like the duck in Mists pond. My question is simply, is this some sort of indicator of how i'm progressing in the story?
A simple yes or no would suffice, but i won't mind a more detailed answer with as little spoilers as possible. Thanks in advance!
UPDATE!
Lava Ruins boss is sucking my junk in hell right now ;) First day of Autumn, with only 1 in-game hour to beat his ass. Mikey likes it!
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 24, 2009, 12:57:48 PM
Massive update: I haven't played in two weeks. Will this week be the lucky week?
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on August 24, 2009, 03:57:45 PM
Massive update: I haven't played in two weeks. Will this week be the lucky week?
That would explain how you've found the time to post as many videos as you have the last few days. You've been spending the time encoding videos over chasing the ladies in the game.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 24, 2009, 05:11:24 PM
Trade-offs exist inside and outside the game.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on August 25, 2009, 03:26:28 PM
But your ladies may miss you if you are gone too long.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on August 26, 2009, 12:44:23 PM
But your ladies may miss you if you are gone too long.
Luckily this aint Animal Crossing. They won't even know he was gone.
I played for.. i think my wii clocked me in at 13hrs straight this weekend. :D From about 3am Saturday to 4pm Sunday.. then i went out to get fast food cuz it was too hot to cook anything in my tiny boiler-room apartment. I didn't get as much done as i'd liked, but thats because I'm preparing..
I'm sure I mentioned "conquering"* the Lava Ruins on the first of Autumn, so I'm around the 19th now and have the majority of the Green Ruins growing crops or fodder, and I'm starting to do the same in the Lava Ruins in preperation for Winter. I had every bit of land on my personal farm growing seasonal crops (with some fodder of course) until a fucking storm hit and made everything look ugly. Luckily the one time harvest crops (like spinach) were hit the worst, and the few multi-harvest crops (like eggplants) were barely touched. The beauty of a full feild has been restored, for the most part.
I've also done some advances in the story line as well, without even stepping foot in the Snow Ruins! I've unlocked the gate on Whale Island and made my way to these odd floating towers... taking the same approach I did with the Lava Ruins:
*Run like hell thru most of the monsters and make my way to the checkpoints.
Doubt I'll be able to take on the boss here though, because the monsters in the area are tough as ****. I was able to take out some of the monsters in the Lava Ruins, even if it took some patience and a few healing items, but the ones on the later parts of Whale Island are like bosses themselves. Once Winter rolls around I plan on tackling the Snow Ruins for some serious level ups, with the occasional monster raping when I go back to the other dungeons for crop collecting.
Moving on to relationships.. Mist is almost at 10 FP but at around 6 or 7 LP which pisses me off, because if it weren't for a few incidents (like mistakingly peeking in on her in the beach changing room) her LP and FP woulda remained equal! Rosetta is also recently at 6LP which means I was able to give them each a very personal gift; CUTE BATHING SUITS! Too bad summers over and I won't get to see them don the two-peice suits anytime soon lol. The rest of the girls are catching up nicely in the LP department, though some are still very stubborn. Eunice, Lara, Tabitha and Bianca to be specific. I give them gifts DAILY and barely have any hearts from them. Yet I've only recently met Iris Noire and have 4 FP with her and 2 LP, in like a matter of days. WTF YOU PRUDE BITCHES!
Can't wait to go home and start forging some **** using the power of GOLD! mwahahahaha
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on August 27, 2009, 09:38:16 AM
I went to gamestop yesterday to see if i could pick up MP-Tri with some goodies since a lot of you had sucess picking up the preorder bonuses without preordering it seems, instead i ALMOST walked out with a ton of other **** i wouldn't have time to play.
One of those games was Rune Factory 2 for DS. I haven't bought a DS game in awhile (not that i should since i've yet to beat half the games i have for it) but I thought "hm.. maybe it'll be good to have this around and get my RF fix while i'm on the toilet.." Then decided against it because i'd probably get hooked playing it and not leave the bathroom until my battery died.
Then i thought it'd be super hardtime longcore for me to play RF2 on my DS at the same time as RFF on Wii! I could play my DS every time i go indoors where time stops, then when i have to be indoors for RF2, i'd go back to RFF!
I realized I had a problem and walked back to my car empty handed..
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 27, 2009, 12:03:01 PM
Admitting it is the first step.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on August 27, 2009, 12:23:12 PM
Girlfriends going upstate tonight so i won't get to see her after work.. guess i'll be spending my evening with Mist, Rosetta, Melody, Annete, Iris, Eunice, Cinnamon, Lara, Selphy Uzuki, Bianca, Tabatha, and Ganesha :D
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 31, 2009, 12:15:40 PM
I'VE DEFEATED THE GIANT COCK.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 31, 2009, 05:25:05 PM
I shall elaborate.
I've given up on trying to farm every bit of the first dungeon, considering I can't access all of it and I've concluded it's a massive waste of time. I'll just farm in the most accessible areas of the dungeon (minimum foot traffic) and farm only what gets me useful crops in the shortest amount of time and effort.
I fish for Cinnamon's clam, and I grow flowers for Eunice's flowering fullness. That is the objective.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on August 31, 2009, 07:52:53 PM
'bout damn time. What level is your character at? Appearantly, from what I read, I beat the first two dungeon bosses under the "minimum suggested' level making me officially awesome.
I've given up on trying to farm every bit of the first dungeon, considering I can't access all of it and I've concluded it's a massive waste of time. I'll just farm in the most accessible areas of the dungeon (minimum foot traffic) and farm only what gets me useful crops in the shortest amount of time and effort.
I fish for Cinnamon's clam, and I grow flowers for Eunice's flowering fullness. That is the objective.
Definately don't farm every inch of any dungeon unless its Whale Islands floating chambers. Every other one won't be worth your time only because they're season specific, whereas Whale Island can gro crops from ANY season, thus making you more profitable by growing all of the pricier crops right next to eachother.
I'll have to elaborate some other time though..
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on September 01, 2009, 11:55:01 AM
Ok, so to elaborate on my above post.. this is the current strategy I'm employing:
As the first dungeon to be conqoured by yours truley, as well as being closest to your characters home, the Green Ruins doubles more than suitably as your farm away from farm. The layout of the ruins (a giant, multilayered donut of doom) makes it easy to navigate, and after a few trips around you'll know it like the back of your hand. Obviously, having a silver hammer helps to reach the few rooms or paths blocked off by the small brownish boulders, but the real key here is to have a monster for transportation. My favorite pick is [default name]Silver, the wolf monster towards the end of the Whale Island Fin.
With some sorta transport monster available, farming the Green Ruins is SO much simpler, trust me on that. Not only can you access more ground on your four legged friend, but while you're watering or harvesting your crops, it'll keep those pesky native monsters off your back. With that said, even I don't have this dungeon 100% tilled/farmed and its probably best that way. I do have the whole first floor growing though, but only certain segments of the 2nd/3rd floors, making sure to keep some of the soil as is in order to harvest the wild grass and lumber (though rocks and weeds are pointless, so its 50/50 you'll get what you want there).
I'll go into detail here on my usual routine for my trips to the Green Ruins:
As stated once before, the first two patches of soil are growing cucumbers (take too fucking long) and strawberries. After going thru the vines, and pay a visit to that one big patch of land (i believe its the biggest in the dungeon) where I have the top row growing turnips* and the bottom growing strawberries.
Move north passed the room with the boulders and head to the one long room with 3 sections of soil, each with 2 of the 3x3 patches each. Here i have crops growing in this order (from left to right and top/bottom:
The next room to the right I decided to use the 4 patches of soil there for grass**. I go back to the last room, head down past the vine and work my way to the far right. I go into the first room on the right, where i have more grass going, head downstairs where i have strawberries, then head out and to the left. Depending on whether or not i've harvested crops/wasted time I either go left passed the door to the shortcut stairs, or just head down the the 3bf. If i do go left past the door, i go down into the first room where i have Strawberries/turnips, then to the attached room where i have more grass. If i go down to the 3bf I hit up the first room on the right where I have more Strawberry/turnip combos growing. The last floor only houses turnips, which I might switch out for grass soon..
And so ends my routine trips thru the Green Ruins. If I go there first starting fresh at 6am I can be done by 11am on a good day, giving me plenty of times to work on the Lava ruins, though since I have plenty going on in the Green Ruins i'm thinking about giving up both every other day just to finally get my ass into the Snow Ruins and hopefully beat that bosses ass before the end of Winter.
*Turnips are awesome in the Green Ruins (and Whale Island) when you use them merely to grow Runes. 4 days of watering and you just leave em unpicked so you can get a new Rune everyday, it helps out a ton when dungeon crawling.
**Grass: I've been using grass as a more productive turnip. Harvesting crops in the deeper parts of dungeons seems like a time waster, so a 5 day investment to grow grass produces the runes you'll need to regain RP by the time you get to those rooms later in your dungeon crawling as well as letting you harvest fodder every 2 days. Obviously you'll want to be sure you have a special attack available for both your watering can and sickle before attempting any of this though, since that alone will be your biggest time saver.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 03, 2009, 01:17:07 PM
I promise to give the scary game a break and spend time with my prey later.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on September 04, 2009, 10:01:49 AM
Tiny update:
-Forged a GOLDEN HAMMER OF AWESOMNESS and can now break some of the rocks in the Lava Ruins that were hiding goodies.
-Got Mist, Rosetta, Melody, Selphy and maybe one other girl up to 6LP (Mist and Rosetta are at 10FP) and gave 3 of them "cute bathing suits" I crafted myself. Next Summer is gonna be HAWT!
-Am planning on giving up on farming for winter and conquer the Snow ruins. I need all the daily leveling up I can, those monsters are tough!
-Finally realized how I can see Melodys bath event. She's naughty..
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 05, 2009, 07:14:19 AM
Earlier today I made the mistake of re-entering the boss room in the Green Ruins, only to nearly get killed by a higher-level Monster Cock. He was dealing serious damage to me and summoning lots of smaller egg-throwing cocks. I changed up my tactics and Fire Rod'd him from careful distances, and survived. At least they offered the full stash of spoils for defeating him again.
Also did some hippie work, redistributing Runeys and bringing back some balance to the ecosystem.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on September 05, 2009, 01:16:29 PM
Earlier today I made the mistake of re-entering the boss room in the Green Ruins, only to nearly get killed by a higher-level Monster Cock. He was dealing serious damage to me and summoning lots of smaller egg-throwing cocks. I changed up my tactics and Fire Rod'd him from careful distances, and survived. At least they offered the full stash of spoils for defeating him again.
Also did some hippie work, redistributing Runeys and bringing back some balance to the ecosystem.
I made a similar mistake..
Went in thinking "oh i'm a much higher level now, this'll be a peice of cake" and went in with minimal health items.. hot damn. My original strategy was to fire rod him to death anyway, which I did, and so the same strategy held true this time. Luckily the few food items I did have incread my Fire Power (literally) but not much in the health department. This is where my brains light bulb went on and I thought "****, i know!"
My first time fighting Mr. Monster Cock I got 2 level ups by attacking the mini-cocks (the vienna sausage of this particular monster lair) just because they were in my way. I decided to just drag this battle out for the long hall; attack the boss with fire blasts until i had minimal RP, then run around until he laid eggs and attacked those with my sword before they hatched. Rinse and repeat and before long my HP and RP were restored with another level up and i destroyed the beast. GO ME!
As for runey work.. ugh I gotta get on that. I've ignored it for far too long and went from having such a propsperous summer to a dead winter. Seriously, 4 sections have runeys extinct wtf!
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: noname2200 on September 06, 2009, 10:08:43 PM
Earlier today I made the mistake of re-entering the boss room in the Green Ruins, only to nearly get killed by a higher-level Monster Cock. He was dealing serious damage to me and summoning lots of smaller egg-throwing cocks. I changed up my tactics and Fire Rod'd him from careful distances, and survived. At least they offered the full stash of spoils for defeating him again.
Also did some hippie work, redistributing Runeys and bringing back some balance to the ecosystem.
Just wait 'til you beat the main quest. All the bosses go completely insane. I'm at level 99, and even the cockatrice makes me pay attention through the whole fight. The Ice Dungeon boss...:-(
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 07, 2009, 01:50:17 AM
You're so ahead of me. It's like you've been playing since 2005.
D=
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on September 07, 2009, 12:25:35 PM
Earlier today I made the mistake of re-entering the boss room in the Green Ruins, only to nearly get killed by a higher-level Monster Cock. He was dealing serious damage to me and summoning lots of smaller egg-throwing cocks. I changed up my tactics and Fire Rod'd him from careful distances, and survived. At least they offered the full stash of spoils for defeating him again.
Also did some hippie work, redistributing Runeys and bringing back some balance to the ecosystem.
Just wait 'til you beat the main quest. All the bosses go completely insane. I'm at level 99, and even the cockatrice makes me pay attention through the whole fight. The Ice Dungeon boss...:-(
Me or Noname?? Cuz he's so far ahead of me its not funny lol. I heard once the mainquest is completed all the bosses take steroids, that should be fun though!
You know, one thing I rarely mention in this thread is just how good the sound track is. Aside from maybe one track I've heard so far (the theme that plays on Holidays where festivals take place, sounds like a march) everything is awesomely catchy and sets the mood perfectly. Do either of you (cuz there's only 3 of us awesome enough to be part of this thread after all) know where I can attain this games soundtrack? By legit means or "other" I don't really care, just PM me any info you might have.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on September 07, 2009, 04:01:17 PM
This insolence is why you were demoted from BIFF status (i think). Of course I tried a google search, and clicked almost every single thing I was linked too but no luck.
Back to the game updates:
A storm hit me mid winter and I used the day to toil in my lab until I nearly died, then went to bed. The next morning I didn't think to check my field because without crops to destroy, there's nothing to worry about. I have the monsters in my barn helping breaking the daily rocks, harvesting lumber and wild grass that grows so i'm good right? Wrong.
Aside from that atrocity, I've done a lot of progress lately, in the storyline to boot! Yep, not only did I make it past the first floor of the Snow Ruins (previously, the first room of the second floor would kill me) but made it to the boss room!... sorta!
Turns out there was a mid-boss that I woulda fought but fortunetly I was able to skip (I wasn't prepared anyway) the whole thing and watch a cutscene instead, all because of my charm ;) The downside of this, besides leveling up more than I already have just trying to survive down there (Lvl: 41, **** yeah), is a certain character in my game has gone MIA a few weeks before our date :( Hopefully I can get her back/complete the storyline before the date.. if not I'll settle for before Winter ends. If so, my personal goal will be complete!.. sorta ;)
I hoped to get all the dungeons done before then too but its not looking likely since the last two bosses (i know of) are going to be impossible to beat at my current level.. oh well.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 08, 2009, 01:44:31 PM
How are you liking this purchase? Game of the Decade?
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on September 08, 2009, 01:58:04 PM
EasyCure...you missed it. Hold your mouse over the link...there you go! ;)
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on September 08, 2009, 02:04:40 PM
RORICON FACTORY FRONTIER is the new defintion of value.
I could stare at Swimsuit Anette and say "wow, this game was worth it."
Speaking of that, I can't wait for Summer to roll around again and see half the girls in the "Cute Bathing Suits" I crafed for them. Only a matter of time before my skill level rises and I can make the sexy "AMAZING" bathing suit for bikini-clad goodness. I'm trying to get my LP with Eunice up so she can go on that fucking diet already and be on the beach with everyone else, too.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 08, 2009, 07:49:50 PM
"I'm trying to get my LP with Eunice up so she can go on that fucking diet already and be on the beach with everyone else, too."
You've finally learned YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: noname2200 on September 08, 2009, 08:41:28 PM
I can't send you links to pirated music, or even a method of getting whatever songs you want yourself!
That would be wrooooooong....>_> <_< >_>
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on September 09, 2009, 08:56:21 AM
^No need, I think I found what I'm looking for, unlike stupid Bono.
