Post by: Bill Aurion on September 10, 2007, 02:50:44 PM
(I love how Famicom Detective, Advance Wars, Drill Dozer, and Golden Sun appear on Sakurai's List, as I'd take them as playable characters or Assist Trophies! =D)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List of Characters Sakurai Mentioned In His Blog
Koopa Troopa (Super Mario Bros. - 1985) - Adventure Mode Enemy
Hammer Bros. (Super Mario Bros. - 1985) - Assist Trophy & Adventure Mode Enemy
Toad (Super Mario Bros. 2 - 1988) - Peach's tool, yet again!
Petey Piranha (Super Mario Sunshine - 2002) - Adventure Mode Boss
Vivian (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door - 2005)
"Cel-Shaded" Link (The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - 2002) - Playable Character
Tetra (The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - 2002)
Link's Uncle (The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past - 1991)
Ganon/Ganondorf (The Legend of Zelda/The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - 1986/1998) - Playable Character
Bow Wow the Chain Chomp (The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening DX - 1998)
Ridley (Metroid - 1986) - Subspace Emissary Boss
Sylux (Metroid Prime: Hunters - 2006)
Noxus (Metroid Prime: Hunters - 2006)
Weavel (Metroid Prime: Hunters - 2006)
Peppy Hare (Star Fox - 1993)
Slippy Toad (Star Fox - 1993)
Krystal (Star Fox Adventures - 2002) - Trophy
Wolf O'Donnell (Star Fox 64 - 1997) - Playable Character
Diddy Kong (solo) (Donkey Kong Country - 1994) - Playable Character
Diddy Kong & Dixie Kong (Donkey Kong Country/Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy Kong's Quest - 1994/1995) - Trophy
King K. Rool (Donkey Kong Country - 1994)
Ninten (Mother - 1989)
Paula (Mother 2 [EarthBound in the U.S.] - 1994 [1995])
Jeff (Mother 2 [EarthBound in the U.S. - Assist Trophy
Poo (Mother 2 [EarthBound in the U.S.] - 1994 [1995])
Claus (Mother 3 - 2006)
Lucas (Mother 3 - 2006) - Playable Character
Princess Kumatora (Mother 3 - 2006)
King Dedede (Kirby's Dreamland - 1992) - Playable Character
Lololo & Lalala (Kirby's Dreamland - 1992)
Marx (Kirby Super Star - 1996)
Jeigan (Fire Emblem: Ankoku Ryuu to Hikari no Tsurugi - 1990)
Oguma (Fire Emblem: Ankoku Ryuu to Hikari no Tsurugi - 1990)
Nabarl (Fire Emblem: Ankoku Ryuu to Hikari no Tsurugi - 1990)
Sheeda (Fire Emblem: Ankoku Ryuu to Hikari no Tsurugi - 1990)
Maji (Fire Emblem: Ankoku Ryuu to Hikari no Tsurugi - 1990)
Saji (Fire Emblem: Ankoku Ryuu to Hikari no Tsurugi - 1990)
Sigurd (Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu - 1996)
Ike (Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - 2005) - Playable Character
Soren (Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - 2005)
Mia (Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - 2005)
The Black Knight (Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - 2005)
Gardevoir (Pokemon Ruby & Pokemon Sapphire - 2003) - Pokeball Pokemon
Steven Stone (Pokemon Ruby & Pokemon Sapphire - 2003) - Pokemon Trainer is close enough, right? =3
Black Shadow (F-Zero X - 1998)
Palutena (Kid Icarus - 1986) - Pit's Final Smash
Medusa (Kid Icarus - 1986)
Eggplant Wizard (Kid Icarus - 1986)
Isaac (Golden Sun - 2001) - Assist Trophy
Felix (Golden Sun - 2001)
Little Mac (Punch-Out!! Featuring Mr. Dream - 1990) - Assist Trophy
Dragon Chan (Super Punch-Out!! - 1994)
Banker (Mario Paint - 1992)
Ray 01 (Custom Robo - 2004) - Assist Trophy
Captain Olimar (Pikmin - 2001) - Playable Character
Human Main Character (Animal Forest - 2001) - Smashville stage backdrop
Tom Nook (Animal Forest - 2001) - Smashville stage backdrop & Trophy
Chibi-Robo (Chibi-Robo! - 2005) - Trophy
