Post by: Jonnyboy117 on September 10, 2007, 12:26:05 PM
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=14364
NINTENDO'S NEW WII ZAPPER TARGETS FUN
First Wii Game-Play Accessory Comes Packaged with Zelda Software
REDMOND, Wash., Sept. 10, 2007 - Nintendo announced today that the Wii Zapper™ interface for the hit Wii™ home video game system will come packed with Link's Crossbow Training™. The software is based on the hugely popular Legend of Zelda® series and provides a perfect demonstration of the way the Wii Zapper could be used in other games. The Wii Zapper casing houses both the motion-sensitive Wii Remote™ and Nunchuk™ controllers in a single unit for precision targeting. It goes on sale Nov. 19 at an MSRP of just $19.99.
"The Wii Zapper combines our remarkable controllers into one housing with a classic style reminiscent of arcade-style games," says George Harrison, Nintendo of America's senior vice president of marketing and corporate communications. "Both veteran and first-time players will find it brings a whole new dimension to games where targeting is key and provides even more exciting game-play experiences."
Link's Crossbow Training drops players into a world in the style of The Legend of Zelda®: Twilight Princess. Players assume the identity of hero Link, who progresses through a series of tests to perfect his crossbow marksmanship. Start with stationary bull's-eyes and graduate to moving targets before defending Link against all kinds of enemies.
Third-party publishers have lined up to support the Wii Zapper. EA's Medal of Honor Heroes™ 2 lets players take World War II into their hands with the Wii Zapper. The game features an all-new Wii-exclusive Arcade Mode that offers accessibility to gamers of all skill levels, a full single-player campaign and support for up to 32 players in multiplayer. Capcom's Resident Evil®: The Umbrella Chronicles reveals the back story behind the fall of the Umbrella Corporation by exploring locations from Resident Evil 0, 1, 2 and 3, as well as new never-before-seen locations like Umbrella's stronghold. One or two players use the Wii Zapper to take aim against a horde of zombies in first-person perspective. SEGA's Ghost Squad™ lets players replicate the arcade light-gun experience at home with the Wii Zapper.
Post by: UncleBob on September 10, 2007, 12:50:06 PM
wha...?
Post by: StrikerObi on September 10, 2007, 12:51:16 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 10, 2007, 01:09:09 PM
"Umm... the fake gun is packed with a game about shooting arrows with a crossbow?"
You hold the Zapper the same way you'd hold a crossbow... =)
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on September 10, 2007, 01:09:30 PM
Post by: Mashiro on September 10, 2007, 01:13:43 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 10, 2007, 01:17:23 PM
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Originally posted by: Lord_die_seis
I wonder if this is the big surprise, atleast Nintendo isn't dumb enough to sell a controller attachment at just 20 dollars itself. Maybe the crossbow training may prove to be amusing.
The September surprise is supposed to be WiiConnect24-oriented...
Post by: Luigi Dude on September 10, 2007, 01:21:48 PM
With Links Lightgun Adventure, Nintendo knows it'll get a lot more people interested in the thing, thus resulting in possible higher sales. Meaning with the Zapper selling better, it'll allow for more Lightgun games to be made for the Wii. Which also means Nintendo might make a new full fledge Duck Hunt or Battle Clash in the future since they'd actually have a chance of selling.
Post by: stevey on September 10, 2007, 02:16:32 PM
D@mn it, I was going to skip the zapper, but Zelda fanboy in me make me buy everything with the word Zelda on
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 10, 2007, 02:23:28 PM
Post by: nickmitch on September 10, 2007, 02:32:53 PM
Post by: Adrock on September 10, 2007, 02:43:58 PM
I'll pass on this package though I'll probably pick up Link's Crossbow training used eventually, just to have. I'm supposed to get the Zapper for free as a reserve gift for Umbrella Chronicles anyway and that game, unlike Link's Crossbow Training, has high levels of Jill Valentine.
