Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: MaryJane on January 03, 2007, 11:06:35 AM
Title: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: MaryJane on January 03, 2007, 11:06:35 AM
Recently a friend and I got into a disagreement about the way to say the different names in Zelda, like Hyrule, Hylia, Goron, Epona, and others to name a few I'm going to list the way I say them, and want to know how you guys say them, or know how they are supposed to be pronounced, add others I don't remember.
Epona - E (as in saying the vowel itself) po (like the poet edgar allen) and na (like nah) Hyrule Hy(high) rule(how else do you say rule?) Hylia Hy(as in his) li (as in the martial artist bruce) and a(like saying the word not the vowel itself) Goron - Gor (as in the politician who couldn't beat bush to get elected) on (like the opposite of off)
those were the big four we argued about, the others were trivial, and i can't even remember them.
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 03, 2007, 11:09:32 AM
Epona - Eh (as in 'shine gEHt!') pona.
Title: RE:Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: Kairon on January 03, 2007, 11:11:09 AM
I agree with you on those, except for this:
Quote Originally posted by: MaryJane Hylia Hy(as in his) li (as in the martial artist bruce) and a(like saying the word not the vowel itself)
hill-ee-ah?!?!?! HILL-EE-AH?!?!?! *huff* *puff*
I say 'High-lee-ah, as if the name of the lake was a derivative of Hyrule. Same for the Hylian people. (Hill-ee-an?!?! ARGH! KAIRON SMASH!)
But then again, I can't be too much of a pronounciation Nazi on this. I insist on pronouncing Chocobo Co-co-'bow when I'm told it's supposed to be 'chaw-co-bow... bah.
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: Kairon on January 03, 2007, 11:11:43 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Professional 666 Epona - Eh (as in 'shine gEHt!') pona.
I think both pronounciations of Epona are acceptable actually...
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: Ian Sane on January 03, 2007, 11:20:31 AM
I say hill-ee-ah ee-poan-ah goar-on high-rool
High-lee-ah makes sense but I honestly find it awkward to pronounce that. Don't know why. I think I just get used to however I pronouce a word for a the first time, even if it's wrong. It's like how I have a good idea how to pronounce "Shigeru Miyamoto" but I often say "shig-er-oo migh-ah-moh-toh" because "sheeg-air-oo mee-ah-moh-toh" sounds weird to me. Hell sometimes I initially read a word wrong and pronounce it as such for years before one day I realize that lowercase 'l' was an uppercase 'I' the whole time and I've been saying a totally made-up word the whole time.
I'm sure I pronounce "Link" and "Zelda" correctly.
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: Smoke39 on January 03, 2007, 11:33:36 AM
Link is a high-lee-an and rides a horse named eh-po-na.
I feel like I'm in preschool.
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: Ian Sane on January 03, 2007, 11:40:59 AM
Regarding the Epona pronunciation - in Twilight Princess you can name your horse whatever the hell you feel like. Therefore I can say I didn't name my horse the default name. I named him a different name that is spelled exactly the same but pronounced differently.
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: Requiem on January 03, 2007, 11:41:40 AM
Why would it be Hill-ee-ah, when it's High-rule?
So you see, they all correspond to each other:
High-rule, High-lee-a, High-lee-an
Title: RE:Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: Louieturkey on January 03, 2007, 11:41:54 AM
Hylia is like Pylia in the TV show "Angel" where Fred was for five years before Angel saved her. So High-LEE-uh works for me.
I go for EE-poh-nah for the horse's name.
To each their own though since there is nobody in the game actually saying them. It's just like in books where some people pronounce different words differently from others who read the same book. I don't think it really matters.
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: Ian Sane on January 03, 2007, 11:45:45 AM
My logic for saying "ee-poh-nah" is that "Epona" looks like it was derived from "pony". Thus I went with a similar pronunciation.
