1. Wii - 24.45 million 2. Xbox 360 - 19 million 3. PlayStation 3 - 12.85 million
It's much more tighter than last gen but it's still amazing how fast the 360 and PS3 got whooped by the Wii. And its surprising that the Wii to PS3 ratio is practically 2:1.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on May 14, 2008, 04:08:36 PM
How did the PS3 sell even that many? ??? That's actually pretty fast, and it's already not far off from the 360 despite its year long headstart.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 14, 2008, 04:09:34 PM
owned so bad
so glad that gaming will be over by the end of the month
"Lifetime sales were not available for PS2 and PSP, as this is the first year Sony reported sales figures instead of shipment numbers." --feel the burn
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on May 14, 2008, 04:14:36 PM
"Lifetime sales were not available for PS2 and PSP, as this is the first year Sony reported sales figures instead of shipment numbers." --feel the burn
Hey look mr. old Market Leader isn't so arrogant anymore.
How did the PS3 sell even that many? ??? That's actually pretty fast, and it's already not far off from the 360 despite its year long headstart.
Europe and Japan still love Sony and Nintendo more than Microsoft you know.
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on May 14, 2008, 04:31:46 PM
One of these days I'm going to have to decide which one of them is going to be my secondary console.
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Post by: animecyberrat on May 14, 2008, 04:33:18 PM
Damn it I seriously HATE Sony right now and just wish they would drop out for ever. Why must people keep buying their consoles, this will be bad news in a year from now. I so wanted PS3 lifetime sales to be worse than GC.
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Post by: Kairon on May 14, 2008, 04:45:15 PM
It's worth it to note that these are SOLD TO RETAILER numbers
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Post by: Maverick on May 14, 2008, 04:54:04 PM
Damn it I seriously HATE Sony right now and just wish they would drop out for ever. Why must people keep buying their consoles, this will be bad news in a year from now. I so wanted PS3 lifetime sales to be worse than GC.
Why? The PS3 is actually a really cool machine.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 14, 2008, 06:25:06 PM
such comedy
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on May 14, 2008, 06:38:06 PM
"MS: Not Counting Wii, X360 Dominates Worldwide; Xbox 360 First Console to Sell 10M in US
Update: Microsoft has confirmed to Shacknews that it did not take the Wii into account when it claimed the Xbox 360 as worldwide console leader.
"Xbox 360 has the largest global install base of any current gen. high definition gaming console, Wii excluded," the company clarified to Shacknews when asked how Xbox 360 could lead worldwide with 19 million when the Wii has sold 24.45 million worldwide. "
Oh Microsoft....
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 14, 2008, 06:41:38 PM
such comedy
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Post by: Bill Aurion on May 14, 2008, 06:46:11 PM
"Sony: Not Counting Wii/Xbox 360, PS3 Dominates Worldwide; PS3 to Sell 10M in US eventually
Update: Sony has confirmed to Shacknews that it did not take the Wii or Xbox 360 into account when it claimed the PlayStation 3 as worldwide console leader.
"PlayStation 3 has the largest global install base of any current gen. high definition gaming console, Wii and Xbox 360 excluded," the company clarified to Shacknews when asked how PS3 could lead worldwide with 13 million when the Wii has sold 24.45 million and the Xbox 360 19 million worldwide. "
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on May 14, 2008, 06:53:41 PM
Damn it I seriously HATE Sony right now and just wish they would drop out for ever. Why must people keep buying their consoles, this will be bad news in a year from now. I so wanted PS3 lifetime sales to be worse than GC.
Why? The PS3 is actually a really cool machine.
Must you really even ask that? This is a Nintendo fanboard. We obviously want Nintendo to be #1, and besides, the GC is also a cool machine. Are you implying it isn't? It's cooler than the PS3 and therefore deserves to have sold more.
