Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on January 24, 2007, 12:30:05 PM
While many genres seem like a perfect fit for the Wii remote, fighting games are a bit harder to translate, with their dependency on button combos and precise movement. Ed Boon and Midway are looking to dispel any concerns you have with Mortal Kombat Armageddon, however, and if the final product is as good as Boon’s recent presentation, (seen below) Wii owners can count on a faithful rendition.
First off, if you’re wary of using the Remote + Nunchuck combo, Armageddon will be compatible with GameCube and Classic Controllers. If you’re willing to take the plunge, though, you’ll be in for quite an experience – all of the game’s special moves are now mapped to simple gestures. For example, to perform Scorpion’s signature spear move, you have to flick backwards, and then quickly forwards. Similarly, you’ll only have to flick down, and then up to execute a teleport with various characters.
You can also expect to use gestures in Armageddon’s Kreate-A-Fatality feature. Boon’s example (once again using Scorpion), was composed mostly of short, intuitive motions – it appears easy enough to remember. Through these actions, you’ll be able to do anything from unsheathe a sword to kicking your opponent in his Nether-realm.
Unfortunately, online play was not discussed, so there’s still no telling if the Wii version will include the feature. Stay tuned to Nintendo World Report as more on this game is revealed.
Post by: thepoga on January 24, 2007, 12:59:31 PM
Post by: Djunknown on January 24, 2007, 01:37:10 PM
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First off, if you’re wary of using the Remote + Nunchuck combo, Armageddon will be compatible with GameCube and Classic Controllers.
Bolding Obviously mine.
I saw this bit at Gamespot and thought that Ed Boon was mistaken. Gamecube controls on a Wii Game? Didn't Nintendo say that wasn't possible?
Then this got me thinking: Zelda TWP for the Wii could have had traditional controls if they wanted to. But then there would be absolutely no reason to go foward with the 'Cube version. It would have been the end-all version (sans left-handedness). Might as well double dip, right? The upcoming Fire Emblem could easily use 'Cube controls instead of using an unintuitive Wiimote tethered to the classic controller. So either:
A)Nintendo's own internal teams are stupid.
B)The people at Midway are effing geniuses.
C)Typical Nintendo oversight. They could have easily made a wireless classic controller with the same style, just use the GCN ports.
I'd rather stick with my Wavebird where I only change batteries twice a year as opposed to changing batteries on my Wiimote bi-weekly. (None of this 'Your're cheap, buy rechargeable batteries crap'. Nintendo says on their warning labels not to use NiMH batteries to avoid leakage. Excuse me for actually heeding this.)
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Unfortunately, online play was not discussed, so there’s still no telling if the Wii version will include the feature.
This goes back to my question in NWR podcast 33. Why don't the big 3rd parties get started going on-line, let Nintendo play-catch up? The user-base is there. Virtua Fighter 5, Tekken 6, and most likely Soul Calibur IV aren't going to grace the Wii, with online to boot. But as the NWR hosts graciously answered, the 3rd parties need to look to Nintendo to see how its done.
I'm not the biggest MK fan in the world, but I'd snap this without hesitation if online play was added. Midway wouldn't have any worries about competition from real other fighting games. Its a shame an opportunity will be missed because Nintendo wasn't ready. Plus if Midway could get this online (3d fighter), SSB Brawl (2d fighter?) shouldn't be too much of problem.
*Cue Nintendo apologists*
Post by: Blue Plant on January 24, 2007, 01:47:19 PM
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Originally posted by: Djunknown
I saw this bit at Gamespot and thought that Ed Boon was mistaken. Gamecube controls on a Wii Game? Didn't Nintendo say that wasn't possible?
I'm pretty sure Smash Bros. Brawl will be using the Gamecube controller as an option, so I doubt that was the reason for the Wii TP.
Post by: that Baby guy on January 24, 2007, 01:52:52 PM
BTW, ever since E3, the un-official report on GC controllers used on Wii games has been bright. This was answered by SSB:B, when they said that it would be made for use by a Gamecube controller.
Post by: Smoke39 on January 24, 2007, 02:16:48 PM
Anyway, the Wii controls actually looked pretty good in that video. It'll be interesting to see how well it works in actual, fast-paced combat, though it's nice to know classic controls will be available as a failsafe.
Post by: Ceric on January 24, 2007, 02:37:42 PM
Post by: Bloodworth on January 24, 2007, 02:40:28 PM
Djunknown, the battery leakage concern is completely antiquated. If you buy disposables, you're just creating a lot of unnecessary waste. I won't be surprised whenever someone decides to outright ban single-use batteries.
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on January 24, 2007, 05:30:55 PM
Post by: Djunknown on January 24, 2007, 05:47:13 PM
On topic, the controls look promising. Though I wonder how they will handle the rest of cast...
Double checked the interview they did here.. No online.
Still worth a rent though.
Bloodworth: That allays my paranoia of battery acid trickling on my hands. But I'm still a cheapass
Post by: Smoke39 on January 24, 2007, 06:50:36 PM
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Originally posted by: Djunknown
Bloodworth: That allays my paranoia of battery acid trickling on my hands. But I'm still a cheapass
How is buying two rechargable AAs once per remote more expensive than two normal AAs every other week per remote?
Post by: KDR_11k on January 24, 2007, 11:59:10 PM
Post by: Nick DiMola on January 25, 2007, 12:46:12 AM
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on January 25, 2007, 02:11:05 AM
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Originally posted by: Djunknown
I'd rather stick with my Wavebird where I only change batteries twice a year as opposed to changing batteries on my Wiimote bi-weekly. (None of this 'Your're cheap, buy rechargeable batteries crap'. Nintendo says on their warning labels not to use NiMH batteries to avoid leakage. Excuse me for actually heeding this.)
I used to wonder about the warnings not to use rechargeable batteries, too, but Nintendo's support site contradicts the manual's warning:
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If you would like to use rechargeable batteries, the only type of battery recommended are Nickel Metal Hydride batteries. When it comes to using rechargeable batteries, you must follow manufacturer guidelines for safety and proper usage. Failure to do so could cause damage to the Wii Remote and void the warranty.
Post by: KDR_11k on January 25, 2007, 02:43:37 AM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 25, 2007, 01:30:09 PM
I wonder if they will use motion controls for the Fatalities...
EDIT: Just saw the fatalities.
Has anyone realized by watching the videos that the Wii might make fighters VERY easy to learn and play!
I mean, one of SB's complains about Street fighter 2 is that the game forces you to memorize lots of button patters and motions. In my case, I've always had problems trying to do the Fatalities since I could never remember the combination.
The Wii, however, turns long and annoying button combinations into simple movements.
I hope the controls are good on MK Armageddon and other developers learn from it.
Post by: IceCold on January 25, 2007, 02:44:15 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 25, 2007, 04:23:40 PM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
Apparently Dragon Ball Z turned out really well, and it was a PS2 port.. this was one genre I was worried about, but it looks like it'll be just fine..
I've heard from some of my friends that the controls take a while to get used to, but are quite good and makes it so that it feels like you ARE the character performing the moves.
Post by: Infernal Monkey on January 25, 2007, 10:52:45 PM
I'm not a fan of Midway's ultra lazy dumping ground attitude towards the Wii. It's not really much of a step up from them totally ignoring GC and now DS. I can see this selling like rubbish, and it'll deserve it.
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on January 26, 2007, 07:35:12 AM
Post by: vudu on January 26, 2007, 07:47:05 AM
QuoteI don't believe you; I'm still waiting for the Battle for New York review.
Originally posted by: ViewtifulGamer
I'm playing through Budokai Tenkaichi 2 now for review.
