Post by: D_MaN87 on December 22, 2006, 04:00:16 AM
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Post by: Ceric on December 22, 2006, 04:30:29 AM
I'll summarize.
It's a Monday so they were releasing games anyway.
They held back good games that were released in the other regions to make it seem special.
NoA is a Scrooge.
I would have been happy with a Card from the Nintendo Icons on my Message Board. This ain't special at all. In fact its very anti-climatic and another example of them jerking us around. If all of Nintendo did this then it might be something. But in the connected world we live in to give us leftovers... as something special... blah.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 22, 2006, 04:48:56 AM
Post by: Hostile Creation on December 22, 2006, 05:34:10 AM
Post by: Ceric on December 22, 2006, 05:46:39 AM
Post by: D_MaN87 on December 22, 2006, 05:59:01 AM
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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
Since when do businesses have to give out free Christmas gifts? You buy their stuff. That's the whole point.
I'm not saying they "had" to or anything. Heck Im not all that worked up over the fact that they didn't. But when Nintendo (Reggie) announced we would recieve a Christmas gift, I guess I set my hopes up high. And from the talks about this topic in previous posts, I was not alone. It was just sort of a let down. Still though, the moment SF2, and SMB are on my wii I'll forget all about this.
Post by: Smash_Brother on December 22, 2006, 06:06:35 AM
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Originally posted by: Ceric
I would have been happy with a Card from the Nintendo Icons on my Message Board. This ain't special at all. In fact its very anti-climatic and another example of them jerking us around. If all of Nintendo did this then it might be something. But in the connected world we live in to give us leftovers... as something special... blah.
Agreed in full.
With all of the free stuff they could have given us (Miis, cards, etc.) I think it's safe to say this is sucktacular at best.
Post by: Ian Sane on December 22, 2006, 06:39:27 AM
Though the opportunity to buy something could be a gift if it was a one of kind item that normally wouldn't be for sale like the Mona Lisa or a night with your neighbour's wife.
Post by: ShyGuy on December 22, 2006, 07:08:09 AM
Post by: Kairon on December 22, 2006, 07:12:46 AM
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 22, 2006, 07:59:07 AM
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Originally posted by: Smash_BrotherQuote
Originally posted by: Ceric
I would have been happy with a Card from the Nintendo Icons on my Message Board. This ain't special at all. In fact its very anti-climatic and another example of them jerking us around. If all of Nintendo did this then it might be something. But in the connected world we live in to give us leftovers... as something special... blah.
Agreed in full.
With all of the free stuff they could have given us (Miis, cards, etc.) I think it's safe to say this is sucktacular at best.
SB, remember when you decided to tell me the surprise of the package because you feared that I would be hyped up only to be disappointed early on? I think that's what happened to you and EVERYONE expecting the Christmas surprise. Reggie made the mistake of letting everyone know to expect a surprise on Christmas, and lo and behold, everyone got disappointed.
I think I told SB to not expect anything spectacular because companies, especially Nintendo, have the tendency to hype up the most insignificant of things, leading to major disappointment.
Which is why I say that while you bitch at Nintendo hit yourself in the gut for getting your hopes up. And SB, this BETTER teach you to not expect anything great (I am talking about your wishes of an Apple/Nintendo announcement, SB, because IT WON'T HAPPEN).
Not to get anyone's hopes up, but there is still the chance of getting a Christmas message. I mean, didn't Reggie mention something that users that had their Wiis connected on Christmas would be RECEIVING something? VC downloads are hardly receiving because you have to pay in order to get it. So, who knows...Do not get your hopes up, just in case.
Post by: couchmonkey on December 22, 2006, 08:05:50 AM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 22, 2006, 08:16:03 AM
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Originally posted by: Ceric
When they told you they do something special. This ain't special. Maybe a price reduction on all these would make them special though.
HOLD IT!
I do remember Reggie mentioning a surprise, but he NEVER mentioned it being "special".
Anybody know where I can find the original article where Reggie stated the surprise? Again, I have the feeling that people took the comments out of context and thus the disappointment reared its ugly head.