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Post by: Kairon on May 14, 2008, 06:59:57 PM
I think the better-than-PS2 performance of the Wii, despite the better than XBox and GC performance of the other 2 systems, are proof of Nintendo's ability to expand the market. I wonder when the Wii worldwide install base will surpass the combined install of the other 2 consoles... by the end of 2009?
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Post by: Maverick on May 14, 2008, 07:16:01 PM
Must you really even ask that? This is a Nintendo fanboard. We obviously want Nintendo to be #1, and besides, the GC is also a cool machine. Are you implying it isn't? It's cooler than the PS3 and therefore deserves to have sold more.
No, I understand that people have their preferences, but I don't understand HATING Sony or the PS3. I loved the GC the most last gen, and got the most enjoyment out of it from all the systems, but I still liked all three. This gen I'm probably leaning more towards 360 and PS3, but I don't HATE the Wii. I'm still having lots of fun with it as well.
I was just asking Rat the reasons for his blind brand-related internet rage.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 14, 2008, 07:23:35 PM
So Kairon, when do you predict your predicted 3 way tie will happen?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 14, 2008, 07:41:02 PM
ahahahahh GC was not cool. get real.
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Post by: animecyberrat on May 14, 2008, 08:31:12 PM
It is not meant to be faboyish at all, on the contrary I am a HUGE Sony fan, everything, non-video game related I own is Sony pretty much. I HATE Playstation, for too many reasons to list, and since they are MY views even saying WHY I hate it would only upset those whose views differ from my own. But I want nothing more than for SONY to exit the VIDEO GAME market. Not go out of business just STOP KILLING GAMING.
With that said, I DO think the PS3 is a nice piece of hardware, and if it didn't say Playstation on it and if Playstation wasn't ruining video games, IN MY MIND, I would totally pick one up. Aside from that, PS2, the reason there even *is* a PS3, sucked IN MY OPINION and had NOTHING to offer *me*.
It is pure subjective I make no fanboyish claims like GC was more powerful or Xbox had better games or PS2 was for sheep who can't think for themselves (a statement closer reserved for the Wii audience but I don't wanna open that can of worms)
I have nothing against Sony as a company, nor do I particularly mind their hardware that much or even at all, but I will NEVER own another Playstation brand product as long as I live, despite the handful of games I like, it is my choice to chose not to spend the money, which I don't have but even if I did would not spend, to play a handful of games, at last count 2, that I can't get elsewhere.
Besides I *AM* a HUGE Sega Fanboy and SONY is more responsible for their demise downfall than anything else (their own ignorance aside 32X *was* a great idea so was Sega CD, both poorly executed and not marketed to their full potential among other problems) so my HATRED of all things PLAYSTATION is not anything to do with Nintendo, but Sega, and my longing for the days when I knew owning the latest SEGA hardware pretty much guaranteed I would not have to worry about weather or not my favorite SEGA games would come to my system of choice, cuz they were made by SEGA.
If those reasons are not satisfactory to YOU or anyone else PLEASE DON"T BOTHER trying to change my mind, because it won't work. I feel very passionately about this, which is why I was GLAD every single one of my Sony Fanboy friends all bought Xbox 360s instead, on top of the Wii dominance I had high hopes of SONY's PS3's demise. Sadly it is a pipe dream right next to SEGA making another game console again and up there with a REAL Duck Hunt sequel ever getting made.
So if that is all thank you very much and GO NINTEDO (Not the site just rooting them on)
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on May 14, 2008, 10:08:35 PM
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It is not meant to be faboyish at all, on the contrary I am a HUGE Sony fan, everything, non-video game related I own is Sony pretty much. I HATE Playstation, for too many reasons to list, and since they are MY views even saying WHY I hate it would only upset those whose views differ from my own. But I want nothing more than for SONY to exit the VIDEO GAME market. Not go out of business just STOP KILLING GAMING.
So how is Sony killing videogames in my eyes Microsoft is trying to kill gaming more than anything and centralize everything into Microsoft's fold.
