Post by: ShreddersDojo on November 30, 2007, 05:53:00 AM
If you guys are trying too discourage new site visitors in order too drive traffic costs down, you're doing a good job
. In a way, it's almost counter productive. the more adds you put on a page too try and stay active, the more visitors you loose too similair sites with less annoying adverts in place.I'm off my soap box now, as I really don't want too have too find another reliable Nintendo site
.Later,
Neil
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on November 30, 2007, 06:22:28 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 30, 2007, 06:33:45 AM
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Originally posted by: ViewtifulGamer
Neil, I feel your pain, man. Seeing ads everywhere sucks. That being said, NWR is extremely costly to keep up, so we need those ads to stay afloat. We would never charge readers for content, so this is really the only way. Again, it's a total bummer, but the alternative is even worse.
I'm sure Kairon would be willing to contribute to the upkeep, he would only need to sacrifice several 3rd party games.
Post by: stevey on November 30, 2007, 07:52:03 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on November 30, 2007, 07:52:07 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 30, 2007, 07:55:08 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Get Firefox, use Adblock.
That makes you unpatriotic!
Post by: ShreddersDojo on November 30, 2007, 07:57:46 AM
AOL Radio when Adblock is installed
Post by: vudu on November 30, 2007, 08:13:47 AM
QuoteSell T-Shirts with pictures of the staff on them. I'd buy a shirt with a huge picture of Jonny's face on it in a heartbeat.
Originally posted by: stevey
You could away start selling stuff on the site like t-shirts/E3 dvds/staff positions
Post by: Stogi on November 30, 2007, 08:34:58 AM
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Originally posted by: ShreddersDojo
Already have it, but I can't find anything that blocks the full page adds. Plus Firefox tends too muck up
AOL Radio when Adblock is installed
AOL?!?!?!?!
*head explodes*
Post by: Nick DiMola on November 30, 2007, 09:49:32 AM
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Originally posted by: ShreddersDojo
Already have it, but I can't find anything that blocks the full page adds. Plus Firefox tends too muck up AOL Radio when Adblock is installed
Do you have Adblock or Adblock Plus? Adblock Plus will take care of ALL ads, with subscription to the default filter.
Post by: Crimm on November 30, 2007, 10:06:01 AM
Post by: Shift Key on November 30, 2007, 10:19:10 AM
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Originally posted by: ShreddersDojo
Already have it, but I can't find anything that blocks the full page adds. Plus Firefox tends too muck up
AOL Radio when Adblock is installed
You must be internetting wrong, because with Adblock on I don't see any ads on NWR. Update your version of Firefox and Adblock if you haven't already.
And do a check with your antivirus/anti-malware software, you may have picked up something that's producing ads no matter what site you visit.
Post by: ShyGuy on November 30, 2007, 10:42:20 AM
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on November 30, 2007, 11:52:56 AM
Post by: ShreddersDojo on November 30, 2007, 04:12:10 PM
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Post by: Crimm on November 30, 2007, 07:09:03 PM
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Originally posted by: ViewtifulGamer
If only it were released on Wii... ;_;
Kane and Lynch (DS)
9/10
Pros:
Great use of WiFi
Great Dialog
Great story
Cons:
Not enough Kane and Lynch ads here
psst, eidos.
Post by: wandering on December 11, 2007, 03:03:02 PM
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Originally posted by: ViewtifulGamer
Neil, I feel your pain, man. Seeing ads everywhere sucks. That being said, NWR is extremely costly to keep up, so we need those ads to stay afloat. We would never charge readers for content, so this is really the only way. Again, it's a total bummer, but the alternative is even worse.
Whenever you guys say something like this, I think "well, I know plenty of popular sites whose ads are less odious than NWR's, so NWR must be doing something wrong." But then I remember that most popular gaming websites are just as badly infested with obnoxious ads as NWR (see: Gamespot.) So, do companies just not pay gaming websites as much for ad space as other sites? I can't imagine why that'd be, you'd think they'd pay more for the privilege of advertising to young males with disposable incomes.
Post by: IceCold on December 11, 2007, 03:37:32 PM
Post by: Crimm on December 11, 2007, 05:36:05 PM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
Haven't you heard, Nintendo (and its fan sites) is only for old people.
Post by: KDR_11k on December 12, 2007, 03:17:30 AM
Post by: Ceric on December 12, 2007, 05:11:34 AM
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Originally posted by: stevey
You could away start selling stuff on the site like t-shirts/E3 dvds/staff positions
Or have a place to give donations.
