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Title: Take Two laughs at GTA on Wi
Post by: Mario on December 18, 2007, 12:16:54 PM: http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=16707
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They did laugh off, though, the prospect of bringing GTA to the Wii. Concluded Zelnick, "there are other titles better suited to the Wii than Grand Theft Auto."]

Yep, the biggest third party game is definitely not suited to the highest selling console. This comment pissed me off a lot. As a huge fan of both GTA and Wii i'm personally very offended. I've actually thought the GTA franchise has been a great fit for Nintendo systems for ages because of its not-so-serious style and sandbox gameplay. Plus it could really benefit from some solid controls. Plus most PS2 fans have moved to Wii, or will end up moving on to Wii.

I'm not sure if they are implying its a kids console, or an old ladies console or what? GTA has never been a graphical powerhouse, so that wouldn't be a problem for a Wii version. I don't get it, someone please explain. When Wii sells its 100 millionth console will they reconsider?
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Post by: IceCold on December 18, 2007, 12:31:04 PM: They're bringing over every one of their major franchises except GTA. They'll have to face reality soon though, and bring it over. I'm personally expecting a GTA compilation soon.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 18, 2007, 12:36:22 PM: Take Two can go under as well.

Good thing Manhunt2 is tanking.
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on December 18, 2007, 12:53:45 PM: All Wii gamers have heard of Grand Theft Auto. Almost no Wii gamers have heard of Manhunt or Take Two's other Takes on its same old stuff, so if they want to exiperiment with their stuff on Wii, the should have brought over what Wii know.
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Post by: Crimm on December 18, 2007, 01:03:20 PM: No, I actually agree with him. GTA will not sell well on the Wii. GTA's target demo will better mesh with the average 360 owner than the average Wii owner.
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Post by: ThePerm on December 18, 2007, 01:34:55 PM: best selling games sell out on every system their on. Demographics is something that creeped into the gaming business and has done nothing but hurt it.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on December 18, 2007, 01:35:04 PM: Quote
Originally posted by: Crimm
No, I actually agree with him. GTA will not sell well on the Wii. GTA's target demo will better mesh with the average 360 owner than the average Wii owner.

We'll never know will we? All I know is that games like Resident Evil sell quite well and that crap games like Manhunt 2 with censored visuals tank.
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Post by: Michael_82 on December 18, 2007, 01:47:32 PM: They expect us to buy crap games (Manhunt 2) and when they don't sell (Manhunt 2), "Well, those kinds of games just don't sell on Nintendo systems." F them.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 18, 2007, 02:01:12 PM: So they will laugh at GTA on Wii well lets see:
Reviewers laughed at Manhunt 2, they also laughed at their version of what would be thought as a idiot proof table tennis but they managed to mess that up as well and looks like the next thing in line at the LOLercoaster is Bully.
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on December 18, 2007, 04:30:34 PM: Quote
Originally posted by: ThePerm
best selling games sell out on every system their on.

Yeah, like Call of Duty 4 on PS3.
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Post by: Ghisy on December 18, 2007, 08:54:13 PM: GTA sucks anyway, we're not missing much.
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Post by: Infernal Monkey on December 18, 2007, 10:12:23 PM: That post sucked, you're not adding much.

Rockstar's been pretty piss-poor with their support on the Wii, it's mind boggling that they don't seem to get it. A port of a two year old table tennis game without the online gameplay (which is the only reason game starved 360 owners cared about it back then), Manhunt 2 which apparently has completely broken motion controls, and got banned everywhere except America.. and now what, a port of Bully? Wow. Instead of farting around, they could go ahead and create a GTA SA 'Stories' game or something for Wii, but I guess that won't happen considering the last two Stories games made no impact on the PSP, so that's gotta be Nintendo's fault.

Or *GASP*, they could go ahead and make a brand new, exclusive GTA game for Wii, but that would make sense and go on to sell a lot of copies. Can't have that, oh my no. "Quick! We'll port over the original Smuggler Run to Wii!"
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Post by: SixthAngel on December 19, 2007, 05:13:16 AM: They have fallen into the same trap a lot of developers have this cycle. Some games cost so much money and take so much time they were being made long before the systems came out. They have no choice but to support these systems through talk and action until the game is released to keep the hype up.

