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Title: enter the matrix
Post by: thecool1 on March 31, 2003, 12:15:25 PM
WOW....i just saw the trailer....this game looks pimp! what do u guys think?
Title: enter the matrix
Post by: kennyb27 on March 31, 2003, 12:40:22 PM
I think it looks OK.  The only reason I say this is because of all the movies I have seen (given that is not too many, maybe 4 or so) so many different things are going on.  This perplexes me because, either this game has a large amount of moves (bad because one will likely have to hit extreme button combinations and I'm not the button-mashing type gamer) or one can only do certain things at one time (bad because the gameplay is restricted).  However, I will hold off my decision on this game until I read some reviews and rent it.
Title: enter the matrix
Post by: kennyb27 on May 04, 2003, 02:49:12 PM
Time to resurrect this discussion for a bit.

I just got around to reading the PGC preview of this game (about time, I'm usually quicker with that kind of thing).  And I was confused by this one part:
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The game won’t be all razzle-dazzle. People hoping to really enter the Matrix will be able to hack into their game for an old-fashioned text-based experience. The more proficient your hacking skills, the more you will be able to alter the reality of your world.
What exactly does this mean?  Will they have something like a DOS screen?  If so, what will it do?
Title: RE: enter the matrix
Post by: PIAC on May 04, 2003, 02:57:23 PM
hey, im interested too now! i have no h4x000ring sk33lz, so i wont be able to
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Post by: "Sky" on May 04, 2003, 04:15:55 PM
The game certainly has style, but impressions I've read so far haven't necessarily been well... favorable. Nevertheless it'll still sell millions of copies... quality not needed to sell.
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Post by: Zy[T]HeR on May 04, 2003, 07:22:24 PM
I think people will expect the title to be the same quality as the movie, which it probably wont.

Im not sure if I will pick it up but im leaning towards not.
Title: RE: enter the matrix
Post by: aoi tsuki on May 05, 2003, 03:06:16 AM
i have a feeling that, despite my better judgement now, i'll watch the movie, and while still lulled by the special effects, go and pick up the game. Sounds like it'll be an above average game, though better than most of the movie-to-game conversions we've seen before.

The "hacking" concept sounds like a debug mode. Essentially, there'd be different items like gravity, inertia, collision detection, etc. and you could change the values of them, likely at any point during the game. Since the Matrix is really just a detailed virtual world, it lends itself really well to this. If this is true, it could up the replay of the game a bit, at least for players willing to experiment.
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Post by: StRaNgE on May 05, 2003, 07:33:54 AM
if the game was based on Neo and trinity i'd be much more interested.

as of now a rental shopping i will go.
Title: enter the matrix
Post by: Gharakh on May 05, 2003, 11:03:02 AM
if the game was based on neo, it would just be like playing a game on god-mode/invincible. maybe fun for a bit but no real skill, and gets boring really fast. i think that if theres a version to get of this game it will probably be the pc one. it just seems like they'll be able to do more with a mouse/keyboard combo than with any of the controllers. i have no idea how the controls are going to be set up but just from the amount of moves i've seen in movies etc. it seems this way...
Title: enter the matrix
Post by: kennyb27 on May 05, 2003, 02:04:11 PM
I was thinking the same thing about the controller layout...
Title: RE: enter the matrix
Post by: Locke Cole on May 05, 2003, 03:00:08 PM
lol trying to hack using the Gamecube controller.  You would have to move the control stick up everytime you wanted to change a letter.
Title: enter the matrix
Post by: Grey Ninja on May 05, 2003, 03:05:47 PM
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Originally posted by: kennyb27
Time to resurrect this discussion for a bit.

I just got around to reading the PGC preview of this game (about time, I'm usually quicker with that kind of thing).  And I was confused by this one part:
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The game won’t be all razzle-dazzle. People hoping to really enter the Matrix will be able to hack into their game for an old-fashioned text-based experience. The more proficient your hacking skills, the more you will be able to alter the reality of your world.
What exactly does this mean?  Will they have something like a DOS screen?  If so, what will it do?


Now THAT sounds interesting.  Provided it is realistic at all, and not some button mashing mini-game.
Title: enter the matrix
Post by: Zomboi on May 05, 2003, 03:24:21 PM
Yup, I recently pre-ordered it and I am very intrigued by that piece in PGC's article. I wonder how it would work *ponders*. Hey wasn't there a PC game I think it was called Neocron or something like that, and it allowed you to hack certain doors and stuff by blocking a little spark like thing. I dunno maybe I'm just blathering on to myself here (I have a tendency to do that).
Title: RE: enter the matrix
Post by: KDR_11k on May 06, 2003, 06:29:27 AM
Imagine a geek developing some Perl-script that finds and deletes all Agents...

