"Maeda also said he expects an upcoming "Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games" title, co-developed by Sega and Nintendo, to sell several million units, rivalling such big name titles as Microsoft Corp.'s "Halo 3"."
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Post by: Kairon on July 04, 2007, 09:41:50 PM
That's VERY high...
Maybe they should ask Nintendo to delay Mario Galaxy, Wii Music, and Wii Sports 2 if they want to get anywhere close to Halo 3.
Also, advertise the HELL out of the game. Everywhere. Even to non-gamers.
Title: RE:Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 04, 2007, 09:42:03 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Mashiro From Reuters.com
"Maeda also said he expects an upcoming "Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games" title, co-developed by Sega and Nintendo, to sell several million units, rivalling such big name titles as Microsoft Corp.'s "Halo 3"."
But I thought the PS3 was going to win the system wars? Once again Sega screws up!
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Plugabugz on July 04, 2007, 09:51:07 PM
We had high expectations* with Secret Rings too.
*change the definition of high to "just being good"
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: LuigiHann on July 04, 2007, 10:00:09 PM
Once there was a little ol' ant Thought he'd moooove a rubber-tree-plant
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Mario on July 04, 2007, 10:32:16 PM
Ok so if it only sells 1 million it's a flop.
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 05, 2007, 02:13:54 AM
They place these ridiculously high expectations on it so if it does fail to meet those expectations they can point to that and feel justified in their condemnation of Nintendo hardware.
A game involving both Sonic and Mario *COULD* sell very well, but an Olympic game?! Screw that, the fans want to see an action game or even an RPG.
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: UncleBob on July 05, 2007, 02:35:28 AM
It's going to sell crap-tons. Doesn't matter if it's good or not (should be good though, isn't Miyamoto involved?)
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Smash_Brother on July 05, 2007, 03:29:35 AM
Yes, Miyamoto is overseeing, from what I remember.
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Strell on July 05, 2007, 03:32:08 AM
Hmmm. I'm in the not-convinced camp on this one, because I'm imagining Mario Party with Wii Sports, which means a fairly vanilla offline affair, which doesn't strike me as all that interesting.
'Course maybe it is totally schweet and I am completely offbase, but at the moment I'm really doubting the hype.
Guess I'll wait for a movie or something first though.
I'd still prefer the old, old rumor of the Nintendo + Sega RPG, where the characters were named Ages and Odnetnin.
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Ian Sane on July 05, 2007, 06:15:59 AM
I think Sega has unrealistic expectations for this title. Hell I'd question how well this game would have done back when Sonic still mattered. "Mario and Sonic" is like "YEAH!! ALRIGHT!!" but then "at the Olympic Games" crashes you back to Earth. It's the ultimate team-up in a setting that isn't really that exciting. The title even sounds like some Berenstain Bears book. It sounds like Mario and Sonic meeting up at the Olympics to solve a mystery and teach everyone a valuable lesson about sportsmanship.
It'll probably sell alright but to compare it to Halo 3 is nuts. I wouldn't even consider this one of the Wii's big upcoming titles. Pretty much every gamer alive could think of a more exciting idea for a Mario/Sonic team-up.
Title: RE:Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Kairon on July 05, 2007, 06:27:33 AM
I REALLY feel that it's wrong to put down this game just because it's at the olympics. That's a very GAMER reaction, a very traditional "where's the ultra cool?" reaction. I don't think we should stay stuck in that mode of thinking when anticipating a game's worth.
After all, Wii Sports is the top seller for the Wii, outselling all doubters. If Sonic and Mario at the Olympic games is basically Wii Sports 2 with Mario and Sonic doing their thing... then it DOES have potential, especially with Miyamoto popping his head in every once in awhile.
To dismiss it for not fulfilling your fanboi dreams is, ultimately, short-sighted.
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: LuigiHann on July 05, 2007, 06:32:03 AM
I have nothing against the Olympics, but it's just a really odd premise. It also hints at minigameness.
That said, I'm not judging it yet. It certainly could be interesting.
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Ian Sane on July 05, 2007, 06:37:36 AM
"That's a very GAMER reaction"
Aren't gamers the only people who would give a sh!t about Mario and Sonic teaming up in the first place?
"After all, Wii Sports is the top seller for the Wii, outselling all doubters."
The game comes with EVERY Wii. Of course it's the top seller.
Though you're right in that in regards to sales I am looking at this too much from the perspective of a gamer. Regarding if a game is GOOD I should take that approach but regarding sales you're right. All potential customers should be taken into account when talking about sales.
I still think Sega is being too optimistic though. Sonic is damaged goods.
Title: RE:Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Kairon on July 05, 2007, 07:22:23 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Ian Sane The game comes with EVERY Wii. Of course it's the top seller.
Not in japan it doesn't!
Quote Originally posted by: Ian Sane Sonic is damaged goods.
It's sad because it's true!
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: couchmonkey on July 05, 2007, 08:33:17 AM
Kids and families are the target audience of this game.
I think Sega's thinking a little too big there, myself, but if the game turns out to be really good, maybe. If it turns out to be Mario Sports quality, it will probably garner Mario sports sales plus a bit extra thanks to the Olympics and Sonic brands.
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: trip1eX on July 05, 2007, 10:34:18 AM
It has great potential especially if you think Mario Sports, but if you think Sega as of late then you wake up.
