Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 01, 2007, 04:59:38 PM
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Finally, this gets underway with a standing ovation for the WGA committee that has been leading the way during these labor negotiations. It's a full house, and everyone is at rapt attention as leaders discuss where negotiations stand.
A few minutes into the gathering, there is no more uncertainty: There will be a strike, leaders tell the thousands of WGA members in attendence. Leaders will send out a press release tomorrow afternoon, telling members precisely when the strike will begin. The Screen Actors Guild president says the actors guild is in full support of the strike and will stand by the writers for as long as it takes.
Not sure how many have been paying attention, but this could very well mean seasons cut short of most scripted shows (But we still will get those crappy reality shows and perhaps more!), and many of Hollywood's movies could be ground to a halt with no writers to polish or write scripts. Some even predict that this strike could potentially ruin the economy of California, or at least hurt it immensely. Whether that is the case or not, we'll see, but regardless expect seasons to be cut short for shows along with the quality possibly dwindling, especially for serialized TV shows (if they are even made now).
Post by: that Baby guy on November 01, 2007, 05:22:29 PM
Now, what about SNL? Brian Williams is going to be the host, so he's in the clear from the strike, but the writers of the show aren't, right? So how can that work. I'm so confused...
Post by: Kairon on November 01, 2007, 05:24:04 PM
UGLY BETTYYYYYYYYY!!!!!
Post by: Stogi on November 01, 2007, 05:27:51 PM
Sounds like a bunch of whiny bitches.....
Post by: ShyGuy on November 01, 2007, 06:20:35 PM
edit: wait, Ugly Betty? You're really a manly man, aren't you Kairon?
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 01, 2007, 06:28:12 PM
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This sucks for people who like TV. I don't know the politics or the goal, but I do know that this needs to be solved quickly for most places not to notice an effect. We're going to get a lot of news, though.
Now, what about SNL? Brian Williams is going to be the host, so he's in the clear from the strike, but the writers of the show aren't, right? So how can that work. I'm so confused...
I am not sure about the specifics, but I do know many talk shows like Leno, Colbert, Stewart and others could very well be affected so SNL may be as well. This strike, unless it is resolved soon, will more than likely stall new shows (they could even be canned because of it), halt production on movies (especially ones that have only been recently announced), and shorten seasons for TV shows. Freshmen year TV shows like Bionic Woman, Pushing Daisies, Reaper and a myriad of others could have seasons cut short which could spell the end to them.
Post by: Kairon on November 01, 2007, 06:38:49 PM
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edit: wait, Ugly Betty? You're really a manly man, aren't you Kairon?
I used to watch Gilmore Girls before it got predictable and dragged-out.
But don't worry about me Shyguy. I own Brave Heart, Starship Troopers, and both Demolition Man and Judge Dredd. I think I'm safe.
Post by: IceCold on November 01, 2007, 06:40:29 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 01, 2007, 06:44:47 PM
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Nooo! Pushing Daisies!
It would be too bad if that show was hurt, it is so unique compared to most of the run of the mill stuff on TV now days (Kind of like Dead Like Me was before it, created by the same guy).
Post by: Stogi on November 01, 2007, 06:54:43 PM
I hope nothing happens to those shows.
Post by: wandering on November 01, 2007, 06:57:10 PM
Post by: nickmitch on November 01, 2007, 07:14:26 PM
Post by: Kairon on November 01, 2007, 07:39:51 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 01, 2007, 07:43:54 PM
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Actually, isn't a lot of TV GOOD now? I mean, I don't watch a lot of TV mainly because I have an inability to consistently remember that a show is on at some arbitrary time on a specific day week after week, but... haven't things gotten better?
I have a ton of shows I watch on TV:
Lost, Smallville, Battlestar Galactica (I am most worried about this one), Heroes, Reaper, Pushing Daisies, Bionic Woman (not the best but still fun), Stargate Atlantis, Supernatural, and ::hides face:: Flash Gordon (Hey it has gotten better).
