Post by: ShreddersDojo on January 16, 2007, 02:39:37 AM
So, where's the sequal?
Post by: Mario on January 16, 2007, 03:23:42 AM
Post by: Pale on January 16, 2007, 03:56:15 AM
Post by: Strell on January 16, 2007, 04:45:48 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on January 16, 2007, 04:51:04 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 16, 2007, 05:29:57 AM
QuoteIf thats the case, then I can't wait for NSMB3, NSMWorld and NSM64.
Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Considering that New Super Mario Bros was a lot like a souped up version of Super Mario Bros I wonder if NSMB2 would be a souped up version of Super Mario Bros 2 with Shyguys and throwing vegatables and such.
Post by: Khushrenada on January 16, 2007, 06:45:43 AM
Soooooooo, we're going to be throwing vegatables at Koopalings on Dinosaur Island during a dream. Can't wait for the epic clash between Wart and Bowser.
Still makes me wonder about NSMB 3 which will combine Super Mario Brothers 3 and Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island. It boggles the mind.
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 16, 2007, 07:27:15 AM
If another New Super Mario Brothers game was created. I think it would be best to start with a souped up version of Mario 2. That game is one of the more unique Mario experiences, and I believe that the game play mechanics within that game never met their full potential. Which means the experience would be awesome.
Though I would suggest since Mario 2 would be full of Birdos and other less typical Mario villians, that Yoshi might be able to find a place in this game. But, I wouldn't want egg tossing Yoshi, but the more traditional Yoshi from Mario World.
Finally, New Super Mario 3 should be saved either for the Nintendo Portable system...or created specifically for the Wii. As that game needs to be amazing...and I would suggest sprites for that game instead of 3D models.
Post by: Arbok on January 16, 2007, 08:21:37 AM
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
If another New Super Mario Brothers game was created. I think it would be best to start with a souped up version of Mario 2. That game is one of the more unique Mario experiences, and I believe that the game play mechanics within that game never met their full potential. Which means the experience would be awesome.
I'd kill for that, really. I loved #2 as a kid, and would love to see a new game in that vein... of course, it still must include the ability to play as four different characters.
Post by: IceCold on January 16, 2007, 08:26:58 AM
And yeah, I'd love for this game to come out. I don't quite understand how NSMB is a "souped up" version of the original - it added a lot, and was distinct to me. I actually liked that it focused more on platforming than on the powerups, but NSMB2 could be the opposite.
I liked the 3D models, but I wouldn't mind if they went back to sprites..
Post by: Terranigma Freak on January 16, 2007, 08:33:07 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 16, 2007, 08:43:48 AM
Well Super Mario Brothers 2 isn't even a real Mario game in Japan, so hopefully they just skip it and move onto Super Mario 3...
(Super Mario World would be fine too!)
Post by: Ian Sane on January 16, 2007, 09:43:26 AM
I actually would find that rather uninteresting. NSMB has a lot of the gameplay tweaks added in SMB3 in it anyway so using that as a basis for a sequel wouldn't be very similar. A return to the SMB2 style at least would be more unique and different.
Personally I would rather they just make a new Mario game for the DS that doesn't specifically reference an earlier Mario title and doesn't play things as safe as NSMB did. But if they do continue in the direction they're going in a NSMB2 would be what I would want the most.
Plus if you go by "in Japan it's like this" then the next game would be based on Lost Levels, and thus would be a boring rehash. Besides isn't Mario 2 called Super Mario USA in Japan and is pretty much now an "official" Mario game?
Post by: segagamer12 on January 16, 2007, 10:15:42 AM
Post by: Arbok on January 16, 2007, 10:29:33 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Plus if you go by "in Japan it's like this" then the next game would be based on Lost Levels, and thus would be a boring rehash. Besides isn't Mario 2 called Super Mario USA in Japan and is pretty much now an "official" Mario game?