I think everyone should stop bitching for a sec and analyze what he said before coming to conclusions.
Post by: Ceric on December 22, 2006, 12:11:47 PM
Post by: King of Twitch on December 22, 2006, 02:30:09 PM
--MTV interview
So.. before the "holidays" they have "activities" planned!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 22, 2006, 02:43:36 PM
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Originally posted by: MJRx9000
Fils-Aime confirmed that Wiis connected to the Internet will automatically download surprise bonus material from Nintendo, but he wouldn't detail what kind of unexpected messages or channels might pop up. "I'd hate to ruin the surprise. Is there activity that we're working on for before the holidays? The answer is yes."
--MTV interview
So.. before the "holidays" they have "activities" planned!
So, this somewhat confirms that the games are not the surprise Reggie mentioned. The key words here are AUTOMATICALLY DOWNLOAD SURPRISE BONUS MATERIAL. You must buy the games in order to download them.
The thing is that the holidays are almost coming to an end, and no word of surprises have sprung up. Looks like we might have to check the Wiis on Christmas or after it to see what the fuss is about and put an end to this mystery.
Post by: GamerGeorge on December 22, 2006, 04:26:49 PM
Post by: Hocotate on December 22, 2006, 04:40:09 PM
If you were actually expecting something so great, then you deserve the disappointment :p
Post by: GamerGeorge on December 22, 2006, 04:51:05 PM
Post by: Ceric on December 22, 2006, 05:24:05 PM
As I said come Christmas and I have a card from Nintendo with a cool picture on it. Maybe another Mii hat. I was hoping for a little VC game they cooked up. Though I'm hoping the shopping channel will next year be themed for each season.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 22, 2006, 05:55:54 PM
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Originally posted by: Ceric
I don't expect great just non-routine.
As I said come Christmas and I have a card from Nintendo with a cool picture on it. Maybe another Mii hat. I was hoping for a little VC game they cooked up. Though I'm hoping the shopping channel will next year be themed for each season.
In that case, the least we can expect is a message from Nintendo, signed by either Iwata or Reggie.
You know like...
"Happy Holidays from all your friends at Nintendo! Thank you for purchasing the Wii. We hope you and your family enjoy it greatly. Be careful when playing, though!
Sincerely:
Reggie"
Post by: Smash_Brother on December 24, 2006, 07:02:04 AM
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Originally posted by: pap64Quote
Originally posted by: Ceric
I don't expect great just non-routine.
As I said come Christmas and I have a card from Nintendo with a cool picture on it. Maybe another Mii hat. I was hoping for a little VC game they cooked up. Though I'm hoping the shopping channel will next year be themed for each season.
In that case, the least we can expect is a message from Nintendo, signed by either Iwata or Reggie.
You know like...
"Happy Holidays from all your friends at Nintendo! Thank you for purchasing the Wii. We hope you and your family enjoy it greatly. Be careful when playing, though!
Sincerely:
Reggie"
This is why I'm disappointed. The surprise was that we can buy something which we were going to be able to buy anyway? What?
I would have loved a "holiday" card with a photo of Reggie, Iwata, Shiggy and Perrin all together just saying "Happy Holidays" or something. This wouldn't have been that hard to pull off.
Hell, even a card with Reggie wearing a Santa hat or something would have been cool: it would use the Wii's photo channel feature and would have been a neat little hello, maybe the mail could have been a paragraph from Reggie thanking everyone who bought a Wii, "We couldn't have done it without you.", etc.
It's free, it's clever, and it's...SOMETHING.
But meh, I'm not going to be upset if it's nothing. The Wii is good enough that trivial sh*t like this won't make or break my experience with it.
Post by: The Omen on December 24, 2006, 07:59:48 AM
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 25, 2006, 06:21:12 AM
Any word of updates or surprises? I'm guessing that by the lack of news, nothing.
Post by: Smash_Brother on December 25, 2006, 06:45:04 AM
Shame, too, considering it would have been a good demonstration of the Wii's internet connectivity, especially considering they did something similar when Nintendo sent us the notice about the internet and weather channels.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 25, 2006, 06:47:11 AM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
Yep, jack squat.