Unfortunately I think some developers are also taking it personally that their system of choice is getting crushed. Imagine your typical console fan boy who spent 400-600 dollars and is pissed and can't understand how others can make a different choice then them. Now imagine a developer who just spent millions and tons of time and money. Professionals should be better then that but they are people too.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 19, 2007, 05:21:22 AM: Then as people, let them be crushed.
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Post by: vudu on December 19, 2007, 06:15:10 AM: Whelp, guess I no longer have to pick up Bully next month. Thanks, Take Two!
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Post by: Ghisy on December 19, 2007, 09:44:31 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: Infernal Monkey
That post sucked, you're not adding much.

Meh, I've never liked GTA so it's not gonna start today!
I tried Manhunt 2 on the PSP for 10 minutes and I also got tired of it.
I guess I'm just not a Rockstar games kind of person...
Title: RE:Take Two laughs at GTA on Wii
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 19, 2007, 10:56:16 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: Infernal Monkey
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Or *GASP*, they could go ahead and make a brand new, exclusive GTA game for Wii, but that would make sense and go on to sell a lot of copies. Can't have that, oh my no. "Quick! We'll port over the original Smuggler Run to Wii!"

Or better yet Wiimake the gamecube Smuggler Run and brand it as a brand new game as if the gamecube version never existed!
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Post by: Tanookisuit on December 19, 2007, 11:16:21 AM: Smuggler's Run was one of my worst GC purchases, and I bought it for $5!
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Post by: Kairon on December 19, 2007, 03:31:00 PM: Quote
Originally posted by: vudu
Whelp, guess I no longer have to pick up Bully next month. Thanks, Take Two!

No! No no! Buy Bully! Buy twoooooooooooooooooooo....*thud*
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Post by: darknight06 on December 19, 2007, 05:02:23 PM: Sixth Angel got it right. The ONLY reason they're saying this right now is because of the huge investment that they put into GTA4 and you better believe it's huge. Once GTA4 has been out for a bit we'll see where things stand. I am thinking about getting Bully though, I was kinda curious about it when they put it on PS2 a while back but never got a real chance to take a look at it. By the time it comes out I'll probably be set for a new title.
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Post by: Kairon on December 19, 2007, 05:13:44 PM: Yeah, sixth angel is right on the money. Rockstar already poured a ton of money and energy into the GTA 4 engine... they're not about to deviate from the path that they're set on. At least, not easily. Same thing for Square and their White Engine...*grumble grumble FFXIII grumble*
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on December 19, 2007, 05:41:28 PM: Quote
Originally posted by: Kairon
Yeah, sixth angel is right on the money. Rockstar already poured a ton of money and energy into the GTA 4 engine... they're not about to deviate from the path that they're set on. At least, not easily. Same thing for Square and their White Engine...*grumble grumble FFXIII grumble*

Yeah the amazing white engine that could be nothing but BS lol.
Title: RE: Take Two laughs at GTA on Wii
Post by: Mario on December 19, 2007, 05:53:21 PM: So third parties screwed up, and now consumers are paying the price. Fantastic.

Bully is a pretty decent game but it's not new.
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Post by: 18 Days on December 19, 2007, 06:13:53 PM: I can testify that bully is a quality title, it's shorter and easier than GTA games but it has fantasic production values and is DRIPPING with character. If GTA was Ocarina of Time, Bully is Majora's Mask.