Post by: Crimm on December 12, 2007, 06:01:09 AM
Post by: Stogi on December 12, 2007, 09:02:32 AM
Post by: that Baby guy on December 12, 2007, 09:50:33 AM
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Originally posted by: Crimm
I seem to recall E3 DVDs back in the day...or was that another Nintendo fan site...
It was a different fan site. SHINE GET was from PGC. White is from NWR.
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on December 12, 2007, 09:59:14 AM
As for affiliates, that's from WAY back in the day. The site is completely independent these days.
Post by: UncleBob on December 17, 2007, 02:55:47 AM
Post by: Crimm on December 17, 2007, 05:47:04 AM
Post by: Plugabugz on December 17, 2007, 09:14:01 AM
Post by: UncleBob on December 17, 2007, 09:31:47 AM
Post by: Stogi on December 18, 2007, 08:03:27 AM
best emailing service ever.
Post by: UncleBob on December 18, 2007, 10:19:56 AM
Post by: Ceric on December 18, 2007, 01:42:17 PM
Post by: wulffman04 on January 07, 2008, 06:06:16 PM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Get Firefox, use Adblock.
Here Here!
Post by: Ceric on January 08, 2008, 01:29:38 PM
Post by: DAaaMan64 on January 10, 2008, 06:49:11 PM
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Originally posted by: UncleBob
Unfortunately, I've had this e-mail address *forever* and that's how people know to contact me (Spammers included). I'll have the Hotmail address until I die or Hotmail does...
Spammers probably found you email cause it is sitting in all it's glory right below your posts. Email crawlers love that stuff. If you want to take my advice, have it written as like "unclebob at GMAIL dot com" or something. But some times crawlers are even up on that.
Post by: Crimm on January 14, 2008, 01:14:56 PM
I assume you go there if you want to be lumberjack or make ham and syrup.
Post by: Crimm on February 18, 2008, 10:25:19 AM
are compressing the forum component of the page. The square Rainbow 6: Vegas 2 and Honda "roll-over to expand" ads are the only ones I've see so far.
Post by: MegaByte on February 24, 2008, 01:35:20 AM
Post by: Crimm on February 24, 2008, 11:15:47 PM
Post by: animecyberrat on April 12, 2008, 01:37:48 PM
Post by: King of Twitch on April 12, 2008, 06:28:06 PM
(http://a682.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/3/l_c656da32ea1a1344d52cdccaa93497d1.jpg)
Post by: RABicle on April 13, 2008, 01:19:27 PM
Post by: Maverick on April 14, 2008, 02:56:58 PM
does NWR=Nintendo Whore Report now?
(http://a682.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/3/l_c656da32ea1a1344d52cdccaa93497d1.jpg)
Dang... this is making me wish I didn't have adblock. :-\
Post by: WindyMan on April 14, 2008, 07:02:29 PM
First, about those "questionable" ads. The thing about working with advertising partners is that you don't always know what will show up in the code they give us to put up on the site. Nonetheless, we've contacted them about the ads and let them know that not everyone on our site appreciates them. So we're aware of that.
Secondly, about the new ads in the forum, in general. Look, I know you hate ads. I hate ads. But you know what? There are eyeballs that are looking through the forums that can also be looking at ads, which will generate revenue for us. The reality of the Internet is that the best way to make money from websites is through advertising revenue. Unless you guys want us to charge you money to come to the site, you're going to have to accept this fact. Please note that we're not, nor are we ever, going to start charging people money to come to NWR. We're doing our part, so why don't you?
Finally, to all of those using adblockers, I have a request. Why? If our ads don't load in your browser, we don't make money. Plain and simple. Sure, one person blocking ads isn't going to be a big deal for us, but when you consider that a lot of our readers aren't that much different than you forum guys are, and you're the type that blocks ads, what do you think that tells you about how many people block ads on NWR? If you insist on blocking our ads, the only thing we can do to counter it is to add more ads, which is something no one wants to see. But we may have to do it if the general attitude around here doesn't change.
I just ask you to be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem. Complaining about it isn't going to change the reality of the situation. I promise you that the new NWR will have ads that are better integrated into the site and won't be too much of a nuisance. The forum ads were also kind of shoehorned in, so hopefully before long we'll make them fit in better, too. We want to make it so you won't mind not blocking our ads!
Just remember to think of it from our perspective, and hopefully you'll understand where we're coming from.
Post by: vudu on April 14, 2008, 07:22:33 PM
Unless you guys want us to charge you money to come to the site, you're going to have to accept this fact. Please note that we're not, nor are we ever, going to start charging people money to come to NWR. We're doing our part, so why don't you?
LOL; quote of the year. You can do A or B, but we're not going to let you do A.
Seriously though, many of us have offered to donate some cash to help out. I imagine running the site is expensive, and some of us would be glad to lend a hand.