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: Smoke39 on January 03, 2007, 11:50:12 AM
'Cause "pony" totally starts with a long e sound, right?
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 03, 2007, 11:53:08 AM
HIGHLEEAN sounds AWFUL.
Hyrule - like Pyro. We've all seen the cartoon, so that stays.
Hylian - like Transylvania. CUZ WE HAVE A FREAKING "L" NOW, NOT AN "R". HYRULIAN WOULD BE MORE ACCURATE, BUT THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE.
GET THIS, WORDS THAT START WITH "C" AND ARE FOLLOWED BY "a" OR "o" OR "u" HAVE THE HARD "k" CONSONANT SOUND.
"CAT"
BUT WORDS THAT START WITH "C" AND ARE FOLLOWED BY "i" OR "e" HAVE THE "s" SOUND.
"CENTER"
EAT THAT, SUPER MARY-OH BRUTHERS.
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: Nick DiMola on January 03, 2007, 11:58:49 AM
I would say that if Hyrule is High-rule, Hylian should be High-lee-an. Terrible sounding or not, it seems to make some sense to me.
Title: RE:Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: JonLeung on January 03, 2007, 12:01:35 PM
Okay, I have trouble with a few more.
Nayru: is it Neigh-Rue or Ny-Rue? Farore: is it Fah-Roar, Fah-Roar-Eh, or Ferrari?
Similarly, the provinces...
Lanayru: is it La-Neigh-Rue or La-Ny-Rue? Faron: is it Fah-Ron or Fair-On?
And seeing as how both my Animal Crossing towns are named Kakariko, it'd be embarrassing if I pronounced that wrong.
Kakaraiko: is it Kack-A-Reek-O (the way that I pronounce it), Kah-Kah-Reek-O, Kah-Kar-Ick-O, Kack-Ahr-Ick-O, or what?
Title: RE:Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: k_bukie on January 03, 2007, 12:43:22 PM
Here's how I say it:
Hylian -> Hill-ee-an Kakariko -> Ka - kuh - reek' - oh Gerudo -> Jer - oo' - doh Hyrule -> High' - rule Epona -> Ee - pown' - a Goron -> Gore' - uhn Nayru -> Nay' - roo Farore -> Fah - row' - ray
Title: RE:Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: MaryJane on January 03, 2007, 01:34:04 PM
This is getting complicated.
I agree with Ian on most of his pronunciation points, except that I'm learning japanese so i always force myself to say japanese names the correct way especially names since the general consist of a lot syllables.
i'm sticking with my pronuciations except i'm changing to Fah - row' - ray that seems to make more sense
Title: RE:Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: Shecky on January 03, 2007, 02:10:22 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Professional 666 HIGHLEEAN sounds AWFUL.
Hyrule - like Pyro. We've all seen the cartoon, so that stays.
Hylian - like Transylvania. CUZ WE HAVE A FREAKING "L" NOW, NOT AN "R". HYRULIAN WOULD BE MORE ACCURATE, BUT THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE.
Hyrulian is real.
Hyrule ("high"-"rule") - City Hyrulian ("high"-"rule"-long E-an) - An inhabitant of the city of Hyrule Hylian ("hill"-long E-an) - A **RACE** of humanoids, as opposed to zoras or gorons, etc.
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: KnowsNothing on January 03, 2007, 02:49:37 PM
This is how I first pronounced everything, and it pretty much stuck. Looking back I think I should change a few of these (I aint too consistent), but whatever. I don't care if I say stuff wrong, HERE I GO
On the subject, where do you goons put the emphasis in "Deku." Is it "DEK-oo" or "dek-OO"?
Title: RE:Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: Hostile Creation on January 03, 2007, 02:50:28 PM
Well, Epona is the only one of those with a pre-existing meaning (as in, outside of Zelda), so you can probably look that one up. For info I can't find any specific pronunciation key, though.