Title: RE:Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 05, 2007, 11:09:49 AM
Well when Miyamoto supervised Amusement Vision during the F-zero GX everyone can agree we got excellent results.
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 05, 2007, 11:15:46 AM
Then release GX next to SCII, and end up with weak sales.
Release Mario & Sonic next to Smash Bros., and end up with dog food afterthoughts.
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: ShyGuy on July 05, 2007, 11:36:30 AM
Do people even care as much about the Olympics anymore? The interest seems to have waned in the past decade or so.
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Ian Sane on July 05, 2007, 11:44:06 AM
"Do people even care as much about the Olympics anymore? The interest seems to have waned in the past decade or so."
It seems almost like people haven't cared much for the Olympics for almost four years yet I have a strange feeling interest will pick up again around summer 2008.
If there is a loss in interest it's probably because the Cold War is over. The USSR created the perfect sports rival for the USA so people were more interested. That's just a theory though since as a Canadian my view of the Olympics has always been from a Canadian perspective (where the Winter Olympics are a MUCH bigger deal).
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Kairon on July 05, 2007, 11:50:30 AM
Yeah, Winter Olympics are AWESOME. Vancouver 2010 Baby YEEEAAAAHHHH!!!!
I mean, geeze, long track and short track and relays and singles and pairs and ice dancing and hockey and curling and OHMYGOD *doesn't care that much for the ski/snowboarding events*.
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: BigJim on July 05, 2007, 12:24:30 PM
This is the era of reality TV. Unless the losers eat bugs, then we don't care about the Olympics, Miss America, etc.
I'm being a little silly, but it is actually partly true. Ratings for these types of programs and events have gone south like a duck in winter.
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: that Baby guy on July 05, 2007, 12:49:33 PM
I felt like the '96 Summer Olympics were a pretty big deal. I haven't really felt that way since then.
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Kairon on July 05, 2007, 12:58:28 PM
Even though I was 10 years old, everything seemed to go right at the Lillehammer olympics. Also, the Sydney Olympics were decent...
Oh, but the 2006 (DOH! 2008) Olympics will be a huge event. They'll be held in Communist China, after all.
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 05, 2007, 01:17:43 PM
Kairon, reporting from THE FUTURE.
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Ceric on July 05, 2007, 04:09:24 PM
My problem with the olympics is that there are a lot of events I love to watch they just don't get air time. Like Bobsleding for Winter or Fencing for Summer.
I'll say this now for record. I've never played an olympic game that was an all around good package. There would be a few gems but that be it.
Also some of the buildings China is building for this is going to be really interesting.
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: IceCold on July 05, 2007, 06:13:58 PM
Quote *doesn't care that much for the ski/snowboarding events*.
Not even the aerial ski event? That's one of my favourite ones..
Title: RE:Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 05, 2007, 09:25:50 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Ian Sane I think Sega has unrealistic expectations for this title. Hell I'd question how well this game would have done back when Sonic still mattered. "Mario and Sonic" is like "YEAH!! ALRIGHT!!" but then "at the Olympic Games" crashes you back to Earth. It's the ultimate team-up in a setting that isn't really that exciting. The title even sounds like some Berenstain Bears book. It sounds like Mario and Sonic meeting up at the Olympics to solve a mystery and teach everyone a valuable lesson about sportsmanship.
It'll probably sell alright but to compare it to Halo 3 is nuts. I wouldn't even consider this one of the Wii's big upcoming titles. Pretty much every gamer alive could think of a more exciting idea for a Mario/Sonic team-up.
LOl, Ian you are dead on right this time.
This reminds me of this time in the early 90s when I went to Toys r' us and seen this game that had Mario on it. The game was called "Mario's Time Machine". I was thinking, well, Mario games always kick ass so I convinced my parents to get it for me thinking it was something like Super Mario World, but with the addition of a time machine. What could possibly be better than that?
I brought it home anxious to play it, and what do I find out about it? It is a stupid edutainment game. It wasn't a total waste beccause I did learn some things, and as an edutainment game I suppose it wasn't bad, but considering it had Mario in it I was expecting something far different. That really was my fault because I bought it on the title and cover and didn't do any research.
Anyway, this Mario & Sonic at the Olympics game is reminding me of that.
Does it help matters that Miyamoto is involved in this? Well, I'm sure it helps a great deal, however Miyamoto isn't infallible and has created some games over the years that have been quietly swept under the rug and forgotten because they were just terrible. This could be one of those games. We remember him for his excellent games, but he has his share of crap.
In addition, Miyamoto handling this game's production may be like calling a professional chef over to do your BBQ. Would a professional chef make the hamburgers better? Probably... but there is only so much to improve, and on this his talents would be wasted.
Bottom line: I admire Miyamoto, but I'd rather see him focus on other genres.
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: SixthAngel on July 05, 2007, 09:38:09 PM
The game has the branding power of Mario, Sonic, and the olympics. Just with the names alone it is going to be huge. With the possible great gameplay for the olympic events (see Wii Sports) it could be gigantic.
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 05, 2007, 09:54:42 PM
If they time its release to be during the Olympic hype and if they advertise it well enough then it really could do well.
My gripe is mainly that I want to see them in a different genre of game together.