Harry the Robot (Teleroboxer - 1995)
Doctor Wright (SimCity - 1991) - Assist Trophy
Muddy (Mole Mania - 1996) - Assist Trophy
The Blue Virus (Dr. Mario - 1990)
Urban Fighters (Urban Champion - 1984)
Lip (Panel de Pon - 1995)
Furil (Nintendo Puzzle Collection: Panel de Pon - 2003)
Takamaru (Nazo no Murasamejou - 1986)
Demiru (Tomato Adventure - 2002)
Tomato Robot (Tomato Adventure - 2002)
Sukapon (Joy Mech Fight - 1993)
Donbe (Shin Oni ga Shima - 1987)
Ayumi Tachibana (Famicom Tantei Club Part II: Ushiro ni Tatsu Shoujo - 1989)*
Jill (Screw Breaker <Drill Dozer in the U.S.> - 2005 <2006>) - Assist Trophy
Ippongi Ryuta of Cheer Squad (Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan - 2005) - Trophy
Hero/Heroine (Magical Vacation - 2001)
Professor Kawashima (Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day - 2006)
Master Hand (Super Smash Bros. - 1999) - Boss
Crazy Hand (Super Smash Bros. Melee - 2001) - Boss
Golden Sun characters
Advance Wars infantrymen - Assist Trophies
Famicom Tantei Club characters
Third Party Suggestions From Sakurai's List
Mega Man (Capcom) (Mega Man - 1987)
G-Red (Capcom) (Gotcha Force - 2003)
Simon Belmont (Konami) (Castlevania - 1986)
Power Pro-Kun (Konami) (Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu '94 - 1994)
Lupus (Rare) (Jet Force Gemini - 1999)
Geno (Square Enix, Inc.) (Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars - 1996)
Mallow (Square Enix, Inc.) (Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars - 1996)
Sora (Disney/Square Enix, Inc.) (Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories - 2004)
Magnus Gallant (Quest/Nintendo) (Ogre Battle 64: Person of Lordly Caliber - 2000)
Princess Katia (From Software) (Lost Kingdoms - 2002)
Kalas (tri-Crescendo/Monolith Soft) (Baten Kaitos: Eternal Wings and the Lost Ocean - 2003)
Thomas the Kung-Fu Master (Irem) (Spartan X [Kung-Fu in the U.S.] - 1985)
Japanese Poll, Most Requested Characters in Japan
King Dedede(5)
Diddy Kong(4)
Geno(4)
Ike(4)
Ridley(4)
Captain Olimar & Pikmin(3)
Krystal(3)
Takamaru(3)
Windwaker Link(3)
Animal Crossing MC(2)
Claus(2)
Demiru(2)
Isaac(2) - Assist Trophy
Jeff(2) - Assist Trophy
Kawashima(2)
King K.Rool(2)
Lip(2)
Lucas(2)
Mega Man(2)
Oguma(2)
Ouendan(2)
Sukapon(2)
Post by: NWR_pap64 on September 10, 2007, 03:34:06 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 10, 2007, 03:35:23 PM
Post by: Arbok on September 10, 2007, 03:54:42 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 10, 2007, 04:06:49 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on September 10, 2007, 04:12:12 PM
Man, I hope at least half of Sakurai's list makes it to the final game as he definitely has been paying attention to what the fans want.
Post by: Arbok on September 10, 2007, 04:12:36 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Percentage...(I'd expect looooots of votes were tallied for a Smash Brothers poll...)
Ha ha, okay, that makes complete sense... don't know why I didn't figure that as a possibility when I saw it.
Post by: KDR_11k on September 10, 2007, 11:30:13 PM
Post by: Luigi Dude on September 11, 2007, 05:26:02 AM
Sakurai said character would be decided by worldwide popularity which is why Japanese fans shouldn't expect any Japan only (he said they would think about it though, so all you Lucas fans still have hope) characters, so if Ridleys popular worldwide, that makes him a very likely character now.
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 11, 2007, 06:11:30 AM
I voted several times suggesting Mega Man, Bomber Man, Olimar/Pikmin so really although it was a Japanese Poll, I bet the hardcore around the world voted for their favorite characters.
