Post by: decoyman on April 26, 2007, 09:56:11 AM
Ken Kutaragi "retires" in June
Post by: Arbok on April 26, 2007, 10:19:37 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on April 26, 2007, 10:24:43 AM
Besides it ain't like he's broke. In a big corporation like this anyone who is forced to "retire" does so with a decent amount of financial insurance. It ain't like Ken is going to have to work McDonald's now to make a living. So he's an assh0le and he's helped ruin the Playstation name but he's rich so getting canned isn't exactly like when you or I get fired.
Post by: decoyman on April 26, 2007, 11:34:45 AM
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On one hand I'm all "high five" and the other I'm bummed. It should be good that an annoying idiot like Kuturagi is gone but at the same time it would be better for Sony's destruction if that numbo stayed on board. Ideally I should want Krazy Kenny to remain on board and further ruin the PS3's image with his insane comments.
It's funny because it's true
But think of all the good times ol' Ken's given us. I don't know that Kaz Hirai could ever surpass the legacy of whacked-out comments and general craziness that Kutaragi has dished out over the years.
In all seriousness... what do you really think was wrong with him? Was he senile? It seems like so many of his earlier decisions were so good, and so many of his latest ones... well... you know.
Post by: MLS_man_64 on April 26, 2007, 11:48:51 AM
(If he could find any to buy)
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Post by: Ian Sane on April 26, 2007, 01:00:04 PM
This isn't uncommon. Everyone thought George Lucas was a genius until we decided to try to remove the original Star Wars verisions from existence and made the prequels. Wrestling fans will know that Eric Bicshoff had some incredibly ideas in the hey-dey of WCW that resulted in WCW kicking the WWF's ass and then almost overnight a few dumb choices sent the company into a downward spiral. Glen Sather won five Stanley Cups coaching the Edmonton Oilers but for many years was considered a joke as GM of the New York Rangers until a few years ago when the Rangers finally made the playoffs again. Sometimes people slip or they can't handle change or they fluked out and never where that brilliant to begin with.
I think Ken's problem and Sony's in general is that as the Playstation became more successful they tried to push it to do more things and expand beyond gaming and went too far.
Post by: Djunknown on April 26, 2007, 01:48:09 PM
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Kaz will fill the CEO spot, while Ken will maintain "honorary" status as chairman of the group and will hang around with Sony CEO Howard Stringer, acting as senior technology adviser.
Sounds very similar to what Yamauchi is doing. Both men were very successful in kick starting their businesses but made some strange/odd decisions as time went on. Both are succeeded by more rational men.
Oh well. Can't blame him for what happens from here on out.
Post by: that Baby guy on April 26, 2007, 01:57:08 PM
I notice he isn't in the "prints money" picture.
Post by: Kairon on April 26, 2007, 02:27:16 PM
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Post by: S-U-P-E-R on April 26, 2007, 06:39:02 PM
hahahahahahahahahah
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I hope he likes his new "honorary" position they set up for him. That position being all fours.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 26, 2007, 09:11:23 PM
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Post by: S-U-P-E-R on April 27, 2007, 04:50:22 AM
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Iwata wants Ken working with Nintendo...w-t-f-!
haha link/quote plz!
Do they want him for his experience, corporate secrets, or...?
Post by: couchmonkey on April 27, 2007, 05:13:39 AM
Last night was just crazy for news, I'm still trying to process it all. I think Kutaragi had the right idea at the right time with the original Playstation, but as he tried to continue onward with his vision of a set-top box (he declared Microsoft Sony's main competition before Xbox had ever been announced) he lost track of what made Playstation really popular. Just because The Matrix was the top-selling PS2 title in March 2001 doesn't mean people want an all-in-one home entertainment machine.
I wish Crazy KK good luck in the future.
Post by: vudu on April 27, 2007, 07:03:12 AM
QuoteNintendo would love to add Kutaragi to their team
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Mr. Iwata has stated that he would love to see Kutaragi join up with Nintendo. Even though Ken is retiring, he will still hold an honorary position at Sony. Mr. Iwata then stated that honorary position may make it a little tough to work with him.
Post by: Pittbboi on April 27, 2007, 08:09:46 AM
The Kutaragi of today is, well...a screw up. But it can't be denied that he was a major force on Sony's team in his good ol' days. If Nintendo gave him a position with enough power to employ some of his good ideas, but not enough to force his bad ones, maybe him joining up with Nintendo could be a very good thing.