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Plugabugz on July 05, 2007, 10:15:30 PM
I wait for the inevitable "AiAi and Crash Bandicoot in the Garden"
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Kairon on July 05, 2007, 10:48:18 PM
They p[lan to release it by the end of this year. Isn't that like... 6 months before the Olympic hype... or do they expect for this casual/non-game to take that long to ramp up in sales and hit it big, akin to typical non-game sales trends?
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: KDR_11k on July 05, 2007, 11:27:24 PM
I'm sure Sega has high expectations for every Sonic game.
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Michael8983 on July 06, 2007, 12:34:01 AM
Let's just hope this is some twisted Mario/Sonic world version of the Olympic games. Realism could be its downfall but with Miyamoto involved I'm not too worried. In fact maybe the game will have two modes, a realistic mode using Miis to mimic the actual games then a fantasy mode with tweaked out versions of all the games for said mascots.
I wouldn't worry too much about Sega's expectations. I mean I'm sure they had high expectations of their recent Virtua Fighter and Sonic game on the PS3 and they sold like three copies each.
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Infernal Monkey on July 06, 2007, 03:38:22 AM
To my exciting understanding, America doesn't tend to give a crap about Olympic video games (or the Olympics in general). This'll probably sell like crazy in Europe because it has Sonic in the title of it, and Epyx' Summer Games was a huge success like eight hundred years ago. Japan will buy fifty billion copies because it's got Mario in the title and.. well.. it's got Mario in the title.
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: IceCold on July 06, 2007, 08:37:04 AM
Quote This could be one of those games. We remember him for his excellent games, but he has his share of crap.
Please elaborate.. what specific games are you talking about?
Title: RE:Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 06, 2007, 12:40:58 PM
Quote Originally posted by: IceCold
Quote This could be one of those games. We remember him for his excellent games, but he has his share of crap.
Please elaborate.. what specific games are you talking about?
That racing game for the SNES that used the FX chip for starters... can't remember the names of the others, but suffice it to say if they were great they would be remembered. Don't get me wrong, though. Almost everything he has touched has become a classic. I'm just saying he doesn't *always* have a midas touch.
That said though, I am realizing I have prejudged this game before really learning anything about it other than the title. It might actually be a really great game for its genre, but like I said my gripe is mainly that it isn't an RPG or Action/Adventure type game. I don't think the Wii needs more Wii Sports type games to be honest...
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Kairon on July 06, 2007, 02:39:56 PM
FX Stunt Racing or something like that?
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: KDR_11k on July 06, 2007, 07:11:04 PM
Stuntrace FX. No idea if it's any good but I suppose a fully 3d racing game on the SNES wasn't a common genre.
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Michael8983 on July 06, 2007, 09:48:28 PM
Stunt Race FX was brilliant for its time. It and Starfox were among the first games to use 3D polygon models. I mean it wasn't a masterpiece or anything but how many RACING GAMES are?
Title: RE:Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Mario on July 06, 2007, 10:41:04 PM
Quote Originally posted by: KDR_11k I'm sure Sega has high expectations for every Sonic game.
Unlike consumers.
Title: RE:Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: LuigiHann on July 07, 2007, 01:01:48 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Mario
Quote Originally posted by: KDR_11k I'm sure Sega has high expectations for every Sonic game.
Unlike consumers.
I'd imagine that at this point, most of the game's demographic don't even know about the game yet. For better or worse.
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: KDR_11k on July 07, 2007, 06:29:29 AM
There's preorder boxes at Gamestop so chance is they do know.
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Mario on July 07, 2007, 06:34:49 AM
Whoa that was quick
Title: RE: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario and Sonic Olympics game
Post by: KDR_11k on July 07, 2007, 09:02:41 AM
Those have been there longer than the Mario Galaxy preorder boxes, I think they had them since the first announcement of the game.
Title: RE:Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Mashiro on July 10, 2007, 06:23:07 AM
Figured I would change this to the "official" thread. Wasn't aware it was a one thread per game policy so my bad moderators.
Continue discussions of the lackluster screenshots here haha.
Title: RE:Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Michael8983 on July 11, 2007, 12:29:52 AM
It's kind of a catch 22. If the characters don't have any advantages over each other it will strip them of their uniqueness. If they do it will make for an imbalanced game. The only solution I see is if there was some sort of story mode that took you through the entire series of games. Some games would require the speed of a character like Sonic while others would require balance like Mario's or strength like Bowsers'. Thus giving each character equal chance at overall victory. But there's bound to be a way to play the games individually too. Perhaps in that mode they'll have you use your Miis instead. That way you won't be fighting over who gets the fastest/strongest character with the natural advantage. I think featuring the Miis would give the game as much appeal to casuals as featuring Mario and Sonic will to hardcores.
Also if this game has any chance at true greatness it better not be afraid of pushing the bounds of realism. There can be an "official" mode that stays true to the games but there should be another mode that allows for power-ups and hopefully more appropriate backdrops that might look like something in an actual Mario or Sonic game.
...and finally who else thinks Nintendo is going to have to come out with another EVEN STRONGER wrist-strap after this game and the inevitable damage it will cause. I mean look at that BOWSER screenshot!!!
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: LuigiHann on July 11, 2007, 01:13:35 AM
Mario and Sonic run at about the same speed, thanks to those mandatory drug tests.
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: KDR_11k on July 11, 2007, 07:12:31 AM
I think all olympics games I've played so far had the players go through all events in order.
