Title: RE: Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: vudu on January 26, 2007, 07:09:01 AM
Quote Peter Moore, however, says it's the result of the company being conservative, in light of inventory build up at retailers
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the inventory build up due to the fact that Microsoft over shipped systems during Q4 so they could meet their projected 10 million units shipped by the end of the year?
Title: RE: Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 26, 2007, 07:15:16 AM
Maybe an analyst can answer that =D
Title: RE: Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: nitsu niflheim on January 26, 2007, 07:30:34 AM
I fully expect them to stop production next, until they start selling again. This seems like the same thing that Nintendo went through with the GCN.
Title: RE:Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on January 26, 2007, 07:44:20 AM
Quote Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim I fully expect them to stop production next, until they start selling again. This seems like the same thing that Nintendo went through with the GCN.
I think they will do that exactly but for the purpose of making the rumored zephr 360s with an HDMI port and the rumored 120GB hard drive.
Title: RE:Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: Ceric on January 26, 2007, 09:32:36 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Lord_die_seis
Quote Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim I fully expect them to stop production next, until they start selling again. This seems like the same thing that Nintendo went through with the GCN.
I think they will do that exactly but for the purpose of making the rumored zephr 360s with an HDMI port and the rumored 120GB hard drive.
Title: RE:Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: MaryJane on January 26, 2007, 10:34:09 AM
I also have to go with the thought that they're stopping production for the new model, X360's still sell fairly well for 2yrs into it's life, though they are seeing some backups.
Title: RE:Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: Louieturkey on January 26, 2007, 11:00:35 AM
Quote Originally posted by: MaryJane I also have to go with the thought that they're stopping production for the new model, X360's still sell fairly well for 2yrs into it's life, though they are seeing some backups.
FYI, it's 14 months into its life, not 2 years.
Title: RE:Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: MaryJane on January 27, 2007, 04:08:16 AM
hmmm I meant entering it's 2nd year, you know like I'm doing well for the 23rd year of my life, my b-day is august, but this is the 23rd year.
I guess I could have explained that better.
Title: RE: Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: King of Twitch on January 27, 2007, 05:45:48 PM
A certain IGN editor's 360 broke down again. Maybe he's not aware of Microsoft's long-standing reputation??
Title: RE: Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: KDR_11k on January 27, 2007, 06:50:28 PM
What, that their hardware is much better than their software?
Title: RE: Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 28, 2007, 07:27:30 AM
Nice double burn KDR.
In one sentence you destory MS reputation with hardware and software.
Title: RE: Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: KDR_11k on January 28, 2007, 09:21:02 AM
The sad thing is that the rest of their hardware (keyboards, mice, joysticks and joypads) actually have a good reputation.
Title: RE: Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: couchmonkey on January 29, 2007, 03:38:32 AM
I really feel that 360 needs a price drop, but I guess Microsoft is trying to take advantage of 360's newfound profitability as long as possible. Also, a price drop now might let Sony get the drop on MS at Christmas time, but it seems like MS is losing its chance to kick 'em while they're down. Maybe pack-in of some major game instead of a price drop?
Title: RE: Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: KDR_11k on January 29, 2007, 04:04:16 AM
I think MS doesn't see a pricedrop as necessary yet. Maybe if the PS3 started impacting their sales. BTW, the PS3 will be available only in the 600€ version here.
Title: RE:Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 29, 2007, 05:23:01 AM
Quote Originally posted by: couchmonkey I really feel that 360 needs a price drop, but I guess Microsoft is trying to take advantage of 360's newfound profitability as long as possible. Also, a price drop now might let Sony get the drop on MS at Christmas time, but it seems like MS is losing its chance to kick 'em while they're down. Maybe pack-in of some major game instead of a price drop?
See, I believe Microsoft is waiting until it can release the better Xbox 360 with a cheaper price. And I expect that price to be around $50-75 less than the premium Xbox package. This would really threaten Nintendo.
Which is why I stated in another thread I believe Nintendo will be selling the Wii for $150.00 by Christmas 2007.
Nintendo wants this system cheap...and is already making money off of its success. Once components for the system get cheaper then a price drop will occur...and I believe it will be a significant price drop. If the Xbox 360 is priced at around $325.00-$350.00 December 2007, a $199-$240.00 Wii doesn't look as good of a deal. But a $150.00 Wii looks like a steal.
I believe this will happen. As much as I believe that the Virtual Console games will get a price adjustment around the holiday season.
I also believe Ceric's concept that Nintendo is using the Wii as a tester system, and will release a new console in 3-4 years basically a fully HD compatible Wii. I however believe Gamecube games will still be backwards compatible.