Post by: Louieturkey on September 11, 2007, 07:39:39 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 11, 2007, 11:40:43 AM
Interesting notes: First, that Golden Sun really is considered a Nintendo property...With Isaac being mentioned in his list and being a popular character choice, I'm hoping this will give him a character spot...(And music!)
Also, Geno looks like a really good candidate for Squenix's character...
Post by: Sessha on September 11, 2007, 11:56:13 AM
Post by: Mashiro on September 11, 2007, 12:00:38 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Updated the opening post because I forgot to include the 3rd party characters that were mentioned in Sakurai's blog...
Interesting notes: First, that Golden Sun really is considered a Nintendo property...With Isaac being mentioned in his list and being a popular character choice, I'm hoping this will give him a character spot...(And music!)
Also, Geno looks like a really good candidate for Squenix's character...
I would cry tears of absolute joy if both made it into the game!
Post by: UERD on September 11, 2007, 12:01:08 PM
Post by: Sessha on September 11, 2007, 12:05:11 PM
I FEEEL HAPPPPPYYYYY BUT IT HURTS
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 11, 2007, 12:23:47 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: Sessha
It would be nice to see Mother 2 and 3 characters in Brawl. They do have a common enemy and I would like Earthbound represented by more then one character.
I haven't played Mother 3 yet, so are Lucas' and Ness' move sets similar? And by Ness' move set I obviously mean Paula's... =3
Post by: Arbok on September 11, 2007, 12:58:41 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
I voted several times suggesting Mega Man, Bomber Man, Olimar/Pikmin so really although it was a Japanese Poll, I bet the hardcore around the world voted for their favorite characters.
Yep, I voted in the poll as well, with my choices being Ridley and Sturm.
Post by: Darkheart on September 11, 2007, 01:03:22 PM
Before people start flaming me about a game that only was on the Gba
there has been big hints that a spin off game in the series is coming to the Ds and the Wii and will be revealed at TGS this year.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on September 11, 2007, 01:42:27 PM
In all seriousness I'm surprised he didn't make it to Sakurai's third party list. Maybe the choice was so obvious to him that he didn't need to put it on the list.
It would be cool of Sora makes it but Square needs someone better to represent the whole company.
Post by: Sessha on September 11, 2007, 03:14:04 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: Bill AurionQuote
Originally posted by: Sessha
It would be nice to see Mother 2 and 3 characters in Brawl. They do have a common enemy and I would like Earthbound represented by more then one character.
I haven't played Mother 3 yet, so are Lucas' and Ness' move sets similar? And by Ness' move set I obviously mean Paula's... =3
Lucas has enough of his own original moves that he would play differently then Ness. They do have one move in common, PSI Rocking and PSI Love are basically the same. I hope in Brawl Ness gets some different moves so it reflects more on his actual skills. He could chuck his sound stone at someone's temple
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 11, 2007, 03:22:17 PM
That'd be rad...Then they could put Paula in! =D
Post by: Caterkiller on September 11, 2007, 07:49:21 PM
Post by: IceCold on September 11, 2007, 08:15:52 PM
Post by: Terranigma Freak on September 12, 2007, 01:35:41 AM
Quote
Jeigan (Fire Emblem: Ankoku Ryuu to Hikari no Tsurugi - 1990)
Oguma (Fire Emblem: Ankoku Ryuu to Hikari no Tsurugi - 1990)
Nabarl (Fire Emblem: Ankoku Ryuu to Hikari no Tsurugi - 1990)
Sheeda (Fire Emblem: Ankoku Ryuu to Hikari no Tsurugi - 1990)
Maji (Fire Emblem: Ankoku Ryuu to Hikari no Tsurugi - 1990)
Saji (Fire Emblem: Ankoku Ryuu to Hikari no Tsurugi - 1990)
Sigurd (Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu - 1996)
Ike (Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - 2005) - Playable Character
Soren (Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - 2005)
Mia (Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - 2005)
The Black Knight (Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - 2005)
WTF man, WTF? Maji and Saji are two of the most hated characters in the first game! You you left out Oguma from that list. Nabarl and Oguma are two of the most powerful characters in the game.
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 12, 2007, 04:04:31 AM
(But still won't be chosen... =3)
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 30, 2007, 09:48:44 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on October 01, 2007, 08:06:48 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on October 01, 2007, 08:29:54 AM
However, if I could play as the EBA, I'd probably have a new main and it would be based on how much I love the characters instead of picking a bottom tier character for the sake of being good with a crap character.
