Post by: UncleBob on January 02, 2008, 02:16:24 PM
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Mr. Fils-Amie said that future DS device will be more tightly integrated with its Wii console. Complete games as well as game samplers will be able to be downloaded into the Wii using its broadband connection, and then transferred wirelessly to the DS.
Joystiq says:
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AM3 and Dai Nippon Printing have partnered up to release the DSVision digital content platform for the Nintendo DS in Japan. The device -- which is officially licensed by Nintendo -- features a MicroSD flash card and a standard-sized DS card adapter.
What happens when you combine those two things?
Post by: Crimm on January 02, 2008, 02:24:21 PM
My predictions are already coming true...on the wrong Nintendo console.
Post by: Infernal Monkey on January 02, 2008, 02:52:34 PM
GIVE IT TO ME NINTENDO
AND KIRBY'S PINBALL LAND
THAT'D BE RAD
MY PANTS
Post by: LuigiHann on January 02, 2008, 03:37:36 PM
Post by: MaryJane on January 02, 2008, 04:43:01 PM
I wonder how their going to handle re-downloading DS games you have to pay for. What if there's a house with one Wii and 3 DS's do they all have to pay for 1 DS game? Or play it on only one DS or one game cart?
I also wonder if through the use of advertising, perhaps in the DS games section of the Wii Shop channel, could all the DS games be free and it wouldn't matter how many DS's downloaded the game through your particular Wii... if only the world worked in such a manner
edit: grammar
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 02, 2008, 06:06:00 PM
Post by: Crimm on January 02, 2008, 06:10:06 PM
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 03, 2008, 05:19:10 PM
Post by: UncleBob on January 04, 2008, 12:18:12 AM
Post by: EasyCure on January 04, 2008, 01:50:58 AM
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Originally posted by: Chozo Ghost
I hope it makes use of the Super Gameboy borders and color schemes which some of the later original Gameboy games had... those were awesome back in the day. I still regret letting a "friend" borrow my Super Gameboy adapter, and he still has it to this day. *angry face*
i feel your pain.. a "friend" of mine also has my super gameboy adapter (before i ever got to use it in conjunction with my GB-camera
sad...) as well as my original copy of megaman soccer. oh and another "friend" still has my favorite blue n64 controller as well as some games for it. the only one i can remember though is Flying Dragon. that game rocked. i miss it Post by: Ian Sane on January 04, 2008, 04:54:05 AM
Though what would be really cool is one universal VC where you can transfer your games from the Wii to the DS. The most advanced games on the VC are N64 games and the DS seems capable of handling those (control issues aside). And even if N64 games didn't support it all the other consoles certainly could and the DS already has the right button layout. Then you put Gameboy games on the VC and I can either play them (with Super Gameboy enhancements) on my Wii OR transfer them to my DS flash drive thingy and play them there. And for security reasons they could always make the DS flash drive hold only one or two VC games at a time so you can't just pass them all off to your friends. Though I know Nintendo will never do this. Why? Because it's a good idea of course!
Post by: Crimm on January 04, 2008, 05:49:01 AM
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Though I know Nintendo will never do this. Why? Because it's a good idea of course!
HAH! Reading your post I was going to say "This will not happen, Nintendo."
Post by: TheFleece on January 04, 2008, 10:00:18 AM
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=16836
Post by: Kairon on January 04, 2008, 10:23:13 AM
Post by: TheFleece on January 04, 2008, 10:31:36 AM
Post by: TheFleece on January 04, 2008, 10:35:55 AM
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What? But I want face training! The DS Camera has GOT to make it over here! T_T
You'll just have to figure a better way to pretty that face up then. The camera should have been in stores for the Summer, but I found out some lame features about it and decided not to get it as an import. I don't even know if they'll make another game for the Slider. If any of those products make it to the states I'll be shocked.
Post by: Kairon on January 04, 2008, 10:50:12 AM
My face is just dandy already, but Face Training has always looked like the neatest gimmick ever, I really wanted to try it.
Post by: TheFleece on January 04, 2008, 10:59:26 AM
Post by: Kairon on January 04, 2008, 11:02:41 AM
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Post by: Kairon on January 04, 2008, 11:49:39 AM
Post by: UncleBob on January 04, 2008, 02:33:47 PM
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Gamasutra is reporting that Nintendo of America says that the Times article is wrong and all we should expect are demos. The DSvision is a cool product that might never make it over to the states and therefore we would be missing out on a chunk of Wii and DS capabilities. Bad show- put it on the shelf with the DS Camera and the Slider.