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 01, 2007, 08:26:52 PM
Those poor writers only make 70k a season! They are virtually in the poor house! A story editor only gets paid a 3 figure income with 30k for an hour long script. Oh yeah to top it off, the Screen Actors Guild may go on strike this summer along with the directors. Who would have thought that Hollywood stars were that poverty stricken?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 01, 2007, 08:28:48 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 01, 2007, 08:28:59 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 01, 2007, 08:30:38 PM
THIS IS YOUR CHANCE EVAN, AN OPENING HAS BEEN MADE FOR YOU!
Post by: Adrock on November 01, 2007, 08:34:41 PM
Post by: SixthAngel on November 03, 2007, 07:59:16 AM
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Thought I'd update this with what a writer makes according to this CNN Money.
Those poor writers only make 70k a season! They are virtually in the poor house! A story editor only gets paid a 3 figure income with 30k for an hour long script. Oh yeah to top it off, the Screen Actors Guild may go on strike this summer along with the directors. Who would have thought that Hollywood stars were that poverty stricken?
I wouldn't trust that quote at all. It says newcomers who work as a full time writer. Besides the fact that I have no idea how many full time writers shows actually hire, or if most writers even work full-time anywhere, and I doubt almost any show actually hires newcomers for large amounts of time. It is pretty misleading unless you know actual hiring practices and how things work in the expensive Hollywood.
Writers are arguably the most important part of film and movies and they often get screwed compared to everyone else who contributes to what is filmed. Let them strike, they deserve more. With a possible actors guild strike in the works the producers and networks should be in a weak position and I hope they are forced to give more credit and money to quality writers.
Post by: Shift Key on November 03, 2007, 12:15:25 PM
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Good thing there's nothing good on TV.
Post by: Kairon on November 03, 2007, 12:22:37 PM
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::hides face:: Flash Gordon (Hey it has gotten better).
Haha! I watch Flash Gordon because the writers are just so... artless... it's almost refreshingly un-apologetic!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 03, 2007, 01:23:25 PM
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Thought I'd update this with what a writer makes according to this CNN Money.
Those poor writers only make 70k a season! They are virtually in the poor house! A story editor only gets paid a 3 figure income with 30k for an hour long script. Oh yeah to top it off, the Screen Actors Guild may go on strike this summer along with the directors. Who would have thought that Hollywood stars were that poverty stricken?
I wouldn't trust that quote at all. It says newcomers who work as a full time writer. Besides the fact that I have no idea how many full time writers shows actually hire, or if most writers even work full-time anywhere, and I doubt almost any show actually hires newcomers for large amounts of time. It is pretty misleading unless you know actual hiring practices and how things work in the expensive Hollywood.
Writers are arguably the most important part of film and movies and they often get screwed compared to everyone else who contributes to what is filmed. Let them strike, they deserve more. With a possible actors guild strike in the works the producers and networks should be in a weak position and I hope they are forced to give more credit and money to quality writers.
Now if only there were more quality writers out there, maybe I'd agree with you. The vast majority of terrible average. Don't even get me started on the actors guild.
Post by: mantidor on November 03, 2007, 04:55:56 PM
I used to watch House, but it ended up boring me. I guess I'm better off sticking to games like Bill
Post by: SixthAngel on November 03, 2007, 11:29:17 PM
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Well the only thing I watch download is Heroes, oh and Ugly Betty as well, just to check how our original concept gets ripped into pieces by your writers (ok its actually not that bad...). With the way Heroes is going I think they will actually benefit from the strike, because the writers they have right now are terrible, anyone could do better.
Except Heroes was supposed to be only have one season based on those characters. Originally they wanted make the next season have all new characters in the same world but some brass up top saw the popularity and thought that somehow it would be best for ratings if they forced characters into new situations ensuring it would suck. The writers weren't the ones who decided to do this so don't blame them for being told to polish a turd.
There are good writers out there and but it is difficult for them to shine. The writer of great movie doesn't get credit like a director or actor does so it is often difficult to follow them. Not to mention that huge studios often get a good script and then send to more and more studio writers to "polish" it usually destroying the original vision. The studios, directors, and sometimes even actors often have the power to push their writers around like that.
Post by: Crimm on November 04, 2007, 06:49:08 AM
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many of Hollywood's movies could be ground to a halt with no writers to polish or write scripts.