Let's see...Miyamoto's Personal Whipping Boy sounds like a nice starter position lol. But seriously, can you imagine what two great minds like Shigeru Miyamoto and (Pre-PS3) Ken Kutaragi could come up with in this day and age?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 27, 2007, 08:23:30 AM
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Mr. Iwata has stated that he would love to see Kutaragi join up with Nintendo. Even though Ken is retiring, he will still hold an honorary position at Sony. Mr. Iwata then stated that honorary position may make it a little tough to work with him.
OMG, I knew there was something going on between Sony and Nintendo. Now it all makes sense (kinda). Nintendo wanted the dominant position back after losing the initial bet with Sony that Sony couldn't make a successful home console. So Nintendo, turned to KK to work the inside angle and reverse position of each other consoles after the 10year clause of the bet was over. Nintendo needed Ken to do what was neccessary to amke sure that the PS3 wouldn't be a direct competitor to the Wii, and in return they would save him a lucrative position within the walls of Nintendo and a seat at the table in the house the Mario built. [/conspiracy theory]
Post by: that Baby guy on April 27, 2007, 08:30:37 AM
That said, I think several of Kutaragi's pressure came from difficulty handling all of the commands and requests put in for the PS3. I imagine Sony wanted a little too much from the PS3, and thought that if they had big mouths, they could defeat the 360 and Wii before the PS3 even launched, like what happened to the DC and the PS2. This time, they probably saw it wasn't working entirely, so the higher-ups kept putting pressure on Kutaragi to put better spin on their PR, and that eventually led to his downfall.
I think most people agree that when one part of Sony does something well, several other branches try to ride that one part's success, and it usually ends up ruining the original part. I think Kutaragi is probably a victim of this too, with Blu-ray, and perhaps Home, too.
Post by: Ian Sane on April 27, 2007, 12:36:36 PM
Nintendo probably could use some advice from within that went against the grain. But do you think Nintendo execs want to be told that their online setup is needlessly sucky or that any method they've ever had for distributing demos has just been outright WRONG? No. Only if they specifically thought that they needed some work and wanted someone to come in and shake things up would they go for it.
This isn't necessarily totally a Nintendo thing. Most big corporations probably don't like unrequested criticism either.
Post by: Aretak on April 27, 2007, 01:11:27 PM
Great article about the career of Kutaragi there. While he may have been a PR disaster, his overall positive contribution to the games industry as we know it cannot be questioned.
Post by: Djunknown on April 27, 2007, 04:47:01 PM
Norio Ohga was Kutaragi's Godfather so to speak. He was the one with the power to let Ken 'do his thing' and worked.
Nobuyuki Idei was Kutaragi's deadliest enemy. The way he played mind games and shuffled him around was pure, deviant, genius. And Ken took the bait hook, line, and sinker.
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His fall from grace has been rapid, shocking, and yet almost entirely of his own making; an engineer at heart, he was ill-equipped to deal with the executive world which he tried to conquer.
Oh so true.
David Jaffe should watch his back. They put the one man who got them to where they are today (good and bad) and has been effectively silenced. They'll do the same thing to him too if he's not careful...[/off topic]
Post by: Khushrenada on April 27, 2007, 05:00:07 PM
Frankly, I don't see Ken leaving because that could ruin his legacy. The Playstation line would most likely die. Although, that may yet still happen in the future yet.
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Post by: Shift Key on April 27, 2007, 06:23:16 PM
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Frankly, I don't see Ken leaving because that could ruin his legacy.
His first legacy ended once he became a public face for the PS2 and then his second legacy started: "Crazy Ken".
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 27, 2007, 08:16:57 PM
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Farewell, Father
Great article about the career of Kutaragi there. While he may have been a PR disaster, his overall positive contribution to the games industry as we know it cannot be questioned.
Oh wow, he created purty graphics hardware and turned the industry into a graphics over innovation race, I'm so impressed. His contribution to the gaming industry will be missed, he is easily above Miyamoto in creativity and revolutionizing the industry. I don't know what gaming will do without him? What will we do without all of Ken's innovations?
