Post by: mouse_clicker on March 28, 2003, 04:00:26 PM
Post by: rpglover on March 28, 2003, 05:02:39 PM
i will say that the last 2 seasons of the simpsons have been disappointing compaired to their earlier stuff
futurama is good, but i dont think as good
another good show like that was family guy- they had some good stuff on that show
although nothing can beat the simpsons
one of my favorite quotes comes from lionel hutz- "he's had it in for me since i accidentally ran over his dog. But replace the word dog
with son and the word accidentally with repeatedly."
or even homer's famous "don't you hate pants?"
i think that if you compair futurama to the simpsons now- definately its better
but the simpsons in their prime- no way- too many good quotes and episodes
although one of my personal favorites is with lenny and carl-- carl: so lenny sending some outgoing mail?
lenny: you know it
carl: yeah i'll probably send some out tomorrow
lenny: i hear that
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 28, 2003, 08:08:46 PM
To Leela about getting an extra eye transplanted-
Zoidberg: "What you should get is an ink sacc implanted! It helps you escape from predators."
Farnsworth: "That's the dumbest idea I've ever heard- come here, you!"
Zoidberg squirts Fransworth with ink then crab walks away-
Zoidberg: "Woop woop woop woop woop woop woop woop!"
Or when Planetary Express was going to ship those little love hearts:
About the stuffed, cuddly bears-
Man: "We find it's cheaper to genetically engineer them then pick out the cutest and cuddliest and stuff them full of flame retardent love!"
Actually, Amazon.com has a hgue collection of quotes from the first season alone, all great.
Post by: PIAC on March 29, 2003, 01:59:04 AM
family guy, the simpsons, and futurama all top notch cartoons, i love them all equally (include invader zim into that group too)
one of my all time favorite futurama quotes is where they goto the lost atlantic city
(they are under water)
zoidburg: my house burnt down noooo
hermies: that raises a few questions
bender: oh tahts where i left my cigar
hermies: that just raises further questions!!
i most likely haven't quoted it properly, but anyway its one of the best moments
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 29, 2003, 02:01:57 PM
(Fry is talknig to a man in the alley)
Fry: Well yeah, I guess I have had trouble breathing under water lately. I'll take the gills.
Man: And since you'll have the gills, you won't need your old lungs, will you?"
Fry: "I can't see why not."
I haven't seen Family Guy in a long time.
I always miss it and my friends never feel like telling me. I'll catch it sometime.And in my opinion, these are the top 10 cartoons of all time:
1. Loony Tunes
2. Dexter’s Lab
3. Samurai Jack
4. Futurama
5. Johnny Bravo
6. The Simpsons
7. Mission Hill
8. South Park
9. Angry Beavers
10. Aqua Teen Hungerforce
Post by: rpglover on March 29, 2003, 05:26:50 PM
mine would be:
1) loony toons
2) simpsons
3) dbz
4) dragonball
5) southpark
6) robotech
7) outlaw star
8) family guy
9) space ghost
10) futurama
as you can probably see, i really love anime cartoons- very good action and stories
but i also love my comedies
oh yeah--mel blanc is the MAN (if you dont know who he is you should be shot)
others that were very close included samuri jack (one of my favorites because of the art style they use which kicks total ass), johnny bravo, definately cowboy bebop, scooby doo (the originals), and (yes i will admit it ...) pokemon (for the first couple seasons)
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 29, 2003, 05:39:09 PM
One of the most talented voice characterizers that ever lived. I once read that he did the voice for Barney Rubble in the Flinstones (another great cartoon) for every single episode, even when he got in a serious car accident and they had to bring the sound equipment into his hospital room. Chuck Jones, Friz Freleng, Robert McKimson, Tex Avery, and Bob Clampett were also probably the best directors cartoons had to offer.As for anime, I watch it and enjoy most of it, especially Dragonball, Dragonball Z, and the many Gundam series, but they don't rank that high for me.
Post by: rpglover on March 29, 2003, 05:46:22 PM
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Of course I know who Mel Blanc is, and I agree that anyone who doesn't SHOULD be shot.
As for anime, I watch it and enjoy most of it, especially Dragonball, Dragonball Z, and the many Gundam series, but they don't rank that high for me.
you know whats kind of funny- a lot of people do not know about mel blanc
in fact most of my friends never watched loony toons- which is very hard to believe
and yes he did do the characterization for barney on the flintstones (i forgot about that one)
and of course i agree with you on the cartoon directors- very excellent ones
but dont forget akira toriyama (i think thats how its spelled) who made the awesome dragonball and dbz (in comic version no less)
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 29, 2003, 06:01:33 PM
I have a lot of respect for Akira Toriyama, too- while I'm not the biggest fan of mangas (their style just kind of irks me, same with most anime), I have to admit that the Dragonball and Dragonball Z story arcs are incredible and it takes a man with vision to pull that all together.