I played RFF some more yesterday and made a little progress regarding my tools! In a quick trip to the Lava Ruins in an attempt to start clearing some of the feilds on the lower floors, I realized I no longer have to run away from this dungeons monsters. At my current level of 42, even the most intimidating looking monsters are pushovers when facing my Icifier blade! I was able to defeat some red demon looking creature and acquire A "Glittering Edge" at long last. I used it to craft myself a "Mountain Axe" which, according to the info, is Paul B. approved ;thumbs up:
I also realized I had the ingredients to craft a "Super Sickle," for uneven cutting power! And at least one other tool that I can't recall at the moment... dang! I know I "wasted" my ONE peice of Platinum on making a wristwatch, but seeing as how it gave me a pretty good boost with my Attack, defense and magic which lead to my survival in the depths of the Snow Ruins (and pwnage of the Lava Ruins), its all good! Without being able to survive in the Snow Ruins, the likelyness of me acquiring any more platinum would be slim, so it really does work out well. I'll just pretend it was Strategy ;)
God this game is awesome.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: DAaaMan64 on September 09, 2009, 09:44:53 PM
Sounds assome
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 10, 2009, 12:26:30 AM
It's so nice graphics, I love them. I will upgrade them for my Nintendo DS Lite from http://www.accessorygeeks.com/nintendo-ds-lite-accessories.html. ;D
You can help me upgrade MY ASS.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on September 10, 2009, 10:28:21 AM
Everyone should upgrade to a shiny metal ass! You'll need the Master Forge and 1 peice of Platinum, 2 peice scrap metal and at least a level 60 in your forging skills.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 10, 2009, 02:13:34 PM
I feel torn when I play games other than this one.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on September 10, 2009, 03:13:53 PM
I feel torn when I play games other than this one.
Do what I do and pretend one of the following:
a. You're 'Raguna' and you're just taking a day off from your chores to sit at home and play videogames (to increas your Gaming level).
b. You're 'Raguna' and (insert girl of your choice here) and you are having a couples fight. You need video games to blow off some steam before going back and giving her fish.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on September 14, 2009, 12:43:55 PM
Bittersweet update: (I'll try to leave spoilers out)
The next time I fire up my Wii and click on RFF, I'll be playing the New Years Eve festival, and I have everything prepared for the start of spring; plenty of cabbage and potato seeds, plenty of monster pets to help out on the farm, plenty of high level tools. It should be a joyous occasion, after all my house is completely furnished (All furniture and equipment, second floor bedroom with a large bed, fancy curtains and a nice painting from Lute), I'm hitting level ups left and right (i'm at 52 now), half of the eligible girls are in love with me (8LP) and I've got plenty of money to retire on.. aka I don't have to harvest **** and can just spend more time dungeon crawling and monster beating. So why am I bummed out?
Well, to be frank.. I'm just TOO good. No seriously. If I wasn't, I wouldn't be in this stupid situation I'm in:
A few updates ago, I mentioned that I was finally able to get past the second floor of the Snow Ruins and make it to the 3rd (or is it 4th?) where I encountered a would-be boss I didn't have to fight. (By the way, I didn't have to fight this boss cuz I'm just that good) This turned out to be a key point in the games storyline, which was finally progressing for me. However, this all happened a day or two After I agreed to go on a date with a certain character at the end of the month.. that character now went missing as part of the storyline.
The same day as I asked this character out, a second character had left town for her own personal reasons, and returns to Trampoli only once a week, on Holidays. Turns out this is an event I have to go thru with her before I can actually marry her. Again, this goes back to me just being that good.
So now, I have two characters absent from town, and I'm nearing the end of the first year. Part of the storyline event involves me giving a certain item to all the eligible girls in town and returning to them a few days later to recieve something back. Obviously I can't give one to the missing girl, but the girl that left town temporarily is (obviously) no where to be found during this and the end of Winter is drawing near! Luckily for me, the day some of these events started to unfold, I was towards the weekend anyway, so I was able to give the girl what I needed to, but unforntunately I'd have to wait till the next "Holiday" to see her again and retrieve what I need to finally finish this storyline.
It just irks me that this all happened at once, and its because I tried so hard to finish as much as I could before the end of my first year. Now look at me, my goals ruined by my own work ethic. If I didn't push myself I wouldn't of gotten that far so fast in the Snow Ruins, or at the least wouldn't of went outta my way to give this girl gifts on a daily basis in order to trigger the marriage prerequisite event so early on, and I wouldnt be dissapointed that neither of my goals were accomplished (I'd originally hoped to beat all the games bosses within the first year and draw out the storyline afterwards).
Oh, in my last few days of Winter since I had nothing to do but wait (to try and finish the storyline) I ended up pressing even further in to the Snow Ruins and made it to the last floor, barely. I can kill a few of the enemies up to the 3rd floor but after that.. its brutal. All the monsters feel as if they're twice the level I'm at, and they're in abundance to make matters worse. I literally made it past like 6 monsters, taking only one hit, and making it down the last flight of stairs with only a slither of health. Luckily, as has been standard for the last floor of a dungeon, there are no enemies so I was able to open the last door to the shortcut-steps to make things easier whenever I feel confident enough to take on the boss.
I went home, saved, and went back to do a lil boss preview and see what its like... my god. I hit the damn thing with my stongest weapon (its actually my trusty Super Sickle) and its Level 3 Special Attack (Tripple hitting spin-slash) and I thought I missed because its health bar didn't budge. Damn..
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: decoyman on September 17, 2009, 11:38:12 AM
Hmm, so why have I been ignoring this till now? Is it an action RPG crossed with Harvest Moon?
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: BeautifulShy on September 17, 2009, 11:48:13 AM
Hmm, so why have I been ignoring this till now? Is it an action RPG crossed with Harvest Moon?
Yep.Perfect way to discribe it.
Dang! Where'd all these good games come from all of a sudden? I hadn't bought anything all summer long, then there's this flood of epic gam3r games. :P Space these things out, people, darn you! ;)
First I've got to finish LKS though...
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 17, 2009, 11:55:12 AM
But you must realize the circular relationships between the RPG elements are as ridiculously deep as the circular farming elements. In fact, AR-PEE-GEE and Farming are all intertwined, such that there's rewards in all the little things you do (and it's encouraged, as grinding is not an efficient solution for advancement; you up your WHOLE game, not just hit "attack" for a few straight hours). It's insane.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 17, 2009, 11:55:52 AM
Hmm, so why have I been ignoring this till now? Is it an action RPG crossed with Harvest Moon?
Yep.Perfect way to discribe it.
Dang! Where'd all these good games come from all of a sudden? I hadn't bought anything all summer long, then there's this flood of epic gam3r games. :P Space these things out, people, darn you! ;)
First I've got to finish LKS though...
WHAT THE HELL are you talking about? Rune Factory Frontier's been out since MARCH.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: decoyman on September 17, 2009, 11:58:58 AM
WHAT THE HELL are you talking about? Rune Factory Frontier's been out since MARCH.
Oh... well then... ahem...
Well, in true hardc0r3 arpeegee gam3r fashion, why are you all still talking about it now, months later? Shouldn't you have moved onto the next big thing by now??? Yes, I blame you and accept no responsibility for my own ignorance. I blame all of you. Especially Easycure. And Pro.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 17, 2009, 12:04:37 PM
I had it since launch. Didn't start spending serious time with it until this summer (thank you State of California furlough days off), and that's when I started working on these updates.
I'm STILL playing it cuz it lasts forever without being pointless, unlike Animal Crossing.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on September 17, 2009, 12:42:25 PM
I had it since launch. Didn't start spending serious time with it until this summer (thank you State of California furlough days off), and that's when I started working on these updates.
I'm STILL playing it cuz it lasts forever without being pointless, unlike Animal Crossing.
And I started playing it once he started these updates. Hell it was Pro's updates that made me rush out and get the game. I'd wanted to get in to the series since I found out it was a Harvest Moon spin-off, but by then the sequel (on the DS) was supposed to come out and supposedly "fixed the problems of the first title" from most impressions I read, so I wanted to wait it out. After that, it slipped from my radar and life was too busy with REAL mature things (not stupid blood splat and pixelated boobies kinda mature) like, you know, a full time job, to spend hours on end with a single video game.
Around the time Pro started his updates with the game, I was contemplating getting Ghost Busters (wii) because it was short and had co-op. The perfect game to play with my gf, since most of my free time is with her anyway. Two birds with one stone sorta deal. I couldn't resist though.. everything Pro talked about just sounded like an awesome, suped up version of Harvest Moon, which RF pretty much is, and I caved. Ive been loving the game ever since and when I do play, I play for hours upon hours on end (longest streak was 13 hours or so lol). Haven't played a video game with that sorta devotion in a LONG time.
I'm getting jittery cuz it's been a week or so since i last played the game... ****!
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 17, 2009, 01:32:16 PM
I've noticed Rune Factory Frontier is now $30 at most retailers. I've also just noticed Tenchu4 down to $20.
3rd Excuse Makers and Nintendo gamers fail at this whole "game customer" relationship thing.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on September 17, 2009, 02:55:29 PM
I've noticed Rune Factory Frontier is now $30 at most retailers. I've also just noticed Tenchu4 down to $20.
3rd Excuse Makers and Nintendo gamers fail at this whole "game customer" relationship thing.
Must buy Tenchu....
Must resist buying second copy of Rune Factory Frontier to give away as a prize...
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on September 18, 2009, 05:18:29 PM
Best Buy is selling the game for $30, and today and tomorrow they are offering free shipping on orders $25 and up. I decided to go ahead and order the game, and it will probably take about a week to get here.
I just hope that THIS game actually works, unlike a certain other game from the same publisher...
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on September 18, 2009, 10:53:09 PM
$30 is tempting. But I also need to get Muramasa and Cursed Mountain. Decisions, decisions...(and time).
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on September 24, 2009, 12:17:17 PM
$30 is tempting. But I also need to get Muramasa and Cursed Mountain. Decisions, decisions...(and time).
If time is an issue then RFF might not be for you (if you think you'll get hooked to it like i do), or at least not at this moment. On the other hand, wouldn't you rather get this game now while its cheap before it becomes too hard to find? Those other two are still full price no? You got time before they're hard to find ;)
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on September 25, 2009, 07:58:56 PM
Quick question: What's the best time to go to bed? I want to use all of the time in one day but I don't want to go to bed too late if it means waking up not fully refreshed.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: BeautifulShy on September 25, 2009, 08:04:24 PM
In Havest Moon I usually stop for the day at 10pm. If you go to bed at 2 am then that gives you problems. So between 10pm and Midnight I would say.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on September 25, 2009, 08:15:07 PM
In Havest Moon I usually stop for the day at 10pm. If you go to bed at 2 am then that gives you problems. So between 10pm and Midnight I would say.
This, though I've gone to bed at 1am a few times and have woken up fine. Then again I have an item that prevents colds, so that might help, and I believe going to bed under a certain amount of HP/RP can be a factor as well...
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 25, 2009, 08:47:17 PM
I goto 1am (12:59am) all-the-way, with no penalities (the game states it). I'll fish on the adjacent stream till 12:45am, then run my ass to the front door.
Lack of HP/RP in an even later time will lead to sickness, on top of waking up later in the morning.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on September 25, 2009, 09:35:31 PM
I goto 1am (12:59am) all-the-way, with no penalities (the game states it). I'll fish on the adjacent stream till 12:45am, then run my ass to the front door.
Lack of HP/RP in an even later time will lead to sickness, on top of waking up later in the morning.
I usually get my ass home at 2:00am and wake up at 6 still.. Any later than that and i'll wake up at 8, but its fine with me (unless i had to have something delivered).
I might actually get to play this game this weekend, its been so long! Gotta ring in the new year!!
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 25, 2009, 09:42:04 PM
I've never woken up at 6 from getting home past 1am.
D=<
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on September 25, 2009, 10:32:41 PM
Selphy hasn't had a new book for me in AGES. Hell Lute doesn't even have anything else I can buy, accept he at least promises a new painting. I know I don't have all the recipe books yet (its obvious when looking at your inventory in the "pause" menu) but theres only 5 or 6 left to get before I do.
Do yourself a favor: DON'T buy the book about crafting gifts! Like half the items you can craft need you to be at a level 99 and the rest are so hard to craft because you need to have acquired items from some of the tougher enemies later in the game anyway, including one of the bosses. Even at my current level of 50 I have some monsters that are still much stronger than me, and even though I have some nice strong tools that can lay some serious hurt on some of them (like the giant turtles..), its not worth the risk of getting killed/wasting my time to get a turtle shell when:
a. its seems to be a rare drop anyway b. the recipe calls for something else that I've never been able to acquire.
so yeah, don't waste your money on the book. The few gifts i've been able to make don't seem to be for your love interest, they seem to be gifts you make to give to your child when they're old enough. For instance, I made a Fan (like an oriental paper fan) which had the description "for girls that wan't to look mature" or something like that. I remembered both Uzuki and Annette mentioning something about wanting to be like other girls in town who are more sophisticated and mature, so i gave one of them the gift (can't remember who) and their response was "oh.... for me?.. Thanks, but it clashes with my outfit" It ws something along those lines, and didn't raise my LP with them, not sure if it lowered it though.
I would definately recommend you buy some books on accessories though. You can get some really nice items that boost your HP, ATK, DEF or even magical affinity. Some have other effects, like preventing status changes, but I prefer the stat boost instead. I will let you know now that some of these recipes do require a high skill level in crafting, but remember you can always craft an item of at least 20 levels higher than your current on, just don't expect to get a 'perfectly crafted' item out of it.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on September 26, 2009, 04:24:54 PM
I've got a couple more questions for you guys if you can be bothered.
1. What happens if you sleep in someone else's bed? I haven't tried it because I'm worried they'll be angry or something. 2. How do I get a hammer, axe, and shovel? I gotta clear out my field! 3. Is it possible to level up tools like you can in Harvest Moon?
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on September 26, 2009, 06:05:15 PM
I've got a couple more questions for you guys if you can be bothered.
1. What happens if you sleep in someone else's bed? I haven't tried it because I'm worried they'll be angry or something. 2. How do I get a hammer, axe, and shovel? I gotta clear out my field! 3. Is it possible to level up tools like you can in Harvest Moon?
1. Comic mischeif. As far as i can tell, there are no repercussions from this.. However there are only a few instances where the beds owner is actually in the room and will comment on you trying to sleep in the bed. I've only experienced it once and although the girl seemed angry, I don't believe any LP was lost.
2. Starter tools are recieved from various villagers so be sure to talk to everyone! There might be an order to getting them from the villagers, but you should be able to acquire all your basic tools* by the end of the first week.
*basic tools; axe, hammer, hoe, sickle, watering can
3. Yes but it works much differently. Simply using your equipment raises your skill level. Hammers and Axes have their on skill levels while your Hoe, Sickle and Watering Can are grouped into the Farming skill category. Raising skill levels means less RP consumption from your tools, but its still different then actually leveling up your tool.
To do that, you'll first have to acquire a forge from a traveling peddler who you'll meet eventually (hint: listen to the villagers! They'll tell you where and when he can be found). You'll also need a recipe book which can be acquired from a certain villager who forges professionaly. Once you have your forge and recipe book, you can forge new tools or simply level up your existing tools (if you have the right ingredients). Remember that eventually, scrap ironwill become your friend; a recipe of [Tool] + Scrap iron + Scrap Iron will level up your tool, but theres a bit of a catch here.
Forging, crafting, cooking and working in the lab all have a bit of a mini game that go with them. A gauge appears on screen with a marker that travels left to right, with 3 colored areas. Red = failure, Blue = sucess, Green = perfection. Until your skill in a particular feild rises (in this case, forging) the green areas might not be visible at all. Once your skill level goes up however, the green areas appear and become much easier to hit.
Things get more complicated later on though, when your tool levels are higher than 1. You have to remember that the level of your ingredients effects the outcome of the tool you're trying to craft. Here's an example:
-you have 1 Iron Hammer (lvl 1) and 2 Scrap Irons (lvl 1) -you forge it sucessfuly or perfectly for a lvl 3 Iron Hammer. Good right?
-you have 1 Iron Hammer (lvl 5) and 1 Scrap Iron (lvl 5) and 1 Scrap Iron (lvl 1) -you forge it sucessfuly or perfectly for a lvl 4 (or lower).. Iron hammer. Sucks don't it? But wait theres more!