I pronounce them the way Ian and Pro seem to. We don't call French people Francians. I don't what it would be, linguistically, but hill-ee-uhn doesn't sound like arse. Actually, my pronunciation is closer to heel-ee-uhn, long e sound.
(See now IGN was right voice acting would resolve all this)
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: IceCold on January 03, 2007, 02:50:32 PM
DEK-oo
Title: RE:Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: Caliban on January 03, 2007, 02:57:19 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Hostile Creation (See now IGN was right voice acting would resolve all this)
Or make it worse. Just one little change in a Zelda game and there are many of us stupidly arguing about nonsense.
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: Artimus on January 03, 2007, 03:12:38 PM
Hylian is just like Hyrule. And it doesn't sound stupid.
We don't call French people Francians, no, but we pronounce the 'fr' in French and France the same way. And they call themselves francois in their own language and they pronounce it exactly like France. So that example does nothing ton help the very wrong case of "hill-ee-an."
Title: RE:Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: JonLeung on January 03, 2007, 03:36:17 PM
I prefer Hill-e-an. Just because it's the root of Hyrule doesn't mean it has to have the same vowel sound.
There's a dinosaur that used to live around here, Edmonton, called Edmontosaurus, and it's Ed-MON-TO-saur-us, not Ed-MUN-TUH-saurus as in Ed-MUN-TUHN. Similarly, we live in the province of Alberta, Al-bert-AH, but we're Albertans, Al-bert-UHNS, not Al-bert-AHNS.
Like mentioned earlier, it could be "hill" like in Transylvania. Tran-sill-vain-e-a. It's not Tran-sighl-vain-e-a.
Personal preference, I guess. I don't think "Highlia" sounds dumb, I'm just not used to it.
Title: RE:Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: Shecky on January 03, 2007, 03:40:18 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Artimus Hylian is just like Hyrule. And it doesn't sound stupid.
We don't call French people Francians, no, but we pronounce the 'fr' in French and France the same way. And they call themselves francois in their own language and they pronounce it exactly like France. So that example does nothing ton help the very wrong case of "hill-ee-an."
Since when do the same letters force pronunciation to be the same?
Hi, my name is Shecky, I am a _human_ who lives in the great state of Hullberry. I'm proud to be a Hullberrian.
Anyways, I was just pointing out that Hylian and Hyrulian both exist in the fictional world of LoZ. Bickering on the correct pronunciation is kind of crazy. Just imagine that there are multiple dialects in the LoZ universe and some of its inhabitants say hill-E-an and some say high-lee-an. Problem solved.
--
Hi, my name is Link, I am a hylian who recently saved Hyrulians from a great evil and all I got was a statue erected in the middle of Hyrule castle.
Title: RE:Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: Kairon on January 03, 2007, 04:29:45 PM
I willingly mispronounce Chocobo when I've been told the proper pronouciation is otherwise, so I tend to be tolerant of different ways of pronouncing things.
Besides, I originally pronounced Harry Potter's Hermione as Her-mee-own, and thought that Her-my-oh-knee was weird... but *eh* I got used to it, and now my original pronounciation sounds weird instead.
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: Requiem on January 03, 2007, 04:36:51 PM
Quote Originally posted by: KnowsNothing On the subject, where do you goons put the emphasis in "Deku." Is it "DEK-oo" or "dek-OO"?
Wait, am I the only one that pronounces "Deku", "DEE-ku"?
I thought both vowels take the long form.
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: Kairon on January 03, 2007, 05:05:04 PM
WELCOME TO ENGLISH. ENJOY YOUR STAY.
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: KDR_11k on January 03, 2007, 11:03:20 PM
I pronounce everything the way it is written but I pronounce y as ü instead of i. Oh and Zelda, I pronounce that with a soft s instead of a z.
Title: RE:Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: JonLeung on January 04, 2007, 02:11:50 AM
TomAYto, TomAHto.
I'm glad most of my pronounciations are how the majority here say them, and am amused or intrigued by the other pronounciations, but in the end it doesn't matter much.