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 01, 2007, 08:32:44 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on October 01, 2007, 08:38:30 AM
I love EBA/Ouendan. The premise was just too awesome and the characters dancing to the beat was excellent (also, the way Ouendan would all hug in the end of the last level if they failed was absolutely classic). I like Bowser the most out of the current selection, but only because he's a more unique character in the sense that he's both a hero and a villain and neither of his roles have ever been black and white.
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 01, 2007, 08:43:08 AM
Post by: Crimm on October 01, 2007, 08:48:09 AM
Think about it: Every game Sonic has been in, in 3D, terrible. It's like the Madden Curse.
Anyway, Sonic is about going fast. If you go fast in Smash Bros? Off the cliff.
His attacks are...him going non-stop in a ball of death. He would go right off the side. The other is a jump spin.
That's it.
Quite a lame character.
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 01, 2007, 08:51:26 AM
Quote
Originally posted by: Crimm
I say now what I've said for a while: Sonic would be terrible.
Think about it: Every game Sonic has been in, in 3D, terrible. It's like the Madden Curse.
Anyway, Sonic is about going fast. If you go fast in Smash Bros? Off the cliff.
His attacks are...him going non-stop in a ball of death. He would go right off the side. The other is a jump spin.
That's it.
Quite a lame character.
I actually agree with Crimm here, however if it was a Sonic + Tails combo, I could see the character being quite a bit more interesting.
Post by: Smash_Brother on October 01, 2007, 08:54:35 AM
Quote
Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
What kind of Nintendo fan are you to not love any of their characters but the Ouendan guys?
Most Nintendo games focus little on the characters but more on the gameplay. As such, the characters tend to behave more as cyphers than they do as "characters" so I find its difficult to really feel for them because I'm, in effect, feeling for myself.
Snake is a notable exception, since he has a great deal of dialogue and character development which I personally liked in Twin Snakes.
This is why I wanted Resetti to be playable so badly: I loved his character because he was just bursting with character.
As for EBA, I love them because the concept is simply too awesome not to love: three guys/girls show up out of nowhere to help motivate people to greatness when they need it most. There are so many inferred messages in the concept that I could write a thesis on it.
Post by: Crimm on October 01, 2007, 08:57:39 AM
If you get them they cheer in the background, the music changes to something with a pulse, and your character's face controts into a determined glare. You then become nearly invincible and do a ton of damage per hit you land.
Post by: Smash_Brother on October 01, 2007, 08:58:32 AM
Quote
Originally posted by: Crimm
I say now what I've said for a while: Sonic would be terrible.
Think about it: Every game Sonic has been in, in 3D, terrible. It's like the Madden Curse.
Anyway, Sonic is about going fast. If you go fast in Smash Bros? Off the cliff.
His attacks are...him going non-stop in a ball of death. He would go right off the side. The other is a jump spin.
That's it.
Quite a lame character.
Pff, his moveset will be fine.
If they can invent a moveset for Fox, Falcon and Mr. Friggin' Game and Watch, they'll be able to do so for Sonic.
Besides, both Yoshi and Jiggs had moves in Melee which showed us just how a spin dash attack would function.
I liked both Sonic Adventures, though the game was always at its best when speed was its focus and not platforming.
Quote
Originally posted by: Crimm
I don't think I mentioned it here, but I have said it before: EBA/Ouendan need to be assist trophies.
If you get them they cheer in the background, the music changes to something with a pulse, and your character's face controts into a determined glare. You then become nearly invincible and do a ton of damage per hit you land.
I expect something right along these lines, personally, but I'd still love to see them playable.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on October 01, 2007, 09:00:30 AM
Quote
Originally posted by: Crimm
I say now what I've said for a while: Sonic would be terrible.
Think about it: Every game Sonic has been in, in 3D, terrible. It's like the Madden Curse.
Anyway, Sonic is about going fast. If you go fast in Smash Bros? Off the cliff.
His attacks are...him going non-stop in a ball of death. He would go right off the side. The other is a jump spin.
That's it.
Quite a lame character.
Actually, I think you are mistaken.
First of all, the character of Sonic would be handled by Sakurai and his team, NOT Sonic team. Sonic team could point out things about the character but they wouldn't be involved in the creation of the character. So to assume that Sonic will suck because of the company he's from is foolish.