Finally, to all of those using adblockers, I have a request. Why?
Do you really have to ask?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v144/kingvudu/nwr_ie.png)
vs.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v144/kingvudu/nwr_firefox.png)
These images were taken when PGC first made the switch to NWR, but I just checked and not much has changed. The adds are distracting and--quite frankly--ugly.
If you insist on blocking our ads, the only thing we can do to counter it is to add more ads, which is something no one wants to see.
But if I use AdBlock, this won't matter to me anyway. You're just punishing those who don't block the ads.
There are other ways to make money on the Internet. If you're above accepting charity, why not sell some merchandise?
Post by: DAaaMan64 on April 14, 2008, 07:46:32 PM
Post by: vudu on April 14, 2008, 08:17:11 PM
Post by: that Baby guy on April 14, 2008, 08:23:46 PM
Post by: vudu on April 14, 2008, 08:46:50 PM
Post by: Shift Key on April 14, 2008, 08:59:18 PM
The reality of the Internet is that the best way to make money from websites is through advertising revenue. Unless you guys want us to charge you money to come to the site, you're going to have to accept this fact. Please note that we're not, nor are we ever, going to start charging people money to come to NWR. We're doing our part, so why don't you?
If you are asking me to switch off Adblock when visiting NWR, then I ask that you make these ads less obtrusive. Respect is a two-way road.
After running the latest Firefox 3 beta without Adblock for a couple of days, I couldn't get Adblock back quick enough. The majority of ads (not just NWR, the whole internets) are annoying, irrelevant and borderline spam. And, much like that Monty Python sketch, I am willing to stand up and shout "NO I DON'T LIKE SPAM".
I appreciate that its a source of revenue but I hope that you can appreciate that these ads are being forced upon the users (RABicle's pop-under ads are a example of that).
Its looks like a cop-out, to someone who has followed PGC/NWR for years, to see you guys put some Javascript on a site that cycles through ads from an advertising company which has nothing to do with the essence of NWR (those PS3 ads were ironic and amusing though).
So why not take the road less travelled and work out a smart way to advertise on the site?
Finally, to all of those using adblockers, I have a request. Why? If our ads don't load in your browser, we don't make money. Plain and simple.
Maybe I'm not up on the latest advertising trends, but aren't most advertising models built around "click-throughs" rather than views?
It is easy to disable Adblock for certain sites, but I'm not willing to sit through the current ads that are dished up on NWR. If things change I am willing to reconsider.
Just remember to think of it from our perspective, and hopefully you'll understand where we're coming from.Respect is a two-way road.
Post by: vudu on April 14, 2008, 09:12:52 PM
I know you used to include links to Lik-Sang in your import coverage. I don't know if you made any money off resulting sales, or if you just got free import games to cover for the site.
Post by: Shift Key on April 14, 2008, 09:14:47 PM
I know you used to include links to Lik-Sang in your import coverage. I don't know if you made any money off resulting sales, or if you just got free import games to cover for the site.
Play-Asia do something similar to that
Post by: MegaByte on April 14, 2008, 09:29:40 PM
I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about, but could you work out a deal with an online retailer (Amazon, FamilyVideo, etc.) to include links to their products in your reviews/previews and have them pay you a small commission based on sales generated from the links?
I know you used to include links to Lik-Sang in your import coverage. I don't know if you made any money off resulting sales, or if you just got free import games to cover for the site.
We're working on this for NWR 2.0.
Post by: Maverick on April 15, 2008, 01:19:52 AM
Post by: animecyberrat on April 15, 2008, 10:20:22 AM
Maybe you could do something like Game Spot does, offer premium content for a small subscription fee or something like that? This site really does offer a lot more premium type content than the other gaming sites do for free so maybe not charge for the entire site but charge for the specials or something. I don't know just ignore me.
Post by: Maverick on April 15, 2008, 11:20:14 AM
NWR hates the little guy CONFIRMED.
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on April 15, 2008, 12:57:21 PM
I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about, but could you work out a deal with an online retailer (Amazon, FamilyVideo, etc.) to include links to their products in your reviews/previews and have them pay you a small commission based on sales generated from the links?
I know you used to include links to Lik-Sang in your import coverage. I don't know if you made any money off resulting sales, or if you just got free import games to cover for the site.
We're working on this for NWR 2.0.
I'd just like to say for the record that I buy most of my games through Amazon, and if you had a partner link, I'd make extensive use of it.
