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Title: Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 12, 2007, 12:39:39 PM
Yep, it looks as if I have become a true 360 owner .

I recently started playing Call of Duty 4 and the console was working fine. Then today when I went back to play it the console screeches then freezes. It started doing it with just CoD4. I then tested it with my other games and they all did the same thing. Hell, the console even freezes up at startup.

I've yet to receive the red ring of death and the console works on occasion but the freezing is annoying me to no end.

Any idea what it could be?
Title: RE: Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: Caliban on December 12, 2007, 12:57:15 PM
Is your 360 bought recently?
Is it one of the White 360s? You probably got one of the older models so maybe the cpu in the 360 might be overheating quicker than it should, which leads me to believe that a) you might not have it well ventialted, b) it is really the cpu's fault and I would then suggest you trade it in for a good newer 360 model where that problem was fixed.
I've been playing CoD4, Orange Box(more of this one recently), Ace Combat 6, and Assassin's Creed the heck out of on my Elite, so far no problems.
Title: RE:Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 12, 2007, 01:22:45 PM
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Originally posted by: Caliban
Is your 360 bought recently?
Is it one of the White 360s? You probably got one of the older models so maybe the cpu in the 360 might be overheating quicker than it should, which leads me to believe that a) you might not have it well ventialted, b) it is really the cpu's fault and I would then suggest you trade it in for a good newer 360 model where that problem was fixed.
I've been playing CoD4, Orange Box(more of this one recently), Ace Combat 6, and Assassin's Creed the heck out of on my Elite, so far no problems.


Yeah, I bought it last July.

The 360 is put on an open space near some good ventilation, and I haven't been using it recently so its not like its getting hot very quickly.
Title: RE:Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on December 12, 2007, 01:35:39 PM
Well call MS, they were pretty good about getting my external HDD repaired.
Title: RE: Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 12, 2007, 01:39:46 PM
The system comes with a full 1 year warranty, and 3 years for the 3 red lights, so send it in.
Title: RE: Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 12, 2007, 01:58:48 PM
Erm...does it help that I bought it used? ^_^;

I DID buy an extended warranty because I knew what I was getting into.

I'll just wait and see if the problem goes away by itself.

Also, how do you open a 360? I ask because I have the feeling that something inside of it is causing the freezing.

EDIT: Well, it happened. As soon as I started this the dreaded ring of death appeared.
Title: RE: Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: Maverick on December 12, 2007, 02:56:54 PM
I sent in my 360 for the RROD in August, and when I got my replacement (refurbished) console, it will refuse to boot up about every 1/3 time I turn it on.  It's just a random thing and requires a turn off and turn on to fix, it doesn't freeze or anything.  I guess I'll just have to pony up for an HDMI console once I strike the lottery and can afford to buy expensive things that I already have.
Title: RE: Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: Kairon on December 12, 2007, 03:16:32 PM
I love (hate) how people are just buying more 360's when their old ones break... *sigh*
Title: RE: Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 12, 2007, 03:25:20 PM
I'm actually probably going to buy a new one soon too. Mine is working, as of now, but I've had to fix it a couple times myself (no warranty, as I opened it before the 3 years was announced), but I may sell it to my brother and use my Gamestop store credit to buy one of the new "Falcon" systems.
Title: RE: Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: capamerica on December 12, 2007, 03:40:31 PM
I was in the same boat as you Brandogg. I opened mine up to fix it before the 3 year warranty was announced.
I got a bit more time out of it but it finally bit the dust.
Lucky my newest roommate had her own 360 so I've been able to put off buying another one for awhile.
Been pretty tempted to buy the Halo3 version, it's pretty sweet looking, even thou I'm not a Halo fan.
Title: RE: Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 12, 2007, 03:47:20 PM
So wait, since I haven't opened mine do I get the 3 year warranty thing even if its used?
Title: RE:Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on December 12, 2007, 05:16:57 PM
Where'd you buy it?
Title: RE:Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 12, 2007, 05:41:03 PM
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
Where'd you buy it?