Shame, too, considering it would have been a good demonstration of the Wii's internet connectivity, especially considering they did something similar when Nintendo sent us the notice about the internet and weather channels.
In that case...SANTA REGGIE IS MADE OF PHAIL.
Post by: Smash_Brother on December 25, 2006, 07:32:58 AM
Post by: therat on December 25, 2006, 07:42:26 AM
hhahaha, made you look
Post by: 31 Flavas on December 25, 2006, 07:45:44 AM
QuoteBitch bitch bitch.... You get the forcast channel, a preview version of the Wiib browser, and some awesome VC titles. And what thanks do you give them? (not you personally, everyone here)
Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
Yep, jack squat.
Shame, too, considering it would have been a good demonstration of the Wii's internet connectivity, especially considering they did something similar when Nintendo sent us the notice about the internet and weather channels.
A whole lot a bitching. Nice.
Post by: MarioAllStar on December 25, 2006, 08:09:14 AM
It is kind of funny how demanding we can get from companies. I guess we feel that our system purchase is like a contract--we bought it, now Nintendo has to ensure we get our money's worth.
Post by: Ceric on December 25, 2006, 08:34:08 AM
Also just to be sort of clear I make my opinion loud because I know that Nintendo has to read us every once and a while and it gives them some time to at least now what I'm saying. I mean the Reggie card thing would only take Reggie 2 minutes. Overall I think the mindshare would be worth it.
Post by: 31 Flavas on December 25, 2006, 09:40:34 AM
I'm just happy and thankful they keep making games! And to ecco Mario, "Thanks for the memories Nintendo."
Post by: Smash_Brother on December 25, 2006, 12:58:03 PM
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Originally posted by: 31 Flavas Bitch bitch bitch.... You get the forcast channel, a preview version of the Wiib browser, and some awesome VC titles. And what thanks do you give them? (not you personally, everyone here)
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It is kind of funny how demanding we can get from companies. I guess we feel that our system purchase is like a contract--we bought it, now Nintendo has to ensure we get our money's worth.
No one DEMANDED a surprise: Reggie said there would be one. If the surprise was going to be so insanely weak, why bother advertising it?
If the surprise is that we can now pay them money for a 20+ year old piece of software, then that's limper than Bob Dole without his viagra.
Why say anything if the alleged "surprise" is a game that Japan and Europe have already been able to download since launch?
Post by: Mario on December 25, 2006, 01:03:21 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on December 25, 2006, 01:08:36 PM
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Originally posted by: Mario It's better than nothing so shut up.
Do the smart thing: go play it in AC on the GC.
And for those of us who won't bend over and grab out ankles for VC pricing, no, it's not better than nothing.
I'm not sure if it was ever confirmed that this was indeed the surprise, but calling this a "surprise" is akin to telling my GF to expect something awesome for Xmas, then telling her that the surprise is that she can pay me the full price of a piece of jewelry and I'll go to the store to get it for her.
Post by: UncleBob on December 25, 2006, 01:17:54 PM
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Originally posted by: 31 FlavasBitch bitch bitch.... You get the forcast channel, a preview version of the Wiib browser, and some awesome VC titles. And what thanks do you give them?
$250.
Not that I'm complaining that I didn't get anything for free or what not, but each of those (the forcast channel, the internet channel and the VC games) were all things that we were supposed to be getting for the purchase price of the Wii in the first place (well, not the VC games, but the option to buy them).
Post by: Smash_Brother on December 25, 2006, 01:35:35 PM
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Originally posted by: UncleBob $250.
Not that I'm complaining that I didn't get anything for free or what not, but each of those (the forcast channel, the internet channel and the VC games) were all things that we were supposed to be getting for the purchase price of the Wii in the first place (well, not the VC games, but the option to buy them).
Another good point.
Though, I'm not complaining that I didn't get something for free.
