Post by: Nick DiMola on January 09, 2008, 06:09:22 AM
1) They all run on N64 hardware. In order to bring them to the 360 they would all have to be ported due to the fact that they couldn't be legally emulated.
2) It was my perception that Nintendo owned the final product created by Rare because they were the publishers. So even though they may not own the characters or the source code, they still own the finished product.
Now I don't really know if any of this is true, but I would think that Microsoft would need a contract with Nintendo in order to even have the opportunity to do this. Anybody have any insight on this?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 09, 2008, 07:23:09 AM
So maybe in exchange for this we might see Halo on the DS, or something like that..
Post by: vudu on January 09, 2008, 07:36:06 AM
Post by: Nick DiMola on January 09, 2008, 07:40:17 AM
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It's different because Microsoft doesn't compete directly with the DS (nor do they plan to any time soon) because there's no Microsoft handheld. Microsoft and Nintendo are direct competitors in the console market (despite what they might tell you) so you're never going to see either one give up anything with some serious cash exchanging hands.
Well the only thing I could see happening is a trade off. If it goes up on one, it also goes up on the other. In that case you would see all of the Rare classics go on both the VC as well as XBLA, probably featuring a very similar experience. I'd be happy to see that happen, though I seriously doubt it.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 09, 2008, 08:07:58 AM
Post by: DAaaMan64 on January 09, 2008, 08:19:59 AM
Post by: Kairon on January 09, 2008, 08:22:35 AM
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 09, 2008, 08:28:33 AM
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That's actually interesting, if the titles would come to BOTH the VC and XBLA. However, doesn't it go without saying that the XBLA version would be the superior one?
If they don't edit the ROMs then both would be identical.
Post by: that Baby guy on January 09, 2008, 08:32:07 AM
Post by: vudu on January 09, 2008, 08:48:43 AM
QuoteBare minimum the resolution would need to be upped to 720p and Achievements would be added.
Originally posted by: Chozo Ghost
If they don't edit the ROMs then both would be identical.
Post by: Nick DiMola on January 09, 2008, 08:49:53 AM
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That's actually interesting, if the titles would come to BOTH the VC and XBLA. However, doesn't it go without saying that the XBLA version would be the superior one?
Well I think that if Nintendo came to that agreement with MS, it would actually give Nintendo the incentive to add value in order to compete with the XBLA version. Number one addition for me would be pointer support for Goldeneye/Perfect Dark. Adding online play would also be nice, but would seem to be a more likely addition to the XBLA version. If that happened, I would be forced to buy both versions
Post by: bustin98 on January 09, 2008, 08:55:54 AM
Personally, I was hoping Nintendo was enlisting Zoonami to to redo some stuff on the game and release a rehash on the Wii. I guess that was just fantasy island.
Post by: DAaaMan64 on January 09, 2008, 09:39:13 AM
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 09, 2008, 10:02:50 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
That's actually interesting, if the titles would come to BOTH the VC and XBLA. However, doesn't it go without saying that the XBLA version would be the superior one?
Well I think that if Nintendo came to that agreement with MS, it would actually give Nintendo the incentive to add value in order to compete with the XBLA version. Number one addition for me would be pointer support for Goldeneye/Perfect Dark. Adding online play would also be nice, but would seem to be a more likely addition to the XBLA version. If that happened, I would be forced to buy both versions
True. They could add different enhancements for each system and try to balance those enhancements out so that some people may even want to own it on both systems. I guess that would make them more money also by selling the game to some customers twice.... Think of Soul Calibur II where every system had a different bonus character (but Gamecube's was considered the best because it had Link).
Obviously, the XBLA version would have better graphics, but the Wii might have additional content, or something...