-Take 1 Iron Hammer (lvl 5) and 2 Scrap Irons (lvl 6+) -Forge it PERFECTLY for a 1 lvl bonus, now you have an Iron Hammer (lvl 7)! SWEET, HUH? YOU BET YOUR ASS IT IS!
It sounds more complicated than it really is, just remember that when you want to level up your tools, or just create higher level items (be it tools, food or medicines), the higher the ingredient levels the better chance of a higher level item. Basically; you can polish a turd but its still a turd... unless you're using level 10 polish ;)
Hope that helps!
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on September 27, 2009, 11:01:58 AM
grr...
i'm on the last day of winter and i have a chance at finishing the storyline but i'm afriad of missing the first sunrise of the new year... then again i'd love to finish this damn storyline and be able to claim i did it all in the first year!
this boss isn't THAT hard... but he had this one ridiculous move where he killed me in one hit *sigh* here goes a second attempt..
mwahahaha SUCCESS! not only did i complete the main storyline on the last day of the new year, I made it home in time to do some last minute crop watering in my dungeons AND stayed up till 5am to watch the sunrise.. which was a lot more uneventful then the game made it seem :( Spring, here i come!
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: decoyman on September 28, 2009, 01:11:25 PM
Ok, bit the bullet and bought this from Amazon – free shipping, no tax, and a little cheaper than retail to boot, at $27.99.
Score! I'm a little concerned that it's going to eat up my free time, though... :P
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: vudu on September 28, 2009, 02:03:20 PM
This is why I like Little King's Story. I've stayed up for weeks at a time with no problems. ;D
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on September 28, 2009, 02:26:55 PM
Score! I'm a little concerned that it's going to eat up my free time, though... :P
It will.
Seriously. If you have any other games you're playing right now, you should finish them up before starting this one.
Anyways, thanks for the tips EasyCure, they helped me get what I need. I can't remember who gave me the sickle but as soon as I had it, guess who asked me to cut some grass? After chopping it all, and with the farmwork I'd done earlier, I didn't have any RP left so I had to wait until the next day to enter the Green Ruins that appeared. I actually think the dungeons can be kind of boring, since you have just one attack that you run around and hit enemies with, but fortunately all of the other stuff to do in the game keeps them from getting tedious.
I found the villagers who give me the axe and hammer, but then I find out I can't break stumps and stones until I get better equipment! Once the holiday rolled around I found that Lute guy and bought the forging set, and got myself some better tools! But you use a lot of RP using special attacks and you really have to chop away at those stumps, so it's still going to take a while to get rid of it all. Also... am I going crazy or do new stumps and rocks somehow appear each day?
Is there no shovel like I thought? For some reason I remember there being one in Harvest Moon, but the more I think about it, I think in that game you just dig with the hoe. I have noticed there's a fishing pole on the forge list though. I've been all around town and talked to every villager I could find (I usually try to talk to everyone every day too so I can increase friendship levels), but nobody has given me one. Can you tell me where I can get one from?
I'm glad the bathhouse opened up, I really needed that. I have so many crops that I usually end up using most of my RP points by simply watering them, so if I wanted to go explore a dungeon I'd have to forget about the field for that day.
I think I'll be at this game for a while, at least until a new game comes along. This game already means I've abandoned Little King's Story...
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on September 28, 2009, 09:01:28 PM
Score! I'm a little concerned that it's going to eat up my free time, though... :P
It will.
Seriously. If you have any other games you're playing right now, you should finish them up before starting this one.
Anyways, thanks for the tips EasyCure, they helped me get what I need. I can't remember who gave me the sickle but as soon as I had it, guess who asked me to cut some grass? After chopping it all, and with the farmwork I'd done earlier, I didn't have any RP left so I had to wait until the next day to enter the Green Ruins that appeared. I actually think the dungeons can be kind of boring, since you have just one attack that you run around and hit enemies with, but fortunately all of the other stuff to do in the game keeps them from getting tedious.
I found the villagers who give me the axe and hammer, but then I find out I can't break stumps and stones until I get better equipment! Once the holiday rolled around I found that Lute guy and bought the forging set, and got myself some better tools! But you use a lot of RP using special attacks and you really have to chop away at those stumps, so it's still going to take a while to get rid of it all. Also... am I going crazy or do new stumps and rocks somehow appear each day?
Is there no shovel like I thought? For some reason I remember there being one in Harvest Moon, but the more I think about it, I think in that game you just dig with the hoe. I have noticed there's a fishing pole on the forge list though. I've been all around town and talked to every villager I could find (I usually try to talk to everyone every day too so I can increase friendship levels), but nobody has given me one. Can you tell me where I can get one from?
I'm glad the bathhouse opened up, I really needed that. I have so many crops that I usually end up using most of my RP points by simply watering them, so if I wanted to go explore a dungeon I'd have to forget about the field for that day.
I think I'll be at this game for a while, at least until a new game comes along. This game already means I've abandoned Little King's Story...
You're welcome! I'm just glad you're enjoying the game. More people really should check out this game..
Anywho, heres more tips for ya, since you asked oh so nicely:
What exactly do you mean by one attack? Depending on the tool or weapon you're using, you have multiple means of attacking... All your weapons and tools have their advantages and disadvantages. Broadswords have a wide swing and swing quickly, but are weaker than 2-handed swords. Those are much stronger for higher attacks but much heavier so you swing slowly. Spears have awesome reach, etc etc.
New stumps, boulders, branches, rocks, grass (various colors) and weeds grow daily on untilled fields... a certain character also likes it when you till your frields (bonus LP)
Fishing pole? You get that from one of the villagers. Who? I won't tell you but heres a BIG hint.. You'll find them fiishing on nice sunny days. Who better to get fishing equipment from than the local fishing enthusiast!
Oh and you are correct, there is NO shovel in this game, just your hoe. However, unlike some harvest moons it doesn't behave like a shovel and when you till your field items like coins or power berries do not appear (in fact there are none of these items in the game at all).
RP issues? Well remember these two things:
1. If you think your tools use too much RP (whether its a standard or special attack), remember that leveling up your skill levels will mean a decrease in RP consumption. Want a REAL boost? Remember that indoors, time doesn't pass and when you wake up in the morning any RP and HP you lost the previous day will be regained.. *hint hint*
2. Be sure to head to your local library to learn about Runeys. They're those floating spirit things all over your farm and the rest of the village. Once you read up on them you'll learn why and how they grow in numbers, and that work differently inside dungeons than they do out in the wild.. *hint hint*
I'm curious, is there any way you can upload a picture of your farm in its current state? You say you have a lot of crops growing and that it uses up most of your RP after watering them daily, I just want to see exacly how much you have going on considering you still have so many stumps/boulders on your land.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 29, 2009, 12:22:44 PM
This game is full of cute and enriches my soul.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on September 29, 2009, 01:34:16 PM
I'm gonna post a picture of my farm once all my crops are fully grown this spring. That'll enrich your soul for sure. Then once Summer roles around again, at least half the girls in town will have brand new bathing suits to show off, thanks for yours truly ;)
Oh and a mini-update:
I mentioned earlier that I finished the main storyline (won't go in to details because of spoilers) AND got to finish off the rest of the day on new years eve, right? Right-o. I didn't mentioned, though, that once I got a certain character back in the game, that I was able to ask her back out an ANOTHER date to make up for the one i missed. WOO!
On top of that, i realized I could ask yet another girl on a date too.. however I didn't feel like asking her out and then have any potential drama because I asked two girls out on a date at once.. I don't' know how the system works.. if there's only one potential date per month/season or if any festival day can be a potential date day.. Next time I'll play I'll have to ask the second (or third!) girl out and see what happens. If i make a date with two girls on the same day.. well I'll just have to skip fwd in time until that day and see if i get any crazy Threes Company type shenanigans! If i do, I'll LOL then reset and play it safe. I don't feel like losing any LP.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on September 29, 2009, 07:47:02 PM
What exactly do you mean by one attack? Depending on the tool or weapon you're using, you have multiple means of attacking...
Yeah, the variety of weapons helps cut down on the monotony, but still, it basically consists of running up to the enemy, mashing the "A" button, and retreating before they attack back. I don't know, I guess it just isn't really my thing.
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a certain character also likes it when you till your fields (bonus LP)
Would that be Mist? She's the one who comes to visit every day, though she comes at 12:00 which is usually after I've done all of the farmwork. I don't have any spaces tilled other than the ones used for growing crops. I want the grasses to grow so I can use them in the alchemy lab to make potions and such.
Where does this fishing enthusiast appear? There are two spots I rarely visit, the beach and the lake, so it must be around there.
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remember that leveling up your skill levels will mean a decrease in RP consumption.
Does it really do that? Because I'm over level 20 in farming and the hoe has used 10 RP for as long as I can remember.
When I tried to read the books in the library my character says "I can't really read anything here". That weird girl recently came and destroyed the place, does that mean I can read the books now?
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I'm curious, is there any way you can upload a picture of your farm in its current state?
It'd have to be several pictures because the farmland doesn't fit on one screen. Can I just count the squares used for crops and tell you that number?
Is there any way to increase the max RP? To my disappointment, leveling up does only HP.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on September 30, 2009, 12:09:04 PM
What exactly do you mean by one attack? Depending on the tool or weapon you're using, you have multiple means of attacking...
Yeah, the variety of weapons helps cut down on the monotony, but still, it basically consists of running up to the enemy, mashing the "A" button, and retreating before they attack back. I don't know, I guess it just isn't really my thing.
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a certain character also likes it when you till your fields (bonus LP)
Would that be Mist? She's the one who comes to visit every day, though she comes at 12:00 which is usually after I've done all of the farmwork. I don't have any spaces tilled other than the ones used for growing crops. I want the grasses to grow so I can use them in the alchemy lab to make potions and such.
Where does this fishing enthusiast appear? There are two spots I rarely visit, the beach and the lake, so it must be around there.
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remember that leveling up your skill levels will mean a decrease in RP consumption.
Does it really do that? Because I'm over level 20 in farming and the hoe has used 10 RP for as long as I can remember.
When I tried to read the books in the library my character says "I can't really read anything here". That weird girl recently came and destroyed the place, does that mean I can read the books now?
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I'm curious, is there any way you can upload a picture of your farm in its current state?
It'd have to be several pictures because the farmland doesn't fit on one screen. Can I just count the squares used for crops and tell you that number?
Is there any way to increase the max RP? To my disappointment, leveling up does only HP.
Yes, Mist.
You're right, the fisherman does appear in those areas but she might also be closer than you think, as long as she's arrived in town!
Yes, the character that destroys the library means you can now read books, however you'll only have access to certain books at a time. For instance, if you step in to a dungeon for the first time, it'll unlock a book you can read about it. Until then, you'll get the same message from the main character. Also note that each book case has 4 books to read; I was under the impression that because I couldn't read most books that this was like every other game where you "check" something similar and get the saaaame message over and over. A horrible RPG cliche if you ask me.
I thought RP and HP increase when your character levels up...
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 30, 2009, 03:47:07 PM
RP is stuck at 500pts.
The big idea is to continue using your skills to upgrade their levels and incrementally reduce their consumption-per-use rating.
And THE effective way to benefit from continued skill usage is to farm inside the dungeons; the cultivated patches will produce those daily fuzzy floating RP-replenishing crystals, helping to offset the mass RP consumption by your other activities.
I've pretty much dedicated the 1st floor of the Green Ruins to that purpose, providing me enough crystals to replenish almost 2000 RP in a day. It's easy to take this "RP Farm" for granted.
(also fish and cook a lot so there's a never-ending supply of real-time RP-replenishing snacks)
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on September 30, 2009, 11:08:46 PM
As far as I can tell, raising the level of a skill only reduces the RP use of tools/weapons once you reach the required skill of said tool/weapon. The hoe has a required skill of 1 and has used 10 RP for as long as I can remember so I don't think it'll ever get any lower. I'm not sure if special attacks will use less RP on higher levels though.
My field has ten of the 9x9 squares of crops. That's ninety squares, meaning it takes 450 RP to water them all. Or it did until I forged the tin can, and with its special attack it now takes 300 RP total. The rest of the field is untilled because I want grass to grow for potions and such, and weeds are the backbone of my character's diet. By the way, I think it is funny how the watering can has a higher attack than a sword.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 30, 2009, 11:40:11 PM
"As far as I can tell, raising the level of a skill only reduces the RP use of tools/weapons once you reach the required skill of said tool/weapon. The hoe has a required skill of 1 and has used 10 RP for as long as I can remember so I don't think it'll ever get any lower."
The number displayed never changes, as it's simply the default consumption value. But as your particular skill level gets sufficiently higher, the reduced RP cost is noticeable, as the bar doesn't drop so quickly. If you want to numerically verify the reduction, look at your EXP/Status screen before and after using a skilled tool a few times in a row, and by arithmetic you'll see the RP discount. I wasn't convinced of it at first until did such a test; for instance, I started to notice 1-RP wasn't being consumed every 5 swings.
But really, producing fuzzy rune crystals inside dungeons is one of the most effective ways to maintain your daily RP.
"and weeds are the backbone of my character's diet"
=D
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: decoyman on October 01, 2009, 10:11:45 AM
I'm hoping my Super Saver shipping estimate is a dirty lie, and I get this game before the 9th. *fingerscrossed*
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on October 01, 2009, 11:18:35 AM
As far as I can tell, raising the level of a skill only reduces the RP use of tools/weapons once you reach the required skill of said tool/weapon. The hoe has a required skill of 1 and has used 10 RP for as long as I can remember so I don't think it'll ever get any lower. I'm not sure if special attacks will use less RP on higher levels though.
My field has ten of the 9x9 squares of crops. That's ninety squares, meaning it takes 450 RP to water them all. Or it did until I forged the tin can, and with its special attack it now takes 300 RP total. The rest of the field is untilled because I want grass to grow for potions and such, and weeds are the backbone of my character's diet. By the way, I think it is funny how the watering can has a higher attack than a sword.
Just listen to pro. And like he came out and said, and i alluded to (don't wanna ruin EVERYTHING in the game for you), farming in the dungeons makes rune crystals or whatever they're called appear and they replenish your RP. I know you've unlocked the Green Ruins already, so using those first two plots of land to grow turnips (fastest growing crop) will help you with a source of free RP replenishment. Whatever you do though, Don't pick the turnips (unless you're willing to constantly replant them) or else the rune crystals will dissapear. Later on, when your RP is maxed and your weapons consume less and less energy, you can swap out those turnips for a crop that you can re-harvest over and over. Currently I have strawberries and Cucumbers growing in that first room.
Have you been to the floating island yet?
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 01, 2009, 11:46:48 AM
I only started farming dungeons because Bill told me to long ago.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on October 01, 2009, 12:26:00 PM
I started doing it cuz I'm a man and I make my own decisions ;)
Also, it was just common sense. First floors are best for farming, everything else can just grow fodder to have a rune crystal farm and replenish when ya need to. Just wait till you're near the bottom of the Snow Ruins... wow.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on October 01, 2009, 05:00:52 PM
farming in the dungeons makes rune crystals or whatever they're called appear and they replenish your RP. I know you've unlocked the Green Ruins already, so using those first two plots of land to grow turnips (fastest growing crop) will help you with a source of free RP replenishment.
I'm not really sure what those are but I guess I'll have to figure it out. Once crops reach the point when they can be harvested, do you still have to water them every day to keep them from rotting?
You mean Whale Island? I actually discovered that first but didn't go in because there was a scary green goblin or something (actually it is because I didn't have a sword). Right now I've just planted the Moondrop seeds up there so we'll see what happens.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: decoyman on October 01, 2009, 05:40:35 PM
I'm hoping my Super Saver shipping estimate is a dirty lie, and I get this game before the 9th. *fingerscrossed*
I thought the estimate was 5-9 days? Besides, don't you still need to finish Little King's Story?
Super Saver Shipping IS 5-9 days, but that's business days, and doesn't count processing time. But yes, I do need to finish LKS... good call, maybe I'll get back to that tonight...
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on October 03, 2009, 12:38:32 AM
farming in the dungeons makes rune crystals or whatever they're called appear and they replenish your RP. I know you've unlocked the Green Ruins already, so using those first two plots of land to grow turnips (fastest growing crop) will help you with a source of free RP replenishment.