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Michael8983 on July 11, 2007, 07:29:45 AM
Course it is worth noting that, in the original Sonic titles on the Genesis, Tails and Knuckles and even DR ROBOTNIK all ran as fast as Sonic. I'll never forgot blowing up the doc's robot only to be confounded by how those skinny legs ran that fat tub to safety and Sonic WAS NOT ABLE TO CATCH HIM!!
So maybe Sonic's "king of speed" reputation has always been more hype than fact.
Title: RE:Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Mashiro on July 14, 2007, 10:36:43 AM
Link says it all. It's weird hearing the movie announcer guy do the narrative lol.
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Artimus on July 14, 2007, 03:26:40 PM
This looks so bad. That's what you get for letting SEGA do anything.
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Kairon on July 14, 2007, 07:45:38 PM
DELAY! Delay delay delay! OH PLZ GOD DELAY!!!
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on July 20, 2007, 05:56:02 AM
Anyone else notice the Wifi logo at the end?
Title: RE:Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 20, 2007, 06:04:32 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Kairon DELAY! Delay delay delay! OH PLZ GOD DELAY!!!
I wish I had the ability to tell a game's quality from a tiny CG trailer...
Title: RE:Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: NWR_pap64 on July 20, 2007, 06:44:14 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Smash_Brother Anyone else notice the Wifi logo at the end?
I'm guessing the DS version will have online gameplay. Maybe this is just me being pessimistic but I doubt the Wii version will have online gameplay, or if it did it would probably be something simple like an online ranking feature.
Title: RE:Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Kairon on July 20, 2007, 10:10:42 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Quote Originally posted by: Kairon DELAY! Delay delay delay! OH PLZ GOD DELAY!!!
I wish I had the ability to tell a game's quality from a tiny CG trailer...
Four specific letters can hint at a games quality if put in a certain configuration: S-E-G-A. Yeah, I'm a Sonic SOTR defender, but still... /afraid.
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 20, 2007, 10:23:08 AM
Well if you are talking about Sega's game quality in general, what good would a simple delay do? =)
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Ceric on July 20, 2007, 11:17:01 AM
I would really enjoy if the implemented all the games. Heres a list for refreshers.
Aquatics – Diving Aquatics – Swimming Aquatics – Synchronized swimming Aquatics – Water polo Archery Athletics (track and field) Badminton Baseball Basketball Boxing Canoeing – Flatwater Canoeing – Slalom Cycling – BMX Cycling – Mountain biking Cycling – Road Cycling – Track Equestrian Fencing Field hockey Football (soccer) Gymnastics – Artistic Gymnastics – Rhythmic Gymnastics – Trampoline Handball Judo Modern pentathlon Rowing Sailing Shooting Softball Table tennis Taekwondo Tennis Triathlon Volleyball – Indoor Volleyball – Beach Weightlifting Wrestling
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: IceCold on July 20, 2007, 05:05:40 PM
Give me squash or give me death!
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Ages on July 21, 2007, 07:45:30 AM
Didnt they get rid of baseball? Hence the World Baseball Classic
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Ceric on July 21, 2007, 09:25:53 AM
This is the last year. Actually its the last year for a lot of sports.
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: NWR_pap64 on November 09, 2007, 11:22:15 AM
Wow...Am I the ONLY NWR forumer that actually bothered with this game? Now I believe that M&S will fail to sell 4 million...
Anyways, I got the game today and here are some VERY early impressions.
Its fun. I haven't gone deep enough to form a FULL opinion of it but I like what I have played. Despite many of the events being full on waggle I am liking the controls. They are quite responsive and work well even if some forms are rather annoying and tiring (the swimming events might be my least favorite of the bunch).
Some of the events are very addicting, in that "I know I can do MUCH better" type of way. I couldn't stop playing the trampoline event because I WANTED to get the highest score possible. Its something I personally like and makes for a very fun time waster.
So gameplay right now is quite solid and can't wait to discover the rest of it.
Now for the negatives...
First off, while the graphics are nice and clean WHY ARE THE CHARACTERS SO STIFF AND LIFELESS?? Seriously, they stand still with only a few "breathing" animations here and there and when they animate they are quite stiff and robotic. After Next Level Games did such a wonderful job on making living, breathing characters full of charm and wit on "Mario Strikers Charged" Sega's take on the Nintendo characters as well as their own is just plain lazy and lacking heart.
The mini games on the "Gallery" option are quiet poor, tech demo quality event. When you win them you get a real Olympics facts but they are not worth it so will only unlock them when I am bored out of my mind.
Outside those nitpicks I am enjoying the game so far. I'll try to play it with other people to see how the experience holds off.
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on November 09, 2007, 11:26:23 AM
"Wow...Am I the ONLY NWR forumer that actually bothered with this game? Now I believe that M&S will fail to sell 4 million..."
Super Mario Galaxy. I don't why Nintendo decided to have that plus Fire Emblem plus this game all launching around the same time. But nonetheless there's a bigger Mario game that we're all likely more interested in.
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Kairon on November 09, 2007, 11:40:02 AM
Stop forgetting about me Pap64! T_T
I'm getting this, but I'm waiting for it to arrive since I order it online from Familyvideo.com....