Considering Shyguys and Birdo are in everything from Super Mario RPG to the Mario Sports titles... I would say that's a safe assumption.
Its contributions are many to the Mario universe, but besides characters there are also dynamics like Peach's "floating jump" and the turnips which made it into Smash Bros Melee.Besides, official or not, it was re-released on the GBA anyway in Japan as the first Mario Advance. So it's clearly loved enough by the masses, even if not to the same degree as 3 or World was.
Post by: segagamer12 on January 16, 2007, 12:58:35 PM
Post by: Artimus on January 16, 2007, 01:48:34 PM
Post by: Mario on January 16, 2007, 05:40:01 PM
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 17, 2007, 01:55:38 AM
Playable Characters:
Mario, Luigi, Princess, Wario, and Yoshi
Mario Average character
Luigi High Jumper
Princess Floater
Wario Can take more hits and is stronger
Yoshi Odd ball character...plays like Yoshi, but with more restricted controls for the SMB2 format.
The game has 3 ACTS. One with levels leading up to fighting Wart, then a set of traditional Mario levels with Bowser, and ACT 3 would be a surreal combination of Traditional Mario and SMB2 blended games with the final Boss being Wart and Bowser at the same time.
Additional powers could be: Aiming and throwing items in at least 4 directions possible 8.
Double and Triple Jumps
And I sure there could be much, much more.
Post by: couchmonkey on January 17, 2007, 02:06:57 AM
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Originally posted by: Artimus
I wish they'd just drop the new crap and make Super Mario Planet or Super Mario Bros. 4. Make something totally fresh and new for 2D Mario.
It was called Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island.
But I agree, I'd like to see another different Mario game. I'd also like to see the super-duper ultimate Super Mario Bros/World sequel that everyone's always asking for (the one with 20 animal costumes and 500 levels and all the monsters from all the games, EVER) but I don't think we're going to get it.I think a New SMB sequel would actually be a very safe, straightforward update of the first one. Maybe we'd see flying or Yoshis or flying Yoshis added, but I think the point of the original game was to go back to the basics so that anyone could pick it up easily, not just Mario fans.
Post by: MarioAllStar on January 17, 2007, 03:21:34 AM
Post by: MarioAllStar on January 17, 2007, 03:21:39 AM
Post by: jakeOSX on January 17, 2007, 03:28:52 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on January 17, 2007, 04:54:48 AM
YES! Everyone wants this, even if they don't think they do.
One thing I always thought would be cool would be to combine the gameplay of both Mario 2 and the other Mario games in that some enemies are killed by jumping on and some enemies are like in Mario 2 where you stand on them and can throw them. I think that would really shake things up.
Post by: JonLeung on January 17, 2007, 05:35:38 AM
QuoteLooking at the recently completed maps of all of the Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3
Originally posted by: Ian Sane
One thing I always thought would be cool would be to combine the gameplay of both Mario 2 and the other Mario games in that some enemies are killed by jumping on and some enemies are like in Mario 2 where you stand on them and can throw them. I think that would really shake things up.
e-Reader stages (World e+) (contributed to my site by Peardian), it looks like that was already attempted. Some stages (such as World e+ - Area 3 - Vegetable Volley) have turnips, and some have SMB2-style keys. Some stages also have enemies (like Charging Chucks, Wigglers, Dry Beetles, Big Boo, etc.) and items (item bubbles, item roulette blocks, extending blocks, triangular wall dash blocks) that originally came from Super Mario World. Poison Mushrooms from The Lost Levels, and pinball flipper doors from Yoshi's Island, as well. And other things I neglected to mention from these other Mario games.
Too bad the e-Reader wasn't so hot. Those semi-original (and challenging, from the looks of some of them) stages could almost be a sizeable fraction of a new 2D Mario game.
