Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: nitsu niflheim on February 15, 2008, 10:58:35 PM
I want the 8 track to come back.
Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: KnowsNothing on February 16, 2008, 01:44:36 AM
rawr
Not that'd I've actually invested money into this format war, but there IS an HD-DVD player in the house and a few hd-dvds, so I'm disappointed that the format lost. From what I've heard hd-dvd is the superior format in many ways, and I know that at least in terms of DRM blu-ray is pretty limiting. Ah, such is life. I guess now will be the time to jump on all the upcoming hd-dvd sales.
Either way, standard DVD won't be dead for a long, long time to come, so no worries.
Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 16, 2008, 01:56:10 AM
I'm hoping wireless video transmission boxes become more prevalent, like the D-Link DivX Connected (http://www.divx.com/connected/product.php) box.
Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: Ian Sane on February 16, 2008, 01:57:31 AM
So Blu-Ray is the new Laserdisc. Good for it.
VHS lasted for about 20 years. There's no way we're all going to abandon DVD in less than ten.
Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: Caliban on February 16, 2008, 02:22:37 AM
I'm hoping wireless video transmission boxes become more prevalent, like the D-Link DivX Connected (http://www.divx.com/connected/product.php) box.
I've been on the lookout for this technology too. No more blank dvds to be bought or burned, mint.
Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 16, 2008, 02:49:09 AM
Well I have an HD-DVD player (for my 360) and of course the PS3. Supposedly from what I hear, HD-DVD is superior in that they required companies to adopt a particular format, while Blu-Ray is still struggling, heck I think they just started releasing Blu-ray profile 1.1 which means Blu-Ray player with 1.0 won't be able to play some features in upcoming Blu-Ray disks (and you can't upgrade your profile!). With that said Blu-Ray does hold more and from what I understand the disks are quite scratch resistant.
Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: NWR_pap64 on February 16, 2008, 03:14:58 AM
Blu-Ray movies have better graphics, who needs games?!?!
Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: Blue Plant on February 17, 2008, 08:26:49 AM
This didn't end the way I wanted, but at least now all the Blu-Ray and HD-DVD sniping amongst tech site geeks will be over faster. I had nothing invested yet because of the initial cost of entry, and considering which side won I really won't be buying into the high-def disc craze for a long while.
Good job, Hollywood!
Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: Pale on February 17, 2008, 09:07:19 AM
This didn't end the way I wanted, but at least now all the Blu-Ray and HD-DVD sniping amongst tech site geeks will be over faster. I had nothing invested yet because of the initial cost of entry, and considering which side won I really won't be buying into the high-def disc craze for a long while.
Good job, Hollywood!
Is this just because you are anti-sony, or because it costs more than HD-DVD?
I for one, am happying that Blu-Ray won, only because I have a PS3. To be perfectly honest though, I agree with everyone that is saying neither will have the time to totally take over DVD. The difference just isn't THAT high. We are getting to the point that in many cases, how a movie was filmed becomes the image quality bottleneck, not the resolution of the TV. I have watched several blu-ray movies on a nice big screen. The only ones that REALLY stand head and shoulder above their DVD counterpart are the animated features. Besides that, I almost can't tell the difference between a Blu-Ray movie and a regular DVD being upscaled by my PS3.
Oh, I do have Planet Earth on Blu-Ray, and that is absolutely stunning... but still.
Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: BigJim on February 17, 2008, 05:07:09 PM
Not just Netflix and Wal-mart, but Best Buy also. It's definitely done.
I'm glad there's winner... if just to shut up all the argumentative geeks. ;) On the downside there will be less pressure to reduce player prices now.
Now if only more movies would use two-layered discs rather than short-change us with single-layer, 20 mbps video.
Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: Stogi on February 18, 2008, 02:59:40 AM
PS3'S MIGHT START SELLING AFTERALL
Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: UncleBob on February 18, 2008, 08:15:50 AM
Is this just because you are anti-sony, or because it costs more than HD-DVD?
Perhaps it's because HD-DVD was the better format, while Blu-Ray was a rushed, incomplete format that's soon going to render most standalone players virtually useless?
Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: Blue Plant on February 18, 2008, 10:10:37 AM
What UncleBob said... While I liked the larger storage of Blu-Ray, the features of HD-DVD surpassed it. And yes, it was the price.
Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: NWR_Karl on February 18, 2008, 10:18:38 AM
Personally, I've moved onto digital downloads. Xbox Live Marketplace + iTunes + Um, Totally Non-Illegal Methods = I have everything I need.
Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: Kairon on February 18, 2008, 10:41:47 AM
VHS lasted for about 20 years. There's no way we're all going to abandon DVD in less than ten.
QFT. QF so much T.
Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: DAaaMan64 on February 18, 2008, 11:31:54 AM
DRM = Balls
Title: Re: Is it over? [HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray]
Post by: ShyGuy on February 19, 2008, 09:11:06 PM
So, if Bluray catches on, I think I will pick up a PS3 (When they drop below $300, that is) From what I understand it upscales DVDs pretty well, right?
Plus, I can get RE5 if it doesn't come out for the Wii
Title: Re: Is it over? [HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray]
Post by: Pale on February 19, 2008, 09:21:24 PM
Yeah. It makes DVDs look almost as good as most Blu-Rays in my opinion =P.