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With that said, I DO think the PS3 is a nice piece of hardware, and if it didn't say Playstation on it and if Playstation wasn't ruining video games, IN MY MIND, I would totally pick one up. Aside from that, PS2, the reason there even *is* a PS3, sucked IN MY OPINION and had NOTHING to offer *me*.
See you admit the PS3 is nice because its a Sony product but you hate it because its playstation branded fanboyism right there.
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I have nothing against Sony as a company, nor do I particularly mind their hardware that much or even at all, but I will NEVER own another Playstation brand product as long as I live, despite the handful of games I like, it is my choice to chose not to spend the money, which I don't have but even if I did would not spend, to play a handful of games, at last count 2, that I can't get elsewhere.
But don't you have a grudge against playstation which is a Sony brand because it's killing Videogames, so you should be mad against Sony since they are the ones behind this grand scheme to "kill video gaming".
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Besides I *AM* a HUGE Sega Fanboy and SONY is more responsible for their demise downfall than anything else (their own ignorance aside 32X *was* a great idea so was Sega CD, both poorly executed and not marketed to their full potential among other problems) so my HATRED of all things PLAYSTATION is not anything to do with Nintendo, but Sega, and my longing for the days when I knew owning the latest SEGA hardware pretty much guaranteed I would not have to worry about weather or not my favorite SEGA games would come to my system of choice, cuz they were made by SEGA.
Nintendo is technically another reason why Sega ran from the hardware market, Sega had crappy management, released too much hardware that failed after the genesis era and they couldn't keep up with competition(which included Nintendo and Sony) so they had to fold as simple as that.
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If those reasons are not satisfactory to YOU or anyone else PLEASE DON"T BOTHER trying to change my mind, because it won't work. I feel very passionately about this, which is why I was GLAD every single one of my Sony Fanboy friends all bought Xbox 360s instead, on top of the Wii dominance I had high hopes of SONY's PS3's demise. Sadly it is a pipe dream right next to SEGA making another game console again and up there with a REAL Duck Hunt sequel ever getting made.
And the signs of blind fanboyism continue hazaa!!
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 14, 2008, 10:26:20 PM
You must be a big Sega fanboy if you don't think the Sega CD and 32X were bad ideas. Sega should have taken a cue from Nintendo and decided that a CD add-on wasn't worth it and added chips to cartridges instead of making the 32X. If nobody was burned by those products more people would have bought the Saturn, and if that had happened the Dreamcast would have been able to come out at the right time instead of being ahead of it's time and Sega would very likely still be in the hardware business.
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Post by: animecyberrat on May 14, 2008, 11:09:50 PM
Like I said, it would start an argument.
It is simple nostalgia plain and simple. When I was growing up where I lived, every single person I knew had a Sega, only 1 person had a SNES and he also had a Sega and, like us, played it more. Then the ONLY friend I had who didn't have a Sega ALSO didn't have a Super, he JUST had a NES and was content with that.
In the world I grew up in SEGA was king of the hill, Nintendo was also pretty good we loved them BOTH about equal, they both had similarities.
Then along comes PLAYSTATION and then things go to hell.
It is NOT fanboyism AGAINST Sony, I said that, it is fanboyism AGAINST PLAYSTATION, but I have LEGITAMATE reasons, weather anyone agrees or not. Like I said it is all SUBJECTIVE, I think MS is **** also but they are just **** all around not just their games division.
But I am not and WILL NOT turn this into an argument SO STOP trying to. I made a statement that affects ME, you DO NOT HAVE to share my hatred, NO ONE DOES, but I have the RIGHT to my own opinions and I will ALWAYS feel free to express those no matter how "trollish" or "fanboyish" they may come off.
But I was perfectly calm and also very serious and light hearted in my post, YOU seamed to want to attack me for no reason. These are MY opinions WHY do you feel the need to tear them apart?
"SONY SUCKS NINTENDO RULES"
If I had said something like that, fine start a war, but what I said was I had my own, albeit complicated to others, reasons for my views.