On a side note, Nintendo really should consider making all these mini-game titles online enabled. They make these games in a matter of months, if that. They're cheap, but online multiplayer would instantly make them that much more enticing to buy. I almost never pass up anything Zelda related and I just can't justify paying $20 for a piece of plastic and a single player mini-game.
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 10, 2007, 02:44:12 PM
If the pack-in game had been Duck Hunt this would be instant buy for me; this bumps it down quite a bit, but I'm still probably going to get it at some point. Hopefully they'll release Duck Hunt in some form on the VC or WiiWare.
Post by: Maximilian on September 10, 2007, 02:56:17 PM
I'm a bit surprised at a Zelda light gun game but by no means bummed. I was planning on getting the Zapper for games like RE: Umbrella Chronicles and Ghost Squad because I really love gun games. Sure, I really don't need the zapper to enjoy them but at $20 plus a game, I was planning to get it whatever the game was. Who knows? The Zelda zapper game could turn out to be really cool.
I agree Wii Play's shooting game was just a Duck Hunt tease though. I know Nintendo is aware of the Duck Hunt love and with the Zapper coming, I expect it's just a matter of time before they do revisit that franchise in full.
Post by: matt oz on September 10, 2007, 04:43:59 PM
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 10, 2007, 04:54:27 PM
Post by: Kairon on September 10, 2007, 05:05:54 PM
Also... they need to make a fire-fighting game out of this Zapper.
Post by: TrueNerd on September 10, 2007, 05:08:25 PM
Post by: Kairon on September 10, 2007, 05:18:24 PM
Post by: Tanookisuit on September 10, 2007, 05:47:39 PM
Post by: Dozy Boy on September 10, 2007, 06:37:55 PM
Not that the game disk sounds that intriguing anyway.
Post by: UncleBob on September 10, 2007, 07:05:31 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on September 10, 2007, 07:51:14 PM
You can only shoot five or so before they swarm and kill you.
Post by: Louieturkey on September 10, 2007, 08:06:19 PM
Post by: Shift Key on September 10, 2007, 08:14:52 PM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
Horrible products.
BAM
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on September 10, 2007, 08:15:06 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 10, 2007, 08:38:33 PM
Japan doesn't care for Mature Link yet they insist on non-gaming an entire franchise with a game excursion that should've been inside an existing adventure.
PHAIL ZAPPER
Post by: ShyGuy on September 10, 2007, 08:48:34 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on September 10, 2007, 11:57:48 PM
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on September 11, 2007, 02:38:17 AM
Anyway, I wonder if NST is behind this game. Recycling game assets and genre manipulation seem to be its hobbies.
Post by: planetidiot on September 11, 2007, 03:09:11 AM
Post by: MaryJane on September 11, 2007, 03:47:22 AM
I see it as genius for a few reasons:
- Associate a game with a character with whom it makes sense (how long has Link been using archery?)
- Bring down costs by using an already developed overworld
- Use the most familiar franchise character on the Wii (Mario is the most familiar overall, but he doesn't have archery skills (F the Fludd(although I can't wait to use it in SMB)))
- Help people like me going through TP withdrawal (I played the game twice, and am simply waiting to forget the details to play it again)
- Gear people up for the next Zelda (crosses fingers for Christmas 2008) which will likely use the crossbow now
In the end what does it matter who is in the game? Are we really going to doubt whether or not Nintendo will make a quality game? WiiPlay lacked depth like most people lack logic, yet it managed to be worth it's price tage especially when considering it came with a Wiimote. Now obviously the Zapper isn't going to be as ground shattering as the Wiimote but the game will be better than WiiPlay because of the progression. I honestly believe that the higher levels of this game will be like an FPS
QuoteThat is what really peeked my interest, fast paced action defending Link against the dudes from TP who rode those massive boar like creatures, with it taking more than one shot, and a shots to right places to defeat "bosses".
