Post by: KDR_11k on October 11, 2007, 02:16:21 AM
What needs to be fixed about RPGs is the combat, not the rest of the game. The combat in an RPG needs more strategy but the RPG still needs worlds to explore and such, otherwise the "roleplaying" done is just stat tweaking.
There's so much to combat that isn't modeled in regular console RPGs yet, things like position are completely ignored and I have yet to see cover being used in any way in an RPG. I don't mean adding some action elements to the combat, e.g. fighting game mechanics, I mean adding some actual tactics in there and having fights be more than a silly standoff with PCs and enemies slugging it out round for round. Really, why can't we have something like Fallout's combat system in a console RPG? Why can't we have a party that can move like a squad in an FPS and when combat starts you can move them around to optimize your position advantage? Kinda like turning the current area into an ad-hoc battlefield for SRPG gameplay and returning to regular RPGing after the battle is done?
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on October 11, 2007, 05:14:52 AM
I'd like to see it work like this. Instead of randomly running into invisible enemies, you get some kind of indication that enemies are near, and the scene switches from the abstracted overworld to a battlefield complete with obstacles and elevation changes based on the type of terrain. Everyone starts in the open, as if traveling by the easiest path, and depending on your and their scouting skills, one side may get extra turns before the other appears to move into ambush positions. This is part of the dream RPG I've been working on in my head for years, but I won't bore you with the rest.
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Post by: FoldMeTwice on October 12, 2007, 12:02:28 AM
really.. this game.. it took me months to beat it and never did it become a chore, secret items and towns hidden everywhere , the story taking unexpected turns .. which turned out to be caused by my own playing style.. characters, deep enough that you will care about them..and and.. and... so much more..
those were the days.. *sigh*
I would really appreciate more games of this kind
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on October 12, 2007, 10:03:14 AM
...But that's just my opinion. I can't stand FF-style RPGs where you don't have any choices.
Post by: FoldMeTwice on October 12, 2007, 08:41:29 PM
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Originally posted by: Sir_Stabbalot
Fallout is what every RPG should aspire to be.
...But that's just my opinion. I can't stand FF-style RPGs where you don't have any choices.
Agreed! (Though this has nothing to do with Strategy RPGs)
Post by: KDR_11k on October 12, 2007, 09:10:09 PM
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on October 13, 2007, 02:26:35 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
The description sounds like typical SRPG fare...
Which game? If you're saying that about Fallout, there's something wrong.
Post by: KDR_11k on October 13, 2007, 09:24:27 PM
