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Title: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on October 13, 2007, 03:02:37 AM: Welcome to the Aperture Science Enrichment Center. One the test is over, you will be baked [Garbled words] cake.

Anyway, Portal is one of the games that comes with the Orange Box. It's best called a first-person puzzle game, as while it uses the same engine as Half-Life 2 and Counter-Strike, the only weapon you have is your trusty Portal Gun (NOTE: Do not submerge in water, even partially) and your not-so-trusty brain.

I'll throw some screenshots up later, but at its basic level Portal is about getting from Point A to Point B. But normally this would be impossible, but not with your Aperture Science Enrichment Center Handheld Portal Device. The game itself is only 19 Test Chambers, but that's not counting the Bonus Maps, Challenges, ending levels and, of course, user-made maps.

Now for the plot:
You play as a test participant (willing or unwilling is unknown) named Chell Johnson. Yes, it's a woman. I'd like to say this: NO SHE'S NOT AN ANDROID OR COMBINE. THOSE THINGS ON HER LEGS KEEP THEM FROM BREAKING AFTER EACH FALL. Anyway, Chell is much like Gordon Freeman in that she never says anything. But that doesn't mean Portal doesn't have personality. That comes for the AI giving you directions, GLaDOS. Some of the things she says are hilarious, especially the ending song. You're promised cake at the end of the test, but the scribblings on the walls from previous test participants tell a different story...

I can't be the only one loving this game on NWR.

YouTube trailer link
Title: RE:Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: vudu on October 13, 2007, 03:28:40 AM: I'm playing the flash version.

I just beat the game. And I don't know what you're complaining about, because I got cake at the end. I win.
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 13, 2007, 09:15:39 AM: Played and beat it today...Great game...

I particularly love the turrets that you come up against...Are you still there? There you are. Put me down! Hey! I don't hate you. Etcetera, etcetera...

And the boss going crazy at the end..."Don't believe me? Here, I'll put you on...<dorky>Hello!</dorky> That's you! That's how DUMB you sound!"...Classic...

I've gone and uploaded the ending theme and a few sound clips...
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: that Baby guy on October 13, 2007, 10:38:54 AM: I'd buy the orange box, but I doubt my laptop could handle it. It's on my list for when I upgrade in a few years, though.
Title: RE:Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 13, 2007, 11:47:11 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: thatguy
I'd buy the orange box, but I doubt my laptop could handle it. It's on my list for when I upgrade in a few years, though.

Really? What kind of laptop do you have, because many of the games are well optimized.
Title: RE:Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on October 13, 2007, 12:24:44 PM: Quote
Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Played and beat it today...Great game...

I particularly love the turrets that you come up against...Are you still there? There you are. Put me down! Hey! I don't hate you. Etcetera, etcetera...

And the boss going crazy at the end..."Don't believe me? Here, I'll put you on...<dorky>Hello!</dorky> That's you! That's how DUMB you sound!"...Classic...

I've gone and uploaded the ending theme and a few sound clips...

Yeah, They jammed a lot of personality into the GLaDOS fight. Especially how each one of her "brain spheres" has it own personality. I loved the curiosity one. "Hey, you're the lady from the test! Hi!" "Where are we going?" "Eww, what's wrong with your legs" "Do you smell something burning?".

Quote
Originally posted by: thatguy
I'd buy the orange box, but I doubt my laptop could handle it. It's on my list for when I upgrade in a few years, though.

What's your laptop's stats? If you can run the Half-Life 2 demo, you can probably run the Orange Box.
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Post by: BigJim on October 13, 2007, 01:53:44 PM: Love Portal. It's fresh, funny... I think it would be a great Wii game, too.
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 13, 2007, 04:57:14 PM: I bet Valve ports Portal to Wii in the near future. It's fun as Hell, though I'm kind of stuck right now. I'm trying not to use guides...
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: UncleBob on October 13, 2007, 05:00:51 PM: I'm enjoying this flash version... thanks for the link vudu...
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 13, 2007, 05:36:02 PM: How do you get past level15 in the flash game?
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 13, 2007, 05:53:04 PM: I will help you...