Title: Re: Is it over? [HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray]
Post by: Ceric on February 19, 2008, 09:53:11 PM
Buy my understanding the Medium itself is better for Blu-Ray while HD-DVD had more features around it but, software features can be upgraded later.
Title: Re: Is it over? [HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray]
Post by: vudu on February 19, 2008, 10:05:05 PM
Can someone explain about these extra features that HD-DVD has? This is honestly the first time I've heard of them.
Title: Re: Is it over? [HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray]
Post by: ShyGuy on February 19, 2008, 10:24:59 PM
Yeah, I'd like to hear these features as well. Most DVD features are crap. Remember when DVDs came with games? Really sucky games like memory match or watch the whole movie over and then rearrange the scenes! Stupid.
The only features I think work are:
commentary tracks Extra footage (deleted scenes, outtakes) Making of documentary
I don't care about cast bios, or links to web sites, or Piracy is bad commercials that you can't skip.
Title: Re: Is it over? [HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray]
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 19, 2008, 10:29:36 PM
Buy my understanding the Medium itself is better for Blu-Ray while HD-DVD had more features around it but, software features can be upgraded later.
I don't believe that is the case especially when it comes to Blu-Ray profiles. From what I understand the new Blu-Ray profiles (that allow more features) can only be obtained by BUYING another blu-ray player.
Title: Re: Is it over? [HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray]
Post by: Pale on February 19, 2008, 10:50:12 PM
Well that only depends on your Blu Ray player GP. The PS3s upgrade themselves with firmware. It's obvious that that would be possible in a stand alone player too.
Title: Re: Is it over? [HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray]
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 19, 2008, 10:55:17 PM
In a cracked nutshell,
HD-DVDs had a finalized standard with interactivity features included out the box. Connecting to the internet for extra info and junk and spying on your movie habits. HD-DVD's interfaces are authored using web technologies; you get the internet info streamed to you and it's displayed like webpages do.
In Blu-Ray's BDLive (Profile 2.0), internet connection capability is mandatory. Previous profiles do not utilize interweb at all.
Early Blu-Ray adopters (stand-alone units) are forked since they can't access Profile 2.0 junk without getting a modern player.
HD-DVD adopters are forked since the format is dead.
Title: Re: Is it over? [HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray]
Post by: ShyGuy on February 19, 2008, 11:13:07 PM
Can someone site me some examples of this profile junk in a bluray movie? I want to know if I should care or not.
Title: Re: Is it over? [HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray]
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 20, 2008, 12:05:29 AM
Well it is over now Toshiba throws in towel and drops out http://www.tvweek.com/news/2008/02/toshiba_throws_in_towel_on_hd.php (http://www.tvweek.com/news/2008/02/toshiba_throws_in_towel_on_hd.php)
Title: Re: Is it over? [HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray]
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 20, 2008, 12:11:50 AM
It's time I looked for an up-converting DVD player that doesn't play high-def discs.
Title: Re: Is it over? [HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray]
Post by: ThePerm on February 21, 2008, 11:39:27 PM
I doubt BlueRay is the future at all. The way i see it is that we should move back to solid state media. SD cards will have comparable space to BRDs in about 4 years with the possibility of being updated without having to update hardware. Combine that with the ability to download then you got something.
Heres what I want I want a Box that accepts solid state discs that are of equal size of 3.5inch floppy disks, but use some sort of solid state sd card technology. On it I want to be able to watch tv channels in a menu system simular to Wii's. For each Channel I would pay 10 cents up to 75 cents per channel per month. Also, I would like to be able to watch any tv show I want any time I want, accepting that I may get brief 30 second commercials every 10-15 minutes depending one the length of the show. Outside of downloadable content I would hope that movies on the cart-like format would be available for purchase inside stores. I would also like this box to have a basic user friendly video editing program. Scenes can be arranged similar to a slideshow program, and scene length can be cut quicktime style by dragging the ends along the play bar. Also, it would include layering, screening, and overlay options. These videos can be stored on these cart-like disks. Each person would have their own profile Youtube style and can decide whether their stored videos are public. Oh and the box uses a modified wii remote that has added playback buttons and would also contain a usb port in which a keyboard can be plugged in.
Title: Re: Is it over? [HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray]
Post by: Ceric on February 22, 2008, 12:19:02 AM
Nice Idea Perm. I thank that next System Nintendo will go back to Solid State. I think Movies will also eventually move that way as well and keep the small SD sized format.
Title: Re: Is it over? [HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray]
Post by: ThePerm on February 23, 2008, 09:49:17 PM
damn right somebody likes my idea its only the logical next step, also stations like nbc, cbs, fox, abc, and the cw would by default be free. I think the future of tv is picking your channels. I only want certain channels, and if i cease to like a channel then i waat to get rid of it instantly. Cox already has something similar, but you buy channels in blocks, and thats not good enough, I had to loose BBC america to get G4 tv, i shouldn't have to trade Dr Who for Ninja Warrior. It would be cool to have a programable channel, you could preset how it switches between channel programing, and if you want to see something else you just change the channel and it still goes by its regular scheduling.