Title: RE:Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: NWR_pap64 on November 09, 2007, 01:29:42 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Kairon Stop forgetting about me Pap64! T_T
...Who are you again? You were that third party game supporter guy...It started with a "K". :p
Ian: Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles also launches on the same week as Mario Galaxy. That's one thing that pisses me off about the games industry. During the winter, spring and summer nothing. Absolutely nothing...Then Fall/Christmas hits and BAM! Tons and Tons of big game, triple A releases from all companies.
Don't know they know how to space out game releases? At the very least Capcom realized that the game market was too crowded and decided to release Harvey Birdman on early 2008 while Nintendo delayed Brawl till spring. Give us something to look forward to on spring and summer!
Title: RE:Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Kairon on November 09, 2007, 09:03:59 PM
I got the game in the mail today! big surprise! ... Oh, and I spent about 3 hours playing it with friends. It's pretty awesome when you have people to share the experience with and you're all open to having fun and willing to be crazy and vocal about it. But god... we're gonna be feeling sore in our arms for the next couple days because of this game, just like Wii Sports.
... I made the mistake of playing Carnival Games afterwards to wind down since it's much less hectic, but then I got hardcore obsessed with one of the mini-games and ended up tossing balls at different colored plastic cups for an additional hour, just making my sore-arm situation worse.
Title: RE:Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: NWR_pap64 on November 10, 2007, 08:11:53 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Kairon I got the game in the mail today! big surprise! ... Oh, and I spent about 3 hours playing it with friends. It's pretty awesome when you have people to share the experience with and you're all open to having fun and willing to be crazy and vocal about it. But god... we're gonna be feeling sore in our arms for the next couple days because of this game, just like Wii Sports.
... I made the mistake of playing Carnival Games afterwards to wind down since it's much less hectic, but then I got hardcore obsessed with one of the mini-games and ended up tossing balls at different colored plastic cups for an additional hour, just making my sore-arm situation worse.
Heh, I know how that is.
Anyways, time to update my impressions...
The more I play it the more I am loving it. The urge to try and outdo yourself and everyone else on the planet it way too strong to avoid and I love it. I decided to check the worldwide leader boards and try and top one of the rowing records. While I didn't rank high I moved up significantly and it was awesome. This game will be like a drug to those that LOVE to prove themselves in anything.
*FACT: Daisy is perhaps the best character for the rowing event. If you check the leader boards the top 5 players have used Daisy as their character.
Earlier, I talked about how crappy some of the Gallery mini games were. Well, I played them for more than an hour last night and while they are extremely simplistic and repetitive they are quite fun and great time wasters. Its just that some games are better than others (the "voice memory" game tends to get annoying with the characters having the same two lines but its good). I also think its a nice touch that they decided to add trivia about the Olympics themselves.
Dream matches are quite fun and the closer you'll ever get to a Mario Sports title on the Wii (for now). I still need to unlock more events but I like the arcade feel of it all.
I think "Archery" has the best and most creative control setup in the game, as well as any other Wii title. The Wiimote acts as the arrow while the nunchuck acts as the bow. You pull back on the Wiimote to simulate the "stretching" feel and you aim with it, while you control the nunchuck to fully align the how and make the best show. It almost feels like you are holding a bow and arrow!
There's definitely a hidden level of depth in many of the events. As the IGN reviews mentions you can't win every event by simply waggling the remote and nunchuck like crazy. You actually have to time the jump and measure the speed of how you move the controller. This is clearly evident on the jumping events in which timing is key. I love it!
In my earlier impressions I complained about the graphics. I wasn't being fair so I'll explain them one more time. I still stand that the characters are far too stiff for this type of game. They are almost like the characters models in the Mario Party games. However, they are very nice, clean, crisp and detailed and the animation is quite good, even if its limited. I also mentioned that the characters lacked attitude and personality. Turns out that they do have a little bit of life in them if you look closely. For example, on the jumping events you get to animate the crowd up by simulating the "clapping" motion. Most characters just clap their hands. However, some of them have their own unique animation. Shadow, for example, is too cool and emo to be all happy and such so in order to get the crowd going he just raises his hand up and down while still being angsty. I honestly thought that was a nice touch. Oh and Wario's gut bounces up and down in the fencing event.
The only events I am not a big fan of are swimming and fencing. In swimming each character has their own swimming styles (dog paddle, crawl, standard and such) and some are more annoying than others. Its the ultimate waggling experience and quite tiring.
As for fencing its good, I just think its too limited and could've been better. You get to do the "poking" motion, but it could've been deeper and maybe have implemented 1:1 controls.
Table Tennis is a personal favorite of mine, but the matches last too long and my arm gets tired quickly. It is quite good and even deep if you know how to play it right. Its definitely far better than Rockstar's Table Tennis :p .
So with more experience under my belt I recommend "Mario and Sonic" if you loved Wii Sports and enjoy the Mario Sports games. The games are quite addicting and the extra features are a BIG welcome. Its not extremely revolutionary, especially if you have played other party games, but if you can ignore that you will find a rock solid game.
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Kairon on November 10, 2007, 08:23:21 AM
Have you tried playing with Miis yet? It's sorta awesome...lol
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: ShyGuy on November 10, 2007, 08:26:30 AM
I would have bought this if the fencing was good.
Title: RE:Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: NWR_pap64 on November 10, 2007, 08:26:50 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Kairon Have you tried playing with Miis yet? It's sorta awesome...lol
Yes I did. Its adds even more Wii Sports charm to the game. Its pretty cool to see yourself participating in a major event like the Olympics against Mario and Sonic and at times, funny! I took an evil Mii I created ages ago and put him in the skeet event and he looked maniacal with gun in hand.