Number 2, I expect Sonic to be a fast character, but not CRAZY fast. Like you said, a character like that wouldn't play well in Brawl. I expect Sonic to be just slightly faster than Sheik and Falcon. I only expect his extreme speed in his final smash.
If Sega slowed him down in the Olympics game then I expect Sakurai to do the same. Remember, if the game is slower then can't make crazy fast characters like before.
As for the Ouendan/EBA I still see Nintendo dropping the ball with them, but they are on Japan's most requested list and even got the same percentage as Lucas (who became a character) meaning that the hope of them being playable is small. It would be idiotic of them to get people's hopes up by saying they were one of the most requested characters only to screw them and turn them into just quick assist trophies.
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 01, 2007, 09:03:41 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on October 01, 2007, 09:08:24 AM
Also, the LAST reason I'd like to see Ouendan/EBA is because they effin' deserve it.
INIS made an awesome franchise and despite three games being made now, the franchise is still largely ignored with pretty disappointing sales.
The inclusion of EBA/Ouendan as playable characters would basically force people to pay more attention to them, and something tells me that Nintendo is WELL aware of Lucas' presence aiding potential sales of Mother 3, both overseas and at home.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on October 01, 2007, 09:57:28 AM
Quote
Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
But there's no way that every character on the list is going to be playable in the first place... =)
If you are talking about all the lists then yeah, there's no way that all of these characters will make it to the game.
The poll list, however, is different because it narrows the list to a handful and focuses on what the fans want, so I expect it to take priority over Sakurai's personal list.
At the very least I see the high ranking characters being in the game.
Post by: Smash_Brother on October 01, 2007, 10:03:39 AM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on October 01, 2007, 11:34:52 AM
Quote
Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
I also expect characters of Sakurai's choice to show up.
You know what would be funny? If Sakurai works hard on trying to make a character playable only to tell him that they can't do anything with the character and turn him or her into an assist trophy... XD
Sakurai: Man, I really wanted that character in the game!
Us: Not so fond of it now, huh?
Post by: Arbok on October 01, 2007, 11:44:50 AM
Quote
Originally posted by: pap64
You know what would be funny? If Sakurai works hard on trying to make a character playable only to tell him that they can't do anything with the character and turn him or her into an assist trophy... XD
Sakurai: Man, I really wanted that character in the game!
Us: Not so fond of it now, huh?
Assist trophies: making fanboys cry since 2007 with the realization that not every character can (or should) be playable...
Post by: Arbok on October 01, 2007, 01:38:14 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Percentage...(I'd expect looooots of votes were tallied for a Smash Brothers poll...)
I feel so lied to...
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 01, 2007, 01:43:17 PM
Post by: Crimm on October 01, 2007, 01:50:29 PM
Post by: Crimm on October 01, 2007, 01:51:11 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on October 11, 2007, 10:15:44 AM
Its time for Bill to update the thread. Jill from Drill Dozer, the Advance Wars infantry men and the Metroid have been confirmed to be assist trophies.
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 11, 2007, 10:40:30 AM
Post by: Sarail on October 11, 2007, 07:48:25 PM
Oh well.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on October 13, 2007, 04:31:19 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on October 13, 2007, 04:31:28 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 13, 2007, 04:36:30 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 18, 2007, 03:51:59 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 24, 2007, 08:21:39 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on October 25, 2007, 01:31:59 AM
Quote
Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Updated with King Dedede, which makes three most-requested characters in Japan playable!
Indeed! Even if they were obvious choices the fact that Sakurai is considering characters from the most requested poll is great, which bodes well for Isaac, Ouendan, Geno and Capt. Olimar.
Post by: Nick DiMola on November 08, 2007, 06:15:57 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on November 08, 2007, 08:48:02 AM
It's amazing to think that Ouendan has a decent chance of being playable, since Lucas tied them for votes...
I still expect them as an AT, though.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on November 08, 2007, 11:31:03 AM
If they use clones once again to expand the roster I'll be EXTREMELY pissed off...
Oh and Mr. Jack I expect Chibi-Robo being an AT. Like Ouendan Chibi is a character built around the concept of helping others. I see Chibi appearing and either helping you or attacking the other Brawlers. And he gets happy points at the end!