Woah there... Easy now tiger. You have to read what Nintendo is actually saying.
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the Nintendo DS will be able to receive demo versions of some DS games from Wii, but not the entire game. The demo will be erased once the Nintendo DS is turned off.
The quote directly says that full versions of DS games will not be available. I'm sure they carefully worded that statement.
Not saying we'll get a DS VC anytime soon (or at all). Just sayin'...
Post by: Ceric on January 05, 2008, 02:57:31 AM
Post by: TheFleece on January 06, 2008, 03:25:11 AM
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Originally posted by: TheFleece
Gamasutra is reporting that Nintendo of America says that the Times article is wrong and all we should expect are demos. The DSvision is a cool product that might never make it over to the states and therefore we would be missing out on a chunk of Wii and DS capabilities. Bad show- put it on the shelf with the DS Camera and the Slider.
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the Nintendo DS will be able to receive demo versions of some DS games from Wii, but not the entire game. The demo will be erased once the Nintendo DS is turned off.
The quote directly says that full versions of DS games will not be available. I'm sure they carefully worded that statement.
Not saying we'll get a DS VC anytime soon (or at all). Just sayin'...
Alright, but let's be straight and admit that Full DS games are out of the question now, what would be coming- if it were coming to the states would be Game Boy and Game Boy Advanced games on the VC. The product description for the DSvision lists watching movies, reading comics and more. I don't see the DSvision coming here because of those capabilities and that is messed up. We all read comics or watch movies and would take advantage of its availability on the DS, I would be real excited if the DSvision came to the US, but considering the fact that most of the media available for the DSvision will be manga and anime related franchises the chances of it being released in the US are slim.
So with demos being available soon I have this to say: I live close to the Nintendo World in New York and there haven't been many new demos for the DS in a long time. It's all stuff that has been out for a long time already, the best thing you can download now is Ninja Gaiden, do that and then be prepared to wait eight months for something else.
Also the DSvision site is up! http://www.dsvision.jp/
Post by: Kairon on January 06, 2008, 09:29:27 AM
Post by: UncleBob on January 06, 2008, 09:39:25 AM
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I personally think that we won't see any sort of Handheld VC until the DS2. The DS is doing just fine right now, and I'm pretty sure that while Nintendo is always researching new features, they're probably saving some stuff for the future handheld.
While I agree, Nintendo has to be looking at the sales for the Wii VC, then looking at all the GB/GBC/GBA games and thinking "How much money could we make with this?"
Post by: Kairon on January 06, 2008, 09:47:24 AM
Post by: UncleBob on January 06, 2008, 10:00:32 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 06, 2008, 12:41:58 PM
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But don't you think that the GBA/GBC/GBA library is much leass...well... desirable / mineable compared to the home consoles of the past?
I think so considering I was never a big fan of ANY handheld or its games until NDS.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 06, 2008, 04:31:32 PM
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But don't you think that the GBA/GBC/GBA library is much leass...well... desirable / mineable compared to the home consoles of the past?
As a whole, yeah. The GB games are all monochrome which isn't too popular with the HD world of today, but there was still some excellent GB games that I'd love to see available on a VC once again. They would be perfect on the Wii, because the GB has the same button layout as the NES and we see how well the works out with the Wii-mote turned on its side.
Basically, GB games are just NES games but without the color. If you can get past that fact, then you can have just as much fun with them as you could with NES classics like Mario Bros. In fact, in some respect Super Mario Land and the Wario Land games kick serious ass compared to the NES games. You also gotta love the timeless puzzle games like Tetris, and Yoshi's Cookie, and Tetris Attack. So yeah, the GB library can be pretty good for certain genres, but you didn't see a lot of epic games like Final Fantasy on it because in those days (and also somewhat true today) developers tended not to take handhelds as seriously as consoles, and would fill them with weak games. But there were some gems.
But I think the pricing for GB games should be lower than the NES games are. If NES games are $5 per download, then a GB game should be $2.50 per download or something. GBC games could be $3-4 and GBA should probably not be put on the console at all, since that handheld isn't entirely dead yet.