And lol White Engine. We shouldn't even kid ourselves here: the is going to be the same thing as every final fantasy before it, but now in high definition.
Title: RE:Take Two laughs at GTA on Wii
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on December 19, 2007, 06:27:29 PM: Bully is a good game, I actually like it better than GTA in many ways, even though it is basically GTA Lite (as in the brutality). Kind of sad though, besides the GTA games and Bully Rockstar hasn't really had any other good games.
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Post by: ShyGuy on December 19, 2007, 07:49:32 PM: I thought the Warriors had potential. But there was something... missing in the game. I'm not sure what it was, but about half way through the game, me and my friend just didn't feel like playing the game. Not because it was boring or too hard, but there is something off-putting about the game.
Title: RE:Take Two laughs at GTA on Wii
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on December 19, 2007, 08:17:53 PM: I'd honestly like to see Rockstar get off their "We are so mature" horse, and put GTA style gameplay in a more lighthearted and goofy environment.
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Post by: oohhboy on December 19, 2007, 10:08:40 PM: Quote
Originally posted by: Tanookisuit
Smuggler's Run was one of my worst GC purchases, and I bought it for $5!

Dude, I brought that for $20 NZD and it was a blast. I just did most of the levels in an ATV it made for some messed up fun.
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Post by: Mikintosh on December 20, 2007, 01:32:16 PM: Quote
Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
I'd honestly like to see Rockstar get off their "We are so mature" horse, and put GTA style gameplay in a more lighthearted and goofy environment.

Yes, this is the solution. Manhunt 2 was nothing but bad publicity and lackluster sales for Nintendo, and thus I'm sure they wouldn't be too eager about having GTA burst their "family-friendly" PR bubble they've built up for the Wii. However, a more light-hearted, unobjectionable sandbox game could be great.
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Post by: Kairon on December 20, 2007, 01:47:00 PM: How about instead of a crime-infested city, they put it in a private school with mandatory uniforms? And how about instead of criminal acts, they just reduce it down to some playground antics? And instead of stealing cars... bicycles! Surely this game would be smoother around the edges no?
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on December 20, 2007, 01:57:32 PM: Quote
Originally posted by: Kairon
How about instead of a crime-infested city, they put it in a private school with mandatory uniforms? And how about instead of criminal acts, they just reduce it down to some playground antics? And instead of stealing cars... bicycles! Surely this game would be smoother around the edges no?

Yeah, for a PORT.
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Post by: Mario on December 20, 2007, 02:12:08 PM: They could call it "Buddy".
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on December 20, 2007, 07:18:40 PM: Looks like EA may pick up Take-Two, http://www.gameater.com/take-two-acquisition-by-ea-imminent/

This may change the idea of GTA on Wii; for the better I would presume.
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Post by: Kairon on December 20, 2007, 07:26:56 PM: Maybe, but since when is EA gobbling up yet another company a looked-forward-to event?
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Post by: Infernal Monkey on December 20, 2007, 08:02:41 PM: Just imagine GTA's radio stations if EA were involved, they'd have adverts for real products, every station would play emo and pop-punk and feature a typical too-much-red-cordial style EA DJ.
Title: RE:Take Two laughs at GTA on Wii
Post by: Kairon on December 20, 2007, 08:10:41 PM: Quote
Originally posted by: Infernal Monkey
Just imagine GTA's radio stations if EA were involved, they'd have adverts for real products, every station would play emo and pop-punk and feature a typical too-much-red-cordial style EA DJ.

OH SCREW THAT!

The satirical radio stations and bitingly in-your-face caricatures of culture and controversy and society are just one of the elements that really make GTA games a very unique and cultural relevant product. If EA kills that then..then... /cry
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Post by: Infernal Monkey on December 20, 2007, 08:13:53 PM: I'm still bitter over them killing off the incredibly awesome original music the Burnout games featured when they bought out Criterion and replacing it with licensed stuff. And the DJ that would comment about going surfing and all sorts of pointless junk. You could turn him off, but still! ;_;
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Post by: Plugabugz on December 20, 2007, 09:20:00 PM: Sorry but i don't see how buying Take Two will make EA force them to do anything. EA bought Criterion years ago and we're still yet to see a Burnout, Black or Kairon title on a Nintendo console or handheld.
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Post by: Infernal Monkey on December 20, 2007, 11:05:51 PM: GOTY
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Post by: Plugabugz on December 20, 2007, 11:34:54 PM: Yeah i didn't mention that one for a reason....
Title: RE: Take Two laughs at GTA on Wii
Post by: Infernal Monkey on December 20, 2007, 11:55:21 PM: Because it was GOTY? That makes no sense!