Post by: Mashiro on July 11, 2007, 07:49:49 AM
/thoughts?
Wow sony is really stretching with this! They have CHEWIE yes Chewbacca from Star Wars himself is on the stage showing the PSP Star Wars thing.
On a random side note the Sony presenter has stated like 10 times how nervous he is being up there presenting, yesh.
Post by: Kairon on July 11, 2007, 07:57:23 AM
Poor, poor Jack Trenton.
Post by: Ian Sane on July 11, 2007, 07:59:21 AM
Cool idea but wrong system. If I want to play PSP games on the TV I'll just get the PS2 game that the PSP game was either ported from or later ported to.
Now the DS needs something like this where you can use the Wii remote as your stylus. I really want to be able to play DS games on a TV, particularly for titles like New Super Mario Bros that don't really use the touch screen.
The PSP's problems are price and major lack of exclusive games. I don't think this fixes those problems. The PSP isn't relevant. The Gameboy was relevant. People still play old Gameboy games but no one really plays Game Gear games. Nintendo's portables were never just portables. They were essential videogame systems that you had to own so you didn't miss out on some of the greatest games of all time. Even if you didn't have any intention of using it as a portable you still bought it, just for the games it had. That's what Sony and anyone else who tries to make a portable has to learn. You really need to make a must-own videogame system that also happens to be portable.
Post by: Mashiro on July 11, 2007, 08:01:26 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
The PSP's problems are price and major lack of exclusive games. I don't think this fixes those problems. The PSP isn't relevant. The Gameboy was relevant. People still play old Gameboy games but no one really plays Game Gear games. Nintendo's portables were never just portables. They were essential videogame systems that you had to own so you didn't miss out on some of the greatest games of all time. Even if you didn't have any intention of using it as a portable you still bought it, just for the games it had. That's what Sony and anyone else who tries to make a portable has to learn. You really need to make a must-own videogame system that also happens to be portable.
Probably one of the best paragraphs about handhelds I've read, so true.
Post by: Nick DiMola on July 11, 2007, 08:16:45 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on July 11, 2007, 08:26:48 AM
Post by: Nephilim on July 11, 2007, 09:28:29 AM
PSP thin + star wars game + memory stick = $199 US
Post by: Mashiro on July 11, 2007, 09:37:43 AM
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Originally posted by: DeadlyD
this is going to hurt DS
PSP thin + star wars game + memory stick = $199 US
It's not like DS already has a commanding lead on PSP or anything and the DragonQuest game will make sure that over seas the DS still slaughters PSP.
Not saying this wont help PSP but it's not gonna really harm DS.
Post by: Ceric on July 11, 2007, 10:10:07 AM
Do I think this will swing the balance of power. No.
Do I think the output is a good idea. Yes.
Do I think that if they would have stopped shipping PS2's when the PS3 started shipping so developers had to move their cheaper titles to the PSP that this would have made more a difference. Yes.
If they can phase out the PS2 and position the PSP as their budget system it could easily have more life in it. Especially since there is no real rush for a full update till either the DS2 or GBA2. The also have the luxury of moving to solid state carts instead of the UMD vie a read only Memory Stick. It will never overtake the DS par se but it could be a solid earner for Sony.
Post by: Requiem on July 11, 2007, 10:13:42 AM
Post by: Kairon on July 11, 2007, 10:53:48 AM
Post by: Caliban on July 11, 2007, 12:43:51 PM
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Originally posted by: MashiroQuote
Originally posted by: DeadlyD
this is going to hurt DS
PSP thin + star wars game + memory stick = $199 US
It's not like DS already has a commanding lead on PSP or anything and the DragonQuest game will make sure that over seas the DS still slaughters PSP.
Not saying this wont help PSP but it's not gonna really harm DS.
DeadlyD was being sarcastic.
Post by: Mashiro on July 11, 2007, 01:13:45 PM
Post by: capamerica on July 11, 2007, 04:45:38 PM
Their are a few PSP only games that I would much rather play on a TV that on the PSP.
