Post by: Smash_Brother on February 22, 2007, 07:37:56 AM
I recall we had a bevy of b*tches b*cthing up a b*tch storm about how the Wii was doomed to suffer horrible ports with shoddy graphics forever (even though EVERY console gets shoddy looking ports at the start of its life so it's nothing out of the ordinary...).
But Medal of Honor: Vanguard is only out on the PS2 and is coming for the Wii and yet, as you can see, the graphics (esp. lighting effects) look quite nice. If even a port-monger like EA is willing to actually put some effort into these games, then I think it's safe to say that b*tchfest 2007 can officially end.
God willing, Ubisoft will get the hint, especially since they're trying to beat EA.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on February 22, 2007, 07:42:11 AM
Looks neat!
Post by: WuTangTurtle on February 22, 2007, 08:23:24 AM
Post by: Pittbboi on February 22, 2007, 08:30:38 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 22, 2007, 08:47:35 AM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on February 22, 2007, 09:00:22 AM
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
Maybe it is just the computer but everything looked really dark and it was hard to analyze the graphics. From what I seen though looks good.
Had that same problem as well. It was too dark for me to analyze how good or bad the graphics were. The character models DID look rounder and there were more details.
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 22, 2007, 09:05:37 AM
The darkness is intentional, though: I think a large part of this game is going to be "Germans in the Dark", which should make for some pretty suspenseful gameplay, what with creeping through the darkness, wondering if someone has seen you or not, wondering if anyone is there...
Post by: Kairon on February 22, 2007, 09:06:16 AM
... that's a neat bonus. I was already resolved to buy the game, in fact, but it's nice to know that this time we won't have people turned off irrationally to what is hopefully a good experience like what happened with FarCry.
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 22, 2007, 09:53:51 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Yeah, it WAS dark, but there a couple shots there of environmentals where it seemed like the game's graphics really shined.
... that's a neat bonus. I was already resolved to buy the game, in fact, but it's nice to know that this time we won't have people turned off irrationally to what is hopefully a good experience like what happened with FarCry.
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Didn't help that the game was pretty bad as well
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 22, 2007, 09:53:54 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Yeah, it WAS dark, but there a couple shots there of environmentals where it seemed like the game's graphics really shined.
... that's a neat bonus. I was already resolved to buy the game, in fact, but it's nice to know that this time we won't have people turned off irrationally to what is hopefully a good experience like what happened with FarCry.
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Didn't help that the game was pretty bad as well
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Post by: Kairon on February 22, 2007, 09:59:56 AM
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Post by: Smash_Brother on February 22, 2007, 10:08:00 AM
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix Didn't help that the game was pretty bad as well
As your attorney, I have to advise you to refrain from inciting Kairon into what may result in a murderous frenzy.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 22, 2007, 10:22:19 AM
Post by: D_MaN87 on February 22, 2007, 11:25:27 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Yeah, it WAS dark, but there a couple shots there of environmentals where it seemed like the game's graphics really shined.
... that's a neat bonus. I was already resolved to buy the game, in fact, but it's nice to know that this time we won't have people turned off irrationally to what is hopefully a good experience like what happened with FarCry.
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
I had no problem with farcry (graphics aside), until the glitch came. I dont know about you, but in the level where there are like 4 sniper towers connected by bridges no matter what i did the game would just freeze before crossing the first bridge. Reading online forums showed me also that I was not the only one suffering from this problem. Id expect this from a PC game, but not a console game. If a patch ever shows up I may try it again. otherwise im not putting it in my wii again.
Post by: utarefsoN on February 22, 2007, 01:09:28 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 22, 2007, 01:18:29 PM
PoP: Rival Swords looks pretty damn nice as well. If Ubi keeps up graphical standards like these (and so does EA), lesser 3rd party devs will be forced to keep up just to maintain the status quo.
Though, it could be bullshot, as Ubi is renown for it.
Post by: King of Twitch on February 22, 2007, 02:03:55 PM
Post by: Deguello on February 22, 2007, 02:07:41 PM
It always looks like that.
Post by: King of Twitch on February 22, 2007, 02:22:05 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 22, 2007, 03:37:32 PM
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 22, 2007, 04:00:41 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 22, 2007, 04:28:55 PM
Post by: Adrock on February 23, 2007, 04:58:26 AM
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Smash_Brother wrote:
I recall we had a bevy of b*tches b*cthing up a b*tch storm about how the Wii was doomed to suffer horrible ports with shoddy graphics forever (even though EVERY console gets shoddy looking ports at the start of its life so it's nothing out of the ordinary...).
Wii will continue to get ports of last generation games as long as developers feel that they can make a quick buck. Sad, but true. Still, I wouldn't say it's a major problem even though it sucks. Wii will get the ass ports, but that won't be all it gets.
