Post by: Smash_Brother on January 20, 2008, 03:19:08 PM
At 4:20 on this video:
http://wii.com/jp/movies/smashbros-movie1/
These can be seen. See the icons in the lower right corner?
From the blog:
Also, some stickers can only be placed on certain characters. Stickers whose range of usage is limited in this fashion are proportionally stronger when placed appropriately.
There you have it: Lucario is in and JP and Ness are back.
FYI, I took these myself from the video.
Post by: that Baby guy on January 20, 2008, 03:26:39 PM
Post by: Dasmos on January 20, 2008, 03:26:50 PM
Also what's that red thing next to Pikachu? The Pokemon trainer possibly.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 20, 2008, 03:26:52 PM
The funny thing? I think the latest trailer was altered after Sakurai updated about the stickers also being power ups.
In the first version, it has the same footage except that the squares are blank. But in this new version the info about the power up and the character it works on is present.
So if no one figured out till now was because it was kept a secret till now.
Post by: Sarail on January 20, 2008, 03:28:01 PM
So, does this mean clones are back in? I was under the impression that Brawl wasn't going to include any at all. Unless Ness' moves have been completely retooled. Which, if that's the case, then Ness will probably play more like his actual character in his actual game.
Post by: that Baby guy on January 20, 2008, 03:38:20 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 20, 2008, 03:40:20 PM
Post by: that Baby guy on January 20, 2008, 03:45:31 PM
Post by: Sarail on January 20, 2008, 03:55:14 PM
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Originally posted by: thatguy
Yeah, I posted about it in the Brawl updates thread, too. What's interesting is that the Animal Crossing sticker on the Dojo has something written in that area, but we can only see what looks to be the left half of a "U."
"Use with:"
"Use on:"
"Use for:"
"Usable on:"
I bet it's one of those. :P
Post by: that Baby guy on January 20, 2008, 04:00:41 PM
Post by: Sarail on January 20, 2008, 04:13:48 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on January 20, 2008, 04:37:13 PM
However, I did realize this: this might not be Ness. It could be Ninten:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mother_characters#Ninten
Ninten was the "Marth" of the Mother series, so his inclusion could make a LOT more sense...
Post by: that Baby guy on January 20, 2008, 04:42:20 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on January 20, 2008, 04:49:34 PM
Besides, that picture is far too small to discern which it is, and the resolution is too small as well.
Post by: that Baby guy on January 20, 2008, 04:57:10 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on January 20, 2008, 05:00:58 PM
Post by: Tanookisuit on January 20, 2008, 05:25:37 PM
The weirdest thing is those areas look blank to me even on the Wii site... unless I pause the video- then the symbols appear. WTF?
Post by: DAaaMan64 on January 20, 2008, 05:58:52 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on January 20, 2008, 06:02:54 PM
Pausing it at the right frame was the only way to do it.
Post by: Tanookisuit on January 20, 2008, 06:07:55 PM
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Originally posted by: DAaaMan64
Not to play Buzz Killington, but did you see it before they changed it? Cause I don't think it would difficult to fake these.
It's still there. Look for yourself.
Post by: DAaaMan64 on January 20, 2008, 06:20:41 PM
Post by: Arbok on January 20, 2008, 06:31:43 PM
However... now I'm really concerned about Mewtwo, as that seems to be a grouping of the Pokemon characters there. Maybe he wasn't unlocked on the version of the video? Maybe Lucario replaces him after all as so many had been guessing? Maybe those groupings don't cover everyone in their respective franchise? Maybe Mewtwo is an enemy in the Subspace Emissary (like Bowser) and therefore can't be equipped with stickers? Wait and see I guess.
Post by: anubis6789 on January 20, 2008, 06:44:58 PM
Not saying he is still in, I am just saying that there is little evidence either way.