Post by: NeoThunder on January 09, 2008, 11:07:01 AM
I would guess it will get a similer treatment that Double Dragon got when we saw it come to XBLA
Post by: BranDonk Kong on January 09, 2008, 04:20:01 PM
Post by: Dirk Temporo on January 09, 2008, 04:34:02 PM
EDIT: Also run WAY better than the original.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 09, 2008, 04:46:21 PM
My guess is that if some sort of agreement was met it will have to wait till the release of WiiWare before a simultaneous Wii/360 release.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 10, 2008, 09:59:49 AM
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on January 10, 2008, 02:23:52 PM
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Wait... wouldn't they also have to clear things up with the owners of the James Bond franchise? Between Rare, Nintendo, Microsoft, and whoever owns James bond I think Goldeneye is amounting to too much of a copyright nightmare to deal with, so maybe that's probably why the rumor said it was canceled.
That would be Activision Blizzard I doubt N64 Golden eye would ever be re-released do to all the legal nightmares.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 10, 2008, 11:59:13 PM
Post by: Djunknown on January 11, 2008, 02:19:17 PM
Its a shame that MS and Nintendo can't come to an agreement. Oh, Activision currently owns the rights to Bond franchise in gaming form. Bond itself is part of MGM, which in turn has relations with Sony. Talk about strange relations...
Post by: Nick DiMola on January 14, 2008, 03:07:13 AM
Post by: DAaaMan64 on January 14, 2008, 05:13:01 AM
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 14, 2008, 05:35:05 AM
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I was just thinking about something hilarious. Apparently Microsoft completely redid Goldeneye, totally finished the project, then talked to Nintendo? Nice work retards. Wouldn't step one be talk to Nintendo then if you come to an agreement go and do the work? Either Microsoft is full of dumbasses or this story is a load of shit.
Either that, or the company is so filthy rich that it can afford to fund and then abandon projects with impunity. I remember that they paid many millions of dollars for exclusive content in some game once. They can do it, because Bill Gates probably uses more money than that just to wipe his bottom every day.
Post by: Nick DiMola on January 14, 2008, 06:07:40 AM
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Originally posted by: Mr. Jack
I was just thinking about something hilarious. Apparently Microsoft completely redid Goldeneye, totally finished the project, then talked to Nintendo? Nice work retards. Wouldn't step one be talk to Nintendo then if you come to an agreement go and do the work? Either Microsoft is full of dumbasses or this story is a load of shit.
Either that, or the company is so filthy rich that it can afford to fund and then abandon projects with impunity. I remember that they paid many millions of dollars for exclusive content in some game once. They can do it, because Bill Gates probably uses more money than that just to wipe his bottom every day.
Well if that's the case, thank god I'm not a stockholder because that would seriously piss me off.
Post by: IceCold on January 14, 2008, 12:48:24 PM
QuoteDidn't they pay like $50 million for GTAIV content?
remember that they paid many millions of dollars for exclusive content in some game once. They can do it, because Bill Gates probably uses more money than that just to wipe his bottom every day.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 14, 2008, 12:57:21 PM
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Originally posted by: Mr. JackQuote
Originally posted by: Chozo GhostQuote
Originally posted by: Mr. Jack
I was just thinking about something hilarious. Apparently Microsoft completely redid Goldeneye, totally finished the project, then talked to Nintendo? Nice work retards. Wouldn't step one be talk to Nintendo then if you come to an agreement go and do the work? Either Microsoft is full of dumbasses or this story is a load of shit.
Either that, or the company is so filthy rich that it can afford to fund and then abandon projects with impunity. I remember that they paid many millions of dollars for exclusive content in some game once. They can do it, because Bill Gates probably uses more money than that just to wipe his bottom every day.
Well if that's the case, thank god I'm not a stockholder because that would seriously piss me off.
They've also suffered horrendous losses with their Xbox hardware. Oh yeah, and they purchases Rare from Nintendo for a hefty sum, as I recall. But none of that really matters, because the entire gaming industry is just a drop in the bucket to them. Let's not forget they have a monopoly on the entire OS market and they rake in billions of dollars in cash, so a loss of a few million here or there doesn't matter to them, and the shareholders don't care either as long as they are profitable overall.
Post by: animecyberrat on March 14, 2008, 10:55:48 PM