1. Shoot a portal up above the door...
2. Shoot a portal below you...
3. Jump into the portal below you, and you should have enough momentum to carry past the glass, and next to the electric field...
4. Now shoot a portal below you...It MUST be the color of the portal you first jumped into (so leave the one above the door)
5. Be sure not to fall below...
6. Now produce a new portal down below that gets rid of the one above the door...
7. Now timing with the electric field, jump into the portal and you'll have enough momentum to fly up onto the electric plate
8. Just jump across to the exit!
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 13, 2007, 06:00:58 PM: I am not understanding steps 6- 8 so maybe a picture will help you explain it to me so that I can better understand

So what do I do from here?
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 13, 2007, 06:29:29 PM: Jump into the yellow portal carefully so you land up the upper left ledge...Then from there produce a blue portal below you (so your yellow portal will stay where it is)...Then just jump down into your new blue portal, and you'll come flying up out of the yellow portal...
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 13, 2007, 06:44:16 PM: Ohhh, now I feel stupid for not thinking of that my self. Thanx Bill.
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: Mashiro on October 13, 2007, 09:58:57 PM: I can't figure out stage 9. I'm stupid ;_;
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: vudu on October 14, 2007, 04:07:20 AM: Some of the later levels on the flash version are pretty brutal. Some of they take a long time to figure out what you need to do. A few of them are real easy to figure out but it takes a lot of practice to pull it off. Are any of the levels in the real game as tricky as the ones in the flash version? I'm not sure how some of those hard puzzles would work in 3D.
Title: RE:Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: KnowsNothing on October 14, 2007, 04:20:44 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: Mashiro
I can't figure out stage 9. I'm stupid ;_;

Protip: you need to shoot a portal mid-air
Title: RE:Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 14, 2007, 04:25:42 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: KnowsNothing
Quote
Originally posted by: Mashiro
I can't figure out stage 9. I'm stupid ;_;

Protip: you need to shoot a portal mid-air

You have to do that quite a bit in the real game...
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: Mashiro on October 14, 2007, 05:51:23 AM: To where though . . . I can't open a portal anywhere else.
Title: RE:Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 14, 2007, 05:55:27 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: Mashiro
To where though . . . I can't open a portal anywhere else.

Post a screen shot, (print screen, then open MS paint and paste)
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: vudu on October 14, 2007, 06:43:22 AM: Level 9:

Shoot a portal in the ceiling directly above you. Shoot another one in the floor directly beneath you. You'll start cycling through the two at increasing speed. Once you've hit your top speed shoot a portal the same color as the one in the ceiling in the floor to the left of the big ledge you can't get past. You'll fly up through it and you'll be able to reach the platform.
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: Mashiro on October 14, 2007, 07:14:42 AM: It won't let me though.

the left wall is grayed out and I can't create portals on it

That's why I'm confused lol.
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: vudu on October 14, 2007, 07:21:18 AM: You don't need to create a portal on the wall. First one is on the ceiling above you. Second one is on the floor beneath the first one. As you're falling between the two create the third one (to replace the first one) on the ground to the right of the second one.
Title: RE:Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: Mashiro on October 14, 2007, 07:46:12 AM: Ohh haha thank you.

I don't know why I didn't think of that before.

Brain fart =)
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 14, 2007, 10:13:26 AM: Ahhhh!!! Level 35 is so frustrating. I get right to the end and the energy ball disappears. everytime.

how many levels are there?
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: vudu on October 14, 2007, 10:30:53 AM: 40 levels. Is level 35 the one with the five doors triggered by the five pressure sensitive switches? That one's pretty frustrating.
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 14, 2007, 10:35:15 AM: yes. yes it is.

Notice the warning sign posted in the level.
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 14, 2007, 11:00:15 AM: Has anyone here who played through Portal also played through Episode 2?

Aperture Science is the creator of Borealis! =O
Title: RE:Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on October 14, 2007, 11:18:41 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Has anyone here who played through Portal also played through Episode 2?

Aperture Science is the creator of Borealis! =O

Yeah, that was shocking. Also, some of the schematic textures in the game's .GCF files say the ship was transporting a GLaDOS!
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: UncleBob on October 14, 2007, 11:33:18 AM: I thought Level 35 was pretty easy...
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 14, 2007, 11:56:56 AM: I'm currently up to lvl 37, but I've only tried it about 3 times so far.
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: UncleBob on October 14, 2007, 01:07:51 PM: 37 is the level I'm on. I've tried it a ton of times and keep screwing up, although I know how to do it... so very close....
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 14, 2007, 01:28:46 PM: I got throught 37 after 2-3 more attempts, but now I'm not to sure what to do on lvl 38.
I look at it again later.

edit: Actually lvl 38 was pretty easy, I just realized that I can pick up and move objects, that amkes things a whole lot easier. onto lvl 39
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: decoyman on October 16, 2007, 03:18:55 AM: GRRRRR Can't beat 35. The sign doesn't lie. Where are you guys placing your portals??? Right now, it's close, but I don't see how it's possible to get the next doors open in time. It always bounces back and forth once while I'm sitting on the next button twiddling my thumbs.
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 16, 2007, 04:12:28 AM: Colors used to make sure ou know which portal to move and which one has to stay.

