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Title: Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: segagamer12 on January 02, 2007, 10:00:15 AM
I do not know what the hell the problem is but I cant seam to get any fish and as far as I can tell I am supposed to geta fish to get the cat so I can get my sling shot. I have tried EVERYTHING and I cant figure out hwo the hell to get those damn fish. Maybe I just havent played enough but I hate beign stuck on the damn fishing and its driving me crazy, So WHAT DO I DO!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! any help would be greatly appreciated. I havent play the game a lot cuz I havent had time but this is getting ridiculous.  
Title: RE: Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: KnowsNothing on January 02, 2007, 10:05:58 AM
Step 1: Get fishing pole.  I assume you have completed step one.

Step 2: Go to where the cat is at.

Step 3: Locate fish in water.

Step 4:  Assign the fishing pole to the B button, and press said button to activate the item, thus casting the pole into the river.

Step 4: Wait a li'l bit.

Step 5: When the fish bites, the bobber will quickly sink for a brief moment.  During this time, you are to pull up on the Wiimote, raising it above your head.  Keep your arm all up there fo sho.

Step 6: Cool.  
Title: RE:Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: JonLeung on January 02, 2007, 10:23:46 AM
For the bobbing rod, you basically just have to wait until the whole bobber thing is entirely off-screen (or as far as it'll go) then pull up and keep the Wii Remote upright.

I was stuck there for half an hour too.  They don't explain it very well.  Fishing is a bit better when you get to Hena's fishing pond and you get a rod with a reel.  
Title: RE: Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 02, 2007, 10:24:58 AM
1.  Stand at the edge of the dock and cast the lure.  The bob should land on the water surface.

2.  Watch the bob (floating stick thing on the surface).  The fish don't catch the bob, they catch the hook dangling beneath the bob (not visible on screen).

3.  You'll see the bob rise and fall.  When you notice the bob is in the sinking motion (upward motion is too late), RAISE YOUR ARM UP (raise the remote) so your arm is almost verticle.  Link's arm will also appear verticle.  The screen will say you got a bite.  If not, wait for the next sinking and change your timing.  

4.  Keep your arm up.  To pull the fish out, bob the fishing rod up & down by slightly dropping and raising the remote (wrist flicks or arm movments; if you drop your arm to a, say,  45 degree angle, you'll give up the fish, so don't drop your arm too far).  The movements should not be violent.
Title: RE: Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on January 02, 2007, 10:33:37 AM
fishing in zelda sucks because you cannot use the lure rod  in lake hylia.
Title: RE: Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: Ian Sane on January 02, 2007, 10:58:11 AM
The funny thing is I only have the Cube version and thought the fishing was kind of a weak, especially compared to Ocarina of Time's fishing.  But I figured it was because I didn't have the remote so the experience wasn't the same.  Sounds like it's the same sort of thing in both.  Jon Leung's spoiler gives me hope since I haven't been to that spot yet because I was thinking that the fishing was lame so I might as well do something else.
Title: RE:Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: segagamer12 on January 02, 2007, 11:03:02 AM
thanks guys ill try again.
Title: RE:Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: segagamer12 on January 02, 2007, 11:16:50 AM
sorry I guess I forgot there was a gameplay stratgey forum for such questions I should have posted there. hope I didnt break any rules.
Title: RE:Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: darknight06 on January 02, 2007, 01:39:24 PM
Maybe it's because I actually used to go fishing both ways when I was a kid but I didn't have a problem catching a fish with the bobber rod at all.  I've had more trouble catching them later on than I did at the start.  Odd thing is that nobody else could catch a fish at my house so I dunno what the problem is.
Title: RE: Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: Infernal Monkey on January 02, 2007, 03:46:20 PM
Sell the game and pick up a Dreamcast with Sega Bass Fishing (fishing rod controller included). Then throw that all in the bin and make a tuna sandwich.
Title: RE: Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: Artimus on January 02, 2007, 04:10:13 PM
Am I the only one who didn't have any trouble catching the cat a fish? I had to check the instruction manual to see what to do once the bobber is done (I had seen people reeling and wondered why it wasn't working, not realizing that was later) but otherwise it was easy...
Title: RE: Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: Rancid Planet on January 02, 2007, 04:49:09 PM
I had no problems at all either Artimus. I caught a fish which was cataloged then for some reason I coudn't get it to the cat. Then I cast out again and BAM caught another fish, managed to get it to the cat or the cat to it as the case may have been. It was that simple.

