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Title: System Update
Post by: ryancoke on November 29, 2006, 01:57:57 PM
I just logged into the shopping channel at 8pm mountain standard time and was told with a prompt to do a system update and then log back into the shopping channel. I was really excited because I thought maybe they released Opera but to my disappointment, I can't see any differences at all. Anybody know what was changed?
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: NeoThunder on November 29, 2006, 02:20:14 PM
I got the update too, it still says ver. 2.0U in the Wii settings

It's probley something in the background that you don't see, like processing of Wii Points when you buy them.  I know for some reason there was a mistake when I bought Wii points and I was charged twice for points I did not buy, and for the mistake, Nintendo credited my account 1000 Wii points and refunded me my money
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: BlkPaladin on November 29, 2006, 02:33:23 PM
Also they still have the SD card problems of not being able to copy games, saves etc to an SD card for backup.  
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: MarioAllStar on November 29, 2006, 02:35:33 PM
After the update, my Wii said that parental controls were now availible. I never tried to use them before, but I was under the assumption that they already worked. Why the shopping channel would want me to update something like that I don't know.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: wandering on November 29, 2006, 02:42:04 PM
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After the update, my Wii said that parental controls were now availible.

Yeah, I've been wondering about that. I think each Wii update may give you general "tip" that doesn't have anything to do with the update itself, but I'm not sure.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: NeoThunder on November 29, 2006, 02:46:19 PM
I remember it saying that last week when I got my first update with it, I'm guessing it had nothing to do with that
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Rhoq on November 29, 2006, 03:02:27 PM
I've been running 2.0U since November 19th (it's the version my Wii updated to when I first set-up the system and downloaded software updates). Weird.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: UncleBob on November 29, 2006, 03:14:44 PM
I got the message about the update.  Perhaps the update is the big surprise Reggie said we'd get.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: MarioAllStar on November 29, 2006, 03:30:41 PM
Reggie ordered that all of our systems have a backdoor so he can steal our information, corrupt our files, and plastered his Mii across all Mii Plazas.  
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Ceric on November 29, 2006, 04:54:46 PM
It's Newsbot.  He's final making his play for domination.  Sleep loaded tonight folks.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Kosto on November 29, 2006, 05:18:29 PM
Did you guys notice the spelling error on there? lmao it says "... When you return to the Wii Shop Channnel, you will ..."
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: WuTangTurtle on November 29, 2006, 07:39:52 PM
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Originally posted by: MarioAllStar
Reggie ordered that all of our systems have a backdoor so he can steal our information, corrupt our files, and plastered his Mii across all Mii Plazas.


Oh my God he wasn't kidding when he said "I'm about kicking ass and taking names", who knew he was literally gonna take our names!
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: armedalliance on November 29, 2006, 11:13:31 PM
It would be cool if Nintendo sent you some wii-mail either prior or after things like this, or when new games were released in the shop. Would look a bit more professional. I mean it wouldn't be that hard, lol, just have people sign up for a newsletter and enter their e-mail Wii #'s and Nintendo could easily just send it out to all those wii-mails to inform on pretty much everything we want :P

Plus it would just look nice on their behalf.

Anyways, I'll speculate that maybe there was probably an issue with the wii shop that didn't properly check or use the parental lock (maybe they're trying to/have  put in something so that you can't buy anything while the parental lock is on? Dunno... doesn't matter either way, nothing critical done really regardless I'm sure.

And haha, you know it's only a matter of time before Reggie'll release his wii friend code to the masses and then EVERYONE's gonna want his Mii :P (and unless he has a different method for allowing that sort of thing or an unreleased update to accomodate more Wii #'s you know those spots would be extremely limited)
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: bmmontfort on November 29, 2006, 11:20:19 PM
What I would like to see from an update is this: Support for the clasic controler for gamecube games. + a way to move my gamecube game saves to the internal memory
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: Dozy Boy on November 30, 2006, 01:08:27 AM
Interestingly, this update did something odd to my Wii, but only for a few minutes late last night. I had just gotten off the Shop Channel to play a Virtual Console game, then I hopped right back on Shop. It told me to do the update thing and I got all excited about the Internet possibility. I updated and got on shop again. Black screen.       And more black screen. No Remote response.  Okay. Well I'll just make a sandwich. One sandwich later and... black screen.

