Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 10, 2006, 08:48:36 AM
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'This Week' column in Yomiuri Shimbun morning edition reports that Square-Enix will hold a Dragon Quest presentation this Tuesday (12th December).
Details about it are unclear at this point but its likely that Dragon Quest Monster Joker (DS) and Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors (Wii) will be present.
Still unknown at this point if new Dragon Quest games will be announced.
I'm prety sure they wouldn't hold a press onference w/o something NEW to announce would they?
Anyone think this could be the long awaited DQ9 for Wii announcement or is it still too early?
p.s. 3000th post!!!! pop the Champagne and throw some confetti, I'm havin a party!!!
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 10, 2006, 09:09:31 AM
Post by: Ceric on December 10, 2006, 10:01:58 AM
Post by: Artimus on December 10, 2006, 10:06:06 AM
Post by: The Omen on December 10, 2006, 10:12:02 AM
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Originally posted by: Artimus
DQ9 exclusively for PS3. Because they're just that stupid.
Agree.
Post by: Hocotate on December 10, 2006, 10:32:42 AM
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Post by: Viewtiful mario on December 10, 2006, 10:49:07 AM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 10, 2006, 11:20:17 AM
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Originally posted by: Artimus
DQ9 exclusively for PS3. Because they're just that stupid.
I have to agree with this as well.
I honestly don't see the next DQ game being a Wii exclusive. As much as I believe Square when they say that they don't want Sony to be the market leader they are still supporting Sony.
As for the conference I suspect the following:
- Square/Dragon quest games for the VC in Japan
- Re-release/remakes of the classic DQ games on the GBA/DS (considering the success of the FFIII remake on the DS I wouldn't be surprised if they greenlight a DQ remake)
- New footage of DQ Yangus (the DQ spin off starring Yangus from DQ VIII)
- New info and footage of Itadaki Street special featuring Mario
- The unveiling of DQ 9 for one of the next gen consoles
I may be wrong so all of these may not happen, but considering some of these are the latest games under the DQ name this is the perfect opportunity to show them all off.
Post by: Viewtiful mario on December 10, 2006, 11:33:09 AM
Here's another prediction: the wii gets another spinoff of a greater game that's on the PS2/3
If they were really stupid they's make FF13 for the 360 because of how well Blue dragon increased it's popularty.
Post by: Dasmos on December 10, 2006, 12:27:20 PM
Post by: Mario on December 10, 2006, 12:32:54 PM
Hopefully they have looked at the latest Media Create
Post by: Ceric on December 10, 2006, 02:25:33 PM
Post by: Artimus on December 10, 2006, 02:55:08 PM
Post by: ThePerm on December 10, 2006, 03:04:54 PM
Post by: Darc Requiem on December 11, 2006, 02:20:03 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on December 11, 2006, 02:28:20 AM
Post by: ryancoke on December 11, 2006, 02:28:47 AM
Post by: Ceric on December 11, 2006, 02:34:50 AM
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Originally posted by: ryancoke
Dragon Quest 9 for PS2 and Wii sounds reasonable. Here's a thought... Say DQ9 is announced for PS2 and Wii. Would it be possible for developers to put a "PS3 mode" into the PS2 version that would up the resolution, texture detail, etc when played on a PS3? This would also apply to GCN/Wii if there was anything good still coming out on the GCN.
No. Because of the space requirements at the minimum for the extra detailed stuff. Now lets say that Wii games could be on GCN discs and PS3 games could be on PS2 discs. They could on the other hand take advantage of the faster processors in other ways that didn't involve keeping large assets on a disc.
Post by: nitsu niflheim on December 11, 2006, 02:51:25 AM
Having both Final Fantasy main series and Dragon Quest main series on one system is going against the statement that S-E made about not wanting Sony or Nintendo having too much of a market share.
Post by: couchmonkey on December 11, 2006, 04:56:23 AM
Not that it would be unappreciated, and without more Square Enix Nintendo won't dominate the way it could. I want DQ9 on Wii as much as anybody, but I'm mentally preparing myself for disappointment.
Post by: nitsu niflheim on December 11, 2006, 05:38:40 AM
Post by: JonLeung on December 11, 2006, 05:54:43 AM
I actually liked Legend Of Mana, but to each his own, I guess. But that's true, at some point Square(-Enix) slipped. Perhaps after printing money with their most-overrated-game-in-the-world Final Fantasy VII in the world, they just didn't put as much effort into their games since they knew the Square name would sell a game regardless. Or something. Or maybe it's just that expectations have raised with each of their good games that everything less is a disappointment, so maybe they shouldn't churn out games as fast as they do. Generally their games are probably still decent (if I ever owned a PS2, Kingdom Hearts is on the short list of games I'd play, and yes, even FF X and XII just because I played the first nine, but then again maybe that's my problem), and maybe I'm just all oldschool, but I missed the Square(soft) Super Nintendo RPGs. I honestly wouldn't mind even playing FF: Mystic Quest again. Yes, I said it. Tristam is cool.
