Post by: ThePerm on October 04, 2007, 12:49:59 PM
Link
Twilight Princess Link-default
Ocarina Link - secondary
Ocarina link - purple
Twilight princess link-blue armor
Twilight Princess link-red armor
possible lttp link Brown sleeves different face
Wario
Wario Ware- Default
Wario classic- secondary
plus some more costumes
Young link-if he even appears
Wind waker style-default
majora's mask style secondary
Wind Waker blue surfer
Solid Snake
Grey suit-default
camo suit w/ eye patch secondary (aka BIGBOSS)
Grey Ninja or Raiden as another costume
Big Boss Sean Connery Version
Liquid Snake
Zelda: zeldas a bit more complicated
Ocarina version zelda
ocarina version shiek
tp version zelda
tp style shiek
Ganondorf
Tp version default
WW version
oot version
ghost night version
samas
all different versions of the varia suit.
pokémon trainer
different pokemon trainers
Fox
Fox last smash bros
Fox ds
fox n64
Yoshi and kirby and pikachu
since none of these wear much in the way of clothes, im satisfied with a palette swap
Mario
Mario: Regular
Dr. Mario
Mario red overalls
Hawaian shirt and sunglasses mario
Ike
Ike could have Marth and roy skins
Donkey Kong
Dk-with Tie
Classic Dk no clothes
DK snes mario kart clothed
Peach
Daisy peach palette swap
Post by: Luigi Dude on October 04, 2007, 02:01:55 PM
Months ago I would have thought the idea of different costumes would never happen but after all these updates, it doesn't seem like it could be a dream anymore.
Post by: ThePerm on October 04, 2007, 03:38:56 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on October 04, 2007, 04:17:33 PM
Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 04, 2007, 07:15:21 PM
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Originally posted by: pap64
Not to be pessimistic but I doubt we will get alternate costumes in Brawl. I agree that it makes sense and is more creative than just color swaps but I don't think they'll be adding it to Brawl.
ya I don't know, I don't see nintendo doing that stuff very often.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 04, 2007, 08:16:06 PM
Post by: LuigiHann on October 04, 2007, 08:30:36 PM
Post by: Dasmos on October 05, 2007, 07:59:53 PM
QuoteThe Daisy costume? You mean the palette swap of Peach?
Originally posted by: LuigiHann
I hope they have alternate costumes. The Daisy outfit in Melee showed that they're at least technically capable of doing so, so I wouldn't be surprised if there are some.
Post by: Mikintosh on October 05, 2007, 09:16:50 PM
Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 06, 2007, 12:17:21 AM
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Originally posted by: Mikintosh
Yeah, I can forsee the palette swaps having more minor changes to them, a la Peach-Daisy. I don't think it's the hardest thing in the world to do alternate costumes, but it is programming work, and the kind that the team would probably only do if they had extra time before the release; Brawl, alas, seems to be coming down to the wire. Plus, with as many characters in the game as there'll probably be, there'd be, like 50 costumes. And they'd all have to be differentiated noticeably by color, lest we forget. Twilight and Ocarina Links won't look too different from far away, I'd wager.
As a programmer, I doubt it would take a whole lot of extra work. Unless they totally didn't approach it with that kind of functionality in mind. Even then it would only take some re working. However, I doubt it is a latter as that isn't good programming practice and it would be considered non-dynamic for sure.
OR
I could be full of crap
Post by: LuigiHann on October 06, 2007, 05:21:42 AM
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Originally posted by: DasmosQuoteThe Daisy costume? You mean the palette swap of Peach?
Originally posted by: LuigiHann
I hope they have alternate costumes. The Daisy outfit in Melee showed that they're at least technically capable of doing so, so I wouldn't be surprised if there are some.
Yes and no. I wouldn't expect anyone to notice who isn't a huge nerd (like I am), but Peach's Daisy outfit is slightly more than a palette swap, because it at least features alternate textures and slightly different details on the gloves and such. Also, one of Captain Falcon's color swaps has a different design on his back. So they can at least do that much.