Post by: animecyberrat on April 15, 2008, 03:07:45 PM
Post by: RABicle on April 16, 2008, 01:51:40 PM
You know what a pain in the ass it is to process credit cards?Pay fucking Pal. PGC had an account before, now I'm actually old enough to have money and my own Pay Pal account. Look I'll pledge $20 of your US dollars right now!
Post by: Dasmos on April 17, 2008, 05:00:04 AM
Post by: King of Twitch on April 18, 2008, 02:44:32 PM
Maybe if they're replaced with more and more annoying ads, intrude more and more into my privacy, I'll be more likely to click on them!
Post by: WindyMan on April 21, 2008, 04:54:44 PM
Also, I want to say that I just came up with a brilliant, ads-related idea that everyone here will get a kick out of. This idea of mine is so brilliant that you'll wonder why we didn't do it before! I'm not going to say what it is until I work it out with Ty, but needless to say I think you'll love it!!!
Post by: Crimm on April 21, 2008, 05:03:37 PM
This idea of mine is so brilliant that you'll wonder why we didn't do it before! I'm not going to say what it is until I work it out with Ty, but needless to say I think you'll love it!!!
I look forward to seeing these tweaks sometime in 2011.
Post by: vudu on April 21, 2008, 05:09:07 PM
Post by: Shift Key on April 21, 2008, 08:22:10 PM
Are you going to start including clickable ads within our titles?
They sold the user titles to Golden Palace. Why lie?
can't wait to see the actual changes
Post by: Plugabugz on April 22, 2008, 12:43:37 PM
Post by: IceCold on April 23, 2008, 01:14:04 AM
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Also, I want to say that I just came up with a brilliant, ads-related idea that everyone here will get a kick out of.
Sounds good. Now the only thing we need to figure out is whether the stars in the title of thread stand for "goddamn" or "fucking".. they have the same number of letters.
Post by: Crimm on April 23, 2008, 04:14:55 AM
i will promptly throw bread.
Is that some sort of English colloquialism or do you just generally enjoy wasting baked goods?
Post by: that Baby guy on April 23, 2008, 01:36:35 PM
Post by: Caliban on April 23, 2008, 03:57:03 PM
Post by: Plugabugz on April 24, 2008, 07:41:18 AM
Post by: DAaaMan64 on September 24, 2008, 08:20:25 PM
There was an unacceptable ad with:
half naked girls looking for sex TONIGHT,
and sound.
was this an accident? I block these.
Post by: D_Average on September 24, 2008, 08:22:42 PM
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on September 25, 2008, 06:30:28 PM
Bump!
There was an unacceptable ad with:
half naked girls looking for sex TONIGHT,
and sound.
was this an accident? I block these.
I have seen this one too, and we are registering a formal complaint with our ad networks. It's much, much worse than the True ads.
Post by: DAaaMan64 on September 25, 2008, 06:32:19 PM
Bump!
There was an unacceptable ad with:
half naked girls looking for sex TONIGHT,
and sound.
was this an accident? I block these.
I have seen this one too, and we are registering a formal complaint with our ad networks. It's much, much worse than the True ads.
Ya it's okay, I figured it was an accident.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 25, 2008, 06:37:44 PM
Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 22, 2008, 08:20:06 PM
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 23, 2008, 02:53:35 AM
Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 23, 2008, 03:09:24 AM
Post by: D_Average on October 23, 2008, 10:19:34 AM
Post by: stevey on October 23, 2008, 04:19:02 PM
http://eas.apm.emediate.eu/media.5/10/1001/22359/GD01_Wii_7_22_08_ROLLOVER_AUDIO_728x90.swf
Post by: D_Average on October 29, 2008, 11:51:55 AM
http://www.raidentech.com/r4dsrefornid.html?gclid=CMWl5fjkzJYCFRs-awodExnEyA
Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 30, 2008, 01:46:09 AM
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on November 05, 2008, 05:04:07 AM
Post by: DAaaMan64 on November 25, 2008, 08:11:13 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 25, 2008, 08:36:21 PM
Post by: DAaaMan64 on November 25, 2008, 08:43:03 PM
Post by: DAaaMan64 on November 30, 2008, 10:31:27 PM
NWR, can I have some word on this? We are above sound ads aren't we?
Post by: MegaByte on December 03, 2008, 12:29:57 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 03, 2008, 12:56:22 AM
Post by: MegaByte on December 03, 2008, 01:10:19 AM
Post by: DAaaMan64 on December 03, 2008, 01:25:51 AM
After the latest ad debacles, we have severed ties with our ad provider. Hopefully, you won't experience any more intrusion and we apologize for the inconveniences.Thanks for the update Aaron!
Post by: D_Average on December 03, 2008, 03:09:12 PM
Post by: D_Average on December 03, 2008, 04:42:00 PM