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Post by: Aretak on April 28, 2007, 01:48:35 AM
QuoteNobody said he was comparable to Miyamoto in any way, apart from you. However, the fact is that it's extremely unlikely Sony would be in the videogames business today if it weren't for Kutaragi. I'm sure you'd probably see that as a good thing, but for anyone who doesn't sleep in Nintendo pajamas the competition Sony have brought to the market can only be seen as good thing. Sony's success has certainly pressed Nintendo into doing more than they likely would have had their only competition been from the incompetent Sega.
Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenixQuoteOh wow, he created purty graphics hardware and turned the industry into a graphics over innovation race, I'm so impressed. His contribution to the gaming industry will be missed, he is easily above Miyamoto in creativity and revolutionizing the industry. I don't know what gaming will do without him? What will we do without all of Ken's innovations?
Originally posted by: Aretak
Farewell, Father
Great article about the career of Kutaragi there. While he may have been a PR disaster, his overall positive contribution to the games industry as we know it cannot be questioned.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 28, 2007, 03:06:24 AM
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Originally posted by: AretakQuoteNobody said he was comparable to Miyamoto in any way, apart from you. However, the fact is that it's extremely unlikely Sony would be in the videogames business today if it weren't for Kutaragi. I'm sure you'd probably see that as a good thing, but for anyone who doesn't sleep in Nintendo pajamas the competition Sony have brought to the market can only be seen as good thing. Sony's success has certainly pressed Nintendo into doing more than they likely would have had their only competition been from the incompetent Sega.
Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenixQuoteOh wow, he created purty graphics hardware and turned the industry into a graphics over innovation race, I'm so impressed. His contribution to the gaming industry will be missed, he is easily above Miyamoto in creativity and revolutionizing the industry. I don't know what gaming will do without him? What will we do without all of Ken's innovations?
Originally posted by: Aretak
Farewell, Father
Great article about the career of Kutaragi there. While he may have been a PR disaster, his overall positive contribution to the games industry as we know it cannot be questioned.
The only good thing Sony offered the industry was competition, they failed to innovate whatsoever, and instead relied on rehashing along with copying the competition. So what if Ken got them into the big fight, he still offered little in the way of moving the industry forward when it came to Sony's innovations. He pretty much shifted the industry into a graphics battle instead innovation, and perhaps did more harm in the long run (just look where it got them now losing over 1.2 billion dollars). As so many before him, he comes accross as someone who was at the right place at the right time (not to mention if this tinkering behind Sony's back is in fact true, he is DEFINATELY at the right place), and I don't doubt that someone else would have filled the void if Sony's didn't shove their techno focused hardware into the market.
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on April 28, 2007, 07:44:41 AM
laffo
Post by: Mario on April 28, 2007, 12:02:56 PM
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The only good thing Sony offered the industry was competition
and about 5000 games that wouldn't exist otherwise
Post by: Kairon on April 28, 2007, 12:13:33 PM
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 28, 2007, 12:57:05 PM
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The only good thing Sony offered the industry was competition
and about 5000 games that wouldn't exist otherwise
Like Kairon said, all Sony did was provide 3rd parties with an alternative system to develop for, Nintendo on the other hand had a key hand in making the NES/SNES (and in turn the gaming industry) a success through their creations. Let's face it, the main reason why Sony got anywhere is because Nintendo became cocky and arrogant, not only did they stick with carts, but their treatment of the 3rd parties was still pretty bad.
It is almost like Nintendo and Sony have switched roles, except IF Sony loses this round they will have a bigger uphill battle then Nintendo ever had because they just don't have the 1st party gaming talent or innovation to claw their way to the top and distinguish their brand. In addition, theyno longer have the luxury of being a top bidder all the time for 3rd parties, because MS is in the game as well. I think this generation is showing that brand name is nothing if you don't have the goods to back it up. Sony was riding high with PS1 and PS2 because they managed to take advantage of Nintendo's screw ups, putting the vast majority of their faith in 3rd parties. Now with 3 consoles out there, those 3rd parties can no longer be Sony's primary pull in the gaming market.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 28, 2007, 01:03:00 PM
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That wasn't Sony. That was third parties glad to have an alternative. Hence... competition. By merely being an alternative they contributed greatly to the industry.
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There already was an alternative, that was Sega. Even with their screwups it would have been interesting to see, how things would have been without Sony (Dare I say gaming may have been what it started as, which is about creative and innovative games, instead of who has the fancier hardware!).
