Post by: ryancoke on February 12, 2007, 03:34:48 AM
I can't believe that Mastodon didn't win best metal song. I was pulling for Tool in the hard rock catagory but I'm happy Wolfmother won.
Post by: nitsu niflheim on February 12, 2007, 08:56:20 AM
Post by: MaryJane on February 12, 2007, 10:17:26 AM
However, 10,000 Days did win a Grammy!!
It won (I don't know the exact name of the award but...) best packaging of the year!
The freaking case won a Grammy, but none of the songs did.
I've never heard of Mastodon, and I don't even know who won the awards for Metal, but "The Pot" (by Tool, on 10,000 Days) wouldv'e been my choice, it likely didn't even get nominated though, the majority of people(in "the business") don't know what good music is.
Post by: matt oz on February 12, 2007, 04:16:59 PM
With the exception of the 'Best New Artist' category, the Grammy awards are pretty much for mainstream, commercial artists, and not for creative achievement, as they claim to be.
There were only two categories I cared about: Best Rock Album, and Best Alternative Album. RHCP won Rock album, which was well-deserved. Yeah Yeah Yeahs lost in the Alternative category which was ridiculous. 'Show Your Bones' was one of the best albums of 2006.
I pretty much stopped watching the Grammys after Garbage lost 7 times from 1997-2000. That was hard to watch, and then their last two albums got no recognition which was especially sad.
Post by: Mario on February 12, 2007, 05:10:43 PM
I really like RHCP but I think John Mayer Trio - Try is a much better rock album than Stadium Arcadium but oh well, I wasn't too upset about that, just the Dixie Chicks winning and thanking their "songwriters".
Post by: Artimus on February 12, 2007, 05:12:50 PM
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The Dixie Chicks most certainly did not make the 'Album of the Year.' The super-liberal music industry is just rewarding them for the backlash after that chubby one made the Bush comment. (I think she's married to one of the Heroes).
There are actually people in the world who were bothered by that? I thought it was a farce like Scientology. Wow, never thought I'd meet one of you!
Post by: nitsu niflheim on February 13, 2007, 02:19:07 AM
Post by: Nick DiMola on February 13, 2007, 02:34:39 AM
Post by: Artimus on February 13, 2007, 05:58:54 AM
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I hated the Dixie Sluts before that Whore made those Anti-American comments on foreign soil, so hating them afterwards was no different.
I'm rolling in the aisles! LMAO
Post by: matt oz on February 13, 2007, 08:08:18 AM
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The Dixie Chicks most certainly did not make the 'Album of the Year.' The super-liberal music industry is just rewarding them for the backlash after that chubby one made the Bush comment. (I think she's married to one of the Heroes).
There are actually people in the world who were bothered by that? I thought it was a farce like Scientology. Wow, never thought I'd meet one of you!
I'm not sure what you mean.
I certainly wasn't bothered by what they said about Bush. And I wasn't bothered when their fanbase deserted them because that was an idiotic thing for a country singer to do.
I'm just bothered by all the sympathy they're getting for the back lash they got for the comment. Boo hoo, people burned your CDs, have some gold statues.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 13, 2007, 08:33:59 AM
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The Dixie Chicks most certainly did not make the 'Album of the Year.' The super-liberal music industry is just rewarding them for the backlash after that chubby one made the Bush comment. (I think she's married to one of the Heroes).
There are actually people in the world who were bothered by that? I thought it was a farce like Scientology. Wow, never thought I'd meet one of you!
I'm not sure what you mean.
I certainly wasn't bothered by what they said about Bush. And I wasn't bothered when their fanbase deserted them because that was an idiotic thing for a country singer to do.
I'm just bothered by all the sympathy they're getting for the back lash they got for the comment. Boo hoo, people burned your CDs, have some gold statues.
Even though I strongly disagreed with them, I agree with you, it didn't bother me. Personally I find it hilarious how singers/celebs spout their beliefs, acting like they, for some weird reason know more than the average person because they are celebs. I also found it ironic that they repeated they were expressing their freedom of speech, yet when people deserted them and even burnt their CDs that somehow wasn't freedom of speech and it was almost like they had no right to do it.
Post by: Artimus on February 13, 2007, 10:25:54 AM
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I'm not sure what you mean.
I certainly wasn't bothered by what they said about Bush. And I wasn't bothered when their fanbase deserted them because that was an idiotic thing for a country singer to do.
I'm just bothered by all the sympathy they're getting for the back lash they got for the comment. Boo hoo, people burned your CDs, have some gold statues.
I thought you thought they were idiots because they spoke out, sorry. Though I do think it's entirely debateable that it was the album of the year. Clearly it's not your taste (or mine, for that matter) but they've always been liked by the Grammys and the album was a critical and sales hit. There's not really a whole ton of other albums that stood out that much this year. They're as good a choice as any. The 'best' rarely ever wins. And, besides, the word 'best' isn't in the category title anyway.
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Even though I strongly disagreed with them, I agree with you, it didn't bother me. Personally I find it hilarious how singers/celebs spout their beliefs, acting like they, for some weird reason know more than the average person because they are celebs. I also found it ironic that they repeated they were expressing their freedom of speech, yet when people deserted them and even burnt their CDs that somehow wasn't freedom of speech and it was almost like they had no right to do it.
I don't think there's any indication they consider their beliefs better, or themselves more knowledgeable than the average person. The original comment was not made at a political rally. It was made a concert where they were talking to their fans. It's a joke if you didn't know about the ensuing controversy. I don't see why a musician, just because they're famous, can't make a joke to "friends" regardless of how many thousands there are present. She made a comment about her belief, to her friends/fans and there's no doubt she never expected to hear about it again. If it was meant as a political comment and some kind of lecture, she would've chosen a totally different venue.
And you've got the freedom of speech thing backwards. They've never once said people should stop burning their CDs or anything of the like. They've never said no one had the right to do so. The only issue of freedom of speech came up when music stations tried to censor them because of a political stance. People were calling for their heads and trying to silence them. Censoring someone and trying to prevent them from having a voice goes directly against freedom of speech. The Dixie Chicks never tried to silence anyone. The really absurd part, however, is that the people burning their CDs and condemning them for their opinions were doing so in the name of America. America supposedly being all about freedom. I mean, their comment was about a military action called "Iraqi Freedom." How could you not feel outraged at the hypocrisy of burning CDs and demanding they be kicked out of country music in that situation? I don't see how a sane person could not feel the backlash absurd.
But, really, did Justin Timberlake or Red Hot Chili Peppers need that Grammy anymore than the Dixie Chicks?
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 13, 2007, 12:51:40 PM
Post by: ryancoke on February 16, 2007, 03:16:23 AM
Viva Fidel!
Post by: nitsu niflheim on February 16, 2007, 05:55:09 AM
