Post by: Kairon on May 24, 2007, 05:13:13 PM
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Unlike Wii Sports, the title also automatically imports all the friend codes stored on your Wii console, which is an extremely positive sign step toward the eradication of individual software-based friend codes. What this means is that you won't need to re-enter any friend codes if you've already added your friend's Wii system number to your console.
Huzzah? Seems like Nintneod hasn't made up their mind! ARGH! Both this and Elebits use the console's unified friend code, while Strikers will require a seperate individual friendcode different from the console one. Any guesses as to why?
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AHAH! NEW INFO??!?!?!?!?
Apparently, Mario Strikers Charged and all future online games will/can use CONSISTENT friend codes that are attached to MIIS, instead of being attached to games or consoles?!?!?
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Translated from French:
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And the Mii code, how's that work?
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Each Mii generates a Mii code that remains constant. This code will be used for all online titles in the future.
If so that seems a splendid compromise, and a way to get a friend's code, and only have to enter it once for all the games you wish to play together!!! (of course, this also means that Nintendo will have bumbled through a total of THREE different Wii online console-to-console pass systems) Hopefully this means that Nintendo will be able to have a standardized online system up, and that third parties can start adding online play to their titles as early as... this fall? (Oh let a fanboi dream won'cha?)
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I just spoke to Justin Dowdeswell on the phone and he clarified that his comments about Mii-specific codes related only to his game. He said that he never intended to comment on any other titles, nor would he know about how they implemented online features.
Fanboi dreams go up in dust! Such a familiar pre-Wii feeling of disappointment! Ahhh... feels all warm and cozy.
Post by: Adrock on May 24, 2007, 05:22:48 PM
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Huzzah? Seems like Nintneod hasn't made up their mind! ARGH! Both this and Elebits use the console's unified friend code, while Strikers will require a seperate individual friendcode different from the console one. Any guesses as to why?
My guess is that Nintneod deemed Friend Codes "safer" even if the alternative makes far more sense. I always figured that the Wii Console Number could be used, but Nintendo couldn't decide if they should use it or rely on Friend Codes again.
Sorry.
Post by: Kairon on May 24, 2007, 05:24:40 PM
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Post by: Spak-Spang on May 25, 2007, 03:18:18 AM
The point is that its possible. The technology is there not to force us to imput friend codes in all the time.
We should bombard Nintendo with requests to change the friend code system. I think a simple compromise would be for Nintendo to do a system upgrade that would allow parents with the parental code to select if they want games to force input of friend codes, or if it will input our list from our Wii friend list.
E3 is coming up soon, and if we can ask the reporters from our favorite game sites to all tell Reggie and everyone they interview our feelings on this perhaps we will get a change.
Post by: Requiem on May 25, 2007, 03:52:56 AM
IDK, just a guess.
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 25, 2007, 03:55:31 AM
It would not be a hassle for the game to input the Wii console friend codes, and if they don't have the game allow the user to delete them.
Personally, I would love a system that brings up an import menu that you can check list the Wii friends you want to import into a game.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 25, 2007, 05:48:59 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 25, 2007, 06:10:35 AM
Seriously, they need to get their sh*t together on this one.
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 25, 2007, 11:13:41 AM
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on May 27, 2007, 09:38:55 AM
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Originally posted by: Requiem
I think Strikers went with unique friend codes because not all your Wii friends have the game.
IDK, just a guess.
Well Requiem I have read somewhere on the internet that it said in the European Strikers manual that users will experience high lag if playing a player not from Europe or UK. If I recall correctly Europe is getting its own server for the game so my assumption is that the game has regional servers, so I'll go out on a limb and say that the only reason this game has its own friend code is that because the game doesn't have a global unified server for this game except regional servers.
Post by: Kairon on May 27, 2007, 12:36:03 PM
Apparently, Mario Strikers Charged and all future online games will/can use CONSISTENT friend codes that are attached to MIIS, instead of being attached to games or consoles?!?!?
If so that seems a splendid compromise, and a way to get a friend's code, and only have to enter it once for all the games you wish to play together!!!
Post by: IceCold on May 27, 2007, 01:48:43 PM
Post by: Adrock on May 27, 2007, 03:44:12 PM
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Apparently, Mario Strikers Charged and all future online games will/can use CONSISTENT friend codes that are attached to MIIS, instead of being attached to games or consoles?!?!?
If so that seems a splendid compromise, and a way to get a friend's code, and only have to enter it once for all the games you wish to play together!!!
Interesting. I hope it's true. It really seems too obvious to have not been implemented already.