Start with stationary bull's-eyes and graduate to moving targets before defending Link against all kinds of enemies.
Don't underestimate Nintendo's game making capabilities. Underestimate their online/Wii24Connect/WiiWare plans until we see them, but we already know that Nintendo makes great games.
Post by: Mario on September 11, 2007, 03:56:13 AM
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Originally posted by: TheYoungerPlumber
Uuugh. Aonuma and Miyamoto allowed this?
Apparently they like videogames
Post by: Athrun Zala on September 11, 2007, 04:49:05 AM
Quotewha? didn't the last Famitsu confir that the game covered 0, 1 and 3 only?
The Umbrella Chronicles reveals the back story behind the fall of the Umbrella Corporation by exploring locations from Resident Evil 0, 1, 2 and 3
don't get my hopes up Nintendo...
oh, and Link's Crossbow Training? WTF?! Link doesn't even use a crossbow...
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 11, 2007, 05:08:13 AM
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Originally posted by: MaryJane
Don't underestimate Nintendo's game making capabilities. Underestimate their online/Wii24Connect/WiiWare plans until we see them, but we already know that Nintendo makes great games.
Kind of like Wii Play right? Nintendo makes great games, yes, but this looks to be Wii Play all over, where you are mainly paying for the Wii Zapper and the game will be a barebones game that may be fun for 30 minutes.
Post by: decoyman on September 11, 2007, 05:29:14 AM
For all we know, at least one phase of the "defending Link from enemies" line could mean:
• shooting while riding Epona on a set course
• boar-riding enemies who you must defeat before they come up alongside and try to take a swipe at you
• all while using the analog to take aim 360° all around you to make sure none sneak up on you
So, look me straight in the eye and tell me that wouldn't one-up even a revamped Duck Hunt... If it ends up being a "Link at the County Fair Shooting Game" kind of deal, then I'll be disappointed just like everyone else. But the point is, we don't know anything yet, so there's no point freaking out or going all doomsday over it. The potential here is pretty amazing if you ask me.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 11, 2007, 05:38:33 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on September 11, 2007, 05:44:49 AM
I don't care if Japan doesn't like Zelda. They used to and we still do. So why reward them for that? Why change Zelda for those that stopped caring when the most lucrative videogame market in the world still likes Zelda as Zelda? It's always "who isn't my customer?" not just with Nintendo but with TV shows and music acts and other videogame companies. It's even that way with politicians or retail stores or restaurants. No one looks at who actually is their fan or customer or supporter. Loyality is like an invitation for neglect as they all just assume you'll be there.
Post by: decoyman on September 11, 2007, 05:49:59 AM
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
Forgive me for being a bit pessimistic...
I'LL NEVER FORGIVE YOU FOR THAT, GP.
I agree about the fact that a budget game generally won't be one that gets a large dev team or much time... but they've got a ton of assets and a dandy engine already with TP, so why not use them to make something cool and new?
I propose that it may actually be more work to make this game suck.
Post by: king of snake on September 11, 2007, 06:08:04 AM
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Originally posted by: Athrun Zala
oh, and Link's Crossbow Training? WTF?! Link doesn't even use a crossbow...
I guess that explains the training part?
Post by: pyrokamileon on September 11, 2007, 06:17:34 AM
Post by: ShyGuy on September 11, 2007, 07:10:54 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 11, 2007, 08:43:48 AM
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Originally posted by: decoymanQuote
Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
Forgive me for being a bit pessimistic...
I'LL NEVER FORGIVE YOU FOR THAT, GP.
I agree about the fact that a budget game generally won't be one that gets a large dev team or much time... but they've got a ton of assets and a dandy engine already with TP, so why not use them to make something cool and new?
I propose that it may actually be more work to make this game suck.
Well here is hoping you are right!
Post by: LuigiHann on September 11, 2007, 08:50:39 AM
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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
Based on what we know so far, I think this cheapens the Zelda license.