Title: RE:Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: Nephilim on January 29, 2007, 05:33:42 AM
Quote Originally posted by: couchmonkey I really feel that 360 needs a price drop, but I guess Microsoft is trying to take advantage of 360's newfound profitability as long as possible. Also, a price drop now might let Sony get the drop on MS at Christmas time, but it seems like MS is losing its chance to kick 'em while they're down. Maybe pack-in of some major game instead of a price drop?
It already has in australia a few places sell the budget version for 380, which is cheaper then a wii (400) ironic and sad
offtopic: makes me wonder if i should of just waited for wii pricedrop and for gc zelda, since my wii is now getting dust and there are a dozen off 360 games I want to play/hire
Title: RE: Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: Kairon on January 29, 2007, 05:35:57 AM
MS should pack in Rare's sales-disappointments. They're decent games and are less likely to be criticized if they come bundled. Plus, they're the type of games that potentially expand audience: Pack-in Kameo, pack-in Viva Pinata anyone?
~Carmine "cai" M. Red Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: Ceric on January 29, 2007, 06:33:00 AM
Quote Originally posted by: KDR_11k The sad thing is that the rest of their hardware (keyboards, mice, joysticks and joypads) actually have a good reputation.
Yes, besides some of their wireless offerings, I've found that every piece of hardware I've ever owned that was designed and made by Microsoft is solid and reliable. I've never owned any of the Game Consoles but I have owned a variety of Mice and keyboards, the newest top-of-the-line ergonomic keyboard is great. Also if I did have problems they respond quickly.
I hear the t Viva Pinata is really good. Also I've seen a regular priced Premium XBox 360 packed in with this years Madden. In recap, If the new revision is the same price as the Premium now or cheaper and comes with Viva Pinata I probably try to pick that up.
Title: RE: Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: Kairon on January 29, 2007, 08:45:02 AM
After reading the horror stories of people being on their third or fifth X360s, I wonder if MS includes those repeat consoles in their numbers...
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 29, 2007, 05:14:13 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Kairon After reading the horror stories of people being on their third or fifth X360s, I wonder if MS includes those repeat consoles in their numbers...
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red Kairon@aol.com
Did Sony....!?
Did someone say PS2? 100 Million shipped!!! How come the software #'s don't support that though?
Why do you think they report their #'s as shipped and not sold? Because they also had to ship out replacements, and since they were produced and shipped they might as well be counted.
Title: RE: Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: Kairon on January 29, 2007, 05:59:49 PM
Matt from IGN is on his 5th X360 for example.
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: IceCold on January 29, 2007, 06:56:44 PM
That's just ridiculous.
Title: RE: Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 29, 2007, 08:17:07 PM
People should just give up videogames when the 3rd console calls it quits.
Title: RE:Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: Smash_Brother on January 30, 2007, 06:00:09 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Kairon Matt from IGN is on his 5th X360 for example.
Umm, wow...
If I was on my 2nd Wii, I'd already have Nintendo gradually creeping up my sh*t list. 5th is OUT of the question...
Title: RE: Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: KDR_11k on January 30, 2007, 06:50:03 AM
Dunno, as long as I'd get free replacements...
Title: RE:Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: Ceric on January 30, 2007, 07:09:36 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
Quote Originally posted by: Kairon Matt from IGN is on his 5th X360 for example.
Umm, wow...
If I was on my 2nd Wii, I'd already have Nintendo gradually creeping up my sh*t list. 5th is OUT of the question...
I'm on my Second Wii. Ironically, it released, mine broke, got a new one at Thanksgiving from Nintendo.
Title: RE: Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: Smash_Brother on January 30, 2007, 09:56:51 AM
I said "gradually". One is forgivable, especially at the very launch of the console, but if the next Wii went dead, they'd shoot exponentially higher.
Still, they're the only current viable choice for a game console right now...
Title: RE: Microsoft Reduces Shipment Targets for June
Post by: couchmonkey on January 31, 2007, 04:04:11 AM
Yeah, as long as MS keeps replacing it for free, then break-downs are a major inconvenience, but I wouldn't give up on the system. But if I was paying every time, even just $30 for shipping or whatever, I'd probably give up after the third time.
I'm sure MS and Sony include borked ones in their numbers, that's why you say "shipped". It includes anything that left your warehouse. To be fair, a lot of the broken ones probably get refurbished, but then maybe that's why some people are going through five or six - they're getting half-fixed ones in return.