Gamestop.
Title: RE: Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: capamerica on December 12, 2007, 07:25:39 PM
You lucked out, GameStop stopped offering the extended 1 year warranty on Xbox360, If it wasn't for that you actually would have to go directly to MS if your initial 30days were up. The 3 year warranty is only good through MS, so in order to take advantage with it you would have to call them and ship your system to them.

I'm pretty sure the 3 year warranty will work with used systems. You just need to make sure you have the system registered with MS.  
Title: RE: Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 18, 2007, 01:21:47 PM
OK I am EXTREMELY pissed off right now!

On Monday I went to Gamestop to return the broken 360. Like I already said I bought my 360 along with a ONE YEAR warranty. When I went to use the warranty it turns out that it ends the minute I return the broken 360! I thought the point of a ONE YEAR warranty is that if something breaks, even if it does a hundred times you have the right to return it for the whole year.

Anyways, I bring a new 360 home. My nephew plays Guitar Hero 3 for a couple of hours. Then it dies...The system has barely a day of life and its already dead!

I am pissed as all hell right now. I'll try to bring it in tomorrow and I WILL give them a piece of my mind. I will demand to give me a new one, even if I have to pay the difference (I bought the 360 before the price drop at 250. Since an used 360 now costs 200 bucks I can get a new core at 270, even if I have to pay the other 30).

You know what? I'm so pissed off right now I may give up on 360 gaming for good. I won't tolerate this type of crap...
Title: RE: Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 18, 2007, 01:56:16 PM
That's the spirit.
Title: RE: Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 18, 2007, 02:21:22 PM
OK, I vented some anger and talked about it to a friend of mine who happens to be a Gamestop manager, who helped me understand the situation and what to do.

I'll see what I'll be able to do at the store tomorrow. Even if the warranty ended the 30 day should still be in play. If I demand loud enough I can get a brand new 360, even if I have to pay the difference.

If all else fails, there's MS.
Title: RE: Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 18, 2007, 03:52:22 PM
Gamestop are bastards with their warranties. It's not a real 1-year warranty. I believe though, if you have to send it to Microsoft (which I would recommend anyway), they might send you a new system, which will have a new 1 year general/3 year 3 red light warranty.
Title: RE: Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: oohhboy on December 18, 2007, 05:17:40 PM
There is no way in hell you should have to or want to pay the difference. Even though consumer laws here differ from yours, assuming you live in a civilized country, you got given a broken product.  
Title: RE:Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 19, 2007, 08:47:29 AM
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Originally posted by: Brandogg
Gamestop are bastards with their warranties. It's not a real 1-year warranty. I believe though, if you have to send it to Microsoft (which I would recommend anyway), they might send you a new system, which will have a new 1 year general/3 year 3 red light warranty.


Brandogg,

If Microsoft can't fix your 360 they will give you a refurbished 360 thats repaired. Thats the closest thing you will get to a new 360 from Microsoft's repair center.
Title: RE: Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 19, 2007, 09:02:31 AM
I don't think that's always the case. Some people received HDMI systems in return for their old one, right when they started selling them.
Title: RE:Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 19, 2007, 11:19:44 AM
My friends at Toy and Gameland had to send 3 360s for repair and none of the replacements had an HDMI but they did have a 2nd heatsink.
Title: RE: Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 19, 2007, 06:07:31 PM
OK, time to give you guys an update on the situation.

I went to Gamestop and explained to them what was going on. I told them that I wanted a BRAND NEW 360 and that I would pay the difference. Originally, I wanted to get the simple "Arcade' 360. But my parents convinced me it was a better idea to get the Elite bundle. So, minus the 250 I paid for the broken 360 back when I first bought it, the Elite bundle cost me 200 bucks, which is really considering;

- It has a 120 gig HD with lots of demos and arcade games
- It came with two games; Marvel Ultimate Alliance and Forza Motorsport (solid games!(
- It came with a free head set
- A wireless controller

So overall, I am pleased with the decision. The new 360 is working perfectly.
Title: RE: Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 20, 2007, 02:00:50 AM
Congrats, but I would have made sure it's a Falcon system before I bought it, as they are actually more dependable. The easiest way to tell is by the power rating - 175w is Falcon, 203w is most likely not. Also, you get all of that with the Pro system as well, but with 100GB less, though you'll probably never need it anyway.
Title: RE:Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: Maverick on December 20, 2007, 06:47:23 AM
If I ever save up enough to get my dream 52 inch LCD 1080p TV, I will probably buy a new 360 as well since mine is a refurbished piece of junk.  