1.) place one portal(blue) above the right button up top
2.) place portal 2(yellow) on the wall next to the button in front of you.
3.) wait for a new energy bubble, to go past the first door, then go through the portal infront of you.
4.) quickly jump onto the upper button on the left.
5.) run and jump off the edge of the upper platform and over the wall that you had the (yellow)portal on.
6.) stand on the button and shoot a new portal(yellow) on the wall infront of you
7.) jump though the portal(yellow) infront of you and land on the upper button on the right (directly below the blue portal)
8.) Now shoot a portal straight across the room onto the wall next to the last button in the upper right corner of the room.
9.) Now also shoot a portal on the floor next to the button you are currently standing on.
Title: RE:Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 16, 2007, 04:20:53 AM: Everyone should play the real Portal...
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 16, 2007, 04:36:31 AM: But I don't have a video card yet, I'm not sure if my computer will run it.
Title: RE:Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on October 16, 2007, 08:53:07 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
But I don't have a video card yet, I'm not sure if my computer will run it.

Hmm, well that is a problem. What kind of onboard graphic chip do you have?
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 16, 2007, 04:40:23 PM: This is the motherboard, let me know what you think.
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: decoyman on October 17, 2007, 04:03:06 AM: Thanks for the tips, BnM, with those steps I came in and beat the crap out of it on the first try. I think my problem was less-than-optimal portal placement.

I then went on to beat the rest of the levels. Fun time! Bill, I watched that video, and now I'm seriously going to have to try to pick up the Orange Box. I have a MacBook Pro with a pretty decent video card, so rrunning it (w/ Parallels) shouldn't be a problem...
Title: RE:Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on October 17, 2007, 04:11:01 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
This is the motherboard, let me know what you think.

The good news is that with a 16x PCIe slot, you've got free reign to get a new video card if you want one. I don't know about the specific chipset your mobo has, but you'll see a major improvement even with a relatively cheap video card just for the faster dedicated memory. A last generation DirectX 9 capable card would be more than enough for the Orange Box.
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 17, 2007, 04:26:02 AM: maybe on my next paycheck, but I have been planning to get HL2 for quite some time now, but Portal and Team Fortress 2 are just extra icing on the cake.
Title: RE:Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on October 17, 2007, 08:27:33 AM: That motherboard has a built-in Intel graphics chip, which probably wouldn't run games very well.

However, as Partybear said, it's still a good motherboard and it's got a 16x PCI Express slot, so it should be easy to find a good video card for rather cheap.
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 17, 2007, 06:20:52 PM: if you have any suggestions I'm open.

I'm thinkin g the most bang for my buck (between $100-200)
Title: RE:Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on October 18, 2007, 12:13:04 PM: Hmm... I remember hearing that there was a Radeon x1950 Pro available somewhere for $120, but I haven't been able to find it. I'll keep looking. If you can find it, that would probably be the best bet.
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on October 18, 2007, 12:22:49 PM: Yeah, I'd say something in the X1950 family would be the best you could get in that price range, and it'll be good enough for pretty much any game currently out. I've been thinking of buying one myself as a stopgap so I can put off building a new computer until next year.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 18, 2007, 06:01:18 PM: Whats a good brand?

GeCube X1950 Pro 512MB?

Powercolor X1950 Pro 512MB?

Sapphire X1950 Pro 512MB?

or HIS X1950 Pro 512MB?
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on October 19, 2007, 04:55:07 AM: Well, all I can tell you is that I own cards made by Powercolor and Sapphire, and haven't had any problems. I don't know if any of them have a reputation, good or bad.
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Post by: ShyGuy on October 19, 2007, 06:23:29 AM: Sapphire is great quality for how inexpensive they are. We've sold a number of them here and I think only one ever got warrantied. Personally I'd go for a Nivdia Dx10 card right now just for the future compatibility.
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Post by: BigJim on October 19, 2007, 06:53:15 AM: Any one of them would be fine for that class of GPUs. The HIS seems to be the overall most aggressively clocked. Not bad for $170 after MIR. But if you want a single-slot card, the Sapphire has only a bit less juice than the HIS and is a bit cheaper.