I friggin hope so. Fred Clause and Meet the Spartans? May it bankrupt the movie industry.
Post by: ThePerm on November 04, 2007, 07:35:36 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 04, 2007, 07:40:55 AM
But be sure to submit your preview copy to us for review.
Post by: Crimm on November 04, 2007, 07:41:56 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 04, 2007, 11:17:36 AM
Post by: Chile Boy on November 04, 2007, 11:23:36 AM
i dont really watch tv very much since i got my Wii .....The japanese are still making anime so ill just watch that stuff forever till better shows come on...MEANING NEVER
Post by: Caliban on November 04, 2007, 11:34:29 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 04, 2007, 12:07:08 PM
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I hope Dexter doesn't get cancelled or something, it's my favorite running series of the moment.
Definitely, that is a great show, with some of the best writing on TV. Hopefully by next season (if it gets a next season) this strike will have been resolved.
Post by: Mario on November 04, 2007, 12:46:50 PM
Post by: Caliban on November 04, 2007, 03:37:02 PM
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I hope Dexter doesn't get cancelled or something, it's my favorite running series of the moment.
Definitely, that is a great show, with some of the best writing on TV. Hopefully by next season (if it gets a next season) this strike will have been resolved.
Surprisingly, Dexter is based off of a book. Book 1 is season one, according to Peer Schneider (IGN) the book was alot more graphic about Dexter's kills. Book 2 is season 2. So if whoever is writing these books decides to release Book 3 then we will certainly get a season 3.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 04, 2007, 05:44:30 PM
What is the WGA striking for?
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Tonight, the WGA's new Communications Committee blog clarifies where the guild stands on the issues:
''What's the biggest issue? Internet and New Media
What are we asking for in Internet and New Media? Two things:
1. Residuals for reuse of content (like replaying tv shows) on the internet. We're asking for residuals of 2.5% of revenue -- that means for every dollar they get paid, we'd get 2 and a half cents. It's a flat percentage, so if they're right and they're never ever going to make a penny, well then, we won't either. No harm, no foul. Since 2.5% is our starting point, in any normal negotiation we'd end up somewhere between what they want to pay (.3%) and what we're asking for (2.5%). I'd guess 1 to 1.5 %.
2. Coverage and protections for original content (new stuff we create for the internet.) We're asking for basic protections so that when we write original stuff for the internet, we have rights -- health and pension, minimum amounts, credits and separated rights (so if we make some amazing character or show, we get the right to share in its success.) We're just asking for the same protections we already have for writing in TV or film. Nothing new or weird. Just the basics.
What are the other issues? DVDs: Currently we get .3% per dvd, we're asking for .6%. Translation: now we get 4 cents per dvd. We are asking for 8 cents per dvd. Since most DVD's cost at least 10 bucks, that doesn't exactly seem like a bank-breaker. Whatever.
Enforcement of Coverage: There are lots of shows, like game shows, documentaries and talk shows, where writing is supposed to be covered under our contract. The companies sometimes just ignore the contract -- which means folks don't get health and pension, and if they ask for it, they get fired. We want them to stop that, and honor the contract they signed.
Expansion of Coverage: We want to cover stuff where writers are working without coverage, which means without health and pension and other protections. The two big areas are animation and reality. We think those writers should be covered.
It doesn't seem like what they are asking for is unreasonable at all, and it is only cents on a dollar plus already promised benefits.
Writers Strike Approved - IGN
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November 2, 2007 - Update: The Writers Guild of America held a press conference Friday, and officially set Monday morning at 12:00 am PT as the beginning of the strike. They have stated that they are open to negotiations over the weekend as long as the companies will stop insisting DVD residuals cannot be increased. Variety quotes WGA negotiating committee chairman John Bowman as saying "We don't want to strike. What we really want to do is negotiate."
What LA Times has to say on the matter
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...The Daily Show & The Colbert Report will be affected...
Variety's input on the Strike
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...The Tonight Show, David Letterman, Conan O'Brien, Jimmy Kimmel, SNL and other Late Nite television to all take damages...