Post by: nitsu niflheim on December 11, 2006, 05:57:40 AM
Post by: JonLeung on December 11, 2006, 06:21:56 AM
But DQ isn't as popular worldwide as FF. I wonder why DQ is so big in Japan, sometimes even more popular than FF! Slimes > Chocobos?
Post by: Darkheart on December 11, 2006, 06:38:13 AM
Just look at how beautiful it is for a ds game. . . .
Square really knows how to push the limits of the system they are working on. This and Chocobo's magic storybook look like 2 of the most beautiful ds games coming out in the near future.
Post by: segagamer12 on December 11, 2006, 06:50:03 AM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on December 11, 2006, 07:05:36 AM
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I have never played DQ game.
you suck at games then.
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 11, 2006, 07:26:12 AM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on December 11, 2006, 07:53:56 AM
Post by: ryancoke on December 11, 2006, 08:05:43 AM
Post by: JonLeung on December 11, 2006, 08:33:34 AM
Post by: MysticGohan on December 11, 2006, 08:38:48 AM
Post by: SixthAngel on December 11, 2006, 08:43:52 AM
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Originally posted by: ryancoke
DQ8 for the PS2 was freakin awesome. Best RPG since FFIV
I am playing it right now and I am loving it. It has a very old school feel to it and the cel shading is great. In battle the enemies look so close to their 2d counterparts its scary. It rivals other games as the best cel shading in a game yet.
Post by: ryancoke on December 11, 2006, 09:32:23 AM
Post by: UniversalJuan on December 11, 2006, 09:41:06 AM
Post by: Crimm on December 11, 2006, 05:07:22 PM
for the Nintendo DS
http://www.famitsu.com/blog/express/2006/12/ixds.html
Post by: Artimus on December 11, 2006, 05:08:07 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 11, 2006, 05:13:07 PM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
I have to agree with Darc: it's way too early in the game for Squenix to be dropping any MEGATOOOOOOONS just yet.
O RLY? S-E says otherwise... :p
All kidding aside...all I have to say is...HOLY CRAP.
We all knew the DS was successful, but....DAMN!
I don't know what else to say...
Post by: The Traveller on December 11, 2006, 06:45:01 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 11, 2006, 06:52:26 PM
Post by: Crimm on December 11, 2006, 07:06:21 PM
Think about it. Look at Japanese sales figures.
The week of November 27th to December 3rd
- 1 PS2
2 Wii
3 Wii
4 Wii
5 GBA
6 PS2
7 DS
8 DS
9 Wii
10 DS
11 DS
12 DS
13 DS
14 DS
15 DS
16 PS2
17 DS
18 PS2
19 PSP
20 PS2
21 Wii
22 DS
23 DS
24 PS2
25 DS
26 DS
27 DS
28 Wii
29 DS
30 PS2
Half of the top 30 games are DS games. Granted there are a lot of Wii games on that list, but remember that was the Wii's launch week. I think there is a real chance this is the start of some new trend where major IPs don't just do side games on handhelds.
Post by: WuTangTurtle on December 11, 2006, 07:22:45 PM
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But DQ isn't as popular worldwide as FF. I wonder why DQ is so big in Japan, sometimes even more popular than FF! Slimes > Chocobos?
I would say that is because when DQ came out in America, are little minds didn't catch on to that style of play until much later and by then it was Final Fantasy that was being delivered to us. Japan on the other hand I believe got DQ first and fell in love with it from the start.
I can't wait to get my RPG fix, Children of Mana, FFIII, FF: Crystal Chronicles, Tales of the Tempest, and now DQ!
Oh and Thanks for the Screenshots Darkheart, i just drooled all over my keyboard
Edit: fixed Italics, and added thanks to Darkheart!
Post by: Kairon on December 11, 2006, 07:33:06 PM
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Post by: Crimm on December 11, 2006, 07:35:22 PM
In Europe only Dragon Quest VIII and Dragon Warrior Monsters have been released, so the brand had very little recognition.
Post by: xanrastafari on December 11, 2006, 08:01:18 PM
It didn't sell because it was VERY old school.
Post by: Crimm on December 11, 2006, 08:07:46 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 11, 2006, 10:42:41 PM
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Originally posted by: Crimm
We had that long drought of Dragon Warrior (as they series was called in the US until Dragon Quest VIII). We got Dragon Warrior (I-IV) on the NES, and Final Fantasy. However, Enix of America closed and as such did not bring later Dragon Warrior (V, VI, VII) games to the US, where as SquareSoft (except III) brought Final Fantasy over. As such the series never had a continuous cache in the US. Final Fantasy became THE STANDARD.