Post by: Adrock on November 08, 2007, 05:10:45 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 08, 2008, 06:13:00 PM
I wonder if all characters will be included...
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 08, 2008, 06:18:36 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 08, 2008, 06:32:44 PM
"Since Kawashima is on the list could he be the character that represents the DS universe?"
Think about it. Brain age is a VERY popular franchise in Japan and around the world. Sakurai might be just crazy enough to ask Kawashima himself if he could borrow his game likeness and turn it into a character.
Stupid, I know, but if Sakurai is following the list closely we might see Kawashima after all! O.O
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 08, 2008, 06:36:10 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: pap64
Time to check Capt. Olimar off the Most request character list!
I wonder if all characters will be included...
I don't see how they could unless they took the easy way out and made clones of everyone. Though I could (Hopefully) be wrong.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 08, 2008, 06:40:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenixQuote
Originally posted by: pap64
Time to check Capt. Olimar off the Most request character list!
I wonder if all characters will be included...
I don't see how they could unless they took the easy way out and made clones of everyone. Though I could (Hopefully) be wrong.
I expect at least the top ten or five characters becoming Brawlers.
While I do agree that not ALL the characters in the list will make it you have to remember, not only is this Sakurai's "last" SSB game the team is going all out with the game's modes and features, so they could make all those characters playable without taking the easy way out.
Post by: LuigiHann on January 16, 2008, 11:48:17 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 16, 2008, 11:52:45 AM
Pretty much, yep...I'll go ahead and update the list with the new material...
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 16, 2008, 12:02:47 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: LuigiHann
Can anyone explain to me the context of the entries in "Sakurai's List"? Is those just characters which he mentioned in passing? I'm most curious about how Ippongi Ryuta from Ouendan and Link's Uncle were mentioned. Also, a couple of new trophies and assist trophies have been confirmed since the last time the list was updated (including Ouendan yay).
I wouldn't count trophies since we don't know if they are playable, ATs or just collectibles.
Also, do you have a thing against Ouendan?
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 16, 2008, 12:04:49 PM
And I'll be highlighting anything that is on the list except stickers...If any trophies end up becoming ATs, I'll just edit it again!
Post by: LuigiHann on January 16, 2008, 12:09:43 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: pap64Quote
Originally posted by: LuigiHann
Can anyone explain to me the context of the entries in "Sakurai's List"? Is those just characters which he mentioned in passing? I'm most curious about how Ippongi Ryuta from Ouendan and Link's Uncle were mentioned. Also, a couple of new trophies and assist trophies have been confirmed since the last time the list was updated (including Ouendan yay).
I wouldn't count trophies since we don't know if they are playable, ATs or just collectibles.
Also, do you have a thing against Ouendan?
No, I love Ouendan. And EBA. And EBA vs. Ouendan. I'd actually rather have playable Agents than Ouendan (dance moves would make awesome attack moves), but in any case I'm just happy to see the franchise acknowledged as part of Nintendo's canon.
Post by: Smash_Brother on January 16, 2008, 12:22:22 PM
Anything less than an AT and I'll be seriously pissed.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 16, 2008, 12:32:02 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: LuigiHannQuote
Originally posted by: pap64Quote
Originally posted by: LuigiHann
Can anyone explain to me the context of the entries in "Sakurai's List"? Is those just characters which he mentioned in passing? I'm most curious about how Ippongi Ryuta from Ouendan and Link's Uncle were mentioned. Also, a couple of new trophies and assist trophies have been confirmed since the last time the list was updated (including Ouendan yay).
I wouldn't count trophies since we don't know if they are playable, ATs or just collectibles.
Also, do you have a thing against Ouendan?
No, I love Ouendan. And EBA. And EBA vs. Ouendan. I'd actually rather have playable Agents than Ouendan (dance moves would make awesome attack moves), but in any case I'm just happy to see the franchise acknowledged as part of Nintendo's canon.
Ah I see. My bad, then.
I agree, though. Even if they aren't playable or at the very least ATs its great that Sakurai acknowledge Ouendan.
EDIT: S_B, it looks as if every single trophy in Brawl will also be an AT, so Ouendan will likely also be an AT.
Post by: Smash_Brother on January 16, 2008, 12:42:05 PM
Where did you hear that?