I'm not really sure what those are but I guess I'll have to figure it out. Once crops reach the point when they can be harvested, do you still have to water them every day to keep them from rotting?
You mean Whale Island? I actually discovered that first but didn't go in because there was a scary green goblin or something (actually it is because I didn't have a sword). Right now I've just planted the Moondrop seeds up there so we'll see what happens.
1. Runeys are the spirits that hover over the landscape in the overworld. They serve their purpose, albeit its a bit complicated. Eventually you'll recieve a "harvester" which you can use to move runeys around from area to area in order to make the land prosper. Prosperous lands make your crops grow faster. However, in the dungeons the Runeys collect into a big Rune Crystal once your crops are fully grown, which when touched will restore RP.
And no, once they're grown you can leave them be. However if its a fruit/veggie that can be reharvested over and over, once picked you DO have to water them. For instances, strawberries take X amount of days to grow, and you can harvest them every 2 days after.. as long as you water them again :P
2. Yes, Whale Island. You can probably defeat that lil green goblin with your watering can, believe it or not. Your "Farming" skill should be substantially higher than your weapons skill, so your attack with it will be pretty high. Good job on planting Moondrop seeds, those will be important later on... as long as you planted them in the right spot ;)
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on October 03, 2009, 01:06:25 AM
Yeah, I got the Harvester and created a balance of Runeys at my homestead like the book recommended. I think there are 29 of each there right now. Turnips still take four days so I guess there will need to be more before it has an effect. I planted the turnips in the Green Ruins as was suggested so I guess I'll see what happens.
Ha ha, I still think it is funny that the watering can has a higher attack than the sword. But at this time my weapons skill is higher than the farming skill so using the can now isn't better. Though it would still be funny to defeat enemies with a watering can.
That reminds me, I need to go back up there to water those flowers. The island wasn't there on the Holiday so I hope that didn't ruin them...
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on October 03, 2009, 01:46:46 AM
Yeah, I got the Harvester and created a balance of Runeys at my homestead like the book recommended. I think there are 29 of each there right now. Turnips still take four days so I guess there will need to be more before it has an effect. I planted the turnips in the Green Ruins as was suggested so I guess I'll see what happens.
Ha ha, I still think it is funny that the watering can has a higher attack than the sword. But at this time my weapons skill is higher than the farming skill so using the can now isn't better. Though it would still be funny to defeat enemies with a watering can.
That reminds me, I need to go back up there to water those flowers. The island wasn't there on the Holiday so I hope that didn't ruin them...
your land is prosperous when you check the map in the observatory (or with Candy) and the areas are gold in color.
Don't worry about your crops. Eventually you'll be able to get to the island on holidays, but again, your crops won't be harmed in anyway by not watering them for a day or two.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 12, 2009, 01:08:23 PM
It's been so long...
D=
I did some WiiFatting Plus over the weekend, but not much real gaming other than that for the past few weeks.
D=
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on October 12, 2009, 01:34:42 PM
I've gone back to farming on a few occasions but i've been waiting to update this thread until i have something great to show for it..
*waiting*
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on October 12, 2009, 06:54:47 PM
I've just moved into summer. The main character doesn't look so bad in swim trunks...
I've actually got a question about summer. Is there going to be a new ruins available soon? Because I have this feeling there's one for each season, but I've been searching all around everywhere and I haven't found anything or heard anything about another dungeon.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 12, 2009, 07:08:21 PM
Only as soon as you defeat the boss of Green Ruins will you see a hint around town.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on October 12, 2009, 07:10:23 PM
Only as soon as you defeat the boss of Green Ruins will you see a hint around town.
And even then you'll have to wait until a certain day in summer for something to appear (the hints Pro mentioned), then you must unlock them yourself by doing.. something!
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on October 12, 2009, 07:11:29 PM
I don't think I can do that yet. There are some rocks in the Green Ruins blocking some passageways which can't be broken with an iron hammer, and I haven't found the materials necessary to forge a better hammer. I don't know where to find them either but I guess I'll keep looking...
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on October 12, 2009, 07:15:19 PM
I don't think I can do that yet. There are some rocks in the Green Ruins blocking some passageways which can't be broken with an iron hammer, and I haven't found the materials necessary to forge a better hammer. I don't know where to find them either but I guess I'll keep looking...
Those boulders don't keep you from reaching the boss in the green ruins though...
Heres a hint, sorta:
When you first enter the green ruins, and move beyond the first set of vines, go to your right. Did you notice how those steps go all the way down to the last floor but after the first floor, you can't open the rest of the doors from the inside? Well if you got that last door (on the bottom floor) unlocked, then you've probably made my mistake and overlooked something...
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on October 12, 2009, 07:17:28 PM
Yeah, I have unlocked all of those doors. I was kind of wondering if I were missing something in that place because I thought it was strange that I'd need a better hammer in order to "beat" it. I'll have a closer look the next time I visit the place.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: decoyman on October 12, 2009, 07:52:01 PM
This game came in the mail the other day! I'm looking forward to trying it, but want to finish Little King's Story first. Gotta beat that piece of crap Long Sauvage next. What a jerk, him and his animatronic beard.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on October 12, 2009, 07:54:59 PM
Wow, that was some slow shipping. I got my Amazon order in 5 days.
You've reached the point of Little King's Story where I felt it started to drag on and become less inspired. But you should have only a couple of hours left if you don't get distracted by the side quests.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on October 13, 2009, 11:10:45 AM
Yeah, I have unlocked all of those doors. I was kind of wondering if I were missing something in that place because I thought it was strange that I'd need a better hammer in order to "beat" it. I'll have a closer look the next time I visit the place.
Be on the lookout for any suspicious alcoves that aren't really dead ends but GIANT FUCKING DOORS. I still don't know how i missed that one..
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 13, 2009, 12:17:48 PM
You're both not casual enough, thinking too hard and expecting some serious Boss Key puzzle.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on October 13, 2009, 12:21:49 PM
No i just expected something that looks like a door or some sort of lair, not a wall located off camera with pretty much the same textures as the rest of the dungeon.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 13, 2009, 12:24:27 PM
If you're an animal living inside a dungeon, do you want to be bothered?
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on October 13, 2009, 06:40:23 PM
Be on the lookout for any suspicious alcoves that aren't really dead ends but GIANT FUCKING DOORS. I still don't know how i missed that one..
Yes, yes, I found it last night. You're right, the door doesn't really look like a door, and when I'm carrying a weapon I don't always notice when the action icon changes to "look". But since you told me to look for something that's easy to miss I walked about the room without carrying anything. That giant chicken didn't stand a chance against my Fire Rod!
Thanks for telling me I missed something, I don't know if I ever would have figured that out otherwise.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 13, 2009, 06:46:09 PM
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on October 13, 2009, 06:51:06 PM
:D ;D
That was the perfect delivery on that one.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 14, 2009, 02:57:21 PM
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=100425
"A lot of publishers big and small are going through a challenging time right now, us included. But we're so small with more yearly releases than employees resulting in low fixed costs (and crazy working hours) that if we sell even a decent amount of units we'll be fine. Problem is that most new releases these days aren't meeting the publishers' sales expectations, but we still won't be going anywhere anytime soon."
KEEP HOPE ALIVE
"RFF sales have always been steady, even back when it was full price, but the problem these days is that it's such a challenging market out there that retailers will not restock any games unless the sales are exceptional, not just good, and that's only if they even brought in the title at all at launch. The end sales to the consumer has increased at the new $29.99 price, but retailers are still hesitant to bring in more copies even at the lower price so it makes it hard for the consumers to find it. Very different than how the market was 2 years ago, so pre-orders are more important now than ever (as you can probably guess from almost every single ad asking people to pre-order)."
MY HAURT GOES OUT TO THEM. One of the trends I've noticed at retailers is more games simply aren't being stocked, like they have no idea how to gage demand, especially if it's from a small publisher (but they surely carry a lot of CRAP from major publishers like Ubisoft). Like this Walmart never stocked No More Heroes, this Target never stocked The Conduit, and increasingly my local GameStop (a SPECIALTY store by comparison) conditionally stocks niche Wii titles based on pre-orders (if it's not kiddie/casual or by Nintendo, it's automatically niche); no pre-order? probably no stock on Day 1. This sucks.
No one here pre-ordered Overlord: Dark Legend, the store received only 1 copy, and turned it into the display copy. It wasn't tarnished at all, so I bought that one since it was already there.
No one here pre-ordered Cursed Mountain, and the store never stocked it. The clerk called up the store in the next town and found they had a copy, so he asked them to hold it for me and I bought it over there.
I pre-ordered Ju-On, so yesterday I witnessed the friendly manager open up his fresh UPS delivery, revealing 4 copies of Ju-On. Score.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on October 14, 2009, 03:06:09 PM
I order my games mostly on Amazon so I never have an issue with finding the hard to get titles.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 14, 2009, 03:11:49 PM
It's funny how ordering online supports XSEED yet still hurts their in-store business model, the one that counts on people passing by and noticing a game physically in front of them, and allows one to pay with cash instead of a card/bank transaction.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on October 14, 2009, 03:23:29 PM
Well, every time I've tried to buy an XSEED game in a real store, they haven't had it in stock. :/
I'll try to do it next time in a store before I order online.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on October 14, 2009, 05:58:49 PM
Every time I've tried to buy an XSEED game in a retail store, it was defective. :-\
It's kind of sad that retailers have more faith in the shovelware than higher-quality games. I bought this from Best Buy's website because it wasn't in stock in any of the Best Buy stores near me.
Unfortunately I don't think XSEED's games sell that well anyway. When I bought Little King's Story from GameStop the guy said that I was the first person to buy it, and that was three months after it was released.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on October 14, 2009, 08:02:36 PM
Yes, yes it was lol. Funny, cuz it was that sort of thinking that made me go into that battle with the fire rod in hand.
By the way, you can fight him more than once so feel free to go back, be warned though: The boss is harder the second time around. Once you're strong enought to take him out in a few hits (like me!) you can use his item drops to make some sweet crafts/tools. If you're lucky, you'll get some high level stuff too. Oh and there's a trick i've read about that lets you multiply certain items....
But i'll let you look it up if you wanna cheat.
@Pro's other post:
My heart goes out to them as well. Makes me want to go out and buy ever other RF title out there... too bad the only place i've seen the DS titles are at gamestop, ughhh.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on October 14, 2009, 11:38:38 PM
I'm not going to cheat, that's pointless.
I had my first storm today, it made my field a real mess. Like really, every square has a branch, rock, or stump. How did a storm bring in stumps? Completely illogical.
Would it have been not so bad if I actually had my field tilled?
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on October 14, 2009, 11:58:08 PM
I had my first storm today, it made my field a real mess. Like really, every square has a branch, rock, or stump. How did a storm bring in stumps? Completely illogical.
Would it have been not so bad if I actually had my field tilled?
Probably worse. Go back a few pages and see the lkast picture I posted
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: decoyman on October 15, 2009, 02:07:37 PM
Wow, guys... this is scary. This game has been sucking up my free time like mad. Video game crack, indeed.
I beat Little King's Story finally, so started in on this a few days ago. Unfortunately, I came down with a cold and was home from work, so was happy to have a new game to play. I popped it in to try it out... and played the whole day. I haven't done that in a looooong time. Fire Emblem GC maybe?
And now, I'm totally neglecting the mafia game because—you guessed it—I'm too busy playing RFF. That "just one more day" thing is nearly never-ending—scarves out of a magician's pocket, red to blue to yellow to green to purple, etc. At first it's almost daunting, the amount of things you can do... but I find myself easing into these various activities pretty comfortably. Someone will give me a book on cooking, so I'll try it out and realize that I get some real benefits with the results. I get bored with farming, so I go questing for awhile (and find how awesome, like everyone's saying, farming in the dungeons is). I get annoyed at the stumps in my field, encouraging me to learn how to forge to get a new hammer. It's really a great balance, just enough coaxing that I think I'm doing these things on my timetable, even if that's not quite the case.
So... wow, awesome game. Even though I'll likely be totally burnt out on gaming by the time I'm done with this game, I'm really enjoying the ride. <3
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 15, 2009, 02:32:01 PM
<3
The game has claimed another victim. Steady sales indeed.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on October 15, 2009, 07:22:22 PM
The game has claimed another victim. Steady sales indeed.
Bill was a martyr for this it seems, and you spread his words in his absence while I took heed and echoed your every sentiment so the masses could hear.
For once, this feels like an actual gaming community.
Now let us all do our RFF prayers.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on October 15, 2009, 07:28:58 PM
I just got a Lumber Axe so now I can clear out stumps in 3 strikes instead of 6. It's going to be a lot easier to clear the field now.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on October 15, 2009, 07:32:25 PM
I just got a Lumber Axe so now I can clear out stumps in 3 strikes instead of 6. It's going to be a lot easier to clear the field now.
Oh awesome, glad to hear there's hope. Right now it takes six special attacks or TWELVE normal attacks to clear a stump out... it is a pain, to say the least. DX
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on October 18, 2009, 02:07:09 PM
Right now it takes six special attacks or TWELVE normal attacks to clear a stump out... it is a pain, to say the least. DX
I didn't even know you could clear stumps with normal swings.
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That "just one more day" thing is nearly never-ending—
Yeah, you're likely not going to have enough time in one day to do everything you want, so you want to keep going. It's best to try to budget your time for what you do each day; pick a task or two that you'll focus on for that day and get it done.
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I get annoyed at the stumps in my field, encouraging me to learn how to forge to get a new hammer.
I think you may run into a problem if you try to clear stumps with a hammer. :P
Yeah, that's pretty much what mine looked like after the summer storm. And it really sucks, because it is difficult enough to gain money during the summer with how slowly the crops grow, I don't need something to come and destroy them.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: decoyman on October 20, 2009, 12:19:54 PM
I get annoyed at the stumps in my field, encouraging me to learn how to forge to get a new hammer.
I think you may run into a problem if you try to clear stumps with a hammer. :P
Ahahaha, RIGHT. :P
New News! I was harassed by the drunken innkeeper for not having a girlfriend to go with my on the boat race. :( Luckily, some spousal abuse took place soon after that which kept me safe from his hulking mass sinking my boat. :D
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on October 20, 2009, 12:27:38 PM
I need to level up my skills in crafting. I have made all 4 capes (wind, fire, water, earth) and want to make a black robe already! But i'm not at lvl 95 :(
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: decoyman on October 20, 2009, 04:07:46 PM
I need to level up my skills in crafting. I have made all 4 capes (wind, fire, water, earth) and want to make a black robe already! But i'm not at lvl 95 :(
Well, I had my first storm in the second week of summer. I wondered what was up, why it wasn't letting me go outside. So instead, I just crafted and crafted for as long as I could, interspersing with cooking for items to rebuild my RP. I went up almost 30 levels, which was pretty good, I thought. (of course, I was only at level 3 or 4 before that...)
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 20, 2009, 07:12:04 PM
AUGH I haven't touched this game. I miss my girls.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on October 20, 2009, 07:34:06 PM
AUGH I haven't touched this game. I miss my girls.
I know how you feel. I can't wait for the second summer to come by so i can check out the girls in their new bathing suits i've hand made for them. If i can somehow make it to craft level 99 from wherever i am now (50 something?) before summer i'll be able to check out the ladies in the AMAZING (TWO PEICE) SWIMSUITS!
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 20, 2009, 07:36:54 PM
That makes my carrots grow!
FROTHING DEMAND
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on October 20, 2009, 07:38:39 PM
I need to level up my skills in crafting. I have made all 4 capes (wind, fire, water, earth) and want to make a black robe already! But i'm not at lvl 95 :(
What skill are you at? I think you could do it if you're 20 levels under. There wouldn't be any green sections of course...
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on October 20, 2009, 07:55:17 PM
I need to level up my skills in crafting. I have made all 4 capes (wind, fire, water, earth) and want to make a black robe already! But i'm not at lvl 95 :(
What skill are you at? I think you could do it if you're 20 levels under. There wouldn't be any green sections of course...