So what's this about power levels and what not?  Isn't the easiest way to tell if yours is a "Falcon" the HDMI port?
Title: RE:Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on December 20, 2007, 06:51:00 AM
The elite is the way to go from what I heard, supposedly the parts are the best and tested by Microsoft. Personally I love my elite.
Title: RE:Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: Maverick on December 20, 2007, 07:00:02 AM
I would, but I just love the plain white of the original "Core" system too much.  I'd have to go with an Arcade.
Title: RE:Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on December 20, 2007, 07:50:19 AM
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Originally posted by: Maverick
So what's this about power levels and what not?  Isn't the easiest way to tell if yours is a "Falcon" the HDMI port?

No, the easiest way is to check your scouter to see if it's over NINE THOUSAAAAANDD!!

And that shall be my one and only shameless reference to that.  Thank you.
Title: RE: Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: Caliban on December 20, 2007, 11:00:37 AM
@PartBear: LOL!

@pap64: I haven't tried MUA, but Forza2 is awesome and I think it is better than any game in the Gran Turismo series including GT5, yeah I said it, GT5 has no damage or smart AI hah in your face Polyphony Digital...yeah I'm done my rant.
Title: RE:Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: Maverick on December 20, 2007, 11:06:41 AM
GT5 isn't OUT yet...
Title: RE: Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: Caliban on December 20, 2007, 11:23:36 AM
I couldn't care less.
Title: RE: Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 20, 2007, 03:52:07 PM
The system inside the Elite is no different than the Core/Arcade/Pro (now), the paint job and the hard drive are the only difference. When the Elite debuted, the only difference (besides the obvious) was the "Zephyr" motherboard, which introduced HDMI, the HANA scaler chip, and Hitachi 79K DVD-ROMs (harder to mod, a soldered-on "passkey" is required) the rest was the same crap in every other console. All 360's have had HDMI, for a several months now, the Falcons have only been rolling out to stores in the past 2 months or so, and there are several Zephyr systems still out there.
Title: RE: Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 20, 2007, 04:01:50 PM
For those that have the Elite: Did any of you get the 1 month XBOX live Gold membership?

Its advertised on the box as being part of the Elite bundle, yet when I opened the box I couldn't find it. I checked all the manuals, all the bags and checked to see if I dropped it and nothing.

Am I missing something or did MS stop offering it?
Title: RE:Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 20, 2007, 05:57:18 PM
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Originally posted by: pap64
For those that have the Elite: Did any of you get the 1 month XBOX live Gold membership?

Its advertised on the box as being part of the Elite bundle, yet when I opened the box I couldn't find it. I checked all the manuals, all the bags and checked to see if I dropped it and nothing.

Am I missing something or did MS stop offering it?


When you create a new Xbox live account they automatically give you a month of live for free.
Title: RE: Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: Caliban on December 21, 2007, 02:58:39 AM
What Lord_die_seis said.
Title: RE:Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 21, 2007, 12:44:48 PM
I just got a replacement 360 and 1 month Xbox live card they couldnt fix my old 360 and if anyone is wondering no the 360 I recieved does not have a HDMI port and either did my old one.
Title: RE: Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: Maverick on December 22, 2007, 05:11:03 AM
Same thing happened to me.  They said I got a "new" console, but I guess it was a refurbished Core model.  And my replacement has been acting up more than ever now.  The other day I had to restart it like five times in a row before it would even turn on.
Title: RE:Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 22, 2007, 06:51:36 AM
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Originally posted by: Lord_die_seis
Quote

Originally posted by: pap64
For those that have the Elite: Did any of you get the 1 month XBOX live Gold membership?

Its advertised on the box as being part of the Elite bundle, yet when I opened the box I couldn't find it. I checked all the manuals, all the bags and checked to see if I dropped it and nothing.