Regarding DX10 support: You can also get an 8600 GTS with similar performance and DX10 compatibility at roughly the same price points here, which may be an overall better option.
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: decoyman on October 19, 2007, 08:52:42 AM: Picked up the orange box yesterday. Haven't played it yet, since I have to install Windows (gag! haha jk) first, but I can't wait. It's ringing up a bit cheaper at Target by the way. $45.99 instead of $49.99 (whoo, $4).

Can't wait to try the "real" Portal, and the rest of the package.
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Post by: Caliban on October 31, 2007, 12:21:13 PM: After 30 minutes of gameplay I'm quite expectant that the difficulty will not make my brain hurt, I'm having a blast.
Title: RE:Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: wandering on November 25, 2007, 06:08:15 PM: Just beat the (real) game, twice (once with commentary.) Still mourning the loss of my beloved companion cube

Great game, even without sound. (My computer doesn't have speakers currently.) (How did I play it with commentary? Closed captioning.)
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: wandering on November 25, 2007, 07:47:25 PM: Quote
THOSE THINGS ON HER LEGS KEEP THEM FROM BREAKING AFTER EACH FALL.

AH. I was wondering what those things were, and why she could slam into the floor at super high velocity without dying/breaking anything.
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Post by: Caliban on November 26, 2007, 07:25:23 AM: Prototype for the Portal exoskeleton. Not really. Close enough though
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Post by: Sister Mary LeFever on November 26, 2007, 09:16:04 AM: Apparently the mapping tools were updated to work with Orange Box games. I cannot wait to see what people can do with Portal.
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Post by: ThePerm on December 19, 2007, 12:43:30 PM: game was awesome, reminds me of zelda. Puzzle solving!!!

now we need a game with water mechanics, portal mechanics, gravity mechanics,wind mechanics, and weight mechanics
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Post by: Caliban on December 19, 2007, 05:04:31 PM: The advanced levels are quite challenging too. 3 more to go.
Oh, and so are those little challenges, i.e. passing the level in the least possible # of portals used, least steps taken.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 19, 2007, 06:23:37 PM: Man...all this talk about Team Fortress 2 and Portal is making me wish to buy TOB, but its so goddamn expensive around here and my computer is not up to date!
Title: RE: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: UERD on December 20, 2007, 05:59:17 AM: I finished the advanced levels, but some of the challenges are nearly impossible :P.
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Post by: vudu on December 20, 2007, 06:05:08 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: pap64
Man...all this talk about Team Fortress 2 and Portal is making me wish to buy TOB, but its so goddamn expensive around here and my computer is not up to date!
Why not play it on your shiny new Elite? Dual analog will never be as good as mouse & keyboard, but console Orange Box is better than no Orange Box at all.
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Post by: Caliban on December 20, 2007, 10:53:56 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: UERD
I finished the advanced levels, but some of the challenges are nearly impossible :P.

I'm stuck on the last advanced level *sigh* it's like they want me to do some super duper special awesome portal jump or something.

The challenges can be mind boggling like the least Portals used, or just plain awful annoying like the least number of steps taken.
Title: RE:Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 20, 2007, 04:25:35 PM: Quote
Originally posted by: vudu
Quote
Originally posted by: pap64
Man...all this talk about Team Fortress 2 and Portal is making me wish to buy TOB, but its so goddamn expensive around here and my computer is not up to date!
Why not play it on your shiny new Elite? Dual analog will never be as good as mouse & keyboard, but console Orange Box is better than no Orange Box at all.

I WAS talking about the 360 version!

Long story short PR is riddled with new taxes. So what would've been a solid 60 dollar game becomes a 70 dollar investment...
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Post by: vudu on December 21, 2007, 06:43:49 AM: It's still worth it at $70, especially if you've never played HL2.
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Post by: UERD on December 22, 2007, 02:35:14 AM: Portal alone is worth $70. It'll make your head explode.

Of course it's worth $70, it's not my money after all :P
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Post by: ThePerm on December 23, 2007, 01:53:13 PM: all i think about is portal now, it has the gta effect. After playing gta i just imagined myself stealing cars all the time, Now i imagine myself making portals everywhere and jumping through them. Front of my house, inside wal-mart dvd section. muwahahahaha
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Post by: vudu on August 30, 2008, 09:52:11 AM: Portal is now available for the low price of $9.99. (http://kotaku.com/5043686/if-you-somehow-missed-portal-get-it-now-get-it-cheap) So if you're like me, and not interested in the Orange Box, and too cheap to drop $20 on Portal alone, you no longer have a reason not to pick it up. I'll be doing so immediately after I get back from my trip next week.