Oh i know, but if i'm gonna gift my future bride, it's gonna be a high level item for HIGH LEVEL HAWTNESS. So i'll just wait till i'm at lvl 99 and have lvl 10 ingredients.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on October 20, 2009, 07:57:09 PM
Does the level of an item really have any effect when it's given as a gift?
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on October 20, 2009, 08:00:30 PM
Does the level of an item really have any effect when it's given as a gift?
No but it has an effect on my pride as a craftsmen.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: decoyman on October 26, 2009, 12:50:35 PM
Ok, so I was playing the other day, and it's summer, and all the girls in town were talking about seeing a ghost in town. I stayed up late and wandered till I passed out from fatigue, but never found anything.
Anyone have any idea what's up with that? Also, Lara will never, ever love me because I die all the time. :P
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: noname2200 on October 26, 2009, 04:28:07 PM
AUGH I haven't touched this game. I miss my girls.
I know how you feel. I can't wait for the second summer to come by so i can check out the girls in their new bathing suits i've hand made for them. If i can somehow make it to craft level 99 from wherever i am now (50 something?) before summer i'll be able to check out the ladies in the AMAZING (TWO PEICE) SWIMSUITS!
I may or may not have some bad news for you on that front...>_>
Ok, so I was playing the other day, and it's summer, and all the girls in town were talking about seeing a ghost in town. I stayed up late and wandered till I passed out from fatigue, but never found anything.
Anyone have any idea what's up with that? Also, Lara will never, ever love me because I die all the time. :P
Don't get too invested in that plotline, or waste your nights. Just keep talking to the folks, and eventually Lara will (anti-climatically) lay it out for you.
Man, I'm just peeing in everybody's Wheaties today, ain't I?
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on October 27, 2009, 05:40:18 PM
Good thing i don't eat wheaties!
I've been ignoring this thread and the game, and i miss them both. I have greatness to show off soon though... soon.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: decoyman on October 27, 2009, 06:18:43 PM
Don't get too invested in that plotline, or waste your nights. Just keep talking to the folks, and eventually Lara will (anti-climatically) lay it out for you.
Ah dang. That storyline appears to have just gone away on its own once fall arrived. Oh well. :P
Easycure, I'm beginning to see that you must've been really trucking to get to the point you were by the end of the first year... I'm not even close to going on a date with anyone yet, let alone multiple people. And I foolishly somehow let Bianca and Tabatha leave after summer! I even had the little elephant and everything... (yes, I read a FAQ after that little critter sitting in my barn for months and doing nothing, haha).I even talked to them quite a bit, but apparently not enough...
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on October 28, 2009, 11:18:36 AM
Don't get too invested in that plotline, or waste your nights. Just keep talking to the folks, and eventually Lara will (anti-climatically) lay it out for you.
Ah dang. That storyline appears to have just gone away on its own once fall arrived. Oh well. :P
Easycure, I'm beginning to see that you must've been really trucking to get to the point you were by the end of the first year... I'm not even close to going on a date with anyone yet, let alone multiple people. And I foolishly somehow let Bianca and Tabatha leave after summer! I even had the little elephant and everything... (yes, I read a FAQ after that little critter sitting in my barn for months and doing nothing, haha).I even talked to them quite a bit, but apparently not enough...
The storyline all but dissapeared after the first week for me :P It sets you up as chasing Mist to this new town then...???...Then she talks of dreams, then all of a sudden **** just happens and you're like "oh... ok then..?" but the few hints you're given to unfold the events that further along the story are so vague that i'm surprised I even got it to happen as fast as i did.
It's funny, i didn't think i was "trucking" at first but i guess you're right. Now that i've completed the main storyline I feel like there's not much to do but level up until I'm strong enough to take on the games last two bosses. I actually went on a date with Mist yesterday and will be asking out my next girl soon after, just not sure who... I can ask out Melody or Iris right now (i think thats about it, maybe annette?). However, now that i'm done with the storyline and feel it wont be cheating to read FAQ's, it looks like there's only ONE date per season so asking out all the girls will take some time... but i still wanna do it ;)
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: noname2200 on October 28, 2009, 03:23:51 PM
Don't get too invested in that plotline, or waste your nights. Just keep talking to the folks, and eventually Lara will (anti-climatically) lay it out for you.
Ah dang. That storyline appears to have just gone away on its own once fall arrived. Oh well. :P
Easycure, I'm beginning to see that you must've been really trucking to get to the point you were by the end of the first year... I'm not even close to going on a date with anyone yet, let alone multiple people. And I foolishly somehow let Bianca and Tabatha leave after summer! I even had the little elephant and everything... (yes, I read a FAQ after that little critter sitting in my barn for months and doing nothing, haha).I even talked to them quite a bit, but apparently not enough...
The storyline all but dissapeared after the first week for me :P It sets you up as chasing Mist to this new town then...???...Then she talks of dreams, then all of a sudden **** just happens and you're like "oh... ok then..?" but the few hints you're given to unfold the events that further along the story are so vague that i'm surprised I even got it to happen as fast as i did.
It's funny, i didn't think i was "trucking" at first but i guess you're right. Now that i've completed the main storyline I feel like there's not much to do but level up until I'm strong enough to take on the games last two bosses. I actually went on a date with Mist yesterday and will be asking out my next girl soon after, just not sure who... I can ask out Melody or Iris right now (i think thats about it, maybe annette?). However, now that i'm done with the storyline and feel it wont be cheating to read FAQ's, it looks like there's only ONE date per season so asking out all the girls will take some time... but i still wanna do it ;)
Ask multiple girls out. Nothing bad could possibly happen... ;)
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on October 28, 2009, 03:28:18 PM
Don't get too invested in that plotline, or waste your nights. Just keep talking to the folks, and eventually Lara will (anti-climatically) lay it out for you.
Ah dang. That storyline appears to have just gone away on its own once fall arrived. Oh well. :P
Easycure, I'm beginning to see that you must've been really trucking to get to the point you were by the end of the first year... I'm not even close to going on a date with anyone yet, let alone multiple people. And I foolishly somehow let Bianca and Tabatha leave after summer! I even had the little elephant and everything... (yes, I read a FAQ after that little critter sitting in my barn for months and doing nothing, haha).I even talked to them quite a bit, but apparently not enough...
The storyline all but dissapeared after the first week for me :P It sets you up as chasing Mist to this new town then...???...Then she talks of dreams, then all of a sudden **** just happens and you're like "oh... ok then..?" but the few hints you're given to unfold the events that further along the story are so vague that i'm surprised I even got it to happen as fast as i did.
It's funny, i didn't think i was "trucking" at first but i guess you're right. Now that i've completed the main storyline I feel like there's not much to do but level up until I'm strong enough to take on the games last two bosses. I actually went on a date with Mist yesterday and will be asking out my next girl soon after, just not sure who... I can ask out Melody or Iris right now (i think thats about it, maybe annette?). However, now that i'm done with the storyline and feel it wont be cheating to read FAQ's, it looks like there's only ONE date per season so asking out all the girls will take some time... but i still wanna do it ;)
Ask multiple girls out. Nothing bad could possibly happen... ;)
Hahahaha NO!
It's bad enough I tried to change into my swimsuit once in the summer and FOUR different girls were in there at the same time. So much LP lost...
/cry
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on October 28, 2009, 06:18:11 PM
Oh dirty floors am I in trouble now.
I recently realized the importance of the Runeys. I didn't know that they were anything which would have any affects on anything, or that they were something I needed to babysit. It was the middle of Autumn, so they were all dead. DEAD. I wondered why my summer crops weren't growing as fast as they said they would...
I'm not really sure what to do now. I've consulted a FAQ on GameFAQs on how to manage Runeys, but it assumes I actually have some to work with. I had an abundance of Tree and Water Runeys which isn't going to do any good. Rock Runeys are pretty gone everywhere except my homestead. So, I've just placed a few Water and Tree Runeys in each area to get my crops to grow, then leave the fully-grown crops in the ground so they spawn Runeys. The Water and Tree ones aren't going to survive but there wasn't much I could do about that. I've stockpiled the Runeys on my land, and then on the 30th I distributed one of each type to each area. For the first week of each month, one of each type will appear in each area as long as there's at least one.
That's where I am now. I'm not sure what I'm going to do once the food chain takes effect. There aren't enough in each area for them to survive the rest of the month, and without being able to grow crops, very few new ones will appear on my land.
This whole aspect is actually pretty annoying. It's just tedious to do and doesn't feel like accomplishing anything. There's enough to do in this game without something silly like this.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 28, 2009, 07:50:04 PM
I don't think they're that critical. Having a balance within a town section is important if you're going to farm the dungeon there, but the fact is the homestead is a safe motherland for growing new runeys as long as it's continuously cultivated. Having runeys everywhere, from my understanding, is NOT critical; what's important is to have the runeys balanced within a single town section that you intend to farm (ex: Mist's House area affects crops in Green Ruins).
Summer crops take ridiculously long to grow, and they're easy to lose track of when you deviate from your daily routine; it's too easy to neglect crops for a day and make growth rates seem longer than you expect.
Once Winter rolls around and your farm can't grow anything, then your Homestead runeys will start to take a hit, and you should be prepared to grow crops elsewhere anyway. Or FISH! Runeys don't affect FISH! When Spring arrives, you can try to repair the ecosystem then.
The benefits of having an abundance of runeys are creating Miracles and forming Rune Stones.
Only my Homestead and Mist's House are being maintained. The lake has a bunch of Water Runeys, and the Mountain Road has a bunch of Tree Runeys, cuz that's how nature happened. Everything else is Zombieland. If I chose to redistribute my Homestead Runeys, I just leave about 10 of each behind, then start dropping Runeys elsewhere based on where their population growth is favorable.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: noname2200 on October 28, 2009, 08:44:31 PM
I don't think they're that critical. Having a balance within a town section is important if you're going to farm the dungeon there, but the fact is the homestead is a safe motherland for growing new runeys as long as it's continuously cultivated. Having runeys everywhere, from my understanding, is NOT critical; what's important is to have the runeys balanced within a single town section that you intend to farm (ex: Mist's House area affects crops in Green Ruins).
Summer crops take ridiculously long to grow, and they're easy to lose track of when you deviate from your daily routine; it's too easy to neglect crops for a day and make growth rates seem longer than you expect.
Once Winter rolls around and your farm can't grow anything, then your Homestead runeys will start to take a hit, and you should be prepared to grow crops elsewhere anyway. Or FISH! Runeys don't affect FISH! When Spring arrives, you can try to repair the ecosystem then.
The benefits of having an abundance of runeys are creating Miracles and forming Rune Stones.
Only my Homestead and Mist's House are being maintained. The lake has a bunch of Water Runeys, and the Mountain Road has a bunch of Tree Runeys, cuz that's how nature happened. Everything else is Zombieland. If I chose to redistribute my Homestead Runeys, I just leave about 10 of each behind, then start dropping Runeys elsewhere based on where their population growth is favorable.
Actually, it's the other way around: the runeys for a particular zone are irrelevant: it's the aggregate that matters. Your farm can be barren, but as long as the other zones are in prosperity, you take advantage of the prosperity rules.
So yes, Mop_it_up, you ARE in trouble.
Fortunately, there are a few things you can do to fix this. First, take advantage of your farm being a free zone, so as to grow more runeys. Second, remember that any 3x3 plot ON YOUR FARM that you don't harvest creates an extra runey at the end of the day (unharvested plots in dungeons only create Rune Spirits, which you don't care about right now). Third, remember that the first eight days of each month are "free" days, where runeys don't kill each other; in fact, you GAIN one of each runey in a zone.
So STOP HARVESTING IMMEDIATELY. Let your farm produce runeys. Hold onto rock and grass runeys for the rest of the month. In the meantime, move one (and only one) tree or water runey into any zone that is in runey extinction (this prevents the penalty on growing crops: one of any runey is enough to avoid the penalty. But remember to replenish each zone ASAP!).
On the last day of the month, harvest all but one of the rock and grass runeys on your farm. On the first day of the next month, move ONE rock and ONE grass runey to as many different zones as you can. This is so you can take advantage of the "one new runey a day" rule. At the end of the eigth day, harvest all your grass runeys from all but one zone. Start a grass factory per Gamefaqs' suggestion (preferably in Mist's zone) to increase your Grass supply, and nurse the factory as needed. Remember to keep an eye on the other zones, and make sure to replenish one random runey in any zone that goes into extinction.
Rock Runeys are trickier: I advise harvesting all of them until you have a decent supply of grass runeys beyond what you need for your factory. Pick a Rock-friendly zone (I like the Town Square). If possible, get it into prosperity by adding 35 of each type, and replenish the two lost grass everyday (while harvesting some of the other three types).
If you can't reach prosperity, dump as many grass as you can afford, an equal number of tree, as many rock as you can, and a handful of water runeys into the zone, and keep a very close eye on the runey balance. You'll probably need to trim the water supply, while replenishing the grass.
Alternatively, you could harvest all your runeys after the 8th of Winter, then take advantage of the 8-day rule come Spring. That should give you a running start for that month, with the only cost being that your crops in the dungeons will grow pretty slowly.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 28, 2009, 10:21:28 PM
At least someone around here is a bonafide Runey Biologist.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on October 29, 2009, 09:42:04 AM
At least someone around here is a bonafide Runey Biologist.
Seriously.
I'm never going to go that in depth with runey distribution, ever.
Oh and Mop_it_up, here's another peice of advice if you do want to manage runeys better; rain and snow cause an increas in Water Runey's so be sure to balance things appropriately.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: noname2200 on October 29, 2009, 07:57:44 PM
Me and Kanno, we like 'dis.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on October 29, 2009, 08:13:25 PM
Like I said, I've consulted a FAQ on GameFAQs so I know what to do. I'd just rather not have to do it because it's stupid.
I don't really need money right now so I'm not growing any crops in dungeons. I'm using the winter month to stockpile Runeys and prepare for spring. I've distributed one of each type of Runey to each section for the first week to take advantage of the early-month bonus, and once that ends I'm going to gather them all up and stash them until spring. Though I might take some out and try to get the 20-Runey bonus on the 20th. After that, I'm going to only do the minimal effort to keep each area alive throughout the month, and not worry about getting areas into prosperity or any such nonsense.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on October 30, 2009, 10:59:12 AM
I'm trying to create some balance but i'm not going for perfection. I figure i'll get things at a decent balance by the end of summer (i'm in mid-spring now) and just start breeding some monster babies with my runeys during Fall and use them for some extra income in Winter.. not that i need the $ since there's nothing else I can buy (besides the last barn upgrade.. until i get married.. which looks like it won't be awhile since i'd like to take each girl in town on at least one date).
Ahh.. the good life.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on November 08, 2009, 03:27:29 PM
I believe the last day I played was the seventh of winter. I spent the day going around collecting all the Runeys from each area so I can save them for spring when I actually need them. I don't have any crops growing in dungeons and I don't need to get any more money as there isn't really anything to buy right now.
It wasn't that long ago that I unlocked the Snow Ruins but I can't get very far in it because the enemies deal a lot of damage. I crafted a Water Cape so that the ice monsters aren't so painful, but I could use more. I think I also have a Feather Hat, Silver Ring, and... something else, I don't remember. What materials are available to me to craft better armour?
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on November 08, 2009, 03:49:47 PM
I believe the last day I played was the seventh of winter. I spent the day going around collecting all the Runeys from each area so I can save them for spring when I actually need them. I don't have any crops growing in dungeons and I don't need to get any more money as there isn't really anything to buy right now.
It wasn't that long ago that I unlocked the Snow Ruins but I can't get very far in it because the enemies deal a lot of damage. I crafted a Water Cape so that the ice monsters aren't so painful, but I could use more. I think I also have a Feather Hat, Silver Ring, and... something else, I don't remember. What materials are available to me to craft better armour?
The water cape is a good start. Definately bring in a fire sabre as well, the higher level the better. If you really want to make some good armour, run past as many enemies as you can and hope you make it to the third floor, because that is the earliest you can find PLATINUM! Of course, the chances are better if you delve deeper into the snow ruins, but if you're lucky enough you'll get a peice of platinum or two.