Post by: Ian Sane on January 17, 2007, 09:07:23 AM
Maybe they'll be nice and some time release them on the VC. Or release a Mario Rarities game on the DS that includes all these levels and any of the unique content in Vs. Super Mario Bros, Super Mario Bros. Special and, hell, the Mario related Game & Watch games. They could also include Japan-only stuff like Wrecking Crew '98 and Mario Excitebike. One could probably easily scrap together enough obscure Mario content to charge full price for it.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 17, 2007, 09:08:52 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
World e+ looks so cool it pisses me off that Nintendo chose to release it in such an obscure format that most people justifiably wanted nothing to do with. What a waste.
Maybe they'll be nice and some time release them on the VC. Or release a Mario Rarities game on the DS that includes all these levels and any of the unique content in Vs. Super Mario Bros, Super Mario Bros. Special and, hell, the Mario related Game & Watch games. They could also include Japan-only stuff like Wrecking Crew '98 and Mario Excitebike. One could probably easily scrap together enough obscure Mario content to charge full price for it.
Personally I am hoping they include the unreleased (and released) bonus levels in the Players Choice edition of SMB3 for GBA, but we know that will probaly never happen.
Post by: Ian Sane on January 17, 2007, 11:06:42 AM
What won't happen? The extra levels being included or Nintendo releasing anymore GBA Players Choice titles?
Maybe I can obtain these levels via the e-word. If Nintendo asks that means "e-Reader".
Post by: RiskyChris on January 17, 2007, 01:27:30 PM
./fake
Nintendo Co. LTD announces NSMB2 for Japan releasing this Fall, features impossibly intricate puzzles. The Western audience is to receive a retooled version of Brain Age with floating Mario head a la Super Mario 64. Americans r dum.
Post by: Darkheart on January 18, 2007, 11:57:41 AM
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
New Super Mario Brothers 2
Playable Characters:
Mario, Luigi, Princess, Wario, and Yoshi
Mario Average character
Luigi High Jumper
Princess Floater
Wario Can take more hits and is stronger
Yoshi Odd ball character...plays like Yoshi, but with more restricted controls for the SMB2 format.
The game has 3 ACTS. One with levels leading up to fighting Wart, then a set of traditional Mario levels with Bowser, and ACT 3 would be a surreal combination of Traditional Mario and SMB2 blended games with the final Boss being Wart and Bowser at the same time.
Additional powers could be: Aiming and throwing items in at least 4 directions possible 8.
Double and Triple Jumps
And I sure there could be much, much more.
OH HELL NO! You just did NOT take out Toad out of the Super Mario 2 formula. Peach and Toad FTW~!
Post by: King of Twitch on January 20, 2007, 07:19:18 PM
Post by: ryancoke on January 29, 2007, 10:08:32 AM
That would be sweet
Post by: Adrock on January 29, 2007, 10:26:28 AM
And a new 2D Mario with selectable characters has always been a fanboy dream of mine. That'd would be so awesome.
And as darkheart said, you can't get rid of Toad. I also wouldn't want Yoshi to be his own character. He should still have his crazy hover jump and ability to shoot eggs out of his ass, but you ride him (I couldn't think of a way to phrase that in a non-sexual way). There's nothing more satisfying than jettisoning Yoshi to save yourself. Watching him calmy descend into lava in SMW was hilarious.
Post by: Artimus on January 29, 2007, 10:30:19 AM
Post by: Adrock on January 29, 2007, 10:55:41 AM
While I plan on getting Super Paper Mario, it's not exactly what I'm looking for. I'm not getting into it because Spak-Spang did a good enough job describing the ultimate 2D Mario side-scroller besides omitting Toad.
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 29, 2007, 11:57:57 AM
We can replace Wario back with Toad...or add both of them in...but each character needs to be different enough to warrant using in different levels.
Post by: ryancoke on January 30, 2007, 07:00:20 AM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on January 30, 2007, 07:02:43 AM
Post by: Nephilim on January 30, 2007, 05:00:45 PM
instead of flowers, u pick up cut leaf's and shot resengan's
luigi has specail eyes, and hates his big brother laluigi
daisy is useless but has healing items
ect.