EDIT: According to some dude in the comments section of Kotaku, this is only a weekend deal and the price will return to the normal $19.99 on Monday. So don't hesitate if you're interested.
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Post by: KDR_11k on August 31, 2008, 02:00:05 PM: What payment types does Steam accept, anyway?
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Post by: Schadenfreude on August 31, 2008, 04:48:17 PM: $10 is a steal; don't miss this chance. Portal is a wonderful game.
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Post by: Morari on August 31, 2008, 08:57:12 PM: Too bad it's only through Steam. The worst thing Valve has ever done was invent Steam... the program and service is junk to say the least.

The Orange Box would be great if it didn't already contain games I own. Individual hard copies of Portal, Team Fortress 2, and HL2: Episode 2 for $10 a pop would have been much better.
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Post by: vudu on August 31, 2008, 09:55:53 PM: Quote from: KDR_11k on August 31, 2008, 02:00:05 PM
What payment types does Steam accept, anyway?

All major credit cards and PayPal. Maybe a couple other types, but those for sure.
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: KDR_11k on September 01, 2008, 02:27:07 AM: PayPal would work but not for short term deals like that, takes a few days just to get the money "uploaded". Why didn't they make that a permanent price drop? Everyone says 20$ is too much for the game.
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: vudu on September 27, 2008, 02:44:13 PM: I just beat the main game (in a single sitting). Final play time according to Steam was 3.1 hours. I had a huge smile plastered to my face the entire time.

While it's definitely short, it's still worth $20. I haven't tried the challenges or the advanced maps yet and I already feel like I didn't pay enough for this game.
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on September 27, 2008, 03:03:49 PM: Quote from: vudu on September 27, 2008, 02:44:13 PM
I just beat the main game (in a single sitting). Final play time according to Steam was 3.1 hours. I had a huge smile plastered to my face the entire time.

While it's definitely short, it's still worth $20. I haven't tried the challenges or the advanced maps yet and I already feel like I didn't pay enough for this game.

Ya I met with the developers and we talked about the cake.

It literally wasn't anything pre-meditated. They had to change the story from the original Portal story because their school at the time owned the rights to the story. So they changed it to the experiment idea and then just didn't feel the story was "full" enough so after a long long time of emailing each other ideas they finally stopped with a cake. Story added :P
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 12, 2008, 02:13:30 PM: I finally started playing this again and beat it last night. For a game with no real "bad guys" it's pretty fucking epic. Hands down one of the best games I've ever played. They should really do a Wii port, especially since it's on XBLA now.
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Post by: Nick DiMola on October 13, 2008, 06:55:49 PM: Portal: Prelude (http://www.portalprelude.com/). Seems like an awesome mod, I'm going to check it out soon.
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: vudu on October 14, 2008, 01:41:07 PM: Quote from: Mr. Jack on October 13, 2008, 06:55:49 PM
Seems like an awesome mod, I'm going to check it out soon.

The key word here is seems. Unfortunately, it falls short. I can't get past level 2 or 3 (can't remember which, offhand). So far, the levels are built competently enough, but they're really not much fun because they seem to rely more on taking advantage of the shortcomings of the physics engine than actual problem solving.

It's free, so don't let me dissuade you from trying it out. However, I walked away disappointed. I'll go back sometime in the next couple weeks and try again.
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Post by: Nick DiMola on October 14, 2008, 01:56:09 PM: Damn, I'll have to give it a go tonight to see what you're talking about.
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Post by: Gylldas on October 15, 2008, 04:50:14 PM: I played Prelude and got through the first level. The thing that really annoyed me was how much talking there is and how every time you died you basically had to listen to the entire conversation again before you could do anything. Also, the voices are done with text to talk and they really sound awkward. Given that this was made unofficially though it is still pretty impressive.

When I have more free time I might give it another try.
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: vudu on October 15, 2008, 05:36:25 PM: Quote from: Gylldas on October 15, 2008, 04:50:14 PM
The thing that really annoyed me was how much talking there is and how every time you died you basically had to listen to the entire conversation again before you could do anything.