My brother had a hell of a time catching his first fish though so I guess there must be a certain amount of intuition involved or something. Because it certainly wasn't hard for me.
Title: RE:Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: Dozy Boy on January 02, 2007, 05:37:07 PM
The cat absolutely never gets the first fish as far as I know. I've started multiple files for the heck of it and seen my cousin play as well. The second fish we catch is always the one the cat gets as though the game is programmed to have you practice for a minute before letting you proceed.
Title: RE: Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: Rancid Planet on January 02, 2007, 05:56:53 PM
That's what I figured but it didn't make it clear while playing. Thanks for the confirmation though Dozy Boy.
Title: RE: Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: Smoke39 on January 02, 2007, 06:21:35 PM
The first fish is for getting the cat's attention (it'll start following you around when you have the rod out after your first catch).
Title: RE: Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: Rancid Planet on January 02, 2007, 10:38:45 PM
Thanks for even further clarification Smoke39. Apparantly I don't pay attention to games at all. I just plow straight through and scream "I BEATED IT!" at the end of every level. People are like "Did you notice the subtle detail in the background of the boss's cave?" and I'm all like "NO I JUS BEATED IT NUUB!"...yeah I suck.
Title: RE: Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: Shorty McNostril on January 02, 2007, 11:06:22 PM
It took me ages to figure out how to use that bobber rod.  I used to give it a yank up when it started rising again and that was my problem.  It was sheer fluke that i pulled it up that tad bit earlier due to my frustration that i managed to get the knack of it.
Title: RE:Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: ShreddersDojo on January 03, 2007, 01:34:29 AM
I got my first fish fine.... but after a while, even on my second fish, it kept on saying too small, throw back.  I spent an hour there, untill I realized that when I chased the cat away in frustration halfway through the hour, the cat did not come back, so I Had to lure it in again.  THEN when it was close enough, it took the damned fish .
Title: RE: Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: Ian Sane on January 03, 2007, 05:41:10 AM
"The first fish is for getting the cat's attention (it'll start following you around when you have the rod out after your first catch)."

That is what tripped me up.  I caught a fish, the cat's following me, everything's cool, right?  I just have to make him follow me to the house and I'm done.  NOPE.  Catch another fish even though we give no indication that this needs to be done and it logically makes no sense why you have to do it twice.  Bleh.  There seems to be at least one moment in every Zelda game where I'm screaming "WHAT THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO DO?"  In Ocarina of Time it was playing the forest song for Darunia.
Title: RE: Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 03, 2007, 06:07:29 AM
The 2-fish rule is odd.

But playing the forest song for Darunia, a nearby Goron would tell you Darunia liked the music.  That's hint #1.  If yo' ass took too long to get moving, Navi told you to see Saria in the Sacred Forest Meadow.  That's hint #2, and it was practically handholding.
Title: RE:Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: segagamer12 on January 03, 2007, 06:14:08 AM
Well i got the damn cat to follow the fish finally.

I cought my first fish and it didnt even let me do anything with it It just said to toss it back.


Oh and IM I already have a Dreamcast and Fishing pole controller so thanks for the suggestion now **** ***
Title: RE:Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: Smoke39 on January 03, 2007, 11:46:13 AM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
The 2-fish rule is odd.

But playing the forest song for Darunia, a nearby Goron would tell you Darunia liked the music.  That's hint #1.  If yo' ass took too long to get moving, Navi told you to see Saria in the Sacred Forest Meadow.  That's hint #2, and it was practically handholding.

No.  Navi only said "Dur, I wonder whut Saria would say if we told her we were gonna save the world lol."  And then you're like, "Nobody fvcking cares about Saria.  Jerkface won't talk to me. O:<"  I could take the hint, but it really makes no sense, and was a really awkwardly shoe-horned in way to require you to go get that song.
Title: RE: Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 03, 2007, 12:06:32 PM
yOU'RE completely wronger than Ian.