Am I missing something or did MS stop offering it?


When you create a new Xbox live account they automatically give you a month of live for free.


Hmmm, I tried doing that but I never finished the process.

Can you transfer that offer into your existing account?
Title: RE:Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 22, 2007, 10:53:17 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: pap64
Quote

Originally posted by: Lord_die_seis
Quote

Originally posted by: pap64
For those that have the Elite: Did any of you get the 1 month XBOX live Gold membership?

Its advertised on the box as being part of the Elite bundle, yet when I opened the box I couldn't find it. I checked all the manuals, all the bags and checked to see if I dropped it and nothing.

Am I missing something or did MS stop offering it?


When you create a new Xbox live account they automatically give you a month of live for free.


Hmmm, I tried doing that but I never finished the process.

Can you transfer that offer into your existing account?


No idea but I think its intended for a new account activated on that console.
Title: RE:Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 22, 2007, 11:05:55 AM
Alright I'm sort of getting a little angry ever since I got the replacement console and try to play my arcade games it randomly kicks me off of xbox live as of today and even when I'm on the gametag that I used to download them it defaults me to the trial version of them thanks to microsoft's stupid DRM with arcade games  the DRM says its licensed to the CONSOLE that downloaded it, if your on a different console then in order  to unlock the full version you have to be on xbox live which is retarded.  

If anyone is on and has a xbox live account can you please check for me if xbox live is working and PM me or its my console that can't connect to xbox live for some reason (my internet connection is fine). If its the latter than I'm going to have to go through microsoft customer service hell.


Edit: Microsoft's status is this -
Xbox LIVE Service Status
Status:
Users may be unable to log into Xbox Live. Our engineers are currently investigating and are working to resolve this issue. We apologize for any inconvenience.
Title: RE: Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 22, 2007, 04:37:18 PM
Hopefully they're trying to roll back some of the bans for people that didn't deserve it.
Title: RE:Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 22, 2007, 05:15:17 PM
Even though I know a lot of us on these forums hate the DRMs on the Wii virtual console I think Microsoft's is the worst since the only way the license is stored on the console was purchased from and we all know the life expectancy of a 360 is .
Title: RE:Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on December 22, 2007, 07:11:16 PM
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Originally posted by: Lord_die_seis
Even though I know a lot of us on these forums hate the DRMs on the Wii virtual console I think Microsoft's is the worst since the only way the license is stored on the console was purchased from and we all know the life expectancy of a 360 is .


When I got a new 360 after selling my old one, I could reload all Live Arcade games. I think they are more connected to the gamertag.
Title: RE:Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 23, 2007, 04:13:02 AM
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
Quote

Originally posted by: Lord_die_seis
Even though I know a lot of us on these forums hate the DRMs on the Wii virtual console I think Microsoft's is the worst since the only way the license is stored on the console was purchased from and we all know the life expectancy of a 360 is .


When I got a new 360 after selling my old one, I could reload all Live Arcade games. I think they are more connected to the gamertag.


Disconnect from xbox live and try playing them you will see what I mean. You would be limited to the trial versions.

Title: RE:Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on December 23, 2007, 10:03:33 AM
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Originally posted by: Lord_die_seis
Quote

Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
Quote

Originally posted by: Lord_die_seis
Even though I know a lot of us on these forums hate the DRMs on the Wii virtual console I think Microsoft's is the worst since the only way the license is stored on the console was purchased from and we all know the life expectancy of a 360 is .


When I got a new 360 after selling my old one, I could reload all Live Arcade games. I think they are more connected to the gamertag.


Disconnect from xbox live and try playing them you will see what I mean. You would be limited to the trial versions.


Hmmm, interesting. Didn't know that!
Title: RE: Problems with my XBOX 360
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 26, 2007, 02:22:36 PM
I finally replaced my dead system on Christmas Eve. Got an Arcade (since I already had an HDD and component cables), and went and bought a 6' HDMI cable for $15 down the street. It looks fantastic, and it's a Falcon motherboard, so hopefully it will last for 3 years and 1 day, so I'm forced to buy another.