You're probably referring to the section immediately after you grabbed the portal gun. I agree--that part was annoying as hell. After I died about a half a dozen times (and listened to the damn 30 second conversation every time) I finally had the brilliant idea to save *after* the conversation instead of rely on the quick-save from immediately *before*. After attempting another half dozen times, I finally beat the damn level.

It was the level after that where I got stuck, so I guess I'm still on level 2. I feel shame.
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 24, 2010, 02:10:33 PM: Hey NWR, I just started playing Portal, the real game, for the 1st time and I think I'm stuck on level 18.

I've unlocked the sliding platform (who knew you'd have to trap yourself in that room to keep it open?) and the companion cube is up top, and the button is on the bottom. How do I get to the companion cube? It seems impossible?

Does anyone remember?

edit: Nevermind. I figured it out. small platform down below & off to the right
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: ThePerm on June 24, 2010, 03:07:06 PM: Speedy thing comes in speedy thing comes out!
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 24, 2010, 03:27:31 PM: Now I need help.

I'm on level 19. I passed this thing that shoots rockets at me, it has a purple eye.
I used the portals to get it to shoot out the glass in the next room, and then I used a chair and climbed through the air duct.
now I'm stuck in the fan with no where to go. Was I NOT supposed to go through that airduct?
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: broodwars on June 24, 2010, 03:32:08 PM: Quote from: BlackNMild2k1 on June 24, 2010, 03:27:31 PM
Now I need help.

I'm on level 19. I passed this thing that shoots rockets at me, it has a purple eye.
I used the portals to get it to shoot out the glass in the next room, and then I used a chair and climbed through the air duct.
now I'm stuck in the fan with no where to go. Was I NOT supposed to go through that airduct?

If you're in the room I think you're in, remember that you should still have that portal back in the room with the "thing that shoots rockets at you". Is there something perhaps could do with a rocket in this room? ;)

If that doesn't work, see if you can fire a portal between the blades of the fan at a wall beyond. Portal is a game all about re-thinking how you look at getting around obstacles.
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 24, 2010, 03:33:43 PM: I can't shoot a portal at the walls. I'm beyond that glass wall in the next room.

After that is a small corridor and an airvent that its too high to jump into unassisted.
I went back and grabbed a chair from teh rocket shooting room and used it to get up in the airvent.
now I'm stuck.
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: broodwars on June 24, 2010, 03:35:50 PM: Quote from: BlackNMild2k1 on June 24, 2010, 03:33:43 PM
I can't shoot a portal at the walls. I'm beyond that glass wall in the next room.

After that is a small corridor and an airvent that its too high to jump into unassisted.
I went back and grabbed a chair from teh rocket shooting room and used it to get up in the airvent.
now I'm stuck.

Walls aren't the only things you can attach portals to. Floors will work as well. Like I said, I think I remember the general area you're in. You either need to fire a portal between the fan blades or retrieve something from a previous room. I know you have to use the robot firing the rocket in several rooms using that same portal.
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 24, 2010, 04:19:14 PM: But I'm stuck in the fan, I can't get back our and I can't get to a portal even if I could get one past the fan blades.

(http://i48.tinypic.com/4jb514.jpg)

I'll just jump back a save and figure it out.

edit2: I just figured out where the duck button was. I got out of there(after I put a portal down below).
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 24, 2010, 05:21:03 PM: I beat the game YaaaaaaaY!!!

(http://i48.tinypic.com/357hglh.jpg)

(http://i45.tinypic.com/ie2jgx.jpg)
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: Spak-Spang on June 24, 2010, 11:09:56 PM: Portal 3DS please...
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: ThePerm on June 25, 2010, 12:22:30 AM: Quote from: Spak-Spang on June 24, 2010, 11:09:56 PM
Portal 3DS please...

if valve will make it..they are just lazy when it comes to consoles/handhelds. Consoles/portables = giant revenue stream
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 25, 2010, 01:04:10 AM: Did Portal 2 ever make an appearance at E3?
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: broodwars on June 25, 2010, 01:06:50 AM: Quote from: BlackNMild2k1 on June 25, 2010, 01:04:10 AM
Did Portal 2 ever make an appearance at E3?

Yes, even on PS3 (which, if you know anything about Valve, you know is an anomaly to say the least).
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 25, 2010, 01:13:30 AM: If Nintendo could manage a 2 button stylus, that would be perfect.