It totally makes sense.  Doesn't matter what Navi said, she simply told you to run in a certain direction (if you were slow and needed handholding).  What mattered was Darunia needed CHEERING UP.  One goron knew Darunia liked the music, and it was up to you to trace it to the source, which you should've learned already by early exploration at the beginning of the game.

Pulling out the Ocarina in front of Darunia caused the positive jingle sound to happen anyway, indicating a song of some sort was required (< NOT CONFIRMED, I'M NOT LOADING UP OOT JUST TO FIND THAT OUT).

Ocarina and music were the theme of the game dur.

And I've noticed TP has more handholding than Ocarina.  WHAT A TRAGEDY.  
Title: RE: Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: Smoke39 on January 03, 2007, 12:22:59 PM
Whipping out the ocarina in front of Mr. Grumpypants did make the musical staff appear.  But nothing hinted that talking to Saria would teach you a new song.  Hearing Navi say "Oh god I have the hots for Saria" is apparently too cryptic for some persons.  Like Ian.  And my dad.  My poor dad.  He loves Zelda, but he sucks so bad at it. ):

And all the 3D Zeldas that've come after OoT have been more handholdy than OoT.
Title: RE: Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: King of Twitch on January 03, 2007, 12:47:41 PM
Why should someone suddenly have to backtrack to the Lost Woods or I guess you could use the shortcutin the first place. It'z Zelda not Metroid.
Title: RE: Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: IceCold on January 03, 2007, 05:13:59 PM
Pro's absolutely right. There was one Goron who told you that Darunia loved listening to that song coming out of the cave. When you went close to it you could hear Saria's Song IIRC.
Title: RE: Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: Smoke39 on January 03, 2007, 06:27:37 PM
I don't remember him saying Darunia liked that song in particular.  I'm gonna have to check when I fly back up to Washington.  Just you wait.
Title: RE: Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: Ian Sane on January 04, 2007, 05:22:02 AM
Honestly I could probably have figured out the Darunia thing easier if I played the game now.  When I first played Ocarina of Time I was just getting back into games after a long absence.  Prior to that I had mostly played action games and got interested the Zelda series was my first real take and games requiring logic.  OoT would have been my third Zelda game I think.  Anyway I used real world logic but wasn't familiar enough with the formulas of games like these to try out things that require game logic.

While I'm playing TP, when I face a boss I immediately have the item I got in the dungeon ready.  That's game logic.  They just gave me an item so I'm to use it here.  But when I was younger I didn't have that game logic.  I acted like I would in real life.  In real life it made NO SENSE AT ALL to return to the forest.  A little while ago I just had this goodbye with Saria that gave me the impression that I would never see her again.  It was like leaving on a long journey and then returning later that afternoon.

In game logic it makes tons of sense.  Navi suggests you go somewhere.  You go there and get a song.  You can't figure out how to make Darunia do anything so naturally playing the song you just learned makes sense.  Though I didn't notice the place to stand to play the song.  I think that was the first time to game required you to do that.  I didn't notice the ding sound because the Ocarina of still new to me.  I think I assumed that was standard stuff.  Afterall at that point you weren't playing songs to change the day, call the horse or teleport places yet.  Odds are the only time I had played any song at that point was to play a song for Zelda.

Regardless of me not noticing the music thing, returning to the forest you just supposedly left forever a few hours ago makes no f*cking sense outside of game logic.  That whole part felt horribly forced.
Title: RE:Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: Griffin on January 04, 2007, 06:05:49 AM
Going back to the fish thing... when I caught the first fish (right next to the cat, on the small pier), the fish actually dropped on the ground, and the cat grabbed it and ran back into the house on its own... wierd. Or I'm just half asleep and not reading your experiences right.
Title: RE: Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: ThePerm on January 04, 2007, 06:10:00 AM
curses none of you have played shadowgate 64, who the fuck would have guess putting a rope down a small window meant that you had to then play the flute which would shrink you and then allow you to go through! Feck!
Title: RE: Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 04, 2007, 06:18:17 AM
It is a game, afterall.

Remember you had to use Din's Fire to enter the Shadow Temple?  If you never picked it up prior to visiting the room, you had NO CLUE such a spell existed.  You just saw the fireball imprint on the pedestal.