Quote I would have bought this if the fencing was good.
The fencing isn't terrible, though. Let me run it down for ya: The Wii acts as the sword while you move your character with the nunckuck's joystick. You try and avoid the other character's attacks while you find an opening to exploit and go in for the kill. You thrust the Wii remote forward to perform the attack. When you move the controller while holding A you perform a parry attack that will throw the opponent off balance.
There a small bit of depth, but you can win by just moving back and forth and attacking non stop.
Of course, keep in mind this is what I think, meaning that people might like different events.
I recommend EVERYONE to at least rent the game and see what you think. The game warrants at least a try.
Title: RE:Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 10, 2007, 10:56:13 AM
Still have zero interest in this game, but glad you guys are having fun.
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Smash_Brother on November 14, 2007, 08:25:32 AM
Been playing it and enjoying it.
Fencing is surprisingly fun, as well as table tennis and the hammer throw. I even liked the swimming.
WHY did they choose to release this game on the eve of Mario Galaxy? Are they insane? If this had been released sometime mid-summer or even a month or so earlier when there was a full Wii drought going on, this game would have seen infinitely better sales.
I rented this through Gamefly but it could easily be a buy for our group. I REALLY wish I was off beating some of those records right now...
Title: RE:Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: NWR_pap64 on November 14, 2007, 09:47:30 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Smash_Brother Been playing it and enjoying it.
Fencing is surprisingly fun, as well as table tennis and the hammer throw. I even liked the swimming.
WHY did they choose to release this game on the eve of Mario Galaxy? Are they insane? If this had been released sometime mid-summer or even a month or so earlier when there was a full Wii drought going on, this game would have seen infinitely better sales.
I rented this through Gamefly but it could easily be a buy for our group. I REALLY wish I was off beating some of those records right now...
I'm honestly surprised you liked it so much, especially since you played so many party games that used the same control schemes as M&S.
Table tennis is awesome and surprisingly responsive. Like Wii Tennis you can just waggle the wiimote, but its best when you are not a tool box!
Fencing I'm still not to keen on it. Mainly its because its too easy. I can win by doing this: BACK-BACK-FORWARD-STAB STAB
The computer AI doesn't offer that much of a challenge. If they were fierce fighters then maybe I would've enjoyed it a little more. Dream fencing, though, is slightly better.
And swimming is so much better with just the wiimote. It was clever of them to make the characters have unique swimming motions, but some of them are MURDER on the wrists and arms.
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Kairon on November 14, 2007, 01:15:55 PM
I think I'm getting beefier... I played my arms to hell with M & S but I didn't have the oh-my-god-kill-me-now soreness that I experienced a few days after the Wii came out... hehe...
As for the release date, Sega had BETTER give this game a renewed marketting push during the Olympic games... grrr....
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Mario on November 14, 2007, 05:19:08 PM
Word of mouth will keep this selling well until then
Quote Fencing I'm still not to keen on it. Mainly its because its too easy. I can win by doing this: BACK-BACK-FORWARD-STAB STAB
I imagine fencing wouldn't be that good single player, but it's awesome multiplayer.
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Mario on November 17, 2007, 05:59:56 PM
Hey guys can someone tell me if there's anything that needs to be unlocked in this game or if I can just buy it and straight away enjoy all the sports in multiplayer.
Title: RE:Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: NWR_pap64 on November 17, 2007, 06:05:15 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Mario Hey guys can someone tell me if there's anything that needs to be unlocked in this game or if I can just buy it and straight away enjoy all the sports in multiplayer.
You unlock events, as well as the dream events, by completing the circuits in "circuit mode". You don't have to finish in first place to get anything, just finish the circuit in 1st, 2nd or 3rd place.
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Mario on November 22, 2007, 01:08:38 PM
Finally got this game the day of its AUS release and it's already my favourite game on Wii. I'm convinced 4 player Olympics is the greatest fun you can possibly have with a piece of entertainment software. I love getting physical, though I can see why it's not for everyone (fatties). 9 hours playtime yesterday has me buggered, and now i'm stuck and can't get top 3 in one of the 100m sprints in Circuit Mode, i'll need some good rest before having another crack at that.
Archery is a nice surprise with its innovative controls, it's not just point and shoot. Very technical. Table Tennis is awesome because the controls are similar to Wii Tennis. This game is jam packed with so much, I only just noticed the mini-games in the trivia section. Unlocked some of the dream events and they seem pretty gimmicky to me even though they are very cool.
Title: RE:Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: NWR_pap64 on November 22, 2007, 04:09:39 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Mario Finally got this game the day of its AUS release and it's already my favourite game on Wii. I'm convinced 4 player Olympics is the greatest fun you can possibly have with a piece of entertainment software. I love getting physical, though I can see why it's not for everyone (fatties). 9 hours playtime yesterday has me buggered, and now i'm stuck and can't get top 3 in one of the 100m sprints in Circuit Mode, i'll need some good rest before having another crack at that.
Archery is a nice surprise with its innovative controls, it's not just point and shoot. Very technical. Table Tennis is awesome because the controls are similar to Wii Tennis. This game is jam packed with so much, I only just noticed the mini-games in the trivia section. Unlocked some of the dream events and they seem pretty gimmicky to me even though they are very cool.