Post by: Ridley on March 29, 2003, 07:58:26 PM
As a DBZ fan, I have a lot of respect for Akira Toriyama. Not just for the show itself, but the way he was able to create all those fight scenes. While working on a fanfic series called Digimon Z (don't laugh. I don't trust myself with the DBZ characters, but I do with the Digimon characters) I've learnt one thing about making up lots huge battles: It's HARD!
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 01, 2003, 12:33:02 PM
Post by: manunited4eva22 on April 01, 2003, 12:45:14 PM
Rocko's Modern Life to this day cracks me up. Tell me atleast one of you is a fan.
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 01, 2003, 01:08:43 PM
Simply a beautiful cartoon, but alas! Nickelodean never shows it anymore, at least not when I'm watching it. Freakzoid! was also an amazing cartoon, but it only comes on at 4 AM on Saturdays.
Post by: rpglover on April 01, 2003, 01:34:13 PM
so many good episodes- i mean who can forget wacky deli? or conglomo? mr bighead? heffer? filburt? spunkey?
one of my favorite episodes was when they pulled the spoof on the shining when heffer became the head of security at conglomo- genius episode!
Post by: Ian Sane on April 01, 2003, 01:41:59 PM
Futurama is pretty funny and I'll be getting it on DVD for sure. It's not better than the Simpsons at their prime but it's been a more consistent show. In the end as a whole series Futurama will probably be a better show as it likely won't have become a parody of itself like The Simpsons have.
I also really loved Tiny Toon Adventures and THE TICK~.
Tick: So Mr. Mayor, whenever you want me and Arther to save the city just flash THE TICK SIGNAL at a convienent passing of clouds.
Mayor: You know we have your phone number.
Tick: Also use phone.
Classics like Looney Toons are really funny but I wouldn't compare them to modern cartoons. It's just a different style of comedy aimed at a different audience. Looney Toons (and other cartoons of the era) was more physical than most modern cartoons and was shown in shorts at the beginning of movies. You can't really compare that to a 30 minute TV show that depends more on witty dialogue.
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 01, 2003, 02:11:52 PM
And the Simpsons doesn't suck now- sure it's nowhere near as funny as it used to be, but it's still 10 times funnier than 90% of other cartoons out there.Oh man, I loved the Tick so much. I watched that show all the time. I also loved the Critic and Family Guy, both of which Fox cancelled.
It seems Fox has a habit of cancelling really great cartoons- first The Critic, then Futurama, and now The Family Guy. At least we know The Simpsons will stay around until at least 2006.
Post by: rpglover on April 01, 2003, 03:02:08 PM
i love john lovitz- he has the best voice for that show- it suits him perfectly
i think they show the critic late on comedy central
i try to watch it when its on
i believe they had a cameo of the critic in an episode of the simpsons once- it was a pretty good episode
but yeah i guess it just is preference
i still like the simpsons a lot but their recent stuff doesnt touch what their old stuff used to be
hopefully they improve but i doubt they will- i think they are running out of ideas
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 02, 2003, 02:32:05 AM
"i think they are running out of ideas"
You know, that's exactly what a Simpsons friend of mine told, and I'll say to you what I said to him: they're *not* running out of ideas- that's almost impossible on a comedy show (look at SNL- it's been running for 27 years and still has new ideas)- the problem is they're not thinking of new ones. The writers are struggling because they can't grasp the new ideas that ARE out there. There's no limit on the number of ideas, just on the writers' abilities to think of them.
Post by: rpglover on April 02, 2003, 12:49:46 PM
they may not be running out of good ideas its just that the new ones cant compete with what they used to have
also- they havent been able to use certain characters because the voicer for them is dead (phil hartman)
he did lional hutz and troy mclure- two of my favorite characters they had
for a while i thought it be cool if we could use them again but unfortunately we dont have phil to voice
i still like the simpsons but their new seasons havent been too hot lately
but we shall see how the simpsons do from now on- i still watch them but they are just as good as they used to be
now i am not sure about futurama- but how many seasons did matt groening make for futurama
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 02, 2003, 12:59:42 PM
I think Futurama ran for 4 seasons or so. I believe it began in 1999 and was officially cancelled in February.
::EDIT:: A friend of mine raised an interesting point- I don't know if anyone noticed, but Fox showd Futurama on Sunday at 7 pm and it was an episode they hadn't shown before. Is this because Matt made more episodes than Fox has shown (I thought I heard that somewhere) or has Fox actually brought back the series. They still have a site for it and advertise it's timeslot.