Or: killall -9 Agent

I don't even want to imagine what some people will do to that game...
Title: RE: enter the matrix
Post by: TheOnionMan on May 06, 2003, 10:38:13 AM
I think this game is getting way too much hype. This is happening cuz so many people are obsessed with the Matrix.
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Post by: Hemmorrhoid on May 06, 2003, 10:41:51 AM
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Originally posted by: Gharakh
if the game was based on neo, it would just be like playing a game on god-mode/invincible. maybe fun for a bit but no real skill, and gets boring really fast. i think that if theres a version to get of this game it will probably be the pc one. it just seems like they'll be able to do more with a mouse/keyboard combo than with any of the controllers. i have no idea how the controls are going to be set up but just from the amount of moves i've seen in movies etc. it seems this way...


it actually wouldnt be like playing GOD, otherwise there would be no story for Reloaded and Revolutions

its obvious that while Neo is the toughest, hes still not totally invincible, you know he has to fight 100 agent smiths in Reloaded

damn i wanna see that movie

Title: enter the matrix
Post by: dafunkk12 on May 06, 2003, 12:02:21 PM
I've been hearing only lukewarm previews of the game.  But if anything will entice me to pick it up, it would be EB's new "freebie" (read:  after rebate) offer.  Buy the game and get the Animatrix DVD (!) and strategy guide (meh...) free after $20 and $15 rebate, respectively.  That still leaves you at $85+tax less in your wallet until several months later.  I don't remember if the rebates were in the form of a check or gift voucher.
Title: enter the matrix
Post by: Don'tHate742 on May 06, 2003, 12:32:13 PM
You can download the DVD of edonkey2000....like mwa

Anyways if the game has the moves that it boasts, then I am a happy camper. Thats all I would want to do anyways, just go up to a group of people, whip out a bow (karate stick) then whoop up on them. Kinda like Max Paye with the Kung Fu mod...if anyone knows what i'm talking about.
Title: RE: enter the matrix
Post by: nathan on May 06, 2003, 02:01:19 PM
if the game is going to be long (no 007 AUF or nightfire crap) and has a multiplayer mode, im buying it without a doubt.  so far, the matrix website is saying 25-30 hrs of gameplay; however, ive heard nothing of multiplayer.  im pretty content with any decent game and this looks pretty promising.  and plus, i have $23 credit at gamestop that i need to use .  if its possible that i can rent it first, i believe i will; but i have yet to make a final decision.  
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Post by: Locke Cole on May 06, 2003, 02:24:43 PM
I really hope this game lives up to the hype though, the game looks awesome and looks like it plays awesome.  I mean using the matrix moves will be the best part of the game.  Hopefully this game is no button masher.
Title: enter the matrix
Post by: GoldShadow1 on May 06, 2003, 06:38:09 PM
It just looks like another beat-em-up.  I want a Matrix game that really makes use of the franchise - where you can go in and out of the Matrix at your will and make decisions.  Maybe an action-RPG style would be good (makes sense, considering how the characters get so much better as the original movie progresses).  I wanna be able to make difficult ethical decisions and have to think my way through to some degree.  This game is just a pure action game.
Title: enter the matrix
Post by: Don'tHate742 on May 07, 2003, 12:19:23 PM
But so is the movie....its pure action, unless I missed something?
Title: RE: enter the matrix
Post by: Rich on May 07, 2003, 01:19:20 PM
hey guys the "hacking" thing that kennyb27 mentions is actually something were you can give yourself items. Like in the movie Neo picked out his guns before saving morpheus, i think you can "hack" yourself some guns to start the level with.
Title: enter the matrix
Post by: kennyb27 on May 07, 2003, 02:26:44 PM
I'm afraid to see how the hacking works with the GC controller.  Imagine scrolling through letters, no fun whatsoever.
Title: RE: enter the matrix
Post by: aoi tsuki on May 07, 2003, 02:32:35 PM
In the example i gave, you wouldn't need to type, just scroll through variables and values. Not as fast as a keyboard, but much easier than typing in PSO with the controller.  
Title: enter the matrix
Post by: GoldShadow1 on May 08, 2003, 08:46:08 AM
I don't think the movie was pure action, Don'tHate.  I haven't seen The Matrix Reloaded, but if it is nothing but action I will be very disappointed.  The first movie had a lot of cool sci-fi ideas and concepts, an intriguing story that wraps up war, science-fiction and religion together.  It was full of suspense - like crawling down the shaft - and treachery, and love.  The parts that are just pure action are some of my least favorite parts, although they are still very cool.  The best part of the movie is in the very beginning.  If you take away all that, The Matrix would just be another martial-arts movie.
Title: enter the matrix
Post by: Don'tHate742 on May 08, 2003, 12:16:21 PM
But the action scenes are what's left in peoples head.....that and the part where he picks through all those guns. Its becuase those parts were the most memorable and fun to have witnessed. I geuss we are opposites my friend.
Title: RE: enter the matrix
Post by: Caster13 on May 08, 2003, 12:57:47 PM
Text-based experience hacking?