So I reset the system and tried again. And again. Black screen. Reset. Um... try ystem update? To my surprise there was one already. I got all excited again, downloaded, and went to the Shop Channel. It was right back to the normal way, just like you guys said. I assumed at the time that they had been trying to do something cool, but messed up and just put the old system files back on for me until they figured it out. So it's possible that you downloaded exactly what you already had. Probably not, but maybe.

Nintendo needs to quality check more before they brick my channels.  
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: ryancoke on November 30, 2006, 03:18:57 AM
I like the idea of a wiimail message sent by nintendo after an update with the update particulars. I kinda feel cheated when I get an update and I don't even know what it was for.
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: JonLeung on November 30, 2006, 03:40:44 AM
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Originally posted by: Dozy Boy
Interestingly, this update did something odd to my Wii, but only for a few minutes late last night. I had just gotten off the Shop Channel to play a Virtual Console game, then I hopped right back on Shop. It told me to do the update thing and I got all excited about the Internet possibility. I updated and got on shop again. Black screen.       And more black screen. No Remote response.  Okay. Well I'll just make a sandwich. One sandwich later and... black screen.

So I reset the system and tried again. And again. Black screen. Reset. Um... try ystem update? To my surprise there was one already. I got all excited again, downloaded, and went to the Shop Channel. It was right back to the normal way, just like you guys said. I assumed at the time that they had been trying to do something cool, but messed up and just put the old system files back on for me until they figured it out. So it's possible that you downloaded exactly what you already had. Probably not, but maybe.

Nintendo needs to quality check more before they brick my channels.


I got the black screen too when it told me to go back and update.  I couldn't do anything but power off.  After a few seconds of being scared after turning the power back on and still no response, the familiar health and safety thing came back on.  Phew!  I don't know what that was about.

One thing I just noticed yesterday (though I think it was before the update) - have the blank Wii Channel spaces always had that slight "snow" effect?  I don't remember seeing it before yesterday, and I've been playing the Wii every day since launch...
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Edfishy on November 30, 2006, 04:21:14 AM
You know, Nintendo really should have a blog somewhere where the developers of the system patches can keep the fans aprised of future updates, when certain patches will be expected to arrive, etc.

It sure would be a lot more friendlier than a corporate e-mail every six months.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: ShyGuy on August 06, 2007, 07:29:34 PM
3.0U SUCKAS!! (Should I have made a new thread?) Digital Clock is a Halo kiler. CONFIRMED.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Mashiro on August 06, 2007, 07:33:26 PM
Digital clock!?!?!!

Must check out wii!
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 06, 2007, 07:39:05 PM
Why must I be away from my Wii?
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Sarail on August 06, 2007, 07:46:49 PM
Also!

You can now organize your roster in the Wii Friends List!  GREAT!  Finally.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Adrock on August 06, 2007, 07:54:26 PM
Downloading very slowly for me. I blame the stupid Super Scope I bought. By just being in my house, it is ruining everything.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Mashiro on August 06, 2007, 07:57:47 PM
The download was extremely slow for me as well Adrock.

Other noticeable difference: The bottom bar of the Wii's menu system is a darker gray than before. Also (correct me if I am wrong) scrolling screens now just moves the upper half of the Wii menu and the now darker gray area remains where it is. Subtle difference.

Also when you access your address book it shows your Wii Number page first (it used to open to the first page by default, I found it confusing to find my Wii number because of that haha).
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Sarail on August 06, 2007, 07:57:56 PM
Also again!  This is even better!

The Wii Shop Channel just got a heck of a lot more organized.  You can now search by typing in the game name (partial name, too), and you can also search by what's being downloaded the most, AND there's a new "Recommended Games" option, too!

Way to go, Ninty!  I like this update very much so.  
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Mashiro on August 06, 2007, 08:00:42 PM
Wow nice update to the Wii Shop Channel! I didn't even think to check that!
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 06, 2007, 08:00:58 PM
OMG!! There is external HDD support and I can also play my VC games off of my SD card!!
I would've never thought that Nintendo would allow that so soon.
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: Mashiro on August 06, 2007, 08:02:12 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
OMG!! There is external HDD support and I can also play my VC games off of my SD card!!
I would've never thought that Nintendo would allow that so soon.