I also ADMITTED it is FANBYISH to some extent so please STOP trying to make an argument and ENJOY the fact that others have different views on life.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on May 15, 2008, 01:26:32 AM
Umm I'm not trying to attack you I'm just making a constructive argument and backing them up with facts. You do know everything moves on and times change so you can't really live in the past.
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Post by: Maverick on May 15, 2008, 03:07:49 AM
Sorry Rat, I didn't know you would get so defensive. I didn't mean anything by it, I was just curious.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on May 15, 2008, 04:07:19 AM
I agree with Rat that the playstation line sucks. Sony as a consumer electronics company wasn't really that bad, as they did make quality tvs and other products, but for some reason lately the quality of their stuff has greatly deteriorated, and the Sony brandname doesn't really mean what it used to in the 80s and early 90s.
So why does the Playstation line suck so much? Well, aside from it breaking down and needing to be fixed/replaced more often than any console ever should, there's also the matter of them not really innovating anything. The PS1 controller was a rip-off of the SNES controller layout, and then when the N64 controller came along they also ripped that off by tacking two thumbsticks to it and then just calling it a day, and that controller design has been that way ever since. The PS3's controller has also added tilt support and is wireless, but there's nothing really great or innovative about its design or button layout. I personally have issues with them stealing innovations from Nintendo, and I also loathe them for backstabbing Nintendo and releasing the PS1 in the first place, when they were supposed to be partners.
And what is the deal with them bundling it with Blu-ray? Sony doesn't really care about gaming, and they never did. To them the Playstation has just been about controlling the living room, and that's all they care about. This way of thinking really shows.
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Post by: ShyGuy on May 15, 2008, 04:48:32 AM
Resident Evil Five is going to force me to get another platform. I may have to +1 to the PS3 sales.
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Post by: Nick DiMola on May 15, 2008, 06:36:15 AM
I own a PS1 and a PS2 and my biggest beef with Sony are their controller "innovations." They were all totally ripped off from Nintendo, which would be ok with me if the changes they made to the controller were good. Instead they made the dual shock which must be the worst controller of all time. The sticks are not placed properly and it is not ergonomic AT ALL. Instead of ripping off a Nintendo controller and making it better (360 controller), they ripped it off and managed to make it worse.
Now generally I wouldn't care, but Sony's dominance of the past two generations has made that controller somewhat of a standard. Alot of PC controllers mimic the design and finding adapters that let you use other brand controllers on the PS1/PS2 is near impossible.
I can understand why rat might think he was being attacked, but I think flames was just breaking down the argument piece by piece. If rat wants to hate the Playstation brand, whether it be rationally or irrationally, he is entitled to. If he doesn't want to continue discussion about it further nobody should be badgering him to do so either (not saying anyone is).
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Post by: Shift Key on May 15, 2008, 08:31:16 AM
And what is the deal with them bundling it with Blu-ray? Sony doesn't really care about gaming, and they never did. To them the Playstation has just been about controlling the living room, and that's all they care about. This way of thinking really shows.
And Microsoft hasn't????? Microsoft wants you to use their OS(computer space), their game machines(living room space), Zunes(MP3 space), buy a Ford brand car with Microsoft Sync(Automobile space), get a cellphone with their Mobile OS(cellphone space), use their software to connect all of these things together.
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on May 15, 2008, 11:43:31 AM
So why does the Playstation line suck so much? Well, aside from it breaking down and needing to be fixed/replaced more often than any console ever should, there's also the matter of them not really innovating anything. The PS1 controller was a rip-off of the SNES controller layout, and then when the N64 controller came along they also ripped that off by tacking two thumbsticks to it and then just calling it a day, and that controller design has been that way ever since. The PS3's controller has also added tilt support and is wireless, but there's nothing really great or innovative about its design or button layout. I personally have issues with them stealing innovations from Nintendo, and I also loathe them for backstabbing Nintendo and releasing the PS1 in the first place, when they were supposed to be partners.