My complaint is that I'm supposed to consider the ability to buy something I have no interest in buying as something I should be excited about.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 25, 2006, 02:19:44 PM
I have to agree with SB in that Reggie made the HUGE mistake of promising a surprise, then finding out its something not worth it.
But whatever, I don't have a Wii so I can't join in on the bitching
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Post by: Smash_Brother on December 25, 2006, 07:42:24 PM
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Originally posted by: pap64 But whatever, I don't have a Wii so I can't join in on the bitching
Sure you can.
Calling a the act of putting something on sale a "surprise" is idiocy no matter what the circumstance.
But like I said, are we even sure that WAS the surprise?
Post by: SixthAngel on December 25, 2006, 08:21:44 PM
It is really everyones fault for building way too much hype behind every tiny little announcement. If Reggie said he liked Oscar Meyer Wieners everyone would be on here talking about how the wiener mobile would be in the next Mario Kart the same night.
Post by: MorningStar on December 26, 2006, 02:45:03 PM
Post by: Mario on December 26, 2006, 02:57:09 PM
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 26, 2006, 03:18:45 PM
Seriously, you don't need a save sense the every NES game has that Wii Menu exit save feature. Just make sure you find and collect every Extra Man you can get in the game...and you will be fine.
Also, remember the warp pipes are your friends. You can get to world 8 by only playing a total of like 6 Stages.
Post by: MorningStar on December 26, 2006, 03:35:40 PM
A save feature wouldn't hurt whatsoever.
EDIT: took out redundancies
Post by: Kairon on December 26, 2006, 04:15:41 PM
... Or buy Super Mario All Stars on your Super Nintendo!
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
via Wii Opera Browser
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 26, 2006, 04:43:33 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on December 26, 2006, 04:58:44 PM
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Originally posted by: SixthAngel Actually putting something on sale can be a surprise. And I guarantee many Wii owners were happy and surprised when they found out they could download Mario Bros. today. If the Wii went on sale early or if Nintendo released a game like Metroid, SSBB, or Wario Ware early everyone would be surprised and call it that. You just don't want this game so you say this.
"I'd hate to ruin the surprise. Is there activity that we're working on for before the holidays? The answer is yes," said Reggie.
Either this is the poorest phrasing job in the world or SMB isn't the surprise. The reason why it wasn't reviewed by the ESRB is because it was already given a rating when it was released on either the GBA, e-Reader cards, or Animal Crossing, hence why it's appearance was considered a surprise because it came in under the radar.
SMB isn't the surprise. If there is one, this wasn't it.
And please, don't sit there with a straight face and try to tell me that the release of SMB on the VC carries 1/1,000th of the weight that the Wii or any of its highly-anticipated games launching early would carry, mainly because, unlike the Wii and its new games, you can already play SMB in at least 3 other legal mediums.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 26, 2006, 05:17:55 PM
And putting something for sale can only be considered a surprise if the item is really rare and the opportunity to buy it arises all of a sudden. Like for example, you go to a Best buy, they don't have Wiis in stock, then all of a sudden they announce 40 Wiis for sale at half the price.
Now THAT is what I call a surprise...
Post by: Kairon on December 26, 2006, 05:21:49 PM
This was a surprise for all the NON-Internet obsessed gaming-news-obsessed Wii owners out there... a.k.a. 99.99% of the population!
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on December 26, 2006, 05:35:18 PM
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 26, 2006, 05:50:00 PM
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Originally posted by: VGrevolution
Have you guys possible considered the suprise was either the Internet Channel or the Weather Channel?
Again, those were expected by the end of the year. I think the weather channel was dated before Reggie made the comment.
In order for something to be a surprise, you must NOT see it coming. It should be completely unexpected.
Again, if the surprise was a VC game we never expect or a brand new Wii channel that was suddenly announced and released free of charge, then it could've been considered a surprise.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on December 26, 2006, 05:52:27 PM
Post by: SixthAngel on December 26, 2006, 06:11:03 PM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Oh you hardcore internet gamers... *tsk* *tsk* *tsk*
This was a surprise for all the NON-Internet obsessed gaming-news-obsessed Wii owners out there... a.k.a. 99.99% of the population!