If that's true this is a slam dunk update wow.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Sarail on August 06, 2007, 08:02:19 PM
Wait... are you serious?
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 06, 2007, 08:02:49 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Rachtman
Also again!  This is even better!

The Wii Shop Channel just got a heck of a lot more organized.  You can now search by typing in the game name (partial name, too), and you can also search by what's being downloaded the most, AND there's a new "Recommended Games" option, too!

Way to go, Ninty!  I like this update very much so.  


Heck Xbox 360 Marketplace doesn't have a search feature like that. About time too,t hat was getting to be a jumbled mess.
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: Sarail on August 06, 2007, 08:15:54 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
OMG!! There is external HDD support and I can also play my VC games off of my SD card!!
I would've never thought that Nintendo would allow that so soon.

Where did you find this out?  I haven't seen anything on the interface yet that proves this.

Also, the digital clock is sweet.  Love it.
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: Kairon on August 06, 2007, 09:18:41 PM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
OMG!! There is external HDD support and I can also play my VC games off of my SD card!!
I would've never thought that Nintendo would allow that so soon.


...I hate you.
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: anubis6789 on August 06, 2007, 09:27:01 PM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
OMG!! There is external HDD support and I can also play my VC games off of my SD card!!
I would've never thought that Nintendo would allow that so soon.


...I hate you.


I think he just heard it over on Gamefaqs, which is the only other place I could find mention of HDD support, and I think he just wanted to be the first to say something without checking it out for himself. I do not think that BlackNMild2k1 had any malicious intent and should be forgiven...

Unless he did find a way to do it, in which case I want to know how.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Ghisy on August 06, 2007, 09:34:32 PM
Ah funny, I checked for updates 2 days ago and now 3.0!
Updating right now!!
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: Shift Key on August 06, 2007, 10:17:36 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Edfishy
You know, Nintendo really should have a blog somewhere where the developers of the system patches can keep the fans aprised of future updates, when certain patches will be expected to arrive, etc.

It sure would be a lot more friendlier than a corporate e-mail every six months.


What? Its essentially a collection of minor updates. All this excitement is misplaced because its equivalent to updating antivirus software.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: The Traveller on August 06, 2007, 11:16:49 PM
Apparently this update stops PAL Wii's from doing the disk swap trick to boot NTSC Cube games..  
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: UERD on August 07, 2007, 01:51:22 AM
Is it true that the fan runs even when the system is in standby mode now? And where's my demo channel?
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: Nile Boogie on August 07, 2007, 03:24:25 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
OMG!! There is external HDD support and I can also play my VC games off of my SD card!!
I would've never thought that Nintendo would allow that so soon.


That's just wrong!  
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: cubist on August 07, 2007, 05:24:48 AM
BlackNMild2k1...that was wrong...but for those of us who didn't fall for it...that was just plain freakin' hillarious!  Mua hahahahaha!
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Ghisy on August 07, 2007, 09:51:33 AM
Argh, I just found out my old Action Replay for GC doesn't work on the updated Wii anymore.
Sucky...
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 07, 2007, 09:56:08 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Ghisy
Argh, I just found out my old Action Replay for GC doesn't work on the updated Wii anymore.
Sucky...


It doesn't work at all?!?!? I just bought one.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Ghisy on August 07, 2007, 09:59:46 AM
Well mine is an old version but it still worked on my Wii.
Now I just get (and I tried several times) the "an error has occured" black screen and tells me to eject the disc and turn off the Wii.
No fun!
Try your newest version and let us know.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Mikintosh on August 07, 2007, 11:20:06 AM
Um, the update just killed my Wii?

I installed it from the menu, as I had it unplugged over night, then when I tried to go to main menu after it installed, it was just a black screen. Turn it off and on again, press A on the remote, and it's still a black screen. The hell?

Oh, and I didn't mod it at all; I don't even know how, frankly.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Smash_Brother on August 07, 2007, 01:20:27 PM
This is a pretty bland update.

Give us the HDD update already, dammit!
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Chozo Ghost on August 07, 2007, 01:25:56 PM
Digital clock? Man, I've got one of those on my Cable box already. Couldn't they add a grandfather clock or something with a cuckoo that comes out to announce the time?
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 07, 2007, 01:30:37 PM
Need Daisy splash screens and wallpaper.
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: stevey on August 07, 2007, 01:40:34 PM
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Originally posted by: Mikintosh
Um, the update just killed my Wii?