I don't think that was backstabery at all, I'm pretty sure Nintendo was being a bunch of assholes too.
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Post by: animecyberrat on May 15, 2008, 11:51:00 AM
I wasn't meaning to sound defensive just that like I said, my views are not popular and also it is hard to explain. I did, LOVE FF7, and when I had a PS1, there was maybe three games I liked on it, but only 2 were exclusive.
And...I can to live in the past, it's my right. Hell the ONLY reason I got a Wii, as I have said before, is the Virtual Console, as far as I am concerned PS killed gaming a long time ago and for oh about three years or more I haven't really enjoyed the hobby at all. Lost Winds is the first NEW game in YEARS I have had fun playing. My GC collection is as follows, Sonic Mega Collection, Sonic Gems Collection, Mega Man Anniversary Collection, Mega Man X Collection, Midways Arcade Treasures 1 and 2, Zelda Collectors Disc and Metroid Prime. I have SFA (universally hated on here) and Harvest Moon A Wonderfull Life, but my sister is holding onto those games for me cuz she has only a GC and nothing else and loves those two games the most.
It is just who I am. I didn't mean to get defensive, honestly I wasn't upset I was just taken back that again my difference in opinion was being called out. I have FACTS to back up my claims also, like I said fact is I had only 1 non Sega owning friend growing up. Fact is I only found 3 PS1 games I liked and only 2 were exclusive. Fact is I hate the DS, and the regular controller even more. Fact is PS2 had nothing GC didn't have that interested me (GC had very little that did also but a lot of it I attribute to growing older, changing tastes and things like that.)
From my perspective PS is worthless. Now I should clarify, I didn't mean to say I hate PS altogether, it took a while to get there like I said I respect Sony and their hardware, but the line ends there.
So yeah maybe my feelings are fanboyish, but they are sentimentally based so I feel justified in my bias. Plus it conflicts me to hate PS but LOVE everything else Sony so yeah, it's not easy being me. ;)
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 15, 2008, 01:11:51 PM
While the Wii has the clear lead of the three the combined sales of the Xbox 360 and PS3 is higher than the Wii sales. This probably is a big reason why so many third party games are annouced for every console but the Wii. The X360 and PS3 are quite similar so it's easy to make a game for both consoles but the Wii is quite different. You either make a game for the X360 and the PS3 or just the Wii. Well the X360/PS3 combo has a higher userbase than the Wii alone so no wonder the third party support for the Wii isn't there. The Wii has the console wars equivalent of a minority government. If I want my game to be available to the highest userbase making a multiplatform game for the X360 and PS3 would be the way to go.
So let's go Wii sales! Dwarf the combination and the third party support will just pour in! ;)
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Post by: UncleBob on May 15, 2008, 01:13:37 PM
Sega should have taken a cue from Nintendo and decided that a CD add-on wasn't worth it
To be fair, Nintendo decided the CD add-on wasn't worth it after seeing how badly the SEGA add-on was received. SEGA didn't have that information to look at.
I also loathe them for backstabbing Nintendo and releasing the PS1 in the first place, when they were supposed to be partners.
Umm... no. Nintendo signed with Sony to help create the sound chips on the SNES. Part of the agreement was that, if Nintendo ever created a CD-based add-on for the SNES, Sony would get first dibbs.
Nintendo then went and hooked up with Phillips to create the add-on.
When Sony called them out, Nintendo had to ditch Phillips (thus the CD-i) and go with Sony.
Between how much control Sony wanted over the add-on and how badly the SEGA-CD performed, Nintendo dropped the add-on idea. In order to convince Sony not to sue, Nintendo convinced Sony that they could release their system as a stand-alone player - and thus, the PlayStation was formed.
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Post by: Nick DiMola on May 15, 2008, 01:17:53 PM
In order to convince Sony not to sue, Nintendo convinced Sony that they could release their system as a stand-alone player - and thus, the PlayStation was formed.