Post by: Kairon on April 28, 2007, 01:16:18 PM
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That wasn't Sony. That was third parties glad to have an alternative. Hence... competition. By merely being an alternative they contributed greatly to the industry.
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There already was an alternative, that was Sega. Even with their screwups it would have been interesting to see, how things would have been without Sony (Dare I say gaming may have been what it started as, which is about creative and innovative games, instead of who has the fancier hardware!).
Sega was worse than Nintendo. If you think IanSane is bad now just imagine all the stuff he'd have to complain about as a Sega fan.
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Post by: Djunknown on April 28, 2007, 01:39:26 PM
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What will we do without all of Ken's innovations?
The sounds from the SNES wouldn't be as purty. It was so good that even the '32' bit GBA couldn't replicate all the sounds (See Mario Advance 2 and Mario Advance 3). The great scores from the FF Advance games had to gimped cuz that SPC7000 chip was just too good.
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There already was an alternative, that was Sega
I'm not going to play what-if since there are infinite scenarios but without Sony, 3rd parties would have had two choices: Get raped by Nintendo's licensing fees, or raped by the Sega Saturn's programming nature. Either way, get the K-Y ready, its still gonna hurt! And this is coming from a Sega fan...
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I don't doubt that someone else would have filled the void if Sony's didn't shove their techno focused hardware into the market.
Kutaragi was the only one with balls to try and take on Nintendo when they snubbed him/Sony in public. In public! Like I mentioned, I don't play what-if because of infinite outcomes; but the landscape of gaming would be drastically different than it is today if he just bent over and took it.
I don't think anyone here is going to put him on a level of other Japanese greats. It' be silly since they're mostly software guys(Yokoi Yunpei being the exception, and even then, only hard core fans drop his name in conversation). They only do what hardware allows them to do. But for hardware? He and Yunpei stand alone. The irony here is that they had polar opposite philosophies...
Post by: AwesomeMan on April 28, 2007, 02:08:48 PM
and he is responsible for possibly the best puzzle game made.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 28, 2007, 06:48:06 PM
P.S. Am I the only one that thinks it is sad that Ken's greatest innovation for the gaming industry was a good sound chip?
Post by: Kairon on April 28, 2007, 07:14:39 PM
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 28, 2007, 07:20:54 PM
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GoldenPhoenix, I think you're just THHIIIIIISS close to labeling all of us Kutaragi-Lovers!
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No I am not, you are all KEN KUTARAGI-LOVERs!
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 28, 2007, 08:08:29 PM
The only reason Sony succeeded with the PS1 was because a) optical media but really because of b) 3rd party devs hated Nintendo because Nintendo treated them like indentured servants. They'd go to any other hardware platform with a chance of success, so long as it wasn't Nintendo.
The PS2 succeeded for the same reason: dumb luck (aka GTA3) and Ken's looniness again went unnoticed.
Now that the PS3 is bombing like hell, people are looking for a reason, and Fruitbat Kutaragi's nutty little Kenisms seem like they could be the source of some of the problems so he gets called out for it.
So no, I don't think he deserves the praise, just like MS doesn't deserve their praise because the only reason they became as big as they did was due to the fact that someone reverse-engineered IBM's technology and MS decided to f*ck IBM over by also licensing DOS to all of the PC clones that popped up.
It's just a case of people being in the right place at the right time and they look successful as a result. Ken was shown for the fraud that he is. Now if only Balmer and the rest would follow suit. Then again, the xbox brand is $5 billion in the hole so it's hard to say they look "successful".
Post by: that Baby guy on April 28, 2007, 08:15:55 PM
Anyways, Kutaragi tried the same things this time about the 360, but people as a whole are now techno-savvy enough to realize that these claims were ludicrous. Either that, or money hats. Either way, the 360 has kept a much fiercer appearance than the DC did when Sony dogged on them.
Post by: Kairon on April 28, 2007, 09:16:22 PM
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Ken was shown for the fraud that he is. Now if only Balmer and the rest would follow suit.
*cough*
*ahem*
*too late*
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Post by: Caliban on April 29, 2007, 01:57:42 PM
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Post by: oohhboy on April 29, 2007, 03:09:24 PM
He lucked out with the PS1. The console was already made and needed only modifications to allow it to become a piece of standalone equipment. If Nintendo didn't back out of the deal, which would have been weird due t how compromised it was, the SNES CD addon would have crushed the Saturn. With the addon, the SNES would have become a video buffer and sound chip and the addon would do most of the grunt work besides mode 7. The multichip design of the Saturn was 10 years too early and the basic software engineering wasn't mature enough yet.