I installed it from the menu, as I had it unplugged over night, then when I tried to go to main menu after it installed, it was just a black screen. Turn it off and on again, press A on the remote, and it's still a black screen. The hell?

Oh, and I didn't mod it at all; I don't even know how, frankly.


Try leaving it on for a few minutes, it might be the wii black screen of death why can't the wii still copy urls
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Kairon on August 07, 2007, 04:08:09 PM
So... howsabout that keyboard support? Not in internet channel yet, but only a matter of time now...
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Nile Boogie on August 07, 2007, 04:56:33 PM
Keyboard support for Metroid Prime 3. Beleive!
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 07, 2007, 05:02:41 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: anubis6789
Quote

Originally posted by: Kairon
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
OMG!! There is external HDD support and I can also play my VC games off of my SD card!!
I would've never thought that Nintendo would allow that so soon.


...I hate you.


I think he just heard it over on Gamefaqs, which is the only other place I could find mention of HDD support, and I think he just wanted to be the first to say something without checking it out for himself. I do not think that BlackNMild2k1 had any malicious intent and should be forgiven...

Unless he did find a way to do it, in which case I want to know how.

How dare you accuse me of recycling garbage from GameFAQs. I would only visit that site if I was in dire need of help in a game and none of you were of any use.

And all you hate just makes Leonidas all the more happy (as if that was possible)


Title: RE: System Update
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 07, 2007, 06:19:27 PM
Fantastic.
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: Mikintosh on August 07, 2007, 06:22:56 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Quote

Originally posted by: anubis6789
Quote

Originally posted by: Kairon
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
OMG!! There is external HDD support and I can also play my VC games off of my SD card!!
I would've never thought that Nintendo would allow that so soon.


...I hate you.


I think he just heard it over on Gamefaqs, which is the only other place I could find mention of HDD support, and I think he just wanted to be the first to say something without checking it out for himself. I do not think that BlackNMild2k1 had any malicious intent and should be forgiven...

Unless he did find a way to do it, in which case I want to know how.

How dare you accuse me of recycling garbage from GameFAQs. I would only visit that site if I was in dire need of help in a game and none of you were of any use.

And all you hate just makes Leonidas all the more happy (as if that was possible)


Mama mia, that is a wonderfully frightening picture. Update: nothing. I've had it on for an hours stretch, and it's still a black screen. But keeping at it; positive thinking!
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: WuTangTurtle on August 07, 2007, 06:52:03 PM
The whole freeloader thing doesn't bother me much, my Gamecube is sitting at work with naruto accompanying it.  I love lunch breaks
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: Mashiro on August 07, 2007, 07:09:28 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: WuTangTurtle
The whole freeloader thing doesn't bother me much, my Gamecube is sitting at work with naruto accompanying it.  I love lunch breaks


Yeah but it's annoying for those of us who have limited room near our home entertainment centers. =(
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: 31 Flavas on August 07, 2007, 08:22:29 PM
I'm surprised that no one else has reported on this. I've read about the update, but unless i'm blind no one has reported that AOSS is now an option for setting up your internet connection. If you've got a Buffalo router it's a really handy feature.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Ghisy on August 08, 2007, 05:04:27 AM
Didn't think of looking through the internet settings since I use the USB/ethernet adapter.
I'm still bummed by the whole AR/Freeloader thing but I still have my GC so it's not the end of the world...  
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: stevey on August 08, 2007, 07:39:17 AM
Has anyone got the “???” file after updating???
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: EasyCure on August 08, 2007, 08:10:44 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: stevey
Has anyone got the “???” file after updating???


i was curious so i checked, but i dont have it. wonder what that coudl be.

also, i still cant connect online with my wii after this update took place. i checked the connection settings and they're just as they were before but my connection test keeps failing. i have no idea what to do, and i cant check out what my error codes mean since i keep getting errors on nintendos site. actually, i know waht two of the three error codes i've been getting mean (54121 and 52121.. i think) but i noticed i got this 51420 also (confused it for 54121) so i have no idea what it is or what lame suggestions nintendo will give me.

this sucks, hard.

Title: RE:System Update
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on August 08, 2007, 08:18:40 AM
I looked up 51420 for you:
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Error Code: 51420

The Wii console is not able to connect to your wired router or modem.