On top of that, there were no obvious clues that told you to a Great Fairy would give it to you, nor where that Great Fairy was located.  Forced?  More like TOUGH LUCK PAL, YOU DIDN'T BOMB ALL OF HYRULE LIKE WE EXPECT YOU TO BUT NEVER TOLD YOU TO.  I don't hear any complaints about that.

But you would've found it anyway, right?  Cuz it's, oh, ZERUDA? and you're supposed to scour every square inch of land to complete the game, right?

Just like you would've ended up finding Saria and getting her song anyway, right?  At least there was a goron available to point out the music relationship.

Hey, you failed to get that music clue, which was only a matter of talking to an NPC.  Rather than being forced, it was your dumb luck that got you past the whole obstacle.

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Originally posted by: MJRx9000
Why should someone suddenly have to backtrack to the Lost Woods or I guess you could use the shortcutin the first place. It'z Zelda not Metroid.


Backtracking to the Lost Woods was mandatory cuz you didn't have the ability to pickup bomb plants at that stage in the game (no Goron Bracelet, Darunia's gift), so you couldn't bomb the rocks that blocked the shortcut's path.
Title: RE: Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: ThePerm on January 04, 2007, 06:24:53 AM
you know thats part of the miyamoto game design philosophy, your not sure what to do, so just have fun and enjoy the playground that is hyrule, try to get some hearts, or maybe just messing around youll uncover it by accident. I fact its not usually an accident that you go there Miyamoto sets up how you think in the game. from the very beginning he controls your interests by directing you, giving you a false sense of freedom, where you think your doing something off the journey it turns out your doing exactly what he wanted to do.
Title: RE: Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 04, 2007, 06:28:46 AM
You're assuming people like to explore.  This is NWR, you can't expect so much from these guys =D
Title: RE: Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: IceCold on January 04, 2007, 07:34:21 AM
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Remember you had to use Din's Fire to enter the Shadow Temple? If you never picked it up prior to visiting the room, you had NO CLUE such a spell existed. You just saw the fireball imprint on the pedestal.

On top of that, there were no obvious clues that told you to a Great Fairy would give it to you, nor where that Great Fairy was located. Forced? More like TOUGH LUCK PAL, YOU DIDN'T BOMB ALL OF HYRULE LIKE WE EXPECT YOU TO BUT NEVER TOLD YOU TO. I don't hear any complaints about that.
Wait a second. When you got the spin sword attack (top of Death Mountain) which was heavily hinted at (Someone outright told you to go to the top, then Navi kept reminding you) the Great Fairy does her stuff, then tells you to visit her "sister" (?) in Hyrule Castle. Once you get to the castle it's not exactly hard to find the other fairy and get Din's fire. After you got the bombs you knew that those types of rocks could be bombed.
Title: RE: Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: vudu on January 04, 2007, 08:20:30 AM
How do you people remember this crap?  Hell, when you guys were talking about the third boss in Twilight Princess it took me almost three minutes to remember who that was.  I barely remember what I had for breakfast this morning peanut butter toast and a bowl of oatmeal.
Title: RE: Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 04, 2007, 08:34:40 AM
OK, slightly bad example since people tend to explore the castle area thoroughly.  But that Great Fairy isn't mission-critical in the first phase of the game, so it's easy to overlook/skip and just head straight to Jabu Jabu and move forward with the story.

~~~~~

This is a thread of nintendo geek supremacy.  Real Zelda fans remember these things =D
(at least my memory is somewhat photographic)

I probably remember where most of the 100 skulltullas are as well.
Title: RE:Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: King of Twitch on January 04, 2007, 01:53:01 PM
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Why should someone suddenly have to backtrack to the Lost Woods or I guess you could use the shortcutin the first place. It'z Zelda not Metroid.


complaining about an eight year-old game. stupid, stupid.
Title: RE:Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: Nephilim on January 04, 2007, 04:39:13 PM
Catching the 2 fish was te hardest part of TW, kinda sad
Title: RE:Fishing in Zelda SUCKS! (mandatory spoiler tag just incase)
Post by: Infernal Monkey on January 04, 2007, 08:12:09 PM
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Originally posted by: segagamer12

Oh and IM I already have a Dreamcast and Fishing pole controller so thanks for the suggestion now **** ***


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