In Europe only Dragon Quest VIII and Dragon Warrior Monsters have been released, so the brand had very little recognition.
This proves my theory that they might re-release the missing DQ games through the VC or as remakes or re-releases.
I think some people are severely underestimating how this piece of news will affect Nintendo, the DS and the Wii. I see nothing but great things for Nintendo.
Post by: LunaticFringe on December 11, 2006, 10:47:07 PM
but i read somewhere that SE may have an of Mana MMO in the mix for Wii, and I think the site said it got its info from Famitsu. Whether any of this is true, I don't know.
I mean this can't be true, or I died and went to heaven....
Post by: D_MaN87 on December 12, 2006, 12:20:01 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on December 12, 2006, 02:19:35 AM
Post by: ryancoke on December 12, 2006, 02:46:56 AM
Post by: D_MaN87 on December 12, 2006, 02:57:53 AM
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Yeah, it would have meant a lot more to Wii than to DS, but I think that's exactly why Square Enix put it on DS. I don't think the company wants Wii doing "too well", and right now all indicators suggest that Wii is ready to kick some serious butt.
I don't see square making that choice based on how well wii is doing currently. PS3 is still getting final fantasy after all. Square from what I've read is disgruntled with Sony, so I don't see why they wouldn't put DQ on the wii to help it further compete with Sony. I mean face it, once FF13 hits japan PS3 by all means should sell like hot cakes.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 12, 2006, 03:51:59 AM
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Yeah, it would have meant a lot more to Wii than to DS, but I think that's exactly why Square Enix put it on DS. I don't think the company wants Wii doing "too well", and right now all indicators suggest that Wii is ready to kick some serious butt.
I don't see square making that choice based on how well wii is doing currently. PS3 is still getting final fantasy after all. Square from what I've read is disgruntled with Sony, so I don't see why they wouldn't put DQ on the wii to help it further compete with Sony. I mean face it, once FF13 hits japan PS3 by all means should sell like hot cakes.
Yeah but like I said, the Wii was just released, so I wouldn't be surprised if Square is waiting to see how the Wii and its games do before pursuing anymore games on the system. Besides, they already have FF CC and DQ swords for the launch window, so the support is there.
Also, remember that it took Square nearly a year for them to reveal Before Crisis FFVII for the PSP, and I wouldn't be surprised if one of the reasons was that they were doubting if the PSP was going to take off. Its true that the PS3 has FFXIII and its spin off games, but I'm guessing Sony is paying them off to have that game exclusive. I mean, considering that the PS3 has very little killer apps, canning the game would kill it for good.
And one last thing, DQ is far more popular than FF in Japan. Not only is DQ one of the first RPG series in Japan (the creator of Final Fantasy even admitted that he was extremely inspired by DQ), its so popular that they created a law that demands the DQ games to be released on a weekend because schools and companies fear that its employees and students buy the game and play hooky. Can you mention any other series that has this type of power?
Post by: Ceric on December 12, 2006, 03:54:04 AM
But I still want a release date on the Dragon Quest game for Wii. (Swords something or another.)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 12, 2006, 04:33:36 AM
QuoteThis is an extremely old rumor
Originally posted by: LunaticFringe
sold me for being dumb and kind of trying to derail this topic -- not intentional -- I didn't want to start a new topic for a rumor that involves SE.
but i read somewhere that SE may have an of Mana MMO in the mix for Wii, and I think the site said it got its info from Famitsu. Whether any of this is true, I don't know.
I mean this can't be true, or I died and went to heaven....
Look in here and then hit "control F" and look up the word mana, or just scroll down to 07/14/2006
Post by: segagamer12 on December 12, 2006, 04:38:29 AM
Post by: Pittbboi on December 12, 2006, 09:18:24 AM
I played Dragon Quest VII too, and while I won't say it was the WORST RPG I've ever played, it was definitely far from being one of the best (and nowhere near the quality of most Final Fantasies, if you ask me). I really don't understand the hype surrounding this series, and the screens and videos don't look interesting at all. But that might be because I can't stand Akira Toriyama and his 'One Face Fits All' art style. So yeah, this is no megaton for me. DQ on DS might make waves in Japan, but I don't see it making much of a splash here in the states.
But don't get me wrong, it's SILL nice to see them supporting Nintendo. But I won't consider Square-Enix fully on board with Nintendo again until they put a serious, big-budget, mega-hyped (doesn't have to be the big FF or DQ, but something that seems like there's been just as much thought put into it, and not some doomed from the start side-project like FF:CC) RPG on a Nintendo home console.
