Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Bill Aurion on April 08, 2008, 11:08:40 PM
Title: Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 08, 2008, 11:08:40 PM
But you don't play as Apollo...or Phoenix!
Gyakuten Kenji (DS/Capcom/??)
~ A law adventure game where you act as the prosecutor... ~ Main characters are Miles Edgeworth and Dick Gumshoe... ~ You control Edgeworth, searching for overlooked evidence and inconsistencies at the crime scene... ~ New search and deduction systems are introduced... ~ Appears to be more of a LucasArts-type point-and-click adventure than standard Ace Attorney fare... ~ Shu Takumi, the director of the series, is not involved with development... ~ Story takes place around Trials and Tribulations (Phoenix's era)... ~ More familiar characters besides Edgeworth and Gumshoe will appear in the game... ~ The game is mostly focused on investigation (though it never actually says anything about a lack of trial)... ~ Development progress: 40%
Edit: Now with scans! Scan 1 (http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1752/23156iup590202122566lo2jp7.jpg) Scan 2 (http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/1011/23159iup5902041221047loca9.jpg)
Title: Re: New Ace Attorney announced! (Gyakuten Kenji)
Post by: LuigiHann on April 08, 2008, 11:46:26 PM
Cool. One step closer to head-to-head multiplayer trials, I hope :p
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 09, 2008, 12:00:16 AM
This is cool! Finally, we get to play as the other side of the coin.
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Post by: IceCold on April 09, 2008, 01:23:05 AM
Wow.
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Post by: Myxtika1 Azn on April 09, 2008, 02:08:51 AM
So does this mean that I can forge evidence now? Great! Can't wait.
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Post by: EasyCure on April 09, 2008, 08:53:28 AM
So does this mean that I can forge evidence now? Great! Can't wait.
you can write your own murder confessions or name the defendent in the victims will with a stylus!!
Bus seriously, this is f*cking awesome news. I'll be all over this when it comes out but.... I wonder how this will answer some of those questions we were left with at the end of Apollo's game.
Title: Re: New Ace Attorney announced! (Gyakuten Kenji)
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 09, 2008, 09:10:16 AM
Updated the OP with scans!
And in case of breaking hearts, this IS a spin-off...A LucasArts-esque spin-off! :heart;
Hey look, is that a young Kristoph Gavin hiding in that first scan?
Title: Re: New Ace Attorney announced! (Gyakuten Kenji)
Post by: wandering on April 09, 2008, 09:27:37 AM
3rd person camera during investigation? Interesting...
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Post by: ShyGuy on April 09, 2008, 10:49:49 AM
No character deserves their own game more than Edgeworth.
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Post by: Nick DiMola on April 09, 2008, 10:51:47 AM
The fiancee will be pumped about this one.
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Post by: Deguello on April 09, 2008, 01:24:06 PM
Head to head trials would be ridiculous.
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Post by: Smash_Brother on April 09, 2008, 01:24:26 PM
Edgeworth is easily one of the more entertaining characters in the game because he's so uptight.
Definitely be picking this one up.
Title: Re: New Ace Attorney announced! (Gyakuten Kenji)
Post by: EasyCure on April 09, 2008, 01:36:21 PM
I've been hearing around on other sites the title is Miles Edgeworth: Perfect Prosecutor, is that right?
i hope its set BEFORE Wright comes along and ruins his record. It'll be more interesting to delve into his past and early days as a young hot shot prossecutor anyway.
Title: Re: New Ace Attorney announced! (Gyakuten Kenji)
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 09, 2008, 02:26:26 PM
I've been hearing around on other sites the title is Miles Edgeworth: Perfect Prosecutor, is that right?
It was someone's idea of a joke that is playing off the double vowel Ace Attorney...The name "Gyakuten Kenji" literally means "Turnabout Prosecutor"...
Title: Re: New Ace Attorney announced! (Gyakuten Kenji)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 09, 2008, 02:40:38 PM
So many words start with "P"
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Post by: vudu on April 09, 2008, 02:45:14 PM
Speaking of which, what is it with the case titles Turnabout Such-and-Such? I've never understood that. What the heck is a turnabout?
Title: Re: New Ace Attorney announced! (Gyakuten Kenji)
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on April 09, 2008, 02:53:14 PM
The Japanese title for the series is Turnabout Courtroom, and a turnabout is a reversal.
Title: Re: New Ace Attorney announced! (Gyakuten Kenji)
Post by: EasyCure on April 09, 2008, 02:58:41 PM
I've been hearing around on other sites the title is Miles Edgeworth: Perfect Prosecutor, is that right?
It was someone's idea of a joke that is playing off the double vowel Ace Attorney...The name "Gyakuten Kenji" literally means "Turnabout Prosecutor"...
I figured it wasn't a real translationg, it sounded stupid anyway. As for the whole Turnabout thing.. i got tired of it at first, and well to be honest it still annoys me that every case has "turnabout" in the title, i've grown used to it.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 09, 2008, 05:59:51 PM
EDGEWORTH DIES...and so does Phoenix. Apollo, Gumshoe, Maya, Pearl, Wendy Oldbag, Larry Buttz, Dee Vazquez etc etc etc
Title: Re: New Ace Attorney announced! (Gyakuten Kenji)
Post by: Shecky on April 09, 2008, 08:13:54 PM
Speaking of which, what is it with the case titles Turnabout Such-and-Such? I've never understood that. What the heck is a turnabout?