The PS2 was a horrible piece of engineering. So focused on the big numbers that the console "could" put out that he forgot what the numbers actually did. With the console war becoming "Presidential", Ken became the front man for the PS2. With the comment of "Toy story", it should have became apparent that something was wrong since it was unachivable and it was a lie. He might have believed in the lie, he didn't know anything about the software side of things. Everyone took the lie hook, line and sinker because we as a whole weren't that cynical back then. Clinton had kept the peace for pretty much a decade. Companies weren't in the habit of lying. 911 hasn't happened, Enron hasn't happened. Bush hadn't really happened.
The PS3 failed because no one took the lie anymore. People were done. PS1 was the FMV commericals. PS2 for the emotion promise. PS3 was the broken promise of everything. The insane comments, price, the actual graphical ability, development costs. From a straight flush to Junk in one day at E3.
Post by: Kairon on April 29, 2007, 04:04:02 PM
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The PS3 failed because no one took the lie anymore. People were done. PS1 was the FMV commericals. PS2 for the emotion promise. PS3 was the broken promise of everything. The insane comments, price, the actual graphical ability, development costs. From a straight flush to Junk in one day at E3.
You're already talking in past tense!
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Post by: UERD on April 29, 2007, 05:57:39 PM
A gaming console is really nothing but a tool- a paintbrush, a canvas, a sculpting tool. It's up to the developers to make use of that power and create compelling games. Just because I go from fifteen to twenty (or twenty thousand) tubes of oil paint on my pallet does not make me a better painter. Going from 10 to 100 different paints might allow me to better express my creative vision...going from 100,000 to 1,000,000 different tubes is not going to help any artist in real life. Sony's mistake was to lose the big picture and create a mile-high canvas with billions of little tubes of paint, sitting there for artists (game developers) to take advantage of. Eventually, you come to a point where more tools result in smaller increases in opportunity: you could theoretically do a lot with the resources (the PS3's hardware assets) at your disposal, but the resources aren't going to paint pictures (make compelling games) by themselves.
Post by: that Baby guy on April 29, 2007, 06:20:03 PM
Post by: Chozo Ghost on April 30, 2007, 06:57:54 AM
If that was his goal then the man is a genius.
Post by: that Baby guy on April 30, 2007, 08:42:50 AM
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Perhaps Ken Kutaragi is a closet Nintendo fanboy who was saddened that his company was driving them into the ground so he began doing everything he could (without being too obvious about it) to undermine Sony so Nintendo could rise to the top again.
If that was his goal then the man is a genius.
Yes, Nintendo was definitely being run into the ground, you know, with their billions of dollars of net worth, and their profit in all but one quarter when the Gamecube was their focused home console. I'm glad you know your stuff. Good thing Kutaragi saved them from that one quarter, or else, they might no have 145 games in development at this point, they might only have had 142 right now.
Post by: Ian Sane on April 30, 2007, 09:41:08 AM
If I was a Sega fan and this was a Sega site I wouldn't even be here. Sega pretty much no longer exists. They're Sammy.
The Playstation's success is largely due to Sony coming in at the right time (which was likely a fluke) and being competent at a time where the industry leaders were both f*cking up in a huge way. I'll give Sony full credit for not screwing up (sometimes in life that is worth praising) and thus taking advantage of the situation. But if Sega or Nintendo didn't screw up odds are they would have been number one because of the strong brand name.
The PS2 I see as an item where Sony and the gereral public wanted it to be different things and by luck the resulting product was sufficient enough to fulfill the public's wants. Sony was obviously going for some set-box kind of functionality and just happened to have great timing. They had the hype of being the market leader. The Dreamcast died shortly after the PS2 launch giving Sony almost a whole year of being the only current console before MS and Nintendo released their consoles. The timing of DVD playback was perfect as the public was just ready to adopt the new format. They also had GTA3, which was a total surprise hit as the previous games weren't A-list titles, as an exclusive.
The PS3 has flopped because it crossed the line where Sony's vision and what the public wants don't crossover. Once again they tried to push a new movie format but THIS time the timing wasn't there. With the PS2 people wanted a videogame system but just happened to like the PS2's extra features as well but they probably wouldn't have cared if DVD support was never there. The PS2 happened to be a good videogame system but that's not necessarily what Sony wanted it to be. The PS3 follows Sony's vision more closely and as a result the general public is not as interested.