Post by: PIAC on April 02, 2003, 07:31:21 PM
"have no fears, there will be shows for years" heheh yeah the latest simpsons haven't been that great, but geez, im not going to complain after over a decade of quality entertainment
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 03, 2003, 02:28:23 AM
Invader Zim was cancelled? I never liked the show that much personally, but I know a LOT of people who did. That's kind of surprising.
Post by: PIAC on April 03, 2003, 08:07:53 AM
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 03, 2003, 10:30:17 AM
Post by: rpglover on April 03, 2003, 11:13:22 AM
alot of their episodes had jokes in it that older kids might get but some youngsters may not
personally i stopped watching nickelodian after they cancelled rocko- that was a huge blow
now i get most of my cartooning on cartoon network (duh..) and fox
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 03, 2003, 11:23:21 AM
Post by: Ridley on April 03, 2003, 11:50:04 AM
Post by: rpglover on April 03, 2003, 12:42:11 PM
they have really great shows- especially futurama
but other shows on cartoon network, especially samurai jack and looney toons, keep me watching all the time
i know this may sound dumb, but the older episodes of pokemon are nice to watch too....
yeah cartoon network, fox, and espn are my favorite networks on tv
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 03, 2003, 12:45:48 PM
). I also watch Noggin but ONLY for Daria- god knows why Noggin picked it up, but Daria's one of my favorite cartoons ever and I'm not going to miss it.
Post by: manunited4eva22 on April 03, 2003, 01:17:15 PM
A cartoon that I have really started to watch lately is Ren and Stimpy. Now that I undrestand the humor it is hilarious.
Daria was my kind of humor, tons of irony and not laugh out loud humor, just funny things. It's a pity how all of the really good cartoons slowly get canned, but now I have bursts from strong bad to cheer me up.
Post by: rpglover on April 03, 2003, 01:41:51 PM
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Originally posted by: mouse_clicker
Blegh, I hate TV sports, except for some baskteball and hockey every now and then (since they at least have something going on most of the time). My favorite channels are Cartoon Network, Comedy Central, Fox, and The Gameshow Network (
no sports.........wow i love espn- i love comedy too but come on- march madness, nba playoffs are comming, mlb season openers (go phillies)
well i think there are some good programs on espn- pti, around the horn, sportscenter, all the games and highlights, the sports reporters...
i could go on
but of course i love comedy central- south park, the daily show (the best news show period), chappel's show
but the best sport of them all is definately football
"Daria was my kind of humor, tons of irony and not laugh out loud humor, just funny things. It's a pity how all of the really good cartoons slowly get canned, but now I have bursts from strong bad to cheer me up."
daria was alright but i never really liked it that much- there are better shows on
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 03, 2003, 01:52:02 PM
K-State has a very good women's baskteball team, too. But really besides hockey and basketball, I just find watching sports on TV to be really boring. Football to me is just a bunch of guys running into each other for a few seconds, then sitting there for 10 minutes. Baseball, while I lvoe to play it, seems like it's a strike or foul and when the guy actually does get a hit it's usually caught. I love Daria so much, probably because she represents me and my sister so well. We're both pretty apothetic, sarcastic, cynical people and a LOT of Daria's humor hits home with us.
Post by: rpglover on April 03, 2003, 03:12:17 PM
honestly- football is my favorite sport in the world- not only do i love to watch it, i love to play it
i play on my high school team- its lots of fun but so demanding of your time that i dont know when i have time for games or tv anymore!!
i am constantly running and lifting everyday that its hard to just relax
of course i find time on the weekends with my friends and girlfriend, but besides that hardly no time- except at nights
but i really love football and i hope to play in college
yeah i have kansas going all the way baby! (dick vitall)
i bet its real crazy in kansas right now...am i right??
we in PA go crazy for all of our teams- especially the sixers right now, but the phillies also...
yeah daria does have some good humor but i just dont like it as much as other shows
but daria does remind me of some movies such as best in show and of course spinal tap- great movies if you havent seen them
they have good humor in their diologue so you have to listen to get all of the good stuff
some of my friends dont have the patience to watch those movies but if you get the chance- i highly recommend them
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 03, 2003, 04:09:39 PM
Post by: rpglover on April 03, 2003, 05:15:07 PM
unfortunately i had them loosing to kentucky who lost in the elite 8
so basically my brackets fell apart and i lost all the money i had bet (around 5$....)
it wasnt a big loss but still five bucks is five bucks right???
well i am hoping kansas wins now since i like the coach (roy williams) and the team they have
it seems like they have the best over-all players
we shall see how it all turns out though over the weekend
Post by: manunited4eva22 on April 05, 2003, 04:27:08 AM
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We're both pretty apothetic, sarcastic, cynical people and a LOT of Daria's humor hits home with us.