Keyboards for the GameCube?
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Post by: nathan on May 08, 2003, 12:58:06 PM
Whatever it turns out to be, I'll bet I'll still be glad I bought it .  If it's just pure action, then what's wrong with that?  As long as it's good "action," I won't be complaining.  I mean, it's got a good concept, so what if it's all about "shootin' 'em up"?  Opening up on your MP5, emptying a clip, all while dogding bullets; when thats over, go throw out some crazy punches and kicks.  All I'm saying is, it's a great concept, if the game is well produced and has very-few to no bugs, I think it'll turn out great. . . whether it's a mind-boggling action game or 100% shoot 'em up James Bond style.

Though I might have a hard time deciding between this or Hitman 2.  So many games and such a small allowance
Title: enter the matrix
Post by: The Omen on May 08, 2003, 03:32:35 PM
  I was skeptical about this game-until today.  I just saw a little 5 minute preview of the game on tech tv , and it looks great.  The fighting looks like it does in the movie.  And they said you can 'hack'into levels to find weapons, exits etc...  It really looks good to me now.
Title: enter the matrix
Post by: Don'tHate742 on May 08, 2003, 05:26:02 PM
Do you have to order tech TV?
Title: RE: enter the matrix
Post by: aoi tsuki on May 08, 2003, 05:59:59 PM
No, it's available with standard cable.
Title: RE: enter the matrix
Post by: nathan on May 09, 2003, 05:02:06 PM
http://gamestop.com/gs/matrixpop/matrixinterview.html

A little over half-way down the page talks about the action part.  It tells some about the "hacking" but not a whole lot.  Just saw this browsing the site, thought you all might like to see it, too.
Title: enter the matrix
Post by: ThePerm on May 09, 2003, 08:06:52 PM
depends on where you live..i dont get it with my digital cable, and i dont get it for my normal cable. My brother gets it on his sattelite.
Title: enter the matrix
Post by: nolimit19 on May 10, 2003, 12:27:12 AM
i will be suprised if this game turns out to be good at all.
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Post by: Alliedrally68 on May 13, 2003, 06:40:08 AM
Well, I'm hoping it'll be good.  I pre-ordered it awhile ago.  We're gonna pick it up while we're waiting in line to see the movie and put my gamecube and TV in the back of my blazer and play the game while we're waiting in line for the movie!  It's gonna be soo bomb!
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Post by: Hemmorrhoid on May 13, 2003, 06:56:16 AM
im really more interested in the movie, but the game might be really fun
it cost 10million to develop, which doesnt have to mean its good though

if its decent action, good story and awesome moves im buying it
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Post by: Alliedrally68 on May 13, 2003, 07:04:34 AM
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it cost 10million to develop


Pretty amazing that it's already turned a profit in pre-orders only (assuming that people put full money down).  I think I read somewhere that Enter the Matrix has already passed 4 million pre-orders over the three systems (that may include PC as well).  Doing the math:

         4,000,000 (orders) x $50 (cost) =  $200,000,000 = Holy freakin' crap!  
Title: enter the matrix
Post by: SCF on May 13, 2003, 10:47:56 AM
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Originally posted by: Alliedrally68
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it cost 10million to develop


Pretty amazing that it's already turned a profit in pre-orders only (assuming that people put full money down).  I think I read somewhere that Enter the Matrix has already passed 4 million pre-orders over the three systems (that may include PC as well).  Doing the math:

         4,000,000 (orders) x $50 (cost) =  $200,000,000 = Holy freakin' crap!


Yeah but remember how many people of those pre order but don't get the game . Just what happend to Zelda:WW pre orders where like 900,000 but it didn't sold all of them.