Post by: mantidor on October 06, 2007, 07:50:25 AM
Light Suit would be so awesome
Post by: Crimm on October 06, 2007, 07:59:23 AM
Pokemon Trainer
- Red
- Green
- Gold
- Crystal
- Ruby
- Sapphire
- Diamond
- Pearl
Since they aren't named, just called "Pokemon Trainer" the change isn't really important. Super awesome would be the Pokemon pallet swapped to the appropriate starters for the game they're from.
Post by: ThePerm on October 07, 2007, 02:59:20 PM
In soul calibur every character has like 4 different costumes, and they're all more than just a palette swap. Some look radically different with extra armor. I suppose if namco can do it..then possibly Sakurai's team can do it.
THe question is if they Will, lets hope. Also, anyone who says its programming work is wrong...its not, its modeling work. They use high level tools to build character models in games, all the have to do is select the polygons and assign them to a "bone"
Post by: NWR_pap64 on October 07, 2007, 03:02:54 PM
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Originally posted by: ThePerm
as someones whos done either skinning, or model replacement, i would have to say that its not really that hard at all, outside the swithch between young link and cell young link most character models would be the same shape, and all you would have to do is assign the same "bones" to the model and viola, new costume.
In soul calibur every character has like 4 different costumes, and they're all more than just a palette swap. Some look radically different with extra armor. I suppose if namco can do it..then possibly Sakurai's team can do it.
THe question is if they Will, lets hope. Also, anyone who says its programming work is wrong...its not, its modeling work. They use high level tools to build character models in games, all the have to do is select the polygons and assign them to a "bone"
I'm not saying that its hard to do. I'm saying that its one of decisions that Nintendo has avoided for a while now. I agree that the idea makes sense, especially since all characters have had multiple costume changes in the last few years, but for some reason they are against it.
Post by: Adrock on October 07, 2007, 03:27:24 PM
Nintendo has accommodated Sakurai as much as possible. Everything that's known about Brawl's development points to Sakurai having almost complete free reign over this project so it's probably more up to him than it is Nintendo.
Post by: ThePerm on October 07, 2007, 03:37:40 PM
Post by: Luigi Dude on October 07, 2007, 03:40:43 PM
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Originally posted by: Adrock
I still think costumes are a possibility in Brawl due to the (supposed) larger, more talented development team and lack of time restraints. Sakurai has probably at least thought of including different costumes. Not only is it a painfully obvious addition, but he's dabbled with the idea in the previous games.
Exactly, the Pokemon in Melee prove that they are easily capable of doing it. Stuff like Pichu's goggles and Jigglypuffs headband show it's not hard for them to add something new to the character models. Now of course those were smaller things but with Brawl having a much longer development time it wouldn't be that hard for Sakurai and his team to do that on a larger scale with all the characters.
Post by: UERD on October 07, 2007, 07:00:32 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on October 08, 2007, 11:00:23 AM
You can see it here.
Post by: ThePerm on October 08, 2007, 12:14:02 PM
Bones Bowser
Puppet Zelda
Farmer Link
Oni Link
how about Shroud zelda, princess midna as an alternate
Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 08, 2007, 12:19:41 PM
Post by: Artisto16 on October 09, 2007, 03:23:38 AM
Post by: ThePerm on October 10, 2007, 06:46:56 AM
and also, in the first trailer, we can see that links old costume is there, hopefully it will be selectable.
Post by: ThePerm on October 11, 2007, 11:46:55 AM
http://wii.ign.com/articles/826/826602p1.html
Post by: NWR_pap64 on October 11, 2007, 04:26:15 PM
Post by: Caterkiller on October 12, 2007, 04:40:42 AM
Post by: vudu on October 12, 2007, 07:16:11 AM
QuoteIt says in the article that it is a costume swap. that's why the post was in the Costumes thread.
Originally posted by: pap64
Not really...It could be just a color swap. We won't know until we see a pic.
Post by: ThePerm on October 14, 2007, 08:05:44 AM
Post by: Ceric on October 14, 2007, 12:46:55 PM
Post by: ThePerm on October 14, 2007, 01:13:41 PM
lol remember when cubedcanuck said link needed a beard
http://theperm.tetrametrics.com/Images/Comedy/linkbeard.jpg
Post by: ThePerm on October 16, 2007, 07:22:52 AM
Post by: Dirk Temporo on October 17, 2007, 10:54:59 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 17, 2007, 01:18:29 PM
Post by: ThePerm on October 19, 2007, 06:54:12 AM
Also by then hopefully Nintendo owns Konami, Sewga, Capcom, Namco and the successor to wii only has to be twice as powerful as the xbox 360 to be 200-250 dollars
Post by: Tanookisuit on October 19, 2007, 06:57:03 AM
Mario - Fire Mario, Blue, brown/white, Wario, Green
Pikachu - Trainer Hat, Green Bandana, ?, Goggles
Ike - Marth Colors
Donkey Kong - Sasquatch, Red, Green, Blue, ?