I suggest bringing in a monster with you if you plan to do that, my animal of choice is the silver wolf (and it should be yours two unless you managed to capture something stronger/faster). I really hope you've befriended one of these already because if you took it out often enough and raised its friendship level, it should be strong enough to help you take out some enemies, and its speed helps avoid being attacked if you're careful enough. Oh and best of all, it kinda acts like the teddy bears do in EarthBound where it'll take damage while you're on it but YOU won't. actually, it's been awhile since i took my silver wolf out so i'm just assuming here becuase it always ends up takin more damage than me and returning to the barn before I ever get close to fainting.
so yeah, there's a few tips for ya but the best tip of all is...
LEVEL UP! You can make it to the last floor of the dungeon (theres a lot of them..) like i did at a mere level 40 something (currently at 55) but don't expect to be able to take down the boss. That giant scary thing :-P is at around level 80. I attempted to fight it once, when i was around level 50 or so and used one of my strongest weapons against it and the damage to it was so minimal that its health gauge didn't change at all.
good luck!
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on November 08, 2009, 04:00:05 PM
Definately bring in a fire sabre as well, the higher level the better.
I have the Flame Axe, is that good enough or is the sword better? I have all of the weapon books currently available so I can make a lot of stuff... if I can find the right materials.
I have some gold material, is there something useful I can make with it?
Definately bring in a fire sabre as well, the higher level the better.
I have the Flame Axe, is that good enough or is the sword better? I have all of the weapon books currently available so I can make a lot of stuff... if I can find the right materials.
I have some gold material, is there something useful I can make with it?
I suggest bringing in a monster with you if you plan to do that
You can take monsters with you? I haven't caught any yet so I don't know what all could be done with them.
I don't know what level I'm at, I think somewhere in the forties. I'll have to check.
I'll be honest, I haven't crafted the fire axe so i'm not sure. I believe it has a high attack power rating so it might be good, however I prefer the blades for the wider attack range. Does a regular attack from the Flame Axe break the glaciers that block your path? If not, then its not worth it since traversing the dungeon at your level without getting killed will require some speed (hence the monster tip, more on that later). The flame saber, although a little slow, has a wide swing so you can position yourself to swing so that you not only break a glacier but attack an incoming enemy and keep them at bay. Little strategies like that will help you survive.
Also, i know you're not farming in the dungeons but have you thought of growing at least grass? You can use the rune crystals to replenish your RP, letting you use more special attacks, letting you take down enemies quicker, letting you level up faster.
As for gold.. I honestly don't remember what sort of items you can craft from it, so spend some time checking your recipes and figuring out what you can make from it. Visit the lava ruins often to stock on on higher level gold (i believe special attacks from your hammer raise the probobility of a higher level item drop) and do yourself a favor; before you craft anything, be sure to check the levels of all your other ingredients! There's no point in crafting something with a lvl 9 peice of gold if everything else is at lvl 1.
Yes, you can take monsters out with you. I wouldn't advise capturing anything now, while you're in winter, unless you happened to grow a lot of grass during spring/summer or can afford feed from Eric's shop. Monsters get fed automatically as long as they have fodder (ie cut grass) but every day they don't get feed, their friendship with you lowers. Taking them outside with you and visiting certain parts of towns, or dungeons, helps raise their friendship level with you. The higher the friendship level, the better they are all around:
they work more efficiently in your feilds, they supply you with better produce (buffamoos give milk, woolys give wool, etc), or they're hp/atk/def levels go up (i think..).
Any more info i can give to you?
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on November 08, 2009, 04:46:34 PM
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Does a regular attack from the Flame Axe break the glaciers that block your path?
Yes. And a single special attack takes out most of the enemies in the Snow Ruins. I could always forge the Fire Sabre and test it out, it is good to have options. Though my Weapons level isn't all that high since I've used mostly axes and hammers. The Schnabel or whatever the poison hammer is called was my weapon of choice before forging the Flame Axe.
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Also, i know you're not farming in the dungeons but have you thought of growing at least grass?
You mean growing that in the Snow Ruins? That would take some real work, but I guess it's probably a good idea. I've just been using fish dishes but that takes up more inventory slots and also takes time to prepare. I have turnips in the Green Ruins so I can replenish RP without needing the bath, since I usually do that later in the day to have energy for forging and all of that stuff in the house.
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Visit the lava ruins often to stock on on higher level gold (i believe special attacks from your hammer raise the probobility of a higher level item drop)
Can you find gold in the Lava Ruins? The only gold I found there was from defeating the boss, but since it is more difficult the second time I haven't wanted to try that again. I didn't know about the special attack thing though.
I think the reason I didn't use the gold for anything yet is because the stuff that needs it also uses other materials that I don't know where to find.
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unless you happened to grow a lot of grass during spring/summer
I grew some in Autumn as an easy way to sprout Runeys, but I don't know how much I ended up cutting.
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Any more info i can give to you?
Not right now, thanks. Though when I play it again I might think of something.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on November 08, 2009, 05:06:02 PM
- Good to know about the flame sabre. The poison spear is a pretty good weapon, i used it plenty in the Lava Ruins when i was under leveled. It's range and poison attack came in handy there.
- Yes, growing grass in the snow ruins. How did i forgett about Autumn? lol Anyway, there's a good place to grow grass right there on the first floor, and even if you have some turnips in another ruin, havin some crystals available right there in the snow ruins will be a big help.
- Did you mean "can you ONLY find gold in the lava ruins?"? If that was the question, the answer is no. They can be found elsewhere. I think once you acquire a peice, it can be found everywhere else just not as frequ ently. For instance, once i was able to get some silver in the later part of the green ruin, it started showing up earlier in the dungeon as well as some parts of Whale Island, just not as frequently as i could get it in the gree/lava ruins. Your safest bet for gold would be the lower floors of the Lava ruin though, for now at least.
- You can check how much feed you have by just walking up to your barn and reading the little sign next to the entrance. It might even show up in one of your menus.
- glad i could help.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on November 08, 2009, 05:28:07 PM
So my package arrived including this game. Going to try it Monday or Tuesday. I'm excited to try a new Harvest Moon game. FarmVille on Facebook is nice and all, but I crave a true farming sim.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on November 08, 2009, 10:54:40 PM
- Did you mean "can you ONLY find gold in the lava ruins?"?
No, I was asking if gold could be found in the Lava Ruins. As I said, the only gold I found there was from defeating the boss. I guess I'll look again.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on November 09, 2009, 06:32:44 PM
gold should be relatively easy to find (now that you've acquired it) anywhere from BF3 to the very bottom of the dungeon. You can use the warp to the last floor and break the rocks there for gold. If you don't get some right away, exit the dungeon and re-enter.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on November 19, 2009, 09:30:01 PM
Uh oh. This game has been put back into its case, and is no longer sitting on top of the Wii. That's usually the "kiss of death" insofar as not finishing a game is concerned. I hope I pick it back up sometime, but I don't even remember what I was working on.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 19, 2009, 09:48:03 PM
You were farming. Get back to it.
NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP
NEVER GONNA LET YOU DOWN
NEVER GONNA RUN AROUND AND DESERT YOU~~~
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on November 19, 2009, 09:50:19 PM
I couldn't have been farming because it's winter and I don't farm in dungeons either.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: SilverGrey on November 19, 2009, 09:53:02 PM
I just wanted to say thank you to the posters in this thread. I'd never heard of this game before reading about it here, and it sounded like something I'd really like so I went out and picked up the only copy of it I could find. I am having a wonderful time with it! The suggestions in this thread have been excellent. I've had it for a while now, but the forum wouldn't let me join, so this is a belated thank you for an excellent game suggestion.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on November 19, 2009, 09:58:52 PM
I'm the same way myself, this thread is the reason I bought the game. The single best piece of advice: don't ignore the Runeys!
And welcome by the way, I hope you stick around.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on November 20, 2009, 03:25:15 AM
I died about 10 minutes into the game so I'm starting over... :-[
Using a hoe to fight monsters doesn't seem to be terribly effective.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 20, 2009, 09:57:42 AM
Hay even I survived my first fights using the Hoe.
Your mistake was not eating WEEDS to heal yourself when things got hairy.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on November 20, 2009, 04:26:24 PM
Hay even I survived my first fights using the Hoe.
Your mistake was not eating WEEDS to heal yourself when things got hairy.
I killed several monster successfully and ate all of my weeds to heal. I then got cocky and kept going into the dungeon (the floating whale one) and got killed farther in.
Your mistake was not eating WEEDS to heal yourself when things got hairy.
This. Weeds are the backbone of my character's diet.
I hadn't found the blacksmith yet, apparently. I was just wandering around exploring and stumbled upon the path to the floating whale island and decided to check it out.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: SilverGrey on November 20, 2009, 04:52:03 PM
I had the same problem, I kept trying to explore the cave and wasn't careful about how much I could handle. I actually only got a sword near the end of Spring, I just used whatever farming implement struck my fancy that day.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on November 20, 2009, 04:54:08 PM
I like using the farming implements. Makes me feel a bit like a peasant trying to revolt against my evil baron. :)
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: SilverGrey on November 20, 2009, 04:55:47 PM
Wow, clever, I just didn't know the blacksmith sold swords. Now that I have a sword I still rather prefer my farm tools; comfort in familiarity.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on November 20, 2009, 05:05:24 PM
Wow, clever, I just didn't know the blacksmith sold swords. Now that I have a sword I still rather prefer my farm tools; comfort in familiarity.
Plus fighting with them levels them up faster.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: SilverGrey on November 20, 2009, 05:09:13 PM
Oh that's true as well, I just never think about it that way. I guess I'm not looking ahead terribly well....
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on November 20, 2009, 05:14:11 PM
I just think like that. I'm sure there are benefits for using swords over your hoes and such in the game.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on November 20, 2009, 05:15:15 PM
Yeah, but if you fight with your farming tools now, by the time you need a real weapon you'll have a really low Weapons level and won't be able to use the strong swords.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: SilverGrey on November 20, 2009, 05:19:10 PM
I am using the sword more now than I was, I'm not a huge fan of it but it's a necessary evil I'm sure. Certainly in the Green Ruins (which I only recently found, everyone on this thread kept mentioning them and I wandered all over the place looking, not my brightest moment) I find the a sword to be a major asset.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on November 20, 2009, 05:26:15 PM
Well, if you don't like swords, then you can use a spear. That's what I used as my first weapon. You can also use a hammer or an axe, once you have the ability to forge them. Currently I'm actually using an axe, because of its power, and it isn't quite as slow as a hammer. I've just got to not miss... >_<
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on November 20, 2009, 06:07:52 PM
I love spears. Can you get them right off the bat?
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on November 20, 2009, 06:11:40 PM
I'm pretty sure you can buy one from the blacksmith. If not, it's one of the things you can forge when you first get the forging equipment.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on November 21, 2009, 02:05:03 AM
i miss this game :(
you're all weaklings, real players use only the watering can in dungeons!
I'm so glad Pro updated this thread the way he did.. it got me to buy the game, which made Mop_it_up buy the game, which made Drew_MG buy the game, which made Stratos buy the game and now Silvergrey!!
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: SilverGrey on November 21, 2009, 02:45:29 AM
Glad I'm making people happy, although I'm probably somewhere in the middle of that group, the site really wouldn't let me join the forum for a while. I'd never considered a spear, I should check that out, maybe that would suit my style better. Someday I need to figure out if my monsters in my barn are going to starve because I've never fed them. I'm a horrible monster-keeper.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on November 21, 2009, 05:58:50 AM
Glad I'm making people happy, although I'm probably somewhere in the middle of that group, the site really wouldn't let me join the forum for a while. I'd never considered a spear, I should check that out, maybe that would suit my style better. Someday I need to figure out if my monsters in my barn are going to starve because I've never fed them. I'm a horrible monster-keeper.
I hope you don't play Pokemon or I might have to call Officer Jenny to confiscate your monsters due to suspicion of abuse and neglect ;)
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on November 21, 2009, 01:55:13 PM
Silver', you don't have to feed them directly. Just keep the barn stocke with fodder and you're good, they eat on their own!
get fodder by mowing your grass... but don't cut it too early! wait till its tall enough that it covers your characters boots
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: SilverGrey on November 21, 2009, 02:08:46 PM
Wow, an automated feeding system. I like it! So much easier than Harvest Moon. All my animals were mad at me on that farm too. Through video games I have discovered that my future career should not lie in farming. I quite like animals though, ask any of the animals in my World of Zoo....zoo (awkward phrase) because they are all very happy with me. My monsters seem alright despite not having been fed (directly or indirectly) I brush them every day and they seem happy. They won't do any of their jobs though, which is fine because I can take care of things on my own for now. So I effectively have monster squatters on my land since they don't do anything. One of them is supposed to gather rocks and I hope it later becomes apparent of what use that is supposed to be. Does he really bring rocks? And one of the other monsters seems to have no use whatsoever, so I feel bad for him (it?). Okay, I think I'm finished psychoanalyzing my monster population for now, except for the little purple elephant that doesn't seem to want to live with the rest of the monsters, were they mean to him or something? Now I have monster thugs?
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on November 21, 2009, 02:18:11 PM
all monsters start off as thugs, and its your job to help them thru your half-way house you call a barn.
and yes, the automated feeding system does wonders in this game! Don't worry about the monsters not doing their jobs, they'll come around. you just have to raise their friendship points before they help you out on the farm; sort of like when catching higher level pokemon, they wouldn't listen to your commands, just.. worse cuz they do NOTHING but eat your food.
as for the purple elephant.. well... i'd hate to break this to you but you must be drunk cuz there's no such thing :P
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: SilverGrey on November 21, 2009, 02:45:28 PM
If I were drunk I'd be seeing Pink Elephants, not purple ones. Disney even wrote a whole song about it! You learn a lot from watching Dumbo....
And man pokemon sound like ornery little buggers the way you describe them, maybe that's why I never learned how to play. Someone tried to teach me once and it reminded me too much of the time someone else tried to teach me how to play Magic. I've since learned to be cautious if someone starts out by saying 'oh let me teach you how to play! It's so easy!'
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 21, 2009, 07:37:13 PM
I'm playing this game at the BEST pace.
I bought the game in Spring, it starts off in Spring. I last left off just before in-game Winter, and now it's practically Winter! There's so much to not do!
EAT YOUR HEART OUT, CASUAL CROSSING.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on November 21, 2009, 11:07:48 PM
I should maybe get into that whole raising of animals thing but there has always been something else I wanted to do so I never got around to it.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on November 22, 2009, 12:46:57 AM
When does the blacksmith open up? I want to buy a real weapon but they are still closed on day two.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on November 22, 2009, 01:09:29 AM
I think that there is a little series of events which you must do before it opens. Just keep talking with everyone that you meet.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on November 22, 2009, 01:35:18 AM
I think that there is a little series of events which you must do before it opens. Just keep talking with everyone that you meet.
I guess I should explore the town more. After I found the first dungeon by accident I've thought of nothing but going in there and hunting monsters.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on November 22, 2009, 04:27:52 PM
the shop should be available once t he character is, during that first day where the old women has you running errands. after that, show up after 9am and she should be available to purchase **** from.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on November 22, 2009, 04:52:11 PM
I just figured out the errand chain so I dumped all of my initial money of a Spear. I like the range on them because I can keep enemies from getting close to me.
I got the Cheap Hammer but it won't let me destroy the rocks on my field. Do I need a shovel or something? Rather frustrating I can only fit a few 3x3 plots on my field because of all the debris and rocks that I cannot move.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: SilverGrey on November 22, 2009, 04:56:23 PM
The Cheap Hammer is no use on big rocks, as far as I'm aware. You need a better hammer.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on November 22, 2009, 04:59:11 PM
Really? It worked on the rocks in the Whale Island dungeon to get iron and those rocks were bigger than the ones on my farm. Where do I get this 'better hammer'?
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: SilverGrey on November 22, 2009, 05:02:09 PM
You need to forge it when you purchase a forge. And you then use the raw materials you got out of the rocks on Whale Island to upgrade your current Hammer.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on November 22, 2009, 05:02:46 PM
The big rocks on Whale Island have various fractures in them so they are weak and brittle, the rocks on your field are solid so they need a stronger hammer. You'll need to get the forging equipment, and then you can upgrade your cheap hammer which will allow you to break the rocks with a special attack. You'll need the second upgrade before you can break the boulders.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on November 22, 2009, 05:41:47 PM
awww.. its so cute how the information i've given you all in the past is being passed down to a new member of the cult...