  1. Make sure that you are using the Wii LAN Adapter made by Nintendo (click here for a picture and connection steps). LAN adapters not made by Nintendo likely will not work with the Wii console.

  2. Ensure that the Wii LAN Adapter setup is correct, and that the Wii LAN Adapter was connected with the console turned off. For step by step connection instructions, please click here.

  3. Check to see if the ethernet cable you are using is not working properly, by connecting another ethernet cable from your router/modem to the Wii LAN Adapter. If the connection works using a different cable, then the problem was with the first cable.

  4. If possible, try another Wii LAN Adapter. If you are unable to try another Wii LAN Adapter, or are still receiving this error code, please call 1-800-255-3700 for assistance.

 
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: Smash_Brother on August 08, 2007, 08:28:51 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: stevey
Has anyone got the “???” file after updating???


Yeah, I do have it.

Wonder what the deal with it is...
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 08, 2007, 08:35:33 AM
Your Wii will self-destruct in an explosion of lime jello.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Ghisy on August 08, 2007, 08:36:15 AM
Nope, I checked and I don't have the "???" file.
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: EasyCure on August 08, 2007, 08:44:47 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: PartyBear
I looked up 51420 for you:
Quote

Error Code: 51420

The Wii console is not able to connect to your wired router or modem.

  1. Make sure that you are using the Wii LAN Adapter made by Nintendo (click here for a picture and connection steps). LAN adapters not made by Nintendo likely will not work with the Wii console.

  2. Ensure that the Wii LAN Adapter setup is correct, and that the Wii LAN Adapter was connected with the console turned off. For step by step connection instructions, please click here.

  3. Check to see if the ethernet cable you are using is not working properly, by connecting another ethernet cable from your router/modem to the Wii LAN Adapter. If the connection works using a different cable, then the problem was with the first cable.

  4. If possible, try another Wii LAN Adapter. If you are unable to try another Wii LAN Adapter, or are still receiving this error code, please call 1-800-255-3700 for assistance.




thanks Partybear, i appreciate the help.

i wrote this in the talkback thread about the update, but i'll repost it here; its too inconveniant for me to try out a different cable, since the one im using stretchest 100' from the router to my wii, and discconnecting/reconnecting it to the television in here is more trouble than its worth.

i dont think the problem is with the cable itself though since its only about a month old. everything was working fine until the morning i checked the update. before i even turned on the wii i had noticed my cable tv wasnt working, which meant my internet wasnt working either so i knew i couldnt update right away. when things started to work and i updated,t he cable went out in the middle of it so i had to wait and restart (had no choice but to turn the power off since they dont give you the option of aborting updates). in a few minutes the cable was back up and running fine, i was able to connect to the internet to download the update (even though the wii settinsg screen already said v3.0..) entirely.

once it was finished i went into the forecast channel to see if anything was different, then the news. thats when i got an error message saying i needed to connect to the internet.. even though i was just connected while downloading the update. since then i've had trouble getting online. the weird thing is when i power down my system the yellow "wiiconnect24" light is on, as opposed to the red light that indicates the system is offline.

Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Ghisy on August 08, 2007, 08:55:49 AM
Well, I got the same error when trying to connect to the internet.
I just went to the wii settings and set my connection as wired again (connection #1 on my Wii) and it worked.
So it seems like you just have to tell the Wii again what's the default connection and that should do it.
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: EasyCure on August 08, 2007, 09:10:12 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Ghisy
Well, I got the same error when trying to connect to the internet.
I just went to the wii settings and set my connection as wired again (connection #1 on my Wii) and it worked.
So it seems like you just have to tell the Wii again what's the default connection and that should do it.


thats the first thing i tried actually, i even made a new connection that is exactly the same as the other wired connection to test that out and i keep getting the same three or four error messages.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: EasyCure on August 08, 2007, 09:35:20 AM
Somehow got everything working. I just disconnected everything else from my network until the wii went online then plugged it all back in.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Mikintosh on August 08, 2007, 02:23:00 PM
So I'm guessing nobody else has had their Wii completely broken by this? Aren't I the lucky one!
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 08, 2007, 04:48:48 PM
Sorry.