Well crap I'm not one of a kind anymore
Post by: PIAC on April 05, 2003, 11:26:40 AM
TOON ARMY!!!!!!!!
Post by: manunited4eva22 on April 05, 2003, 05:57:26 PM
Post by: Koopa Troopa on April 06, 2003, 05:08:41 PM
Top cartoons would be... (In no particular order)
The Simpsons
Futurama
Spongebob Squarepants
Ren & Stimpy
Angry Beavers
Umm... Crap, I suck at listing things. I know there are a ton more.
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zoidburg: my house burnt down noooo
hermies: that raises a few questions
bender: oh tahts where i left my cigar
hermies: that just raises further questions!!
i most likely haven't quoted it properly, but anyway its one of the best moments
ROFL!! I missed ten minutes of the show after that! I couldn't stop laughing!
Post by: rpglover on April 06, 2003, 05:27:43 PM
fry and amy are in amy's car with the window all fogged up
(the car hauler sees fog on the window of amy's car. he wipes off the car and sees fry and amy...playing cards)
fry: hahaha.... they think were making out......hey...why arent we making out...
amy: i dunno
(amy and fry start making out)
or
fry: it seems everywhere i go, there's amy. when i'm at work...there's amy. when i'm watching tv...there's amy. when i'm at the store...there's amy. when i wake up after sleeping with amy...there's amy.
oh yeah i am not a big spongebob fan- its alright but nothing special i thought
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 07, 2003, 12:25:28 PM
Haha, yes! Cartoon Network is gettingThe Family Guy.
They've really been the savior for great cancelled Fox cartonos lately- first The Oblongs, then Futurama, now The Family Guy- the only one tehy don't have is The Critic, which Comedy Central has.
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 24, 2003, 04:48:20 PM
Post by: KnowsNothing on May 25, 2004, 02:43:54 PM
You said it would make me cry! >=O
I guess I have no heart
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 25, 2004, 03:39:25 PM
Post by: DrZoidberg on May 25, 2004, 04:01:29 PM
Jurassic Bark is le sad ;____;
Post by: Snake 'n' Bake on May 25, 2004, 11:26:53 PM
P.S. I think Jarassic Bark is quite sad ;_;
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 26, 2004, 03:10:14 PM
Family Guy is coming back in 2005 with all new episodes in an all new season!!!
click the hidden text
Post by: Snake 'n' Bake on May 26, 2004, 09:17:44 PM
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on May 27, 2004, 05:06:12 AM
1) The Simpsons
2) Futurama
3) Invader Zim
4) The Brak Show
5) Homestar Runner (it counts AFAIC)
Those are the all-time best cartoons of EVER IN THE HISTORY OF EVERNESS. I end this post by saying...er...can't think of a quote, but...uh...Mr. Von Riktor wet his pants till he was twelve! No, that...er...
Post by: The Omen on May 27, 2004, 10:39:06 AM
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You know, that's exactly what a Simpsons friend of mine told, and I'll say to you what I said to him: they're *not* running out of ideas- that's almost impossible on a comedy show (look at SNL- it's been running for 27 years and still has new ideas)- the problem is they're not thinking of new ones. The writers are struggling because they can't grasp the new ideas that ARE out there. There's no limit on the number of ideas, just on the writers' abilities to think of them.
Ah, but they are running out of realistic ideas/situations to put The Simpsons family in. And when the show gets outlandish plots, like the last 5-6 years, it dampens the effect the show has. Part of the shows appeal was that it was a cartoon take on real family life. Of course they were exaggerated plots early, but never so much as to say,' God this is ridiculous'. Which happens to almost every sitcom after about 5 seasons.
SNL is a bad analogy. Theres several skits per episode, and if something doesn't work, they move on to the next. How long is the longest skit? 5 minutes, tops? When your working with small snippetts of comedy, its much easier than a half hour show. They really don't have to worry about tying everything together everyweek either. How long would one of those skits be on TV if they had to make a half hour episode every week? None of them would hold up very long, if at all. They can last years on SNL because you only see 3 minutes at a time.
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Holy crap. O_O I just bought volume 1 of Futurama and good god is it incredible. It has the first thirteen episodes (some of the funniest, and not primitive, like The Simpsons in it's early stages)
Thats because Futurama is done digitally, whereas The Simpsons wasn't until a couple of seasons ago.
But yes, Futurama is my second favorite cartoon.