Post by: KDR_11k on January 31, 2007, 03:17:00 AM
And instead of a castle you go to a fur con...
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 31, 2007, 03:30:25 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 31, 2007, 05:11:27 AM
New Mario 3.
I would incorporate more suits that turned Mario into similar enemies.
Frog Suit is a must
Tanuki Suit is also a must (and yes that is the correct spelling of the word.)
Hammer Brother is great
I would love something to give Mario that Ground Pound that Yellow Yoshi's had.
And Perhaps a different kind of Fireball. Like a Fire Flower from Smash Brothers would be interesting.
Post by: ryancoke on January 31, 2007, 05:23:06 AM
Post by: Smoke39 on January 31, 2007, 05:36:52 AM
Post by: vudu on January 31, 2007, 05:51:45 AM
Post by: IceCold on January 31, 2007, 06:09:13 AM
QuoteKuribo's shoe, to boot..
Originally posted by: Smoke39
It was a SHOE, not a BOOT.
I crack myself up.
Post by: Ceric on February 01, 2007, 05:35:01 AM
Post by: Mysticspike on February 01, 2007, 11:39:15 AM
Post by: Amodaus1 on February 05, 2007, 08:53:18 PM
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Originally posted by: Ceric
You know revisiting the whole Super Mario Bros. 2 World would be cool.
Wasn't SMB2 a different game in japan?
And yes, they need to make another game like SMB2, and the whole world needs to know that birdo is a guy
Post by: KDR_11k on February 05, 2007, 11:30:49 PM
Post by: JonLeung on February 06, 2007, 01:48:07 AM
QuoteI remember reading that it was probably a mistranslation or something, at it was probably meant to be "Goomba's Shoe". I forget what "Jugem's Cloud" was about though, especially since "Lakitu" sounds like a name that was never translated to begin with. I'm sure Wikipedia has some answers. EDIT: Ah, Lakitu's Japanese name is "Jugemu". Weird. Apparently later games' manuals (I assume they mean All-Stars and/or Advance 4) call them "Goomba's Shoe" and "Lakitu's Cloud".
Originally posted by: IceColdQuoteKuribo's shoe, to boot..
Originally posted by: Smoke39
It was a SHOE, not a BOOT.
I crack myself up.
THE MORE YOU KNOW ....*
Post by: Mysticspike on February 06, 2007, 09:59:39 AM
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Originally posted by: mysticspike
i think it would be a good game. you can check out my post on the forum for the first one using my other, nonworking name, spike. super mario 2 would be a fun game to check out.
nevermind what i said here i was talking about super mario 64 DS
Post by: MarioAllStar on February 18, 2007, 04:52:20 AM
Post by: Mesu on February 22, 2007, 07:09:07 PM
That would problaby work well since the rocket and turbo nozzles basically moved mario in 2 dimensions anyways.
It could open up the level design to have more secret areas and difficult jumps(if they designed some later levels so that you replenishing the water tank wasn't always an option so you have to be careful not to waste water), plus I would like water cannon a bunch of hammer bros. guarding a secret area.
Post by: IceCold on February 22, 2007, 11:02:17 PM
Post by: LuigiHann on February 23, 2007, 05:08:45 AM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
That might work, but FLUDD was designed so that it took away the imprecision of platforming in the 3D world. 2D games are much more accurate worlds for platforming.
I've played a demo of a fan-made flash game that used the FLUDD in 2D. It works fairly well. Functions something like Yoshi's flutter jump. I wouldn't mind seeing it used in a real DS game.
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 07, 2007, 01:19:18 AM
Also I would like there to be some levels focused on vertical scrolling relying on some advanced wall jumping skills.
Post by: KDR_11k on March 07, 2007, 01:43:26 AM