Shows affected by the strike - www.WGA.org
A quick summary with some details of completion:
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Canceled Shows: Heroes: Origins has been canceled, and while it may come back if the strike is resolved quickly, it's halted all production in the meantime.
Suspended Shows (will air reruns for an indefinite time): The Colbert Report, The Daily Show, all late night talk shows (Leno, Letterman, Kimmel, Ferguson, Daly) as well as any shows produced within a small window of time (South Park could be affected). Live shows such as SNL will also be suspended.
Shows that have an uncertain future: Here's a list of where taped shows stand at the moment (all from IGN/LA Times):
Entourage, Big Love: Summer of 08, will likely be pushed back later if the strike continues.
Lost: Has 8 of 16 episodes ready to run.
Scrubs: Expected to complete 12 of 18 episodes.
Jericho: All shows ready, no season delay expected.
Friday Night Lights: 15 of 22 episodes ready.
Battlestar Galactica: "10 hours" worth of material ready, with a two hour movie finished.
Men in Trees: 19 of 27 completed.
Everybody Hates Chris: All eps completed.
October Road: 13 shows written.
The Simpsons: 22 shows complete, though the crew cautions that rewrites are usually inevitable so the future is uncertain in the meantime.
Prison Break: 13 episodes written, can do a season finale prematurely if need be.
Damages: Has not yet been picked up by FX; strike will not allow FX to go into preproduction and the show will be in limbo, much like Heroes: Origins.
Monk, Psych: Half of each season ready for shooting.
Nip/Tuck: have enough shows to last into February; last eight will be determined later.
The Shield: Season has been written.
The Wire: Episodes are complete, full season to air as expected.
Law and Order: CI: 10 of 22 episodes finished.
Cane: All eps completed.
24: Huge production issues with only eight eps completed, and several rewrites in order. It could be pushed back into later 2008.
The Office: unknown at this time.
Unaffected Shows: Reality-based programs like Great American Band and Bachelor, gameshows like The Singing Bee and Deal or no Deal, and all news shows. Shows based on others shows (The Soup) will likely be even more hilarious. Shows that didn't seem to have any writers to begin with (Cavemen) will likely continue. LOLOLOLOLOLOL
At least The Shield shall finish uninterrupted
Post by: Arbok on November 04, 2007, 06:46:13 PM
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Suspended Shows (will air reruns for an indefinite time): The Colbert Report, The Daily Show....
NOOO!!!!
Well, I was kind of expecting it, at least, as Jon mentioned the strike on the last show just before the end of the episode, and it did sound like they would be taking a break. Still a shame...
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 05, 2007, 03:25:49 AM
Unless you watch The Wire, The Shield and Everybody Hates Chris.
Post by: nickmitch on November 05, 2007, 04:46:40 AM
Post by: Nick DiMola on November 05, 2007, 05:26:08 AM
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The Office: unknown at this time.
Hell no, this show better not get dumped. I will have to smack some people around. This and South Park are the only shows I watch on TV, I will be seriously pissed if it doesn't continue.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 05, 2007, 06:53:41 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 05, 2007, 10:47:27 AM
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In a show of solidarity with his fellow scribes, the Daily Show host has told his writing staff that he will cover all their salaries for the next two weeks, according to a well-placed source. He has also vowed to do the same for writers on The Colbert Report. A Comedy Central spokesman referred my inquiry about this to Stewart's personal publicist, who has yet to respond.
Stewart's intention, says the source, is to ensure his writers will face no financial hardship should the strike, which kicked off at 3 a.m. local time, conclude within that time frame.
Read more news about Jon Stewart and the WGA Writers' Strike, as well as the Huffington Post's regularly updated Writers' Strike Opinion page.
Something tells me that he knows a way to write it all off come tax time
Post by: Mario on November 05, 2007, 11:29:43 AM
Post by: Arbok on November 05, 2007, 12:01:29 PM
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I like to call this one "Why Jon Stewart is the MAN!!!"]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/1...r_n_71164.html[/l]"[/L]
Link is broken... but oh man that is awesome news!
I'm amazed that he is doing it for both the Daily Show and the Colbert Report, but I couldn't be happier all the same!