It's basically the term they use to mean that not only do you get your client off the hook, but also incriminate someone else for the crime... That's the "reversal" aspect UltimatePartyBear was talking about.
To bad in these games, it's more like incriminate the real killer or you lose ;) I always found that kind of funny, but never thought much of it, b/c well it's a game :)
"Your honor, I've just shown without a reasonable doubt that it couldn't be my client!" "But then who really did it?" "Well, I'm not sure, but it couldn't have been...." "GUILTY!"
Title: Re: New Ace Attorney announced! (Gyakuten Kenji)
Post by: LuigiHann on April 09, 2008, 09:57:07 PM
Yeah. Phoenix prosecutes more than he defends.
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Post by: Dasmos on April 09, 2008, 10:50:09 PM
Hopefully these are better than the Ace Attorney games.
Title: Re: New Ace Attorney announced! (Gyakuten Kenji)
Post by: IceCold on April 10, 2008, 12:20:42 AM
Title: Re: New Ace Attorney announced! (Gyakuten Kenji)
Post by: IceCold on April 10, 2008, 12:23:39 AM
Quote
It's basically the term they use to mean that not only do you get your client off the hook, but also incriminate someone else for the crime... That's the "reversal" aspect UltimatePartyBear was talking about.
Huh, I always thought of "turnabout" as how Phoenix/Apollo are always backed into a corner and are about to lose at every turn when they miraculously reverse the case and squeak out a win. In the fifth case of the first game, that lady who sells lunches supported this - she said something about the turnabout theme being popular..
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Post by: bosshogx on April 10, 2008, 10:06:10 AM
How cool would a multi-player court room drama game be? You have 2 players go head to head as attorneys, 1 player to play the judge, 1 player to be the defendant, and multiple players to act as witnesses.
Before each case, each lawyer can explore/view a number of areas and start to gather evidence for the case. This would be a timed event, say 5-10 minutes. Not all evidence would be useful, some would be there to throw you off track.
The game would play out with the lawyers, judge, and witness playing in real time. In court each lawyer takes turns asking questions and can Object a limited number of times. The Judge would have the power to approve or deny objections. The witness would have their character profile in front of them including a list of information based on their perspective of the crime.
The witness player could view a movie of what they saw at the time of the murder. The movie would be their memory of the event and could be interpreted in different ways based on what the player thinks happened. The witness wouldn't be privy to all the details until the lawyer shows them evidence. This may sway their thinking, but would heavily depend on the player "staying in character". It could be that the witness is the murderer and trying to stay out of jail.
The lawyers would each have a 2-3 minute time limit to ask questions. After each side asks their questions, the next witness is called. After x number of witnesses have testified, both lawyers get to make a final speech. The entire process is recorded and sent out to 12 randomly selected Jurors. The Jurors would be selected before the trail started and they would have the option to accept or decline the summons. After playing back the entire trial, the Jurors make a plea of innocent or guilty. Majority wins. The lawyers than get their stats updated.
There's obviously a lot involved in getting something like that to work, but it would be a riot if they could make it happen. The cases would have to come in the form of downloadable content. It would probably make for a console/pc title, but a handheld wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility.
So what do you think?
Title: Re: New Ace Attorney announced! (Gyakuten Kenji)
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 10, 2008, 11:45:32 AM
Information yanked from GAF:
~ Shu Takumi, the director of the series, is not involved with development...(Probably because he's working on the 5th game of the main series...) ~ Story takes place around Trials and Tribulations (Phoenix's era)... ~ More familiar characters besides Edgeworth and Gumshoe will appear in the game... ~ The game is mostly focused on investigation (though it never actually says anything about a lack of trial)... ~ Development progress: 40%
Title: Re: New Ace Attorney announced! (Gyakuten Kenji)
Post by: bosshogx on April 10, 2008, 11:57:56 AM
~ Shu Takumi, the director of the series, is not involved with development...(Probably because he's working on the 5th game of the main series...) ~ Story takes place around Trials and Tribulations (Phoenix's era)... ~ More familiar characters besides Edgeworth and Gumshoe will appear in the game... ~ The game is mostly focused on investigation (though it never actually says anything about a lack of trial)... ~ Development progress: 40%
T&T era, cool. I always thought the investigation aspects of the series were it's weakest point. Trying to figure out where to do next was always frustrating.
Title: Re: New Ace Attorney announced! (Gyakuten Kenji)
Post by: vudu on April 10, 2008, 02:09:55 PM
If they make me play as Franziska I swear to god I will find a way to kill her.
Title: Re: New Ace Attorney announced! (Gyakuten Kenji)
Post by: Deguello on April 10, 2008, 02:16:44 PM
"The game is mostly focused on investigation (though it never actually says anything about a lack of trial)"
Ugh, boo. Figuring stuff out in court is what the game's all about. This might as well be some kind of "spot the difference" game Namco might make.