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on November 22, 2009, 09:12:05 PM
I think that EasyCure should get a cut of the profits of this game since he has helped sell it.
Speaking of, has there been any word of a Europe release? Somebody I talk to on another forum would like to know.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on November 22, 2009, 09:35:33 PM
nah, marvelous needs all the money it can get!
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 23, 2009, 12:32:50 AM
I think that EasyCure should get a cut of the profits of this game since he has helped sell it.
Speaking of, has there been any word of a Europe release? Somebody I talk to on another forum would like to know.
Nothing solid but it is expected Febuary 26th 2010. It got pushed back before so I'm not sure if that date will stick.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on November 23, 2009, 03:59:56 AM
We should get someone like Greg on staff to do a staff blog about his adventures when it comes out.
So how do you all recommend making money since half my field is no good for crops at the moment? Or is that what the plots in the dungeon are for?
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on November 23, 2009, 05:49:18 PM
Just try to best utilize the space you have available. Growing crops in dungeons takes a bit more time that you should probably be using for other things.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 23, 2009, 06:01:27 PM
Grow your important, cheap-to-maintain crops like Strawberries in those first few patches inside Green Ruins. It'll never suffer due to weather/seasons, and it's generally closer to a water source than the perceived majority of your farmland. Plus, you can treat the rest of the floor as a farm for RP-repleninishing Rune Crystals that you can run to quickly.
Running your ass to the Bathhouse as your primary refill location can use up precious time.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on November 23, 2009, 06:04:26 PM
if you're desperate enough you can pound away at the trees on the mountain as well as the ones near the lake to harvest some fruit and sell but.. you'll just be wasting RP that way.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on November 23, 2009, 07:28:22 PM
Where are these RP replenishing crystals? I've never seen one.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: SilverGrey on November 23, 2009, 07:29:59 PM
Where are these RP replenishing crystals? I've never seen one.
You get them when you grow crops in dungeons, they're white glowing orbs that hang over the fully-grown crop. You would get them in your fields on your farm too but outside of caves Rune Crystals become Runeys instead.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on November 23, 2009, 07:32:30 PM
Do the crops ever die or can I just leave them there fully grown to get the crystals?
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: SilverGrey on November 23, 2009, 07:42:26 PM
As nearly as I can tell from my own experience, you can just leave them there. Perhaps someone who's further into the game can weigh in with a different experience, but I have several plots that I just have stuff sitting on doing nothing.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on November 23, 2009, 07:46:22 PM
SG's right; they don't die, ever. I have plots of turnips in Whale Island from my first trip there, and i'm in the second spring. the rune crystals appear every day as long as the crops are intact. also, you won't have to worry about blizzards or storms killing them inside the dungeons.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on November 23, 2009, 08:29:04 PM
Would crops wither if you don't water them before they are fully grown? I don't know what it means when a crop is described as "takes some care to grow". Does that just mean that you can't miss a day of watering, or do you have to do something special with them?
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Spinnzilla on November 23, 2009, 08:40:37 PM
Has anyone here played the new Harvest Moon?
My girlfriend says it's the best one in quite a while.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: SilverGrey on November 23, 2009, 09:25:15 PM
I'm having an exciting Rune Factory day. I bought a spear, found new stuff in the Green Ruins, and my monsters decided that they should start doing their jobs. I guess that whole feeding them thing does wonders for their opinion of me. Can I get some Runey help though? On the distribution map, what should the pie chart look like for the 4 colors of Runeys? Should they each be a quarter of the pie?
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on November 23, 2009, 11:10:12 PM
I'm still trying to figure out the best way to handle Runeys myself, so I can't be of much help. Here's the guide I've been looking at:
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: SilverGrey on November 23, 2009, 11:32:02 PM
Wow, thank you so much! I don't really get it, but I shall keep reading it until it makes a little more sense. Apparently a grass factory should be something I set up. Anyone have thoughts on a good place? I had no idea the Runey system was so......complicated. This game is a lot more detailed than I originally thought.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on November 23, 2009, 11:34:58 PM
Yeah, I don't like the whole Runey thing and it's one reason why I'm taking a break from this game.
You might not have seen this post on the previous page, so here is what somebody here had to say to me when I posted about my Runey problem. Maybe it can help you:
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on November 24, 2009, 12:29:56 AM
Do you learn more about Runeys in the game at some point or do I just have to find this out on my own? I don't want to have them all die off while waiting for something that may never happen.
@Spinzilla I haven't heard much concerning it but I'd like to hear your impressions. Go ahead and start a thread for it. My little sister loves Harvest Moon games so I may get that one for her since she probably has little interest in the Rune Factory games.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on November 24, 2009, 12:48:12 AM
At some point you'll be able to read the books in the library which will tell you about certain things like the Runeys, so be sure to check it every now and again. Though, if you ask me, the books about Runeys are pretty vague and don't really stress their importance.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 24, 2009, 02:16:04 AM
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on November 24, 2009, 03:12:26 AM
So let me see if I get this straight: to build new areas on your farm like the lab or forge you have to commission Koss to build the building but that is useless until you talk to the peddler guy and buy equipment to put in the buildings, right?
Also, how do I find out what the different ladies like? Do I just give them random crap until I get a positive reaction or can I find it out somewhere in the game?
Also, I just figured out that the 'little rocks' can be broken by the cheap hammer. I thought that it was just rocky soil that had to be dug up later with a shovel or something so I never tried the hammer on them until now. So I can actually fit more than three pieces of solid 3x3 plants on my farm.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on November 24, 2009, 03:39:19 AM
So let me see if I get this straight: to build new areas on your farm like the lab or forge you have to commission Koss to build the building but that is useless until you talk to the peddler guy and buy equipment to put in the buildings, right?
You can buy the beginning cooking, lab, and forge equipment before you expand your house, but before you can get equipment upgrades you need to build the corresponding extension on your house.
Also, how do I find out what the different ladies like? Do I just give them random crap until I get a positive reaction or can I find it out somewhere in the game.
Trial and error is the fastest way. If you talk to them every day then they may make a comment about something which they like or dislike. When all else fails, check GameFAQs.
I'm not sure if you know this since I didn't know it for some time: you can clear stumps with 12 regular axe swings. That's a lot of RP use though so only clear out one that's really in your way.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on November 24, 2009, 03:58:23 AM
I was going to try chopping stumps with my cheap axe but never found enough RP left over to see it through. That is a lot.
I'm beginning to see how important growing crops in the dungeons will be to complete them. I can't get halfway through without running out of RP unless I get lucky and level up mid dungeon.
I'm hesitant to check gamefaqs because for one I try not to use guides until I beat a game or get horribly stuck and for two if I check it once it becomes hard to resist checking again and again and again and I end up spoiling the whole game early on.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: decoyman on November 24, 2009, 09:52:25 AM
Just started playing this game again. It is now winter, and I had a storm that made my field look just like EC's. :o Only about halfway through getting rid of the stumps after 3 days.
I'm beginning to see how important growing crops in the dungeons will be to complete them. I can't get halfway through without running out of RP unless I get lucky and level up mid dungeon.
Dungeon farming really helped me in more than just getting through the dungeon. In the green ruins, my entry level is devoted to long-term spring flowers (for easy access), but I have several other areas with fields full of grass (which is good, because I didn't have quite enough fodder to over-winter my monsters), which MORE IMPORTANTLY gives me a ready supply of RP-replenishing crystals. The best thing about the grass is that, even if I need to cut some down, it's fully regrown and supplying crystals again in just two days. Makes a quick trip to replenish my RP after de-stumping my field much easier. Then, more de-stumping. And more. And more! Thanks, winter storm! :thumbsup;
I actually plant a ton of grass in my above-ground field for runey management too. Because of this, I've got two areas in prosperity, the rest are decent, and even after redistributing runeys, it doesn't take long before I'm fully-stocked (60's the max in any area) at my homestead again.
Also, I was surprised at how fast re-harvestable vegetables grow when you have multiple areas in runey prosperity. I had yams every day through fall. I'd pick them, and they'd regrow by the next day. That was pretty nice.
All in all, though, I have to agree with the majority that runeys are a gigantic pain the rear.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: SilverGrey on November 24, 2009, 11:55:00 AM
I wonder why if the Runeys are so integral to the game, they chose to make the system for moving them around so awkward! I've spent most of my playing time this morning moving those little suckers about. I'm going to have to start writing down the numbers in the areas so I stop having to run back to the map all the time. Also I do not like the Runey vacuum Harvester device.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: decoyman on November 24, 2009, 12:10:54 PM
I wonder why if the Runeys are so integral to the game, they chose to make the system for moving them around so awkward! I've spent most of my playing time this morning moving those little suckers about. I'm going to have to start writing down the numbers in the areas so I stop having to run back to the map all the time. Also I do not like the Runey vacuum Harvester device.
I'm no fan either... I wish there was some other way to view the distribution than finding/asking that one girl or going all the way to the second floor of the clocktower. Maybe they're trying to re-kindle the old days of RPG gaming when you used to need a freaking 3-ring binder to keep track of everything, draw maps of dungeons, remember hints, etc...
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 24, 2009, 12:17:13 PM
You don't get anything for nothing in this game. Everyone should realize that.
Plain results require plain effort.
Special results require EXTRA care.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on November 24, 2009, 03:59:04 PM
I made it through the Green Ruins without ever growing crops in it. The bar has now been set for all of you to not be considered wimps.
time management is an important part of the game, but you're still a wimp ;)
The FAQ doesn't say anything about how to fit Runey management into my daily routine, I still have to figure that one out on my own. All it did was tell me how Runeys work, which the game fails to do, so I don't have to waste my time with trial and error.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on November 27, 2009, 02:29:53 PM
Next time you wonder thru an area and think "man, these runeys are annoying; I can't see a mop darn thing!" Just take a second to harest a couple as you walk to the next house/area and stockpile a few.
Next time you're in an area and think "what the mop! Where did all the runeys go?" You can release a few evenly.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: noname2200 on December 08, 2009, 09:01:25 PM
The only thing I've used GameFAQs for is the Runeys. And that's a smart thing to do so I'm not wasting time.
That sounds like defeatist talk to me.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: decoyman on December 10, 2009, 12:39:26 PM
I'll admit, I checked GameFAQs too for runey info. It's rather confusing in-game (runeys eat other runeys? sometimes runeys are added for no apparent reason? sometimes they DON'T eat each other? what???), and not explained well. And yeah, I did read about them in the stupid library. What did I come away with? "Runeys make stuff grow, so watch out!" Lame.
It IS worth it to watch out for them, though. All my crops grow faster, even in dungeons. Heck, I have strawberries every day. Harvest them, water the plants, and next day they're back. That's twice as fast, or double your income if you harvest them every day.
Unfortunately, with no way to grow them in winter, all my areas took fairly major hits. Now that it's spring again, Operation Runey "Runewal" is beginning in earnest.
Also, I've logged... slightly embarrassed... nearly 100 hours in this game. =o It's basically all I've played since I got it several months ago. That's value, folks!
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 10, 2009, 01:13:20 PM
Game of the Years
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on December 10, 2009, 06:10:21 PM
It IS worth it to watch out for them, though. All my crops grow faster, even in dungeons. Heck, I have strawberries every day. Harvest them, water the plants, and next day they're back. That's twice as fast, or double your income if you harvest them every day.
Do you really need to get money that quickly though? Growing crops normally has always provided me with enough money to get the things I want at the time I want them.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on December 10, 2009, 10:57:30 PM
Also, I've logged... slightly embarrassed... nearly 100 hours in this game. =o It's basically all I've played since I got it several months ago. That's value, folks!
It IS worth it to watch out for them, though. All my crops grow faster, even in dungeons. Heck, I have strawberries every day. Harvest them, water the plants, and next day they're back. That's twice as fast, or double your income if you harvest them every day.
Do you really need to get money that quickly though? Growing crops normally has always provided me with enough money to get the things I want at the time I want them.
I wish i paced myself with my purchases :( Before the end of the 1st year, i had everything there is to buy exluding things like a childs bed which you can't acquire so easily
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: noname2200 on December 16, 2009, 01:57:57 PM
I booted the game up again for the first time in a while. I'd completely forgotten how annoying Runeys really are. If only they'd taken that stupid system out...ah well, it's still a fun game.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on December 17, 2009, 03:11:19 PM
I'd completely forgotten how annoying Runeys really are. If only they'd taken that stupid system out...ah well, it's still a fun game.
I can't tell if you're mocking me or not, but either way, I still share that thought.
I agree too. I'm still confused about them eating each other. I also have a Runey spreadsheet to track everything cause I got tired of always having to run back to check the map. My runey levels seem to be doing okay though, no one's extinct....yet.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: decoyman on December 17, 2009, 04:45:40 PM
I agree too. I'm still confused about them eating each other. I also have a Runey spreadsheet to track everything cause I got tired of always having to run back to check the map. My runey levels seem to be doing okay though, no one's extinct....yet.
Haha, I read this at first "I'm still confused about them dating each other." :D
But yeah, I hate runeys. Mine went all Donner Expedition on each other over winter. At least they don't leave little runey bones laying around to show the carnage.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 17, 2009, 04:50:44 PM
Oh no! There's only a couple weeks left in December! I need to finish Winter Season!
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: noname2200 on December 19, 2009, 01:07:07 PM
I'd completely forgotten how annoying Runeys really are. If only they'd taken that stupid system out...ah well, it's still a fun game.
I can't tell if you're mocking me or not, but either way, I still share that thought.
I wasn't.
Talk about a missed opportunity! ;)
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 02, 2010, 02:50:11 AM
The Runeys are the one thing I hate about this game so far. The game would be a lot more fun if I didn't have to manage their population all over the map every day. *cry*
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 02, 2010, 04:47:01 AM
What the hell, if you're spending time on them every day, you're doing it wrong.
You'll survive fine by focusing maybe 1 day a season, 2 for extra sustainability. As long as they're alive where it counts without adversely affecting crop growth rates.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: noname2200 on January 07, 2010, 01:14:01 AM
I'm so tempted to start a file from scratch, just to re-experience the agony of being butchered by sheep...
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 07, 2010, 01:22:19 AM
LOL!
Those sheep are amazing.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on January 07, 2010, 04:27:25 AM
After you discover how the Runey system works then it isn't very difficult to simply keep them alive. If you wanted to get every area into prosperity then that would take a lot of work, but simply maintaining them doesn't take much effort after you've established a routine.
They're still annoying little buggers though.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 07, 2010, 06:26:47 AM
Right now I'm just scattering the runeys around and trying to make sure they don't become extinct in any particular area. I don't have enough of them to give prosperity, so this is the best I can do for the time being. So I am keeping them alive all over the map, but they aren't thriving or multiplying very much.
Anyways, I just think the runey thing seems like it was just tacked onto the game as an afterthought. It doesn't really add anything to gameplay, and it is a chore but unlike watering and harvesting crops this isn't a chore that I find addictive or enjoyable to perform.
One thing I will say about them, though, is that they are kinda cute... I guess.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 07, 2010, 01:14:56 PM
Every game needs a chore to make the features special.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on January 11, 2010, 10:37:20 PM
I think having the games soundtrack on my ipod is keeping me from actually playing the game.. its much more relaxing to just listen to a few songs from the game before bed, then actually booting up the game and trying to get back in my routine..
I still wanna catch a mini-dragon though!
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: noname2200 on January 18, 2010, 03:19:44 PM
I think having the games soundtrack on my ipod is keeping me from actually playing the game.. its much more relaxing to just listen to a few songs from the game before bed, then actually booting up the game and trying to get back in my routine..
I still wanna catch a mini-dragon though!
Thanks for sending me that link!
Actually, I take that back. In light of how it's shoved other songs off my iPod, curse you for sending me that link!
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on January 18, 2010, 06:36:43 PM
I think having the games soundtrack on my ipod is keeping me from actually playing the game.. its much more relaxing to just listen to a few songs from the game before bed, then actually booting up the game and trying to get back in my routine..
I still wanna catch a mini-dragon though!
Thanks for sending me that link!