Post by: Ian Sane on January 07, 2008, 05:35:39 AM
Nintendo seems content to release like 4 N64 games a year and if that's enough for them to have the N64 supported on the VC then why not the Gameboy? The Gameboy was more popular than the T-16 and the Neo Geo but those are doing fine. Chozo Ghost summed it up well: they're B&W NES games. Now there's a lot of shovelware on the Gameboy but the first party stuff alone would be in demand. Link's Awakening, Donkey Kong, Metroid II, f*cking POKEMON. Nintendo thinks they can sell crappy NES sports games. Are Gameboy games any worse than that?
I imagine the mark up for VC games is so high that even having the Virtual Boy library up there would be profitable.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 07, 2008, 07:07:56 AM
I really don't think they would do it, though. The main reason is that while they may profit from it, they aren't going to profit from it as much as with their other systems. They'd have to develop a special emulator for the VB and spend even more money if they wanted it in 3D. Plus, how many people would actually purchase these games? As I recall, not even one of them was a must have title. Plus, I doubt Nintendo wants to reopen the wound of their only hardware failure. They probably want the memory of the VB to stay swept under the rug as much as possible.
Still, I am very intrigued about a Virtual Boy VC addition. Does anyone here think it's even possible?
Post by: Ian Sane on January 07, 2008, 08:36:54 AM
I imagine they would have to be 2D with red & black graphics. Obviously a lot of the oomph would be gone but I've always been curious about those games. If Nintendo didn't want to do that I would have no issue with it. It's just a neat idea that might not even be feasible.
Post by: UncleBob on January 07, 2008, 02:58:50 PM
Post by: TheFleece on January 08, 2008, 12:10:23 PM
Kairon is right in that we will have to wait for a DS 2, but who here can say for sure that will happen this year?
It's a tough deal to see interesting peripherals made for one reigon not bought to another, I hope this isn't the case with the DSvision.
If we ever see Virtual Boy games on the VC then I would say they've gone too far. How many of you remember it? Ever play it? It was awful and there's no need for any of that sort of insulting piece of work.
Post by: UncleBob on January 08, 2008, 12:22:56 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on January 09, 2008, 05:18:12 AM
I could probably think of at least 20 if I stopped and thought about it. Even more if I include the GBC. I think that's enough to justify supporting it. Hell people constantly request Sega Master System support and I'm certain I could name more good games for the Gameboy than the SMS.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 09, 2008, 06:08:02 AM
I would even pay NES level prices for a handful of GB masterpieces. Metroid II and Zelda: Link's Awakening come to mind immediately. These are just as good or even better than most NES offerings, except for the lack of color. Now, if they include a Super Gameboy ability to colorize your games (or perhaps alter the ROMs themselves to be in color) then we've got something great going on here.
Post by: EasyCure on January 11, 2008, 02:10:51 AM
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The Gameboy had tons of simple puzzle games like Daedalean Opus which I fondly remember. Someone stole my copy, and I've never been able to find it since. I also remember a Vegas Casino game which kicked ass, and I also love that Wario Vs. Bomberman game. These games aren't really must haves or anything, but they may justify a VC purchase provided Nintendo keeps the price very low. The question is, how much are people willing to pay for monochrome 2 button games?
I would even pay NES level prices for a handful of GB masterpieces. Metroid II and Zelda: Link's Awakening come to mind immediately. These are just as good or even better than most NES offerings, except for the lack of color. Now, if they include a Super Gameboy ability to colorize your games (or perhaps alter the ROMs themselves to be in color) then we've got something great going on here.
Im glad i finished reading the rest of that post because i was going to respond "who says they have to be black and white?" im sure they cude give you color options like the super gameboy or even the GBC (when playing standard GB games). I bet they'd even use that to justifty charging the same prices as NES games too..
oh and a slight side note, everyone keeps mentioning Links Awakening as a must have game for GB but no ones yet mentioned the other two Zelda games on GB(C)! I found a used copy of Oracle of Seasons not too long ago and just finished it, it was great! if i didnt happen to see it in the used GB game display i would of missed out on it, unless nintendo put them up on the VC
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 11, 2008, 03:10:03 AM
Post by: EasyCure on January 11, 2008, 04:56:16 AM
i remember being dissapointed with the gbc's color optoins for GB games when i realized the "black and white" mode actually black and white and not the "black and green" display of the original. i would of loved for it to of mimiced that
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 11, 2008, 05:50:09 AM