Title: Re: New Ace Attorney announced! (Gyakuten Kenji)
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 10, 2008, 02:40:40 PM
Title: Re: New Ace Attorney announced! (Gyakuten Kenji)
Post by: Deguello on April 10, 2008, 02:42:17 PM
She has small hands
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Post by: vudu on April 10, 2008, 02:51:39 PM
The better to whip you with.
Title: Re: New Ace Attorney announced! (Gyakuten Kenji)
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 10, 2008, 02:59:40 PM
What do you have against women with small hands? =(
Title: Re: New Ace Attorney announced! (Gyakuten Kenji)
Post by: vudu on April 10, 2008, 03:01:03 PM
The fool with the foolishly small hands asks foolish question to fools.
Title: Re: New Ace Attorney announced! (Gyakuten Kenji)
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 10, 2008, 03:03:41 PM
Ahahaha, I see what this is...
You're exhibiting reaction formation, how cute! :heart;
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Post by: nickmitch on May 05, 2008, 09:58:56 PM
Winner: Bill.
Title: Re: New Ace Attorney announced! (Gyakuten Kenji)
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 05, 2008, 10:16:00 PM
For my prize I want a photo of vudu kissing a picture of Franziska!
Title: Re: New Ace Attorney announced! (Gyakuten Kenji)
Post by: Shecky on May 05, 2008, 10:57:27 PM
I'm suing the both of you for irrelevant bumping
Title: Re: New Ace Attorney announced! (Gyakuten Kenji)
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 05, 2008, 11:39:56 PM
Uhhh, UHHHH...
Have a...trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRrw6Y54DX8)? =)
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth
Post by: vudu on February 01, 2010, 09:33:32 PM
MEGA-BUMP!!
There's a demo up on the Nintendo Channel! Go get it now!!
It's short (~10 min.) and it's mostly reading (like all Ace Attorney games) but it shows off some of the new mechanics nicely. There's a new ability called Logic where you connect two (or more) pieces of evidence to create a new piece of evidence and another called Contradiction where you use a piece of evidence you've collected to pin-point constrictions while investigating.
From what I can tell, if you like the Phoenix Wright games but feel they started to get a bit stale this new game might shake things up enough to warrant a second look.
EDIT: Yeah, so NWR posted impressions for the demo (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=30527.0). They're much more detailed than mine.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth
Post by: Peachylala on February 07, 2010, 11:18:12 PM
I played the flash version a few months back, and I was pretty impressed with the new Logic mechanic. But I find that the problem with the Ace Attorney games is their lack of replay value.
Still, they are good games.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on February 16, 2010, 05:57:39 AM
It ships today. Please post if you see it on shelves!
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth
Post by: Peachylala on February 16, 2010, 06:55:03 PM
Picked up a copy of it, enjoying it so far.
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Post by: S-U-P-E-R on February 16, 2010, 07:18:14 PM
I'm playing it now, it's rad
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Post by: Stratos on February 16, 2010, 09:38:45 PM
I just got the demo and I like the new parts they added.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth
Post by: Shecky on April 14, 2010, 02:09:57 AM
Aw crap, been busy and out of the loop and this finally comes out.... which means it will probably be impossible to find a new copy at a sane price.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth
Post by: Stratos on April 14, 2010, 03:21:06 AM
I want to wait to get it until I catch up in the series. I playing the WiiWare ones and then I'm getting the last DS one and this so I get them all in order.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth
Post by: IceCold on April 18, 2010, 04:48:40 PM
Okay so I've been playing through this. It's good.. not as awesome as the Phoenix games but still above average. I guess I should stop waiting for an Ace Attorney game to capture the same magic as the first PW did. But there are moments which provide some hope. I just ran across this one and it's awesome.
Kay: And remember, you have to yell, "Badger GET!" each time, or it doesn't count!
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth
Post by: MoronSonOfBoron on April 20, 2010, 12:08:42 AM
Finally got around to finishing the game. It's cute, has quite a bit of fanservice, and introduces some interesting new characters that work well as foils to the tenured cast members. Overall a much easier difficulty level than previous entries, I think. Overarching story is more detached than previous games in the series; this is both a good and a bad thing, but it's probably the best choice they could have made.
Still not quite sold on the character of Kay Faraday, but I'll have to accept her existence.
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth
Post by: Shecky on June 19, 2010, 10:08:14 AM
Just finished the game... very well done. Even von Karma is toned down and easier to tolerate even, dare I say, likable. Gumshoe seems a bit more exaggerated than ever and could use a touch of that other detective if you ask me. Anyone remember how Edgeworth suggests switching places - becoming a defense lawyer... it's funny how this game makes you feel more like a defense attorney than the PW ones did. Nice hidden throwbacks here and there too... especially if you remember the dialog from the first game. I ab-SO-lutely enjoyed it ;)
Title: Re: Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth
Post by: gbuell on March 11, 2011, 12:49:55 PM
I'm nearing the end of this. Really good, a bit easier than previous games but that's okay. Love the "Logic" stuff. However, when I bought the game, I didn't realize that the courtroom stuff was completely removed.... I kinda miss that setting.