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 16, 2008, 12:51:53 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
EVERY trophy is an AT?
Where did you hear that?
I only said it LOOKS like every trophy will also be an AT.
Post by: LuigiHann on January 16, 2008, 12:54:50 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 18, 2008, 09:57:56 PM
Supposedly, people saw a weird rabbit AT. Some claim it was Demiru, the rabbit from Tomato Adventure. He appears on both lists, with two votes on the request list.
If this is true that means that just because the character is requested it doesn't mean Sakurai will consider him or her as a playable character. So, even characters like Megaman and Geno might not have a chance
.
Post by: Luigi Dude on January 18, 2008, 11:53:12 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: pap64
The latest Brawl impressions from the Hobby may kill the credibility of the most requested list.
Supposedly, people saw a weird rabbit AT. Some claim it was Demiru, the rabbit from Tomato Adventure. He appears on both lists, with two votes on the request list.
If this is true that means that just because the character is requested it doesn't mean Sakurai will consider him or her as a playable character. So, even characters like Megaman and Geno might not have a chance
Not exactly, only the characters with three or more votes ever stood a real chance since they were clearly the most popular one. Plus you have to remember Tomato Adventure sold pretty poorly in Japan so only the truly hardcore Nintendo fans over there knew who he was. In other words, Demiru never stood a chance of being playable since he's Japan only and most gamers in Japan have no idea who he is either.
Out of all the characters with two votes the only ones that stand any real chance of being playable are Animal Crossing MC, Claus, King K.Rool, Isaac, and Megaman.
Post by: LuigiHann on January 19, 2008, 01:42:48 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on January 19, 2008, 05:06:56 AM
Quote
Originally posted by: pap64
Supposedly, people saw a weird rabbit AT. Some claim it was Demiru, the rabbit from Tomato Adventure. He appears on both lists, with two votes on the request list.
...or it could be the space rabbit from SMG.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 19, 2008, 09:39:46 AM
Quote
Originally posted by: Smash_BrotherQuote
Originally posted by: pap64
Supposedly, people saw a weird rabbit AT. Some claim it was Demiru, the rabbit from Tomato Adventure. He appears on both lists, with two votes on the request list.
...or it could be the space rabbit from SMG.
It could be, but what would he do? Jump around creating a "Goldeen" effect?
Post by: Smash_Brother on January 19, 2008, 10:07:48 AM
Like items or you heal for 30% or something.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 27, 2008, 07:53:05 PM
Jeff from Earthbound has been confirmed as an AT on the Iwata interview.
Jeff was also on the most requested list with 2 votes. This means that even popular characters can be turned into ATs if they are not good enough.
So, good-bye Kawashima, Ouendan, Takamaru, Megaman, Demiru and any of the other characters that got 2 votes.
Post by: Smoke39 on January 28, 2008, 06:27:02 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 28, 2008, 06:51:05 AM
Quote
Originally posted by: pap64
Time to update, Bill!
Jeff from Earthbound has been confirmed as an AT on the Iwata interview.
Jeff was also on the most requested list with 2 votes. This means that even popular characters can be turned into ATs if they are not good enough.
So, good-bye Kawashima, Ouendan, Takamaru, Megaman, Demiru and any of the other characters that got 2 votes.
Wait how does that mean those characters won't be in it? I think Sakurai includes whoever he wants with that list as nothing more than guidance. Sakurai has shown in the past he doesn't really care who fans really want in the game, but kind of goes his own way.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 28, 2008, 08:12:13 AM
Quote
Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenixQuote
Originally posted by: pap64
Time to update, Bill!
Jeff from Earthbound has been confirmed as an AT on the Iwata interview.
Jeff was also on the most requested list with 2 votes. This means that even popular characters can be turned into ATs if they are not good enough.
So, good-bye Kawashima, Ouendan, Takamaru, Megaman, Demiru and any of the other characters that got 2 votes.
Wait how does that mean those characters won't be in it? I think Sakurai includes whoever he wants with that list as nothing more than guidance. Sakurai has shown in the past he doesn't really care who fans really want in the game, but kind of goes his own way.
Well, that might have been true in the past, but we did get Sonic, which was arguably the most requested character in the whole game. And some of the characters in the most requested list did make it in.
I say we give the list more credit if Megaman or Geno make it in.