I don't know how, but Nintendo knows some ancient are of Japanese Magic, so I'm sure they'll figure it out.
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 25, 2010, 02:01:55 PM: I'm doing bonus map chamber 18. How the heck are you supposed to get past the second gap? There is only 1 place to shoot a portal.
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: broodwars on June 25, 2010, 02:06:01 PM: Quote from: BlackNMild2k1 on June 25, 2010, 02:01:55 PM
I'm doing bonus map chamber 18. How the heck are you supposed to get past the second gap? There is only 1 place to shoot a portal.

Sorry, couldn't tell you. I never tried the bonus maps. You might want to hit up GameFAQs on that.
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: vudu on June 25, 2010, 02:11:31 PM: Quote from: BlackNMild2k1 on June 25, 2010, 02:01:55 PM
I'm doing bonus map chamber 18. How the heck are you supposed to get past the second gap? There is only 1 place to shoot a portal.

You're asking very specific information about a game most of us beat a couple years ago.

Try this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCmXSVMOg8A)
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 25, 2010, 02:33:07 PM: Quote from: vudu on June 25, 2010, 02:11:31 PM
Quote from: BlackNMild2k1 on June 25, 2010, 02:01:55 PM
I'm doing bonus map chamber 18. How the heck are you supposed to get past the second gap? There is only 1 place to shoot a portal.

You're asking very specific information about a game most of us beat a couple years ago.

Try this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCmXSVMOg8A)

Thanks. I only watched the 1st 20 seconds, but that more than answered my question
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: Ymeegod on June 25, 2010, 02:56:34 PM: Never new why Gabe never ported HL2 Orange Box to the WII? In interviews he praises the WII and bashes the hell of the PS3 yet he still developes on that system. BTW: Source engine doesn't require alot, HL2 ran on the old XBOX and the WII is more powerful than that.
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: broodwars on June 25, 2010, 03:23:25 PM: Quote from: Ymeegod on June 25, 2010, 02:56:34 PM
Never new why Gabe never ported HL2 Orange Box to the WII? In interviews he praises the WII and bashes the hell of the PS3 yet he still developes on that system. BTW: Source engine doesn't require alot, HL2 ran on the old XBOX and the WII is more powerful than that.

The Wii probably couldn't run Portal. It's not that the graphics are a serious issue, but I'm not sure the Wii has the horsepower to run all the calculations that run the portals (how you can fire them nearly anywhere, how you can enter or only partially enter them, how you can often see yourself in them, how you can create an infinite loop of portals, how objects can be transferred between portals, how enemies can see and attack you through portals, etc.).
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 25, 2010, 03:28:40 PM: Quote from: broodwars on June 25, 2010, 03:23:25 PM
Quote from: Ymeegod on June 25, 2010, 02:56:34 PM
Never new why Gabe never ported HL2 Orange Box to the WII? In interviews he praises the WII and bashes the hell of the PS3 yet he still developes on that system. BTW: Source engine doesn't require alot, HL2 ran on the old XBOX and the WII is more powerful than that.

The Wii probably couldn't run Portal. It's not that the graphics are a serious issue, but I'm not sure the Wii has the horsepower to run all the calculations that run the portals (how you can fire them nearly anywhere, how you can enter or only partially enter them, how you can often see yourself in them, how you can create an infinite loop of portals, how objects can be transferred between portals, how enemies can see and attach you through portals, etc.).

I'm sure a lot it had to do with the Wii not having shader support. Maybe they can bring Orange Box to the 3DS instead.
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: DAaaMan64 on June 25, 2010, 06:43:08 PM: Quote from: broodwars on June 25, 2010, 03:23:25 PM
Quote from: Ymeegod on June 25, 2010, 02:56:34 PM
Never new why Gabe never ported HL2 Orange Box to the WII? In interviews he praises the WII and bashes the hell of the PS3 yet he still developes on that system. BTW: Source engine doesn't require alot, HL2 ran on the old XBOX and the WII is more powerful than that.

The Wii probably couldn't run Portal. It's not that the graphics are a serious issue, but I'm not sure the Wii has the horsepower to run all the calculations that run the portals (how you can fire them nearly anywhere, how you can enter or only partially enter them, how you can often see yourself in them, how you can create an infinite loop of portals, how objects can be transferred between portals, how enemies can see and attack you through portals, etc.).

None of those reasons you posted are likely the truth, infact those cases are probably trivial in comparison to how long it takes for their graphics to draw every frame.