Post by: WuTangTurtle on May 27, 2007, 05:34:41 PM
Post by: Plugabugz on May 27, 2007, 11:24:33 PM
Post by: IceCold on May 28, 2007, 12:25:36 PM
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 28, 2007, 07:23:30 PM
Post by: Nephilim on May 28, 2007, 09:26:18 PM
needs 2 friend codes
pretty simple logic
pokemon: battle revolution
1 vs 1
Needs 1 friend code
again simple logic
Its depends on the game
Post by: Plugabugz on May 28, 2007, 10:44:47 PM
I checked and each different mii gets a different friend code.
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 29, 2007, 05:22:28 AM
This sounds too good to be true. Are we sure the guy wasn't suggesting that using Miis as gamer accounts would make more sense than the current system?
After all, the current friend code system doesn't take into account the fact that the Wii is a family console and as such older gamers can swap friend codes and then a younger gamer could be lured away by some pedo when little Billy logs in and starts talking to people he doesn't know but recognize that the person talking is clearly young enough to be impressionable.
Post by: Kairon on May 29, 2007, 08:48:36 AM
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I just spoke to Justin Dowdeswell on the phone and he clarified that his comments about Mii-specific codes related only to his game. He said that he never intended to comment on any other titles, nor would he know about how they implemented online features.
Fanboi dreams go up in dust! Such a familiar pre-Wii feeling of disappointment! Ahhh... feels all warm and cozy.
Post by: Adrock on May 29, 2007, 08:56:58 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 29, 2007, 09:06:20 AM
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and I don't know about you guys but I'll take almost anything that's free.
There are lots of games I can buy and play online for free without any hassle, like Starcraft 2.
I'll buy those instead.
Post by: Adrock on May 29, 2007, 09:09:57 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 29, 2007, 09:15:08 AM
When I get a new game, the LAST thing I want to do is spend time adding friend codes for it. If I could have added those friend codes ahead of time, say, by using the Wii's internal friend code list, then I'd be playing against those people instead.
But the truth is, I'll probably have 5-10 people who want to be on my friend code list who I just won't bother adding because I already have enough opponents.
In terms of economic principles, I'd rather be playing the game than entering friend codes, but I'd enter friend codes if I didn't have the game to play.
There are a whole pile of Wii owners who probably added me to their Wii list (since I'm 2nd or 3rd on the list) who I haven't added because I just don't care to do so, and now even more, since I know that these friend codes are worthless for actual gaming anyway.
Post by: SixthAngel on May 29, 2007, 12:10:28 PM
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I'll probably be too busy playing it against random people on the internet to come back to NWR and keep readding more friend codes for the game.
When I get a new game, the LAST thing I want to do is spend time adding friend codes for it. If I could have added those friend codes ahead of time, say, by using the Wii's internal friend code list, then I'd be playing against those people instead.
But the truth is, I'll probably have 5-10 people who want to be on my friend code list who I just won't bother adding because I already have enough opponents.
In terms of economic principles, I'd rather be playing the game than entering friend codes, but I'd enter friend codes if I didn't have the game to play.
There are a whole pile of Wii owners who probably added me to their Wii list (since I'm 2nd or 3rd on the list) who I haven't added because I just don't care to do so, and now even more, since I know that these friend codes are worthless for actual gaming anyway.
So if you are playing against random people in Starcraft what is your problem with Wii online? It allows random matches with no codes. Instead of typing in their blizzard name for starcraft (or searching repeatedly for a friends game) you will type in the game friend code. The actual length of what you type in will probably be very similar. I like friend codes because they allow me to choose my username, I don't have to have numbers or stupid misspellings. The only bad part is that the friends don't carry over from game to game. If you use pc as a comparison though none of your names carry over from game to game. Honestly I don't play online with friends much but I don't see myself playing a game like BWii with the same people I would play ssbb with anyway. I never really saw this as some huge problem like other people seem to.
Post by: Kairon on May 29, 2007, 01:24:38 PM
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Dowsedell comments as they appear above were a translation of his original words done by this writer, which we should have made more clear. However, we feel our translation was accurate to the best of our knowledge. As it was written in the interview: Chaque Mii créé génère un code Mii qui reste invariable par la suite. Ce code servira donc pour tous les autres jeux jouables en ligne dans le futur.
We have contacted Dowsedell ourselves to learn that, indeed, he is not sure and was not speaking for how online will be handled with other games. "We're just aware of how we're handling Strikers stuff ... That's not to say it won't happen, but I'm not aware of that," he said to Joystiq via phone.
Bolding mine. Gotta keep the fanboi irrationality alive. That sort of crazy hype is in danger of going extinct amongst us Nintendo gamers.
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 30, 2007, 09:06:29 AM
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Originally posted by: SixthAngel So if you are playing against random people in Starcraft what is your problem with Wii online?
I can talk to the people in Starcraft, which is necessary for things like comp-stomps.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 30, 2007, 09:08:50 AM