Post by: Shift Key on November 05, 2007, 12:09:04 PM
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I'm amazed that he is doing it for both the Daily Show and the Colbert Report, but I couldn't be happier all the same!
The Colbert Report is a spin-off from the Daily Show - it was started by Colbert and Stewart because they wanted to do something more satirical (and make the Colbert character the focus of a show).
Post by: IceCold on November 05, 2007, 12:49:11 PM
Post by: Arbok on November 05, 2007, 02:02:55 PM
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I'm sure Arbok knows that.
Yep, hell I have been watching the Daily Show since Craig Kilborn was the host. I'm just amazed that Jon is going to cover the salaries of that many writers, even if it is for "just" two weeks.
Post by: TrueNerd on November 05, 2007, 03:40:40 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 05, 2007, 03:45:54 PM
There was also an update that has Jon Stewart's Rep denying everything about paying salaries, but does mention contingency plans of keeping the show alive w/o any written material.
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Post by: Deguello on November 06, 2007, 05:40:35 PM
Best show on TV. Best Comedy Ever.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 06, 2007, 06:04:43 PM
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Shows affected by the strike - www.WGA.org
I think you better check the list again.
Post by: Deguello on November 06, 2007, 06:34:16 PM
Edit: on the plus side, this means the possibility of less Family Guy on television.
Funny thing about Family Guy. The U.S. military tried showing it to enemy combatants at Guantanamo in an effort to see the wonders of American life and how much better it is than Islamofascism and all that. After 3 minutes of pain and groaning all of them asked to be waterboarded instead. This is a tru story 100% authenticated by documents that may or may not exist.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 06, 2007, 07:07:18 PM
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Shows affected by the strike - www.WGA.org
I think you better check the list again.
It is funny because many of those guys are the only ones that can write a compelling script in the first place! Regardless I hope this strike ends soon it is hurting ALOT of people, including those that work on movie and TV sets (There is more to TV and movie production then writers and execs), but they are pretty much ignored. Heck even the people that give the writers work are getting screwed, the VIEWERS, because without them none of these guys would have their positions. What is most disappointing is that people are paying for products (especially cable TV) that they are not getting the benefit of. So I think it is in everyones best interest to see an end soon.
Post by: 18 Days on November 06, 2007, 07:52:20 PM
Post by: Ceric on November 07, 2007, 02:35:01 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 07, 2007, 06:47:30 AM
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Darn it Eureka's on there. Scrubs isn't... I actually be very surprised if Scrubs scripts weren't already done for the rest of the show before it even started this season.
All my favorite shows are on there.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 07, 2007, 04:11:33 PM
The Wire is completely written, along with Everybody hates Chris and The Shield.
What will be interesting is what happens with South Park next week.
DO you think Matt and Trey actually scripted something out ahead of time due to the strike or are they just gonna run re-runs and cut the season short?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 07, 2007, 05:26:13 PM
source
Post by: UncleBob on November 08, 2007, 02:31:25 AM
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A QUESTION ...
Those striking Hollywood writers ... are their picket signs blank?
Post by: matt oz on November 10, 2007, 12:30:20 PM
They're telling Jay Leno if he doesn't come back to film more shows, they'll fire his staff.
They just fired 102 crew members on 'The Office'.
All in an attempt to make the writers feel guilty and stop striking.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 10, 2007, 12:36:19 PM
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NBC is trying to strongarm the writers into coming back to work.
They're telling Jay Leno if he doesn't come back to film more shows, they'll fire his staff.
They just fired 102 crew members on 'The Office'.
All in an attempt to make the writers feel guilty and stop striking.
I hate to break it to you, but this stuff happens when you have nothing to work on. You can't have people working for you that do nothing, so expect to see layoffs galore especially when the networks start losing money. The guilds should feel guilty because they are the root cause of nothing being produced, and guess what the people that are getting stomped on won't benefit at all even if the networks meet the demands of the guild, the most they can hope for is that they still have a job.
Post by: Kairon on November 10, 2007, 01:25:47 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 10, 2007, 01:27:54 PM
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
I hate to break it to you, but this stuff happens when you have nothing to work on. You can't have people working for you that do nothing, so expect to see layoffs galore especially when the networks start losing money. The guilds should feel guilty because they are the root cause of nothing being produced, and guess what the people that are getting stomped on won't benefit at all even if the networks meet the demands of the guild, the most they can hope for is that they still have a job.