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 27, 2004, 12:08:10 PM
And you raise a good point about SNL, but keep in mind that if anything, SNL is MORE pressed for ideas because of the short sketch format, and they have to come up with new ones on the spot every week- not easy by any means. SNL is a show that continually finds its place with new generations, though. You don't have a long running television series that only appeals to a specific generation, it has to appeal to everyone. The Simpsons is in limbo at the moment, and so is SNL- Futurama wasn't.
Post by: The Omen on May 27, 2004, 12:24:43 PM
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The Simpsons is in limbo at the moment, and so is SNL- Futurama wasn't.
I agree Futurama wasn't-yet. 4 seasons in it was great. But my personal opinion is 6 seasons is the max for sitcoms. The degradation starts to appear around that time. And while they're still funny(I still like the Simpsons), they're funny in a different way. More slap- sticky humor, because its hard to formulate shows as deep, or relevant, after so many have been done quite successfully.
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And you raise a good point about SNL, but keep in mind that if anything, SNL is MORE pressed for ideas because of the short sketch format, and they have to come up with new ones on the spot every week- not easy by any means. SNL is a show that continually finds its place with new generations, though.
Good point. But having new talent coming up with new ideas, and not necassarily having to come up with stories for existing characters, (such as the case with writers for The Simpsons) is in many ways a luxury. And the reason SNL continuously finds relevance is because of new , fresh talent, which you cant really do with The Simpsons. New writers , yes. But they have to write in the Simps family framework every week, 22 minutes long. After 300+ episodes, they're kind of in a corner, which is why they should have ended the show in 2000, at the very least.
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 27, 2004, 01:29:12 PM
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I agree Futurama wasn't-yet. 4 seasons in it was great. But my personal opinion is 6 seasons is the max for sitcoms. The degradation starts to appear around that time. And while they're still funny(I still like the Simpsons), they're funny in a different way. More slap- sticky humor, because its hard to formulate shows as deep, or relevant, after so many have been done quite successfully.
I completely agree- sitcoms often overstay their welcome and end up being forgetten when they were really quite incredible in their prime. Landmark shows like I Love Lucy and The Dick Van Dyke Show only ran between 5 or 6 seasons and went out on top- The Honeymooners only lasted 1 season! Futurama followed the pattern and ended up going off the air in its prime- I think if it had carried on as long as The Simpsons it would have experienced a similar decline. Futurama will now exist as a legend in the animation world, untainted by dilapidated final years. The Simpsons deserves that recognition, but unfortunately it probably won't get it since it outlasted its relevance.
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Good point. But having new talent coming up with new ideas, and not necassarily having to come up with stories for existing characters, (such as the case with writers for The Simpsons) is in many ways a luxury. And the reason SNL continuously finds relevance is because of new , fresh talent, which you cant really do with The Simpsons. New writers , yes. But they have to write in the Simps family framework every week, 22 minutes long. After 300+ episodes, they're kind of in a corner, which is why they should have ended the show in 2000, at the very least.
I completely agree with that- SNL does have the advantage of being able to start fresh with a whole new cast. In fact, the best periods of SNL are always when a new cast is introduced (which is what I think they should do now, fire everybody and start with a clean slate, especially since Jimmy Fallon is leaving). The Simpsons should have left while still in its prime, then it wouldn't have grown senile and useless.
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on November 25, 2004, 09:43:52 AM
Leela: I'll do it.
Mutant: Nice try, Leela, but we've all seen Zap Branigan's web page.
Post by: Aussie Ben PGC on November 25, 2004, 11:49:44 PM
I'm sorry, I got distracted. Yes, Futurama is good.
VERY good. I love the Space Wasp episode. And the end of Jurassic Bark made me cry a bit, too.
Post by: couchmonkey on November 26, 2004, 12:09:09 PM
As for the Simpsons, I personally think the show has improved a lot in the past year. It seems less repetitive and ridiculously over the top. Well, sorta.
Post by: Rancid Planet on November 26, 2004, 03:09:42 PM
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on November 27, 2004, 01:29:53 PM
Where's Mouse these days?
And I need to see this Jurassic Bark.
Post by: blackfootsteps on November 29, 2004, 12:43:13 PM
Post by: Dasmos on November 29, 2004, 05:46:55 PM
1. Family Guy
2. Futurama
3. The Simpsons
The Simpsons used to be my fav but i have seen it too often it never breaks me into fits of laughter it used to..........but Family Guy is funnier and to me it never gets old.
Fav quote
Excuse me you cannot park your van on the diving board.....Wait thats that's not a van it's just some fatty-fat kid.
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on December 10, 2004, 06:42:33 PM