Sonic - Blue shades (ring color changes), rumored black shade
Yoshi - Blue, Red, Yellow, Turquoise, Pink
Peach - All Red dress, Daisy, ?, ?
Samus - Phazon Suit, Fusion Suit, Off-gold, ?, (rumored: all melee colors)
Link - Dark, Red, Blue, Purple, Green, Gold
Fox - Wolf-a-like, green, ?, ?
Metaknight - Dark, green, red, yellow, (pink rumored)
Diddy - Purple, Dixie (no hair), ?, ?
Pit (rumored colors) - Red w/ white wings, black w/ black wings, blue w/ blue wings, green, ?
Bowser (shell)- Gold, black, brownish, white
Post by: couchmonkey on October 22, 2007, 08:47:05 AM
Post by: vudu on October 22, 2007, 08:50:24 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 22, 2007, 08:53:45 AM
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Post by: ThePerm on October 22, 2007, 09:31:58 AM
In Melee one thing they did was have classic Smash Bros stages from the original, its not unlikely then that maybe previous styles of characters might pop up.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 22, 2007, 10:25:04 AM
They can delay this game all they want. August 2008 would be best, to combat Halo 4: How Halo 2 Should've Been.
Post by: LuigiHann on October 22, 2007, 12:30:49 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Because of the mention of Daisy as a costume for Peach...Not exactly evidence of course, but the chances of her being a character are incredibly beyond-slim...
Mario still has a Wario costume. Just sayin'.
Also, I can't confirm this, but I read somewhere that while the Daisy outfit in Melee had alternate textures and subtle differences, the Daisy outfit in Brawl is purely a recolor.
Post by: Tanookisuit on October 23, 2007, 09:57:25 AM
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Mario still has a Wario costume. Just sayin'.
Also, I can't confirm this, but I read somewhere that while the Daisy outfit in Melee had alternate textures and subtle differences, the Daisy outfit in Brawl is purely a recolor.
Hopefully they'll take the time to make the Daisy model a little more than a palette swap. And I think they should get rid of the Wario colors for Mario and make that an alternate costume for Wario, for crap's sake.
Post by: Ceric on October 23, 2007, 10:26:48 AM
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Post by: stevey on February 03, 2008, 09:46:45 AM
, Toon Sheik, and Toon Zelda!link
Post by: ThePerm on February 03, 2008, 09:49:43 AM
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Post by: stevey on August 04, 2008, 12:30:35 AM
Post by: mantidor on August 04, 2008, 01:06:26 AM
bah now you made me wish for all variations of Samus suit that won't happen and will make me feel dissapointed.
Light Suit would be so awesome
HA! I knew it.
Still I was surprised they used the superior Prime models for the trophies. I'm still hoping there's a light suit one, with the dark suit being there I guess it's very likely.
Yes I haven't got all trophies, I don't care what you think of me as smash fan :P.
Post by: Caliban on August 04, 2008, 09:08:35 AM
What brawl could have been if Sakurai didn't ruin it.... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5uAq8Ys8G0)
That was cool, but how did they go about doing that?
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on August 04, 2008, 02:46:25 PM
Post by: Luigi Dude on August 04, 2008, 03:18:02 PM
That was cool, but how did they go about doing that?
They just hacked into the game. Here's their website which shows other changes they've done.
http://www.ghosteo.net/brawl/tex_hack/
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 04, 2008, 03:45:10 PM
Post by: Caliban on August 04, 2008, 03:54:16 PM
They just hacked into the game. Here's their website which shows other changes they've done.
http://www.ghosteo.net/brawl/tex_hack/
I see. Thanks luigi Dude.
Post by: ThePerm on August 14, 2008, 05:06:42 PM