If they can do a firmware hack that will let me play games off a memory stick with the new PSP I MIGHT pick it up.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 11, 2007, 05:15:20 PM
I see the PSP and PS2 as being in competition more than it is with the DS, but maybe that's just me... I mean, the types of games on the DS and PSP are not really the same. The DS retains the handheld/portable feel, but the PSP is just a console you can hold in your hands. I don't know if that makes sense or not...
Post by: couchmonkey on July 12, 2007, 06:08:34 AM
This is why, when Nintendo says its not competing with Sony and Microsoft, it really means, "We're looking for a new way to take their names and kick their asses." For all the rhetoric about how PSP and DS aren't competing, I'll always remember last year when Sony announced it was lowering PSP shipments by 3 million, and a couple of weeks later Nintendo announced it was increasing DS shipments by 3 million.
Post by: Ian Sane on July 12, 2007, 06:33:03 AM
Post by: MarioAllStar on July 12, 2007, 08:30:49 AM
Competition does exist between the big three, but Nintendo's form of competition is about reaching out to new demographics, not capturing more of the same group. When Sony or Microsoft brag, they brag about selling x million units. When Nintendo brags, they brag about winning over soccer moms and old people. In the end, all three are competing for sales, but Nintendo's competition is fought differently. It's not a cover-up, it's just a fact.
Post by: Mashiro on July 12, 2007, 08:34:31 AM
The last thing I could remember being a "cover up" for this gen from Nintendo was the release of the DS. When they said the whole "this will be a third tier product" trying to say how the Gameboy brand wouldn't be going anywhere and yada yada.
That was them covering themselves incase in bombed. The Wii I think they knew what they were doing since DS was a big testing ground in the non-gamer market.
Post by: Ghisy on July 12, 2007, 09:39:49 AM
Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 12, 2007, 03:34:09 PM
Well, no, actually I wasn't. I'm glad Sony didn't do very much to improve it because I like gloating over Sony fans for the way they bashed Nintendo in the past.
You know a company is getting desperate when they start using paid actors dressed in costumes to promote their products, lol.
Post by: IceCold on July 12, 2007, 04:33:23 PM
QuoteHave pity on the Sony fanboys.. we were like that not too long ago
Originally posted by: Requiem
Optimism's a mother-f*cker.
Post by: Nick DiMola on November 29, 2007, 05:45:26 AM
The reasons they give are as follow:
1. 1 Million new PSPs were sold in Japan in around two months
This seems generally irrelevant, this happens to be a hot time to buy games and game systems, so those numbers are probably not indicative of the sales it will see come the spring time through the summer.
2. Sales figures for PSPs are going up, sales figures for DS Lites are going down (in Japan)
This also means jack, because the DS's lead is so commanding, it is doubtful the PSP selling better for a couple months is going to propel it ahead of the DS. Plus Japan is a much smaller part of the world equation.
3. PSP actually has more good games to play
This just made me LOL. Hard.
4. The PSP has better PS3 integration compared with the DS and Wii
This means nothing as well because the PS3 market share is not very big (for now at least) and having integration with it is not necessarily going to pad your sales numbers too well.
5. The PSP has better media capabilities
Well clearly, UMD was so successful media capabilities are obviously what everyone is looking for in their gaming system.
6. The PSP has better add-ons
Add-ons are pointless and nobody cares about them.
7. The PSP actually sold as well the PS2
I don't see where they get those numbers but sure ...
8. Sony's planning a PSP Phone
Of course that's going to help. The N-Gage did so well, who wouldn't want to toss a phone in it?
Pretty ridiculous IMO.
Post by: that Baby guy on November 29, 2007, 06:21:27 AM
Post by: matt oz on November 29, 2007, 07:29:42 AM
It's just really odd how people have irrational hatred toward Nintendo. I don't understand it all.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on November 29, 2007, 08:47:44 AM