Post by: Sessha on January 20, 2008, 07:07:03 PM
Post by: Caterkiller on January 20, 2008, 08:53:40 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 21, 2008, 01:08:00 AM
Post by: tombo125 on January 21, 2008, 02:29:16 AM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
Three characters confirmed:
At 4:20 on this video:
http://wii.com/jp/movies/smashbros-movie1/
These can be seen. See the icons in the lower right corner?
From the blog:
Also, some stickers can only be placed on certain characters. Stickers whose range of usage is limited in this fashion are proportionally stronger when placed appropriately.
There you have it: Lucario is in and JP and Ness are back.
FYI, I took these myself from the video.
Why exactly does that mean they are playable? There is also a sticker of baby bowser, does that mean he is automatically playable? Maybe I am misunderstanding this. By the way, I hope you are right.
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 21, 2008, 02:46:35 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 21, 2008, 06:17:37 AM
Lucas does not have the same moves as Ness and will most likely play much different than Ness. Besides I really like the whole idea of Fire and Ice characters for opposites.
Both Jigglypuff and Ness have been in every Smash game, and both are fan favorite characters.
It for that reason I believe that Luigi, Marth, Captain Falcon and a new Gannondorf will be represented in the game.
Post by: Arbok on January 21, 2008, 06:42:07 AM
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
You know I never understood why people assumed Ness and Jigglypuff were going to be taken out of Smash anyway.
I can't understand Jigglypuff, since she was a unique character and was mentioned in the interview with David Hayter. ...Ness though. Well, most signs pointed to him getting axed, since Lucas appears to have his moveset only slightly modified and some of the cryptic remarks made on the Dojo about Ness in the past tense.
However, very happy he made it in when all was said and done. Now I just hope he is able to stand out as a clearly different character when compared to Lucas.
Post by: Smash_Brother on January 21, 2008, 06:56:16 AM
After Mother 3 was finally out, it looked like they planned to use Lucas instead of Ness, hence why most believed Ness would be out.
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 21, 2008, 07:18:15 AM
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
Lucas does not have the same moves as Ness and will most likely play much different than Ness. Besides I really like the whole idea of Fire and Ice characters for opposites.
Lucas has PK Fire as well, so perhaps it should be better worded "Flash VS Ice"? Actually, we have no idea if Ness is getting a whole new move set or not, but I'd personally prefer it...
Post by: stevey on January 21, 2008, 09:31:44 AM
Also how did anyone find them, there impossible to see while playing.
Better yet, did someone Nintendo intend to leave this there to test us O_O
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 21, 2008, 09:42:45 AM
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Originally posted by: stevey
Are you sure it's Lucario? Look like wolf link to me...
Also how did any find them, there impossible to see while playing, better yet did someone Nintendo intend to leave this thereO_O
Its Lucario. Not only is he with the other Pokemon characters if you look closely you'll see that he has two big dreadlocks on each side of his head. Wolf Link never had any of those features.
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 21, 2008, 09:59:09 AM
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Originally posted by: stevey
Also how did anyone find them, there impossible to see while playing.
Ninty edited the original clip...
Post by: Caterkiller on January 21, 2008, 03:21:46 PM
You know what my logic may not stand since I just noticed a picture on the Dojo that has stickers usable for Kirby, Metaknight, and Dedede. Now I do consider them bad guys but we all know they are "good" sometimes. So maybe they are with the good guys as well? Hmm... but the leaders of what ever those new things are called do have Metaknights ship, so did they steal it or did he loan it out? Those 2 are in a very gray area.
Post by: Dirk Temporo on January 21, 2008, 05:51:24 PM
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Originally posted by: Caterkiller
you know if mewtwo is considered a bad guy, then thats probably the main reason why he didn't show up with the others. So far in the adventure mode the only characters shown playable were the good guys right? And I imagine that the Sub Space Emissary is only playable with the good guys.
That would be the worst decision they could ever possibly make. Not to mention overwhelmingly retarded.
Post by: nickmitch on January 21, 2008, 06:03:15 PM