I'm holding off on updating for another week to ensure all the problems have been identified.  Just like how you shouldn't install Microsoft's XP patches right away.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: NeoThunder on August 09, 2007, 02:22:45 AM
I saw an article on Digg.com that said the update added some USB keyboard support.  The support doesn't apply to all keyboards and doesn't work in the internet browser, rumor is there will be an updated version of the internet browser that will allow USB keyboard support
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on August 09, 2007, 05:38:59 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mashiro
Also (correct me if I am wrong) scrolling screens now just moves the upper half of the Wii menu and the now darker gray area remains where it is.

That isn't new.  I'm really not sure about whether the color is any different.
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: Rhoq on August 09, 2007, 06:00:40 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: NeoThunder
I saw an article on Digg.com that said the update added some USB keyboard support.  The support doesn't apply to all keyboards and doesn't work in the internet browser, rumor is there will be an updated version of the internet browser that will allow USB keyboard support


I gave it a try last night with a spare USB keyboard I had laying around. I like it so much I plan to pick-up a USB extension cable when I step out for lunch in a little while.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: NeoThunder on August 09, 2007, 06:05:19 AM
is it kinda just like a basic keyboard?......i want to get one but i don't want to keep messing around going back and forth to the store getting keyboards that don't work.  I wana have an idea of what WILL work.

Do you think any wireless keyboards will work......Gotta keep the wireless thing going, haha
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Pale on August 09, 2007, 06:05:47 AM
has anyone tried a wireless keyboard yet?
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: Rhoq on August 09, 2007, 06:12:32 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: NeoThunder
is it kinda just like a basic keyboard?......i want to get one but i don't want to keep messing around going back and forth to the store getting keyboards that don't work.  I wana have an idea of what WILL work.

Do you think any wireless keyboards will work......Gotta keep the wireless thing going, haha


Haven't tried wireless, though I saw it mentioned elsewhere (Kotaku, maybe) that someone tried a bluetooth keyboard and it worked.

Anyways, THIS is the keyboard that I tried last night and it worked flawlessly.
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: Louieturkey on August 09, 2007, 06:16:27 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Pale
has anyone tried a wireless keyboard yet?


Haven't heard of any wireless ones working yet.  Though I am really tempted to try.  I'll grab my parent's wireless and bring it home to see if it works one of these days.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 09, 2007, 08:25:39 AM
I sent SB a message from my wireless keyboard two days ago. It worked fine with no issues.
Now they just need to update the internet channel and we are good to go.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: NeoThunder on August 09, 2007, 11:02:36 AM
I went to wal-mart and bought a cheap $30 wireless keyboard and mouse.....and it works, no problems at all

I'm assuming the some that don't work are the real fancy ones that require their own specific keyboard drivers where basic default drivers will not allow the device to work at all
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: NeoThunder on August 09, 2007, 03:45:56 PM
looks like it changed what the blue pulse looks like on your Wii when you get a message over wiiconnect24 as well
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Athrun Zala on August 09, 2007, 04:05:11 PM
agghh... the clock isn't in 24-hour format >=(
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: tiamat1990 on August 10, 2007, 01:33:04 AM
Argh the clock!
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 10, 2007, 04:31:02 AM
NeoThunder:

Was your Wireless Keyboard Bluetooth and synched right up or what?  

Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Ceric on August 10, 2007, 04:40:49 AM
The Cube had a much much cooler clock.
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: NeoThunder on August 10, 2007, 05:37:23 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
NeoThunder:

Was your Wireless Keyboard Bluetooth and synched right up or what?


No, it's not a blutooth keyboard.  I'm not sure what kind of wireless other than to say it's just a standard, inexpensive, R/F wireless keyboard.

It's actually a ps/2 style connector on it and an ps/2 to USB adapter bought at wal-mart allowed it to work
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Athrun Zala on August 10, 2007, 07:15:14 AM
okay, bigger "arrggghhh!!"... the Internet Channel doesn't work anymore
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 10, 2007, 08:48:03 AM
Wireless keyboards should work - they're basically plug and play. I already have keyboard in my living room that I use for xDSL on my Xbox. Mouse and keyboard support was the one edge that Firefox had on the Wii's Opera browser, but if they add USB support, then I can pretty much ditch xDSL, although the USB ports I installed on my XBox will be lonely.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: bustin98 on August 10, 2007, 07:51:39 PM
I have tried a bluetooth keyboard and no connection. I did use the USB adapter though and it connected no problem.