Just as you posted this IGN AUS posted their review of the game and they hated it! They were annoyed by the fact that you unlock events by playing circuit mode and "just didn't have fun playing it".
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: IceCold on November 22, 2007, 04:14:38 PM
Huh, I guess I'll have to rent it.
Title: RE:Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: NWR_pap64 on November 22, 2007, 04:33:44 PM
Quote Originally posted by: IceCold Huh, I guess I'll have to rent it.
I recommend a rent. Just don't ignore it simply because it ain't getting a ton of press. You might be pleasantly surprised.
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Mario on November 22, 2007, 06:44:12 PM
That review is a complete joke, it sounds like a 5th grade lunch conversation and they dont even get the FACTS right.
Quote There are just so many control missteps here. Why do we have to hold A while we twirl the Wiimote during the Hammer Throw, but press B to release it?
You don't have to hold A at all, just press it once to signal you are ready. Wow.
WTF has happened to gaming journalism? It's outright atrocious when you can get more reliable impressions from a GameFAQs poster. This crap shouldn't be taken lightly, they are making the industry look like a joke.
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Infernal Monkey on November 22, 2007, 07:31:03 PM
No surprise considering IGN Australia is run by the same rejects that have written for Hyper magazine. This game is amazing.
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 26, 2007, 05:42:28 AM
Sorry for bumping this thread but I just wanted to say how HAPPY I am that Mario & Sonic is doing extremely well all over the world. Hell, even Japan, which pretty much ignored it back when it was released, is eating the game up.
Its great that a solid game is finally getting the recognition it deserves.
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 26, 2007, 08:50:04 AM
All people know is Mario & Sonic are on the cover. That's why it sells.
Because Nintendo has destroyed gaming and the hardcore has drowned, and gaming press is ignored, the market has reverted back to in-store book-cover-impressions as the major sale factor.
Title: RE:Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Kairon on December 26, 2007, 09:21:28 AM
Quote Originally posted by: pap64 Sorry for bumping this thread but I just wanted to say how HAPPY I am that Mario & Sonic is doing extremely well all over the world. Hell, even Japan, which pretty much ignored it back when it was released, is eating the game up.
Its great that a solid game is finally getting the recognition it deserves.
I still don't believe that it'll hit the 4 million mark that Sega predicted, but I'm no longer worried that it'll be an embarassing bomb. Here's hoping for a mid-summer 2008 Olympics sales rebirth!
Title: RE:Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 26, 2007, 09:24:43 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Professional 666 All people know is Mario & Sonic are on the cover. That's why it sells.
Because Nintendo has destroyed gaming and the hardcore has drowned, and gaming press is ignored, the market has reverted back to in-store book-cover-impressions as the major sale factor.
As sarcastic and cynical as that was it ain't that far from the truth. I know that Gamestop employees have been selling the game to parents like crazy. Its being suggested as a major holiday title.
And Kairon, I don't believe it will sell 4 million either but the game is far from a bomb.
Title: RE:Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Kairon on December 26, 2007, 09:41:20 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Professional 666 All people know is Mario & Sonic are on the cover. That's why it sells.
This is a good thing. I'm sure that Sega is breathing a HUGE sigh of relief that their once-supreme blue hedgehog mascot is NOT the videogame quality and sales anathema gamers have been making him out to be lately.
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Kairon on January 01, 2008, 07:02:46 PM
First major disappointment with this game: it's waaay too complicated and challenging for my 6 year cousins to understand and do well in. We just popped in Wii Sports instead. Their father was soooo disappointed that I DIDN'T own Wii Play. They own it and love it... they said it was a better game than what I had brought! T_T
Title: RE:Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: ReverendNoahWhateley on January 01, 2008, 08:12:02 PM
To be honest, some of the games are too complicated and disorienting for my taste. It's still fun, for the most part, and I'll keep it because it still feels surreal to have Mario and Sonic in a game together. I do feel kinda guilty for recognizing Knuckles Chaotix characters, though. I should have absolutely no idea who that Kremling guy is supposed to be. So many wasted years...
Title: RE:Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 02, 2008, 01:47:24 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Kairon First major disappointment with this game: it's waaay too complicated and challenging for my 6 year cousins to understand and do well in. We just popped in Wii Sports instead. Their father was soooo disappointed that I DIDN'T own Wii Play. They own it and love it... they said it was a better game than what I had brought! T_T
Maybe Pro is right, maybe Nintendo is destroying gaming.
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 02, 2008, 07:25:24 AM
I am Nostradamoose.
Title: RE:Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 02, 2008, 03:42:44 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Kairon First major disappointment with this game: it's waaay too complicated and challenging for my 6 year cousins to understand and do well in. We just popped in Wii Sports instead. Their father was soooo disappointed that I DIDN'T own Wii Play. They own it and love it... they said it was a better game than what I had brought! T_T
Wow...I know the game has some tricky controls (especially the archery game), but come on! My nephew, niece and their friends have played the game and understood it just fine.
Most of it is waggle anyway, so again, I don't understand what the big deal was...
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Mario on January 02, 2008, 11:28:25 PM
Really, your cousins sound like retards Kairon.