Imagine two lines that at first appear parallel but actually one line is the slightest degree off and is actually moving away from the other line. At first it won't be noticable but over time the lines get significantly seperated. That's the Playstation brand and the public. At first they appear to be in sync but eventually break apart and do so by following the same paths they always did. The journey had crossover but in the end the goals were different.
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Post by: Ceric on April 30, 2007, 10:40:10 AM
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Imagine two lines that at first appear parallel but actually one line is the slightest degree off and is actually moving away from the other line. At first it won't be noticable but over time the lines get significantly seperated. That's the Playstation brand and the public. At first they appear to be in sync but eventually break apart and do so by following the same paths they always did. The journey had crossover but in the end the goals were different.
Thats a very well done analogy.
Post by: Shift Key on April 30, 2007, 12:57:15 PM
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In an exclusive interview with EE Times, Kutaragi said: "As a matter of course, I have the vision of Playstation 4, 5 and 6, which will merge into the network."
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The outgoing Sony executive said he will maintain an amicable relationship with Sony, but added that future projects will be largely independent of Sony.
That still gives a fair bit of weight to the "executives don't get fired, they get moved to a desk at the window with no real work to do" notion. Hell, that article just sounds like the same old Crazy Ken speak - grand claims from an engineer out of touch with reality.
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Post by: WuTangTurtle on April 30, 2007, 07:37:18 PM
glad its done, and shocked at the same time. Personally I could imagine Ken firing all the other head figures of the Playstation line, just to show who's the boss. Reminds me of another wacko Nintendo fanboys should be familiar with. A cookie for everyone who knows about who I'm referring to.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 30, 2007, 09:02:43 PM
Post by: Chozo Ghost on May 01, 2007, 03:48:28 AM
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Perhaps Ken Kutaragi is a closet Nintendo fanboy who was saddened that his company was driving them into the ground so he began doing everything he could (without being too obvious about it) to undermine Sony so Nintendo could rise to the top again.
If that was his goal then the man is a genius.
Yes, Nintendo was definitely being run into the ground, you know, with their billions of dollars of net worth, and their profit in all but one quarter when the Gamecube was their focused home console. I'm glad you know your stuff. Good thing Kutaragi saved them from that one quarter, or else, they might no have 145 games in development at this point, they might only have had 142 right now.
Hey, I was just being sarcastic in an attempt at humor. I was poking fun at all those who prophesized Nintendo's demise a few years ago.
Post by: Kairon on May 01, 2007, 05:44:49 AM
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In all honesty I wouldn't mind seeing Ken being added to Nintendo's hardware department, specifically designing the internal components of Nintendo's next system.
I would. Hardware and software are intensely related fields for Nintendo, and their relationship and symbiosis is one that Kutaragi has utterly FAILED to recognize.
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Post by: Arbok on May 01, 2007, 02:57:08 PM
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In all honesty I wouldn't mind seeing Ken being added to Nintendo's hardware department, specifically designing the internal components of Nintendo's next system.
As would I... if I didn't care about the eventual price of the system.
Post by: decoyman on May 03, 2007, 05:59:22 AM
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Originally posted by: WuTangTurtle
I'm too lazy to read all the posts but here's my two cents.....(literallly its only worth two cents)
glad its done, and shocked at the same time. Personally I could imagine Ken firing all the other head figures of the Playstation line, just to show who's the boss. Reminds me of another wacko Nintendo fanboys should be familiar with. A cookie for everyone who knows about who I'm referring to.
I'd like to know who this is...
(if you tell, could I still have a cookie?)
...uuunnnhhhh cookie gaahhhh....</drool>
Post by: UERD on May 04, 2007, 05:06:50 PM
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In all honesty I wouldn't mind seeing Ken being added to Nintendo's hardware department, specifically designing the internal components of Nintendo's next system.
I know it's Gamespot, but they had an article which mentioned that very scenario:
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6170115.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=newscallout&tag=newscallout;callout
Last paragraph:
"Iwata was also asked if Nintendo might hire Ken Kutaragi, Sony Computer Entertainment's ex-chairman and CEO, in light of his stepping down last week to "pursue other projects." "I don't think we will do that," Iwata said. "