Actually, I take that back. In light of how it's shoved other songs off my iPod, curse you for sending me that link!
MWAHAHAHAHA
get a bigger ipod ;)
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on September 01, 2010, 09:01:36 PM
Since it is so hot and I don't feel like doing much of anything, I ended up spending the better half of this past weekend playing this game.
I had been wanting to pick it back up for some time now, but the fact that it takes quite a time investment to get anywhere coupled with forgetting what I was doing prevented me from doing so. But, with plenty of time on my hands, it was a good time to do it. It actually wasn't as difficult as I thought, partially because I read my comments from this thread back when I put the game away as a little refresher.
I found a nifty Runey guide on GameFAQs, and it details a few simple steps on how to maintain enough Runeys for crops to grow, but not have to constantly fiddle with them. But, it was winter, so for the time being, I gathered up all of them from every area except my homeland, where they seem to be safe and their numbers do not deplete. Then, on the 30th, I placed one Runey of each type in each area, to take advantage of the bonuses for the first week of the month. After that, I gathered up my bonus Runeys, then placed a bunch of the type of Runey that matched that area's preferred type. Once that was done, I just needed to restock on a few days throughout the month, and that's that. Pretty simple.
That takes care of the Runeys. As for the ruins, I've been slowly making my way through the Snow Ruins. I got to a door that couldn't be opened. Confounded, I checked GameFAQs to see what was up. Apparently, there's an event that's supposed to happen on Whale Island that makes it open, but I never figured out how to open the gate behind the tower of Iris. So I looked that up, then went through the gate, and easily made my way through that dungeon since I got so powerful fighting in the Snow Ruins. Until I got to the tower of course, then the monsters got scary. Yikes!
So now, I've got a strong axe with a lvl 3 special attack that whoops monsters, provided I don't miss with it. I've gotten my love interest to max points, so now I'm growing the roses necessary to make the bouquet used to propose. I'm working my way through both dungeons, upping my overall level as well as looking for materials to make better equipment. I've decided, once I get married and complete all the ruins, I will consider the game to be complete.
After playing again, I'm not surprised I stopped like I did. There's a lot to like about this game, but there's some serious issues holding that back, chief amongst them the Runey system. If a sequel is made, it will have to do away with the Runeys and the crops that take forever and a day to grow, and have certain events not be so slow. And, once you get married, you should gain control of the girl. I mean, why not?
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: noname2200 on September 10, 2010, 11:45:56 AM
And, once you get married, you should gain control of the girl. I mean, why not?
How surprisingly sexist of you! :P:
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on September 10, 2010, 10:30:33 PM
Eh? It's about equality. To clarify, I'm not suggesting that control switches to the girl, I'm saying that, at the start of each day, you can choose to use the guy or the girl.
Speaking of, I've accomplished my goals! The bosses in the Snow Ruins and Whale Island have been tamed. The Snow Ruins one was fairly easy, its attack patterns are slow and predictable. It had a heck of a lot of health though, so it was an endurance battle. The Whale Island one was tough, I couldn't really figure out a way to dodge certain attacks unless I didn't attack meself, so I chugged a lot of E. Drinks.
However, from reading GameFAQs, I discovered that there is one more battle to fight! Apparently, it's Brodik. The way to do it is to go through a series of events that will happen when you raise Kross's friend level, so I've been collecting Warrior Medals to give to him.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 11, 2010, 04:28:06 AM
I logged over 150 hours in this game, but I never finished it.. I gave up many months ago and haven't touched the game since. Right now I doubt I'll ever finish it, because I still have a lot more to do... and the prospect of spending hundreds of days watering flowers before I can marry someone or move forward in the game just doesn't appeal to me. The chores are addictive, yes, but they aren't really fun or anything.. its all menial. If you want to waste time, this game is a great time killer... but that's all it is. I'd rather have fun than merely kill time. Life is too short to waste watering crops in a fictional game. If you're going to do that, at least do it in real life where it actually means something.
I'm not saying this game sucks by any means. I'm just saying I've had my fill of it, and I mean no offense to the fans... hell I was a fan but suddenly one day I realized that playing it wasn't time well spent. I would rather play Metroid instead.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on September 11, 2010, 05:48:11 AM
I'm feeling the same sentiment. I just don't feel I can justify the time sink this game requires at this point in my life. Maybe when I get a better job and have a bit more free time or even better I can play the whole game when I am old and retired.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on September 11, 2010, 02:47:35 PM
Not to be rude, but I think you guys just aren't very good at playing this game. The key to the game is time management; never waste an hour, there's always something you could be planting, picking, petting, fighting, exploring, mastering, etc. If you haven't figured out the best way to handle it all, then the game will go by very slowly.
It shouldn't take anyone 150 hours to complete this game. I'm at around 100 hours where I am, and I've "finished" it, except for a couple of side things, which are like side-quests in an RPG. If it's taken you that long, then it seems likely you haven't been doing enough in one day; have spent too much time on one single project; haven't fought monsters to level up; etc. Besides, I know someone who put more time than that into a certain monster hunting game. ;)
Rune Factory Frontier is not a time sink game. It can be, but I don't think it's meant to be. Since it isn't in real-time like Animal Crossing and there's no complex story to follow like an RPG, you can play it as little as you want and still be able to get through it. If you played it for a half-hour every day or every week, that's enough time to do one or two days, depending on what you do in them. There's a guide on GameFAQs that lists the order of story events; you could choose to follow this if you don't want to spend the time figuring everything out (some of it is a bit random).
This game's only daunting if you want it to be. You can take all the time you want to finish it, and you absolutely don't need to bother with a couple of the crazy lengthy things in the game (like the flowers that take a year to grow, though there are ways you could shorten that to a month if you have money and dedicated management).
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on September 11, 2010, 06:08:02 PM
It's because I'd rather play a game with you guys like Tri or Modern Warfare than sink all that time into a single player game. That's what I mean. I only have so much time in a day and I'd prefer to have played Tri with you all. I wouldn't have become as good friends with some forum members and friendships are more important that sinking that 100+ hours into a single player game.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on September 11, 2010, 08:12:21 PM
Ah I see. Do you feel this way about all lengthy games in general, including RPGs and strategy games and such that take so many hours to complete?
The next Rune Factory game should have online, I think that's the only way I would buy another one. Thinking about it, I can't come up with anything significant to add to the game; just fixing its issues isn't enough. It would also help some with the game's pacing. You could have your friend(s) come over and help you prepare your farmland and plant your crops, getting it all done by noon. Then, after that work is done, you could head off and fight your way exploring a dungeon. It's the only major thing left to add to the game and would make it fresh and fun again.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 11, 2010, 09:47:36 PM
If online play were added, it would be cool if they made it possible for players to marry other players in the game.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 11, 2010, 09:53:38 PM
Ah I see. Do you feel this way about all lengthy games in general, including RPGs and strategy games and such that take so many hours to complete?
The next Rune Factory game should have online, I think that's the only way I would buy another one. Thinking about it, I can't come up with anything significant to add to the game; just fixing its issues isn't enough. It would also help some with the game's pacing. You could have your friend(s) come over and help you prepare your farmland and plant your crops, getting it all done by noon. Then, after that work is done, you could head off and fight your way exploring a dungeon. It's the only major thing left to add to the game and would make it fresh and fun again.
So basically, Harvest Moon plus Monster Hunter. That sounds both awesome and insanely addictive.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on September 11, 2010, 10:45:04 PM
Eh, it isn't much like Monster Hunter. That game is like a big series of boss battles, and Rune Factory Frontier has only a handful of actual bosses. It's a cross between Harvest Moon and a dungeon-crawler, without the cruelty. It is most certainly awesome and insanely addictive, so beware; that thirty-minutes-a-day suggestion would be hard to do...
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 12, 2010, 12:56:41 AM
Despite using weapons like swords, you don't actually kill anything in the game. All the weapons have a spell cast on them that sends the monsters to some special sanctuary... or so the game says anyway. I've never actually seen this sanctuary and can't vouch for its existence, but that's what the game says.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on September 12, 2010, 06:12:28 AM
Not Tri. It would be better compared to Harvest Moon + Animal Crossing City Folk. Have your friends come over and help you with your town + gardening and lady wooing + dungeon crawling together. That sounds really awesome right there.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on September 12, 2010, 04:59:40 PM
Despite using weapons like swords, you don't actually kill anything in the game. All the weapons have a spell cast on them that sends the monsters to some special sanctuary... or so the game says anyway. I've never actually seen this sanctuary and can't vouch for its existence, but that's what the game says.
lol that's true, I forgot about that. The weapons are coated with the magic of "Returnin" or something equally nonsensical, and it sends them back to their home world, the "First Forest." It actually isn't all that different from the type of game outlined in my signature...
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 12, 2010, 05:13:07 PM
Yeah, in fact I remember in Ganesha's shop there are weapons that she won't sell to you because she hadn't cast the Retornen spell on them yet, but they were otherwise completed.
Speaking of Ganesha, I really wish she was a candidate for marriage. She is an adult, so I would feel more comfortable with marrying her than one of the teen and pre-teen girls that are actually eligible for marriage. Marrying them just isn't right.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: noname2200 on September 13, 2010, 11:45:17 AM
Eh? It's about equality. To clarify, I'm not suggesting that control switches to the girl, I'm saying that, at the start of each day, you can choose to use the guy or the girl.
Speaking of, I've accomplished my goals! The bosses in the Snow Ruins and Whale Island have been tamed. The Snow Ruins one was fairly easy, its attack patterns are slow and predictable. It had a heck of a lot of health though, so it was an endurance battle. The Whale Island one was tough, I couldn't really figure out a way to dodge certain attacks unless I didn't attack meself, so I chugged a lot of E. Drinks.
I was just teasing you. Regarding those bosses, I actually had the opposite experience: I cruised by the Whale Island boss with only two or three hits, but the Ice Dungeon boss killed me more times than I care to count. How'd you avoid the revolving ice breath attack? I can't even outrun it...
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: EasyCure on September 15, 2010, 02:09:20 AM
My first (sort of) time back in the nintendo section of the forum, and one of my favorite games is being discussed! That can't be coincidence.
I popped in the game about a month back, trying to get back into it after so much time away.. I spent an hour or so worrying that I had missed a date with one of the girls in the village, pulling my hair out about it. I gave up, searched a few FAQs until I found something telling me which girls would be where on what date.. Then I realized the very last time I played, I DID go on the date (with Mist) and saved the game right after, because I had a date IRL to attend. FML moment right there..
Kudos to Mop it up for beating those two bosses! I've only made it to the Snow Ruins boss once, to see what it was like. I tackled that dungeon early on when my character was very underpowered compared to the monsters there. Some of the first level monsters could kill me in only a few hits. I honestly don't know how I ran passed so many enemies to reach the end.. Reason I bring this up is, Mop it up is right; this game isn't a time sinker unless thats how you play it. I have a treasure chest full of E drinks that I could bring into battle and tackle the Snow Ruins boss as an endurance battle like she did, but I decided not to after completing the main storyline within the first year (which was my goal all along). I decided that, in that 2nd spring, I'd take things slower, work on my farm a little more seriously (although money isn't an issue, at all), maybe balance out my runeys some (which I decided against) and take my time finishing up Whale Island and the Snow ruins, with the best armour I could attain (I've made almost all the capes, I think i just need to raise my level some, and find one last ingredient to make that ultimate cape..).
Unfortunately for me, when I slowed down my pace is when I lost interest. I still love the game to death, it's one of my favorite games on Wii (or any system honestly) by far. I still listen to the soundtrack and drift off into daydreams of living a peacefull life growing crops and raising monsters; away from my real job and real responsibilities.. but with the storyline complete, I don't have an in-game goals to go after. I procrastinate, a lot, so I can't see myself finishing this game to 100% any time soon. Last time I played, I kept telling myself I should head deeper into the Snow ruins for a week straight (in-game), then Whale Islane for the next week, but instead.. I picked crops from dungeons and tried raising the heart levels of the few girls I don't currently have up to 10..
Speaking of raising those levels; I actually have Kross up to 10 friend points but I think I got him that high a little too early. Broddick appeared in town suddenly, and has dissapeared. I've read up on it and found out about the boss battle and the scenarios that lead up to it, and a certain scenario with broddic/kross hasn't happened yet. I never got a cut scene showing Broddik leaving town either, he's just not around. Annette hasn't mentioned anything about him being depressed either,and on a slightly related note; even though I've completed part of .. uh.. what's Mists rivals name?.. her marriage eligibility event giving her the medicine for her father she hasn't moved back to town. I think I did too many events at once and something got screwy. I won't find out until I keep playing, and since I'm trying my hardest to finish; Red Steel 2, Mario Galaxy 2, Modern Warfare: Reflex (before starting Fragile Dreams, and Sin & Punishment).. I doubt I'll find out any time soon.
PS. Did I ever post my picture of my entire field covered in Golden turnips??
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 05, 2011, 04:19:40 PM
Dude i'm still playing this and not much else.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: KDR_11k on January 07, 2011, 02:24:20 AM
I saw it for cheap but decided against it, big timesinks like this work better on portables for me.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on January 08, 2011, 07:34:31 AM
There is always the new Rune Factory on DS. It's the third one on that system so you have plenty of options.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: KDR_11k on January 08, 2011, 09:58:03 AM
I think we only just got the second one here.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Stratos on January 08, 2011, 05:41:55 PM
I've not heard much difference between any of them so it's probably a safe bet they are all good games.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Crimm on January 10, 2011, 05:06:23 PM
I've not heard much difference between any of them so it's probably a safe bet they are all good games.
There actually are some pretty big differences between all the games in the series. 2's dungeons are a short joke, for instance, 3 is more about farming/interacting, etc.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on January 17, 2011, 05:32:17 PM
Unfortunately for me, when I slowed down my pace is when I lost interest. I still love the game to death, it's one of my favorite games on Wii (or any system honestly) by far. with the storyline complete, I don't have an in-game goals to go after. I procrastinate, a lot, so I can't see myself finishing this game to 100% any time soon.
I think I missed this post when it was made. I mostly agree with these sentiments. I don't know if I'd lump it in with my favourite games, but it's definitely one I like a lot. After I completed the main storyline and the dungeons, I no longer felt compelled to continue playing, which is kind of sad. There's still a few things I could do, I never did get to the fight with Brodik; I've never grown crops higher than level one; I never grew the flowers that take ridiculously long; I never bothered interacting with the eligible girls much except for one, just since I felt I should get married for the sake of completeness; I never raised animals; etc. But now that all the major stuff is over, I just don't feel motivated to do all those things. I tried starting a new game, I thought maybe if I still had the main storyline and dungeons to complete, I would feel more compelled to do all those tasks along the way. After the beginning events were taking so long, and the thought of getting the Runeys set up again, I just didn't want to go through it all again. Maybe someday...
I believe a new console furry game is in the works too.. :/
You mean Rune Factory Oceans? It didn't look like that from what I saw, but that was just a blurry magazine scan so there could be more info out there now.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: noname2200 on January 17, 2011, 05:36:40 PM
I don't think so, I think I'd remember something like that. I don't even know how to get a golden turnip.
You get one during one of the festivals. You're supposed to turn it in to win the festival, but you can choose to keep it and put it through the seeds machine instead.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 18, 2011, 08:12:47 PM
One girl almost engaged, 3 girls ready to take her place. Level2 Strawberry plantation is on its last day. Amazing Bathing Suit equipped for justice.
Things are getting exciting. I'm not even on the 2nd floor of the Snow Ruins, yet.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Crimm on January 18, 2011, 09:24:48 PM
One girl almost engaged, 3 girls ready to take her place.
I foresee a certain cutscene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usQ7a5Cr7Yc) in your future... ;D
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Crimm on January 21, 2011, 01:18:53 PM
This thread is no longer worksafe.
Good job, guys!
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: Mop it up on January 24, 2011, 05:25:58 PM
TIP: If you bring things like weeds and scrap iron to the kitchen and try to cook something with them, you can turn them into a Mistake, which has a slightly higher sell value than those items.
Title: Re: Rune Factory Frontier
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 24, 2011, 06:28:04 PM
Your PSP discussion belongs in the "Sony getting hit hard lately" thread.