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
This is what I meant by most Wii owners will be surprised and then I brought up things that internet obsessed Wii fans would get excited about. The size of the announcement has nothing to do with whether it is a surprise. This is a prime example of overhyping. I'm sure many Wii owners were surprised and excited when SMB was available on Christams so they could use the Wii points someone gave them. I can picture a lot of people I know doing just that.
Post by: Blue Plant on December 26, 2006, 06:35:12 PM
Post by: UncleBob on December 26, 2006, 09:26:31 PM
Also, as far as the date on the Weather Channel and Opera... Up until I got my Wii home and set it up, I thought these two (and the news channel) were supposed to be included on Day One. You know, since they were saying how the system would do it and all. Merry Christmas, here's partial functionalty on your $250 system. And the option to buy a 20 year old game that you probably already have.
Seriously, I don't think Nintendo "owes" us a Christmas Present. And I'm not at all unhappy with my $250 purchase. But those of you who are sitting there acting like Reggie and those at Nintendo are Gods and we're lucky enough that they even considered 'giving' us what they have (and by 'giving', I mean us paying $250+), pull your heads out of your back sides...
Post by: Pittbboi on December 27, 2006, 02:25:50 AM
Anyone trying to make a 20 year old SMB out to be an acceptable "surprise" is spending too much time of their day covering for Nintendo. SMB, the internet channel, Opera, these are all things that should have been on the console day 1. These are basic features we were promised, so I'm not going to sit up here and congratulate Nintendo for "surprising" us with features that really should have already been there.
Also, don't kid yourself: Reggie knew who was talking to when he made that announcement. If the Reggie wasn't talking to the "internet-obsessed" with that announcement he sure picked the wrong venue. Only two types of people would hear or care about this announcement: gamers who knew about it, and gamers who didn't. Most people who knew about this "surprise" (and aren't lying to themselves) are pretty disappointed, because eventually having SMB on the VC was already a given, and to most long overdue. Same for the gamers who didn't know about this announcement, because in no known universe does a 20 year old game (even Mario) carry the type of sway that Nintendo still thinks it does.
Non-gamers, in my opinion, don't factor because if they were never gamers and the Wii is their first system I really don't see the VC (full of games they never played and never wanted to play) having any appeal for them at this point in time, period.
Post by: Ceric on December 27, 2006, 03:22:46 AM
Disappointing very disappointing. They could have just sent me a card celebrating non-denominational Toy Day.
Post by: Smash_Brother on December 27, 2006, 03:36:32 AM
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Originally posted by: VGrevolution
Have you guys possible considered the suprise was either the Internet Channel or the Weather Channel?
I was thinking that, but like UB said, both of those were promised at some point earlier on.
Though, the early internet beta WAS a bit of a surprise, certainly more than SMB on the VC.
Now, if they suddenly released Chrono Trigger, Earthbound and/or translated Fire Emblem 1-5 on the VC...MEGATOOOOOOOON!
Post by: Artimus on December 27, 2006, 03:44:33 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on December 27, 2006, 03:50:43 AM
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Originally posted by: Artimus Hahahaha. I read this thread and just go "Who cares?"
You just described 99% of the internet.
This is a Nintendo forum where Nintendo lovers talk about Nintendo sh*t, "caring" is strictly optional.
Post by: D_MaN87 on December 27, 2006, 04:27:41 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on December 27, 2006, 05:09:07 AM
"I'd hate to ruin the surprise. Is there activity that we're working on for before the holidays? The answer is yes," said Reggie.
We still have one holiday left, a universal holiday: New Year's.
But while I'm not holding my breath, I find what Reggie said enigmatic: an "activity we're working on" sure doesn't sound like bringing a game to the VC.
I need to find what the question was...I think VG is right: I'm betting it was bringing the Opera browser out before xmas.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 27, 2006, 06:14:53 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on December 27, 2006, 06:24:21 AM
I've won Reggie's game once, but I sadly need to win it two more times to meet the needs of current friends...