"What a plot twist! I better write this one down..."
Post by: Shift Key on November 10, 2007, 01:49:37 PM
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The guilds should feel guilty because they are the root cause of nothing being produced, and guess what the people that are getting stomped on won't benefit at all even if the networks meet the demands of the guild, the most they can hope for is that they still have a job.
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Good thing there's nothing good on TV.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 10, 2007, 02:21:26 PM
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I hate to break it to you, but this stuff happens when you have nothing to work on. You can't have people working for you that do nothing, so expect to see layoffs galore especially when the networks start losing money. The guilds should feel guilty because they are the root cause of nothing being produced, and guess what the people that are getting stomped on won't benefit at all even if the networks meet the demands of the guild, the most they can hope for is that they still have a job.
"What a plot twist! I better write this one down..."
Lol. I just hope this thing gets taken care of soon, because people are getting caught in the crossfire. There is greed coming from both sides with their own self interests playing a big part of it. The guilds only care about the writers, and getting more power, the networks mainly care about the bottom line and the shareholders. Everyone else is caught between them and are powerless.
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 13, 2007, 11:41:46 PM
Post by: wandering on January 05, 2008, 08:38:28 PM
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 05, 2008, 08:49:40 PM
Post by: 18 Days on January 06, 2008, 03:29:36 AM
Good to see my comrades are keeping true to each other, I've decided that I'm not watering the garden either now until the networks submit to our demands.
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 06, 2008, 05:20:21 AM
Post by: Caliban on January 06, 2008, 11:11:04 AM
Post by: Kairon on January 06, 2008, 12:13:50 PM
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I'm torn. Part of me wants things to be resolved quickly, because I want to see Joss Whedon's new show as soon as possible. Part of me doesn't, because Conan is funnier without writers.
New show?! Do tell!
Post by: wandering on January 06, 2008, 07:00:25 PM
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I'm torn. Part of me wants things to be resolved quickly, because I want to see Joss Whedon's new show as soon as possible. Part of me doesn't, because Conan is funnier without writers.
New show?! Do tell!
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117975136.html?categoryid=14&cs=1
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"Dollhouse" follows a top-secret world of people programmed with different personalities, abilities and memories depending on their mission.
After each assignment -- which can be physical, romantic or even illegal -- the characters have their memories wiped clean, and are sent back to a lab (dubbed the "Dollhouse"). Show centers on Dushku's character, Echo, as she slowly begins to develop some self-awareness, which impacts her missions.
Post by: oohhboy on January 06, 2008, 11:24:33 PM
Now Burn Notice, there is a good show.
Post by: Plugabugz on January 06, 2008, 11:38:54 PM
Post by: Caliban on January 07, 2008, 03:56:01 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 07, 2008, 04:31:33 AM
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I'm torn. Part of me wants things to be resolved quickly, because I want to see Joss Whedon's new show as soon as possible. Part of me doesn't, because Conan is funnier without writers.
New show?! Do tell!
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"Dollhouse" follows a top-secret world of people programmed with different personalities, abilities and memories depending on their mission.
After each assignment -- which can be physical, romantic or even illegal -- the characters have their memories wiped clean, and are sent back to a lab (dubbed the "Dollhouse"). Show centers on Dushku's character, Echo, as she slowly begins to develop some self-awareness, which impacts her missions.
Sounds fascinating, I had never heard of the show before. Sadly I don't foresee the strike ending soon.
Post by: IceCold on January 07, 2008, 05:43:55 PM
QuoteShouldn't you be asleep when Conan is on?
I'm torn. Part of me wants things to be resolved quickly, because I want to see Joss Whedon's new show as soon as possible. Part of me doesn't, because Conan is funnier without writers.
Post by: ShyGuy on January 07, 2008, 05:49:29 PM
Post by: wandering on January 07, 2008, 05:55:10 PM
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Shouldn't you be asleep when Conan is on?
Why?
Post by: Plugabugz on January 12, 2008, 06:23:49 AM