And for some reason, I can't seem to get the Medal of Honor trailer to work. I'm at school write now (obviously doing important college stuff), so I'll try again at home (where I will also do more important college stuff).
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 23, 2007, 05:10:55 AM
I just mean that big-name companies are starting to do what they can to make use of the system's graphical prowess instead of relegating the Wii to GC/PS2 graphics.
Thus, this should allay fears that devs will see Wii/PS2 in the same graphical category. Plus, like I said, when smaller devs see this, they're going to have to start working a bit harder.
Last gen, if you made an xbox game that looked like ass, your dev house would be harped on for it because the standards for graphics were set reasonably high for the console.
If the graphical standards for the Wii gradually creep upwards, we'll see far fewer "straight over" ports from lesser consoles because devs will be afraid that their games will be laughed at when compared to other games on the Wii.
Post by: ShyGuy on February 23, 2007, 07:34:56 AM
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Post by: Koekoenutt on March 07, 2007, 08:26:32 AM
Post by: ShyGuy on March 07, 2007, 09:46:19 AM
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Vanguard does, however, have its competitors beat in the area of a multiplayer mode. Call of Duty 3 lacked one entirely and Medal of Honor boasts a four-player split-screen option completely with traditional deathmatch, capture the flag and king of the hill game types. Unfortunately, the company was unable to showcase these modes during our presentation.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 07, 2007, 10:50:21 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 07, 2007, 11:02:06 AM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
Not onrine? Doesn't count.
You know EA has to have online kits by now, and probably have had for some time, so I can't imagine there being reason for it besides not wasting the money and energy into implementing it.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 07, 2007, 11:08:48 AM
other publishers are currently busy on their second wave, of which i'm more interested in (more like blindly hopeful about).
but really, i don't like the idea of my next next-gen shooter experience to take place in World War 2, AGAIN.
'Wish BWii would get out sooner.
Post by: Caliban on March 07, 2007, 03:14:22 PM
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenixQuote
Originally posted by: Professional 666
Not onrine? Doesn't count.
You know EA has to have online kits by now, and probably have had for some time, so I can't imagine there being reason for it besides not wasting the money and energy into implementing it.
I highly doubt we are going to see any third-party wii game with online multiplayer before the end of June of this current year, remember that pokemon battle revolution was anounced for June 25 as the first wifi wii game.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 07, 2007, 05:56:41 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on March 12, 2007, 05:38:13 AM
Post by: Koekoenutt on March 12, 2007, 08:19:06 AM
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Wii seems to be perfect for first person shooters and so far all of them had their special approach to the Wii-controller. How did you approach it?
Vanguard will take advantage of the Wii’s two-handed controls, using the nunchuk and the remote to make for a very unique, exciting and compelling shooter control system. Most of the movement-related controls – running, strafing, jumping, crouching, are executed with the nunchuk. There are gestures for jumping and crouching, as well as for reloading your weapon. A popular and really useful gesture is turning around 180 degrees, which is extremely useful when surrounded by the enemy, and even better in Multiplayer, where the player can whip around on someone trying to get you from behind.
Another important feature that has been added is the ability for players to customize and refine several aspects of the controls. We listened to the suggestions of our fans who wanted to be able to adjust the sensitivity of the remote pointer, depending on their preferences. Now, If the player wants a more controlled play experience, you can lock the reticle in the middle of the screen so your pointer only controls your view, as well as constrain the range of vertical movement.
Seems like EA put some more thought into the controls and listen to some feedback from other Wii FPS. I was really hoping for a FPS to do this type of control customization, so I think I'm definately going to pick this up when it comes out. I just hope you can turn the brightness up in the game a bit.
Post by: ShyGuy on March 26, 2007, 04:54:24 PM
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Post by: Kairon on March 27, 2007, 08:31:01 PM
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Post by: Smash_Brother on March 28, 2007, 05:11:57 AM
Wait until some more REAL publications review these games, as 1up is so obviously being paid by Sony after their recent attempts to downplay how asstacular the PS3 launch went in Europe and Australia.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 28, 2007, 07:41:30 AM
there goes Billy's legacy.
Post by: ShyGuy on March 28, 2007, 08:26:02 AM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 30, 2007, 05:35:40 PM
It seems that the curse of the Wii controls has struck again. I've been reading mixed reviews about it, including the ever so beloved "shoehorned" claims.
Do we have yet another case where the media is too hard on a Wii game or for once do we agree with the reviewers?
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 30, 2007, 07:11:14 PM
People bitched about Sonic: SR controls. I had no problem.
I'm going to take a shot in the dark and guess that I'm not going to have a problem with these controls either.
Post by: Kairon on March 30, 2007, 08:08:43 PM
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Post by: ShyGuy on March 31, 2007, 03:52:12 AM
Post by: 31 Flavas on March 31, 2007, 04:40:18 AM
QuoteMy problem with RedSteel's controls isn't that they feel "Shoehorned" or 'tacked on'. It's just that they aren't really accurate.
Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
People bitched about Red Steel controls. I had no problem.
It's difficult to perform any sword kata other then the first one, because the game just doesn't register your attack correctly. Otherwise, I like the wii mote control because I can play FPS type games again. I detest dual analog. I'd definitely buy a Red Steel 2. I just hope they'd tighten the controls.
Post by: MANTI5 on March 31, 2007, 07:44:09 AM
For me, nothing will ever replace a mouse and keyboard for a FPS and this game reafirms this, but the wii is the only console I could find myself enjoying one on.
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 31, 2007, 06:08:12 PM
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Originally posted by: 31 Flavas
It's difficult to perform any sword kata other then the first one, because the game just doesn't register your attack correctly. Otherwise, I like the wii mote control because I can play FPS type games again. I detest dual analog. I'd definitely buy a Red Steel 2. I just hope they'd tighten the controls.
Did you set it to long gestures? Once I went with long gestures, it worked fine, but in
To answer the other questions, I've played CoD3, Red Steel, FarCry and even Elebits so I've seen basically every FPS interface the Wii offers so far.
I'll let you know in comparison once I give it a try and I have a teenage friend for the teenage opinion as well.
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Originally posted by: MANTI5
MOH isn't that bad. The controls took some getting used to, and aiming isn't as smooth as I'd like, but it's been a decent rental. The graphics aren't anything special but the audio is pretty nice if you have a decent surround system.
For me, nothing will ever replace a mouse and keyboard for a FPS and this game reafirms this, but the wii is the only console I could find myself enjoying one on.
I actually prefer the Wii's controls to keyboard and mouse, specifically FarCry's because the ability to lock the screen with A and immediately shoot at one specific target.
Post by: Smoke39 on March 31, 2007, 06:27:57 PM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
Did you set it to long gestures? Once I went with long gestures, it worked fine
I tried both and couldn't tell the difference. There was just too much of a disjoint between my motions and the character's motions.
Post by: the1st_fret on April 01, 2007, 04:04:51 AM
Post by: MANTI5 on April 01, 2007, 07:20:37 AM
The aiming, though, is a bit laggy no matter how you adjust it. You just can't make quick movements like in a pc fps(can't say whether you can in other console fps because I just haven't played them.) and that was a pain. But once you get used to the slower style it's not bad. Not good either but a decent 1-2 night rental.
Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 01, 2007, 04:10:39 PM
Post by: Rhoq on April 07, 2007, 02:36:29 PM
Really the only complaint I have about this game (besides the fact that it's a WWII FPS) is what Brandogg had to say about the dips in the framerate. The game moves along just fine until either it starts to rain or there are multiple explosions going on around you. Once that happens you'd swear the game is running in some sort of hidden, slow motion mode.
Post by: Kairon on April 07, 2007, 02:44:32 PM
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Post by: Rhoq on April 08, 2007, 04:08:02 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
It's a feature, not a bug?
Of course it's a bug. I was only joking.
Post by: ShyGuy on April 15, 2007, 08:48:43 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on April 18, 2007, 06:36:51 AM
On the final level now, this game is very short. 8 hours max.
The graphics can, at times, look fantastic and then you look at the bland texture on your hand holding the gun. Uneven graphix = sloppy port
The sound is good but can get repetitive. "Take out that MG42!"
The gameplay is standard WWII shooter fare. The parachuting is fun, but only happens a few times. Levels feel a bit constrained sometimes with too few enemies, but that's what you get with a PS2 port OLOL
Controls are good and highly customizable.
I say rent this game. For $8 it's worth a couple nights play
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 18, 2007, 06:56:00 AM
Post by: ShyGuy on April 18, 2007, 08:52:39 AM
MOH Vanguard is like the two faced girl Jerry dated in that one episode of Seinfeld. Depending on the lighting it can look pretty or ugly.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 18, 2007, 08:56:58 AM
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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
Your mom looks purdy.
Was that a jab towards me?
If so, I wasn't aiming at anyone in my last post. I just find it funny that this thread is called "MOH looks purdy" when the actual impressions and reviews say that the graphics are a mixed bag at best.
Just pointing out irony here, people!
Post by: ShyGuy on April 18, 2007, 09:12:27 AM
I've never seen your mom, but I'm sure she's a lovely woman
Maybe we can get Smash to edit the title of the OP.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 18, 2007, 09:20:48 AM
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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
I was trying to complement
I've never seen your mom, but I'm sure she's a lovely woman
Maybe we can get Smash to edit the title of the OP.
My bad then. Its sometimes hard to tell whether someone is just playing around or being mean spirited.
I'll tell her you said that
.As for the thread, I realized that SB still owes you all impressions! I'm sure he is still dealing from the mid March flood of Wii games and hasn't gotten around to it :p .