Title: RE: Official Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games Thread
Post by: Kairon on January 03, 2008, 07:09:48 AM
They're 6 year olds for gosh sakes. And I couldn't figure out how to turn the computers OFF, so it wasn't just that the controls were hard, but that the GAME was telling us we sucked EVERYTIME because the computers would ZIP RIGHT BY THEM MERCILESSLY.
http://kotaku.com/364061/mario--sonic-sells-five-million 5 Million copies?
Not quite the 8+ Million that Halo 3 did... but that's pretty respectable, right?
5 million for a collection of mini-games? Ya that is good. I didn't even buy that game.
Title: Re: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario an Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Nick DiMola on March 05, 2008, 01:50:46 PM
Who would've figured that Mario + Sonic = Win.
It doesn't even have to be good (not making a judgment, I haven't even played it), just the fact that it has both of them in it is enough to move product.
Title: Re: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario an Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Chozo Ghost on March 05, 2008, 02:21:47 PM
So, was Sega's ridiculously high expectations for this game met?
Title: Re: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario an Sonic Olympics game
Post by: UncleBob on March 05, 2008, 02:30:53 PM
So, was Sega's ridiculously high expectations for this game met?
Sega predicted 4 million worldwide.
... and the olympics haven't even hit yet. GEEZ. This game could approach Halo 3 numbers!
Title: Re: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario an Sonic Olympics game
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 05, 2008, 02:49:44 PM
At probably <10% of Halo3's budget.
Title: Re: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario an Sonic Olympics game
Post by: DAaaMan64 on March 05, 2008, 03:12:16 PM
If Sega was thinking Mario + Sonic in a game meant insta win this side of the blue, they are lost in the past. That coulda worked in maybe the late 90s, but Sonic Team almost made Sonic into a tag along. Like Gex or Glover.
Title: Re: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario an Sonic Olympics game
Post by: SixthAngel on March 07, 2008, 12:08:42 PM
Mario and Sonic Mountain Dew One side's red, one side's blue!
Like Foaming Liquid Plumber...
Title: Re: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario an Sonic Olympics game
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 08, 2008, 08:59:42 PM
During the week I went back to Mario and Sonic and something great happened; I became HOOKED. True, when I first got it I couldn't stop playing it, but now this was for real. I went back to the game and decided to get all the trophies, all the medals, all the emblems and beat every challenge the game has to offer. During this I realized that even if gamers, the media and even Sega themselves say that this game is aimed towards the casual and young audience the challenge is definitely hardcore.
Seriously, set your mind towards beating the game. You'll realize that it becomes a test in patience, strenght and skill, and I ain't kidding. Try beating all of the circuit modes in one sitting, get the high scores in the events and use each character to your advantage. You'll quickly realize that no casual or young gamer will be able to stomach this.
Mission mode is the game's biggest challenge as some missions require you to be very precise, fast and skillful with the character. I doubt any casual gamer would try to beat a challenge in the required time. This was designed with the hardcore in mind.
This is a lot like Wii Sports; both games are extremely inviting and easy to learn, but when you decide to challenge them a world of depth opens up to you. It ain't easy getting a pro rating in all the events, ESPECIALLY in boxing, and it ain't easy completely everything Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games have to offer. Mock me if you must, but this is what I think.
Title: Re: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario an Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Mario on March 08, 2008, 11:27:04 PM
Mission mode isn't the games biggest challenge, getting high in the online rankings is. That's when you start to learn where the limits are in all the events and how to push them further.
Title: Re: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario an Sonic Olympics game
Post by: ShyGuy on March 09, 2008, 01:36:29 PM
Well, this game sure exceeded expectations. Nintendo and Sega need to setup a big ad budget and have this game all over the Olympics and their TV coverage.
Title: Re: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario an Sonic Olympics game
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 09, 2008, 10:30:09 PM
Mission mode isn't the games biggest challenge, getting high in the online rankings is. That's when you start to learn where the limits are in all the events and how to push them further.
Yeah, I forgot about that. But mission mode isn't a breeze either.
Title: Re: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario an Sonic Olympics game
Post by: ThePerm on March 10, 2008, 02:08:27 AM
so Nintendo bought Sega yet? cus they SHOULD. I want someobody with the pockets to make shenmue 3
Title: Re: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario an Sonic Olympics game
Post by: Ceric on March 10, 2008, 09:45:26 AM
so Nintendo bought Sega yet? cus they SHOULD. I want someobody with the pockets to make shenmue 3
Then you want Microsoft to buy them. That would be something they would want, fits the demographic, unlike Nintendo, Shenmue (If memory serves) wasn't overly Casual Gamer freindly.
Title: Re: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario an Sonic Olympics game
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 10, 2008, 10:42:00 AM
Nintendo has no problems with publishing games that aren't casual-friendly, they just don't usually develop them in-house. Retro made Metroid which they published and Monolith is making Disaster: Day of Crisis for them to publish, I would assume if Nintendo bought Sega they'd function the same way, remaining more or less intact but having Nintendo watching over them and providing some guidance. And I'd settle for a port of Shenmue 1 & 2 together on the same disc, because I never finished the first one and Sega being stupid made sure I wasn't able to get the second one on the DC.
Title: Re: Reuters: Sega has very high expectations for Mario an Sonic Olympics game
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 10, 2008, 01:34:05 PM
Nintendo has no problem not promoting games that aren't casual-friendly.