Portal no coming to Wii is because the Source engine is a resources hungry monster, and because there is no shader support. Also, I'm sure that the marketability to the unique Wii audience is in question as well.
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: Dirk Temporo on June 25, 2010, 06:52:02 PM: Quote from: DAaaMan64 on June 25, 2010, 06:43:08 PM
the Source engine is a resources hungry monster

Um... No?
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: ThePerm on June 25, 2010, 08:09:31 PM: portal could be made on n64..the graphics aren't that special. I've dealt extensively with the source engine. In portal most of the levels are very very clinical looking, they don't vary much until you get to the gritty end, and then at that point they aren't much of a step away from resident evil 4. If i really wanted to be a dick I'd port a portal level to half-life.

The key is to port the game, not the graphics. The hardest thing to port would be the textures, but gamecube/wii can do phenomenal textures.
Also, **** metroid prime corruption looks better than portal. just throwing that out there.
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 27, 2010, 04:58:50 PM: Transmission Received...

how do you get that achievement?
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: DAaaMan64 on June 27, 2010, 05:14:12 PM: Quote from: Dirk Temporo on June 25, 2010, 06:52:02 PM
Quote from: DAaaMan64 on June 25, 2010, 06:43:08 PM
the Source engine is a resources hungry monster

Um... No?

Yeah I think it is, asked wayy to much of the CPU.
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: vudu on June 27, 2010, 05:20:11 PM: Quote from: BlackNMild2k1 on June 27, 2010, 04:58:50 PM
Transmission Received...

how do you get that achievement?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/934386-portal/faqs/59961
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 27, 2010, 05:30:00 PM: Quote from: vudu on June 27, 2010, 05:20:11 PM
Quote from: BlackNMild2k1 on June 27, 2010, 04:58:50 PM
Transmission Received...

how do you get that achievement?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/934386-portal/faqs/59961

So I have to collect those radios that are in some of the levels and take them back to the elevator....
These's achievements are actually getting me to play through a game more than once.
Helps that this is an actual good game though.
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: MoronSonOfBoron on June 27, 2010, 05:48:52 PM: Source is a six-year-old engine that predates the Wii by two years, and Valve has expertly worked it to be modular and scale up to evolving graphics technology on the PC, while allowing relatively low system requirements. The Wii's "last-gen" graphics are not the problem for Valve.

When it comes to bringing Valve games to the Wii, the big issue is probably the fact that Nintendo holds the tightest rein on online services. Just look at the horrible service that XBOX 360 users have to go through; I can't imagine what kind of hoops Valve would have to jump through to get updates delivered to Wii users, particularly with the nonexistent hard drive. Sony is willing to allow Valve to run third-party proprietary service off the PS3 (Portal 2 w/ Steamworks), rather than forcing Valve to wade through relatively draconian pricing schemes and online merchant limitations.
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 27, 2010, 08:49:05 PM: One more question about Portal Achievements, I've beaten the game twice now and still haven't gotten the Heartbreak Achievement, what did I do wrong?

edit: nevermind, I went back in and it's lit up now.
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: Dirk Temporo on June 28, 2010, 03:16:13 PM: Quote from: DAaaMan64 on June 27, 2010, 05:14:12 PM
Quote from: Dirk Temporo on June 25, 2010, 06:52:02 PM
Quote from: DAaaMan64 on June 25, 2010, 06:43:08 PM
the Source engine is a resources hungry monster

Um... No?

Yeah I think it is, asked wayy to much of the CPU.

I ran Half-Life 2 at max settings on a computer with a 2.0GHz Pentium 4, a 256MB Radeon X800GT, and a single gig of DDR1 RAM.

I would hardly call that "asking too much of the CPU" especially when my CPU was my major bottleneck at that point.
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: DAaaMan64 on June 28, 2010, 03:20:33 PM: It just seems like TF2 has high requirements for being such a graphically unimpressive shooter.
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: oohhboy on June 29, 2010, 03:28:35 AM: I think a lot of that extra requirements for Tf2 is really there to ensure everybody has a good online experience. By scaring off a lot of the marginal computers, everybody run better games.
Title: Re: Portal - The Cake is a Lie!
Post by: Morari on July 01, 2010, 04:20:15 PM: Quote from: DAaaMan64 on June 28, 2010, 03:20:33 PM
It just seems like TF2 has high requirements for being such a graphically unimpressive shooter.

Seems like you don't have a very good grasp of comparative system requirements.