LOL, Sony's best idea was actually from the lips of Nintendo.
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Post by: UncleBob on May 15, 2008, 01:20:38 PM
While the Wii has the clear lead of the three the combined sales of the Xbox 360 and PS3 is higher than the Wii sales. This probably is a big reason why so many third party games are annouced for every console but the Wii.
Well, to be fair, that 7.4 million lead that the PS360 has over the Wii doesn't really take into account the number of people who own both a PS3 and a 360.
Also, these numbers don't account for people who are on their 3rd or 4th 360.
I'm guessing that the potential sales base for the Wii is about the same as the 360/PS3...
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 15, 2008, 03:29:21 PM
Sega should have taken a cue from Nintendo and decided that a CD add-on wasn't worth it
To be fair, Nintendo decided the CD add-on wasn't worth it after seeing how badly the SEGA add-on was received. SEGA didn't have that information to look at.
I also loathe them for backstabbing Nintendo and releasing the PS1 in the first place, when they were supposed to be partners.
Umm... no. Nintendo signed with Sony to help create the sound chips on the SNES. Part of the agreement was that, if Nintendo ever created a CD-based add-on for the SNES, Sony would get first dibbs.
Nintendo then went and hooked up with Phillips to create the add-on.
When Sony called them out, Nintendo had to ditch Phillips (thus the CD-i) and go with Sony.
Between how much control Sony wanted over the add-on and how badly the SEGA-CD performed, Nintendo dropped the add-on idea. In order to convince Sony not to sue, Nintendo convinced Sony that they could release their system as a stand-alone player - and thus, the PlayStation was formed.
That's not how I always heard that story. I thought Nintendo backstabbed Sony on the SNES CD thing, and then Ken Kutaragi, who always wanted to do a standalone PlayStation but the Sony board of directors didn't think it was a good idea to compete with Nintendo, used their anger over that to convince them to change their mind and do it on their own. Are you calling Steven Kent a liar?
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Post by: UncleBob on May 15, 2008, 03:32:52 PM
Umm... that's pretty much the same story...
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Post by: UncleBob on May 15, 2008, 03:36:48 PM
Whoops... A quick Wikipedia check (yeah, yeah...) tells me I do have the events slightly out of order. Nintendo didn't go with Phillips until after they stabbed Sony in the back.
Apparently, Sony found out about the Phillips partnership at the same CES convention where Nintendo and Sony were supposed to announce their SNES-CD....
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Post by: Kairon on May 15, 2008, 03:45:45 PM
Whoops... A quick Wikipedia check (yeah, yeah...) tells me I do have the events slightly out of order. Nintendo didn't go with Phillips until after they stabbed Sony in the back.
Apparently, Sony found out about the Phillips partnership at the same CES convention where Nintendo and Sony were supposed to announce their SNES-CD....
Nintendo backstabbed Sony because they wanted to shove Nintendo aside as just as a 1st party developer and publisher while Sony does all the hardware to get the majority of the profits. The CD add on was supposed to be called the Nintendo Play Station IIRC.
Kutaragi got ticked off because he went to CES and showed off the Nintendo Play Station without knowing that Nintendo burned Sony big time when Nintendo went on to the failed Phillip's Alliance.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on May 15, 2008, 07:05:55 PM
And what is the deal with them bundling it with Blu-ray? Sony doesn't really care about gaming, and they never did. To them the Playstation has just been about controlling the living room, and that's all they care about. This way of thinking really shows.
And Microsoft hasn't????? Microsoft wants you to use their OS(computer space), their game machines(living room space), Zunes(MP3 space), buy a Ford brand car with Microsoft Sync(Automobile space), get a cellphone with their Mobile OS(cellphone space), use their software to connect all of these things together.