In Pokémon, I kept saying "Rayquaza" like Ray-Kwaz-Za but then they pronounced it Ray-Kwayz-Za in the seventh Pokémon movie. Considering there's one z and it looks like Pig Latin for "Quazar", they're probably right. But considering they say "Poke-Uh-Mon" as well as "Poke-Ay-Mon" when anybody can see the accent (é) that really should make it the latter, an official source could be confused or downright mistaken as well - so even if they pronounced them in the game or other Zelda material there would still be debates.
Similarly, in Star Wars you have "Haahn Solo", but Lando, his pal, says "Hann Solo".
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: ryancoke on January 04, 2007, 02:21:17 AM
Epona = dog-food (at least on my game )
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: ThePerm on January 04, 2007, 03:52:00 AM
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: ThePerm on January 04, 2007, 04:11:11 AM
kdr you don't count your German, although....put up a sound byte, cus i can imagine how you prounce Zelda withthe soft s, or possibly Tselda., It probably sounds cool either way. and jonleung Edmontosaurus has more sylables then Edmund thats why its pronounced differently
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: Nick DiMola on January 04, 2007, 04:21:46 AM
Regarding Deku, am I the only one who pronounces it Day-Koo. Myself and my friends have always pronounced it in this fashion.
Oh, and how about Malon. I have heard many other people say may-lon, I personally pronounce it Mal-In (Mal, pronounced like the name of the captain in Firefly).
This is exactly why voice acting would suck. Everyone has their own way of saying all of these words. If Nintendo were to step in and mess with that, everytime a word was said differently than how you originally pronounced it, it would be a detractor from the game and it would fail to immerse you in the same way it always has.
Title: RE:Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: MaryJane on January 04, 2007, 04:29:10 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Kairon I willingly mispronounce Chocobo when I've been told the proper pronouciation is otherwise, so I tend to be tolerant of different ways of pronouncing things.Besides, I originally pronounced Harry Potter's Hermione as Her-mee-own, and thought that Her-my-oh-knee was weird... but *eh* I got used to it, and now my original pronounciation sounds weird instead.~Carmine "Cai" M. RedKairon@aol.com
Is your real name Viktor krum?
Anywho it really is each to his own 'Since there isn't any voice acting unleSS someone Can get a Sound clip of a Nintendo personality saying the names but then you have to worry about accents
Title: RE:Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: JonLeung on January 04, 2007, 04:38:25 AM
If people can create functional but fictional languages (apparently Klingon is) then it would be cool if they could at least come up with a Hylian/Hyrulian accent.
Oh, man, what if the Hylian accent turned out to be actually really HAWT? o_0 You know, like French or Australian...heck, any foreign accent? I'd watch any scenes where Zelda speaks over and over and over and over... *drool* Or if it was really that hot, any of the females, really.
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: couchmonkey on January 04, 2007, 04:39:50 AM
The only one where I seem to differ from the majority is "Deku", which I pronounce "day-koo".
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: ThePerm on January 04, 2007, 04:46:43 AM
you probably pronounce that correctly, i prouncouce it Dehkkuh, i pronounce Malon like the city Malon(italy)
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: Ian Sane on January 04, 2007, 05:33:26 AM
"'Cause 'pony' totally starts with a long e sound, right?"
Pony is "poh-nee", thus "ee-poh-nah". Using my logic it would only be "eh-poh-nah" if pony was "poh-nay".
"Regarding Deku, am I the only one who pronounces it Day-Koo. Myself and my friends have always pronounced it in this fashion."
I do too. Though sometimes I say "dee-koo" as well. I think I originally said one and my brother said the other so we both flip-flop between both.
I pronounce Malon phonetically.
Originally in A Link to the Past I read "Kakariko" as "Karkariko" and thus pronounce it REALLY wrong half the time. "Kack-ah-ree-koh" or "care-care-ee-koh" if I'm in dumbass mode.