So far, we know:
-The title
-The price point
-That it comes with an accessory
Maybe it's just because I got over this "cheapening the series" phase when 4 Swords came out, but I don't see how this is a big deal. If it sucks, then I'll be mad. But we have no way of knowing that yet.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 11, 2007, 09:07:54 AM
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Originally posted by: LuigiHannQuote
Originally posted by: ShyGuy
Based on what we know so far, I think this cheapens the Zelda license.
So far, we know:
-The title
-The price point
-That it comes with an accessor
-That it is a crossbow shooter even though Link doesn't have a crossbow
Maybe it's just because I got over this "cheapening the series" phase when 4 Swords came out, but I don't see how this is a big deal. If it sucks, then I'll be mad. But we have no way of knowing that yet.
Fixed.
Post by: LuigiHann on September 11, 2007, 09:20:33 AM
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenixQuote
Originally posted by: LuigiHannQuote
Originally posted by: ShyGuy
Based on what we know so far, I think this cheapens the Zelda license.
So far, we know:
-The title
-The price point
-That it comes with an accessor
-That it is a crossbow shooter
Maybe it's just because I got over this "cheapening the series" phase when 4 Swords came out, but I don't see how this is a big deal. If it sucks, then I'll be mad. But we have no way of knowing that yet.
Fixed.
Fixed it back. Whether or not Link has used a crossbow in previous games has no bearing on this one. Judging from the title, I'd say it's a safe bet that he will get a crossbow at the beginning of the game. It's not as if crossbows don't exist in the Twilight Princess universe.
Post by: ShyGuy on September 11, 2007, 09:40:30 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on September 11, 2007, 10:21:32 AM
I think most of us are just scared the whole thing is going to be a big recycle job of Twilight Princess, which is something that WOULD cheapen the Zelda series. If it turns out to be a great game then all is fine but does anyone expect it to be? It's really a budget title that comes with a piece of plastic that doesn't actually do anything but hold the controller in a certain way.
Post by: mantidor on September 11, 2007, 01:38:04 PM
well, not quite of course, but the concept is the same, using the name Zelda into something to get sales, but thats not even the bad part. As I've said, Zelda is not really a "shooting" game, anything could fit better with a Zapper, after all is just a piece of plastic meant to emulate a damn shotgun, so what is the point of using it to emulate something else? I'll rather just use the remote without anything. I can't believe Nintendo is this clueless about why people buy plastic cases that look like a weapon, if you get one is because the game you want to use it for has that weapon, its TOO DAMN obvious.
Seriously, just imagine any customer seeing a plastic shotgun and the game that comes packed in is a medieval crossbow game? WTF? how they expect to sell this outside the people who will buy anything Zelda? how is it going to get bought by the obvious audience, people who would use it for RE games or FPS?
EDIT: oh wait, wait, wait, I always thought the zapper was this one!, argh, I just saw the official one and I thought it was some bad mock like the ones IGN made a long time ago. I don't like that design, it only fits for games with that specific gun design, like the chicago typewriter form RE4, and (oh surprise) a crossbow... kind of.... A shotgun is more generic and fits with more different gun types.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 11, 2007, 01:41:23 PM
Post by: Kairon on September 11, 2007, 01:57:34 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
I think most of us are just scared the whole thing is going to be a big recycle job of Twilight Princess, which is something that WOULD cheapen the Zelda series.
Hello OoT and Majora's Mask.
Editted for clarity.
Post by: mantidor on September 11, 2007, 02:01:50 PM
Post by: Maximilian on September 11, 2007, 02:03:48 PM
I have to agree with the folks that point out that none of us know what the game will be like. It probably won't be over the top great but it might be fun. You don't know, so don't be so quick to judge.
Finally I gotta say that if all of you hate the idea of a Zapper and a pack-in Zelda shooting game, you shouldn't be nay saying and predicting doomsday. All you have to do is not buy it. 'Nuff said.
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