Of course Microsoft is too; am I saying I like Microsoft either? I don't want either Microsoft or Sony to be the market leaders, because their goal isn't gaming and for myself personally the only reason I care to own a console is for gaming purposes. I wouldn't want my console to lose its focus and be a movie player or a toaster or a coffee maker, I just want it to play games. The PS3 and 360 are jacks of all trades, but they aren't really a master of anything. If you want the best BLu-ray player in existence you'll have to look elsewhere for a standalone model. Similarly, the PS3 and 360 aren't really the greatest at video games either. The PS3's library is very small, and the 360's library consists almost entirely of "hardcore" FPS killing games that are mostly also available on the PC.
Plus the 360 and PS3 are getting into video and mp3 downloads and god knows what else. Nintendo is the only console maker still in existence where gaming is the sole focus. Sure, they did put those channels on the Wii, but they aren't trying to force a new proprietary disc format down our throats. That's the beef I have with Sony and Microsoft. If I had it my way, Sony and Microsoft would drop out of the market and go back to their respective things, and then I would resurrect Atari and Sega, because I feel those were the golden days of video-gaming when it was just about the games, rather then this borg style "assimilate your living room into our monopoly" mentality.
Microsoft IS a monopoly when it comes to computers, and Sony is now a monopoly on HD disc formats. Monopolies are a bad thing, and I fear the one-console future that some people say is going to happen. When you have a monopoly there is no competition so there is no incentive to innovate, and things will be just as they were in the Atari 2600 era with crappy games like E.T. that led to the market collapsing.
I don't want either Sony or Microsoft to succeed because I don't want that to happen again. If it does, it will be a dark era for gaming. Nintendo is the only purely gaming company left in existence so we can't let them fail. Atari and Sega are no longer making consoles, so everything depends on Nintendo now.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on May 15, 2008, 07:29:07 PM
Top 10 VG Titles - April'08 Units* 360 GTA IV 1.85mm Wii Mario Kart w/ wheel 1.12mm PS3 GTA IV 1.00mm Wii Play 360K Wii Super Smash Bros. Brawl 326K PS3 Gran Turismo 5: Prologue 224K DS Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Darkness 202K DS Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time 202K Wii Guitar Hero III 152K 360 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 141K
Sony and Microsoft are probably pissed GTA didn't help at all and Mario Kart + Wii Fit hype is making things sky rocket. Im surprised about the Gran Turismo 5: $40 Glorified Demo edition sales.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 15, 2008, 07:40:06 PM
PS3/360 are the last bastions of hawdcaw gaming. It's only natural. The hawdcaw (the millions who already have a ps3/360 and aren't expanding their base) are flocking to their last remaining island, searching for land high & dry while the BLUE OCEAN continues to swallow the world.
Everyone else grew gills or are surfing on Balance Boards, highly mobile and riding on the waves of disruption.
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Post by: Maverick on May 15, 2008, 07:47:36 PM
So following WaterWorld logic, I get to be a pirate!
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on May 15, 2008, 08:08:30 PM
So following WaterWorld logic, I get to be a pirate!
One of the pirates that lose or one of the pirates that win?
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Post by: Maverick on May 15, 2008, 08:55:59 PM
Doesn't matter. Once I was a pirate my life would be complete so I would be happy regardless of the outcome.
Title: Re: World Wide Current Gen Install Base Numbers are in...
Post by: IceCold on May 15, 2008, 11:55:07 PM
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Instead they made the dual shock which must be the worst controller of all time. The sticks are not placed properly and it is not ergonomic AT ALL. Instead of ripping off a Nintendo controller and making it better (360 controller), they ripped it off and managed to make it worse.
Preach it! I could write an essay on how bad the Dualshock is.
Title: Re: World Wide Current Gen Install Base Numbers are in...
Post by: RABicle on May 16, 2008, 01:24:55 AM
Looks guys. A playstation killed rat's grandmother ok. So let's jut drop it.
Title: Re: World Wide Current Gen Install Base Numbers are in...
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on May 16, 2008, 11:47:10 AM