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 04, 2007, 05:44:24 AM
NINTENDOWHINEREPORT.COM strikes again =D
TIP EHT FO MOTTOB
Title: RE:Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: JonLeung on January 04, 2007, 05:55:25 AM
I pronounce "Zelda" like this: BAY-BA-LISH-USS HAWT-TEE.
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: ThePerm on January 04, 2007, 06:02:31 AM
in other news my brother pronounces Sony "Sawnee" which is weird because Sony sometimes says their name in their comercials....
also 99% of us pronounce nintendo wrong. its not Nin Ten Doh its Neen Teyn Doh. I will however continue to say it wrong, and attribute its mispronunciation as the proper way to say it in English.
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: Ian Sane on January 04, 2007, 06:12:41 AM
"also 99% of us pronounce nintendo wrong. its not Nin Ten Doh its Neen Teyn Doh. I will however continue to say it wrong, and attribute its mispronunciation as the proper way to say it in English."
Doesn't NOA pronounce it "Nin Ten Doh"? I always hear that in ads so I'd say it's the proper way to say it in English.
I also call id Software "eye dee software", which is wrong, but I always pronounce Pokemon correctly even if I'm too lazy to but in the accent in my spelling.
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: ThePerm on January 04, 2007, 06:17:24 AM
i also pronounce id softare as eye dee, even though i am very aware its id like did minus the d as in the id the ego and the super ego
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: decoyman on January 04, 2007, 06:39:38 AM
Deku = Day-koo Hylian = High-lee-en (like Hyrule, jeez, get with the program guys!) Malon = Mal-on Malo = Mal-oh (like the last part of marshmallow)
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: KnowsNothing on January 04, 2007, 07:14:58 AM
I didn't realize dee and day-koo were so popular. I personally say deh-KOO =S
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: TrueNerd on January 04, 2007, 08:35:25 AM
I pronounce ocarina like "Ah-kar-eena" when I'm pretty sure its "Oh-kar-eena."
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 04, 2007, 08:45:28 AM
It's pronounced in the standard Japanese syllable-metric (pretty sure I just made up a word!) way..."Oh-ka-ree-na"..."De-ku"...etc...
The only word I think is arguable is "Hylian," which could either be "High-lee-en" or "Hih-lee-en"...I personally find the latter to sound better...
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: Kairon on January 04, 2007, 08:54:11 AM
We're only arguing in this thread because we can no longer argue about which side of Hyrule is west or east and where things should be on the map. We made an even more pointless argument because, nintendo fanboys that we are, we're not used to having so little to complain about.
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: JonLeung on January 04, 2007, 08:54:36 AM
I was thinking about how words are in Japanese and was thinking about how the Japanese would say Ka-ka-ri-ko and Ge-ru-do.
Until this topic I had never even considered that Gerudo could be pronounced with a "J" sound but the Japanese pronounciation might clear things up.
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: Dirk Temporo on January 04, 2007, 10:44:37 AM
Hylia is totally hill-ee-ah.
Title: RE: Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: ThePerm on January 04, 2007, 01:14:32 PM
't"ijr" ...best i could do making english look like japanese
hyrule is most definitely hai-rule, but i dont see Hylia onthe map...yet
and death mountain is named Goron mountain
Title: RE:Zelda Pronunciations
Post by: MaryJane on January 04, 2007, 02:27:21 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Kairon We're only arguing in this thread because we can no longer argue about which side of Hyrule is west or east and where things should be on the map. We made an even more pointless argument because, nintendo fanboys that we are, we're not used to having so little to complain about.
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red Kairon@aol.com
Actually I just wanted to know if I was wrong for berrating my friend and saying he needed to learn english (since I'm the one who started the thread). I still say my pronunciations are right, and my English professor (who doesn't play Zelda) pronounced the names the same way I did, so I'm going to stick with them.