Now I can't wait to be able to use the keyboard with Opera.
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: Athrun Zala on August 13, 2007, 06:39:58 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Athrun Zala
okay, bigger "arrggghhh!!"... the Internet Channel doesn't work anymore
and now it's working... odd...
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: the1st_fret on August 13, 2007, 09:35:49 AM
I haven't read everything people have read about the update, or if we got the same update here in the UK. Haven't checked the version number, but the new differences here are:

1. Clock now displayed on Wii menu
2. Play history envelopes are now hite, not yellow and have the Internet channels sound effects when you browse up and down your play history.
3. The calendar used to display an envelope on the monthly calendar display for every day you'd played. It doesn't anymore, you can still view them if you click the date. Envelopes are only displayed for events E.G you get a medal in Wii sports or someone has sent you a message.
4. Every time I inseret or eject a disc, the blue drive light flashes.
5.The Wii shop channel looks completely different. Its got a much better layout and I think loads a little faster. You can also search for games on Virtual Console by typing the game name into a search bar.

That's all I've noticed so far. I don't think this is Reggie's surprize, as he said that's coming at the end of September. I'm guessing its something downloadable, seen as this surprize was originally going to be available at launch.

Dan.  
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: NeoThunder on August 13, 2007, 10:04:53 AM
has anyone checked to see if it shows the title in the disk channel when you insert a gamecube disk?
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on August 13, 2007, 10:06:22 AM
It still doesn't.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Blue Plant on August 13, 2007, 10:45:49 AM
Always love updates (the good kind, that is >.>).  I hope one day they lessen the dB of some of the sound effects used to browse the Wii interface.  Ones like cycling through the menus in the control panel are much louder than the rest.  Piercing...  
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: stevey on August 13, 2007, 05:09:49 PM
new update woot! Fixes the wii lan internet and finally fixes the internet channel from frezzing!  
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: NeoThunder on August 14, 2007, 02:11:08 AM
want...keyboard......internet browser
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: the1st_fret on August 14, 2007, 04:00:06 AM
Yeah I was just gonna say, after the update we've been talking about. I got a new one today. Here's what it said:

"A new update for your Wii console is available!

This update will prevent your Wii console from locking up, which can occur when using the internet channel if you press reset on either your wii console or the home menu. This update also corrects some internet connection stability issues when using the Wii LAN adapter from Nintendo.

Please press the update button on the bottom right to update your Wii console.

- - Nintendo."

Oh and I was going to ask, on the subjects of updates. I went to the shop channel, and on some of the titles I'd downloaded, they had an "Updated" tag on them, which was a free download which didn't cost any space or points. When I checked the games they were still the same. What to the VC game updates do?

Thanks.

Dan.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: therat on August 14, 2007, 05:07:14 AM
the net browser sucks Anyway. well, i guess its ok for extremely basic uses, like txt and imgs, not music and video.
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 14, 2007, 07:13:57 AM
I expect an eventual update once Nintendo finally gets a hard drive and keyboard support...in fact, I expect Nintendo to package a hard drive and keyboard together...just a prediction.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Ghisy on August 14, 2007, 08:55:10 AM
It's weird: I never get any message from Nintendo about new updates being available.
I just go to the settings and run the update from there.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Mashiro on August 14, 2007, 08:56:52 AM
My update notices come extremely late. I just got mine this morning even though I had already done the latest update.
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 14, 2007, 08:59:34 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Mashiro
My update notices come extremely late. I just got mine this morning even though I had already done the latest update.


I'm still waiting for the notice about last week's big Wii shop update :p .
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Mashiro on August 14, 2007, 09:04:03 AM
LOL.

I think the same people who are responsible for sending out Wii updates are the ones responsible for sending out the NWR prizes for hot topic winners.

BA-ZING!

Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Kairon on August 14, 2007, 11:18:01 AM
Y'all got WiiConnect 24 on?
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: Kairon on August 14, 2007, 11:21:20 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: the1st_fret
Oh and I was going to ask, on the subjects of updates. I went to the shop channel, and on some of the titles I'd downloaded, they had an "Updated" tag on them, which was a free download which didn't cost any space or points. When I checked the games they were still the same. What to the VC game updates do?


Just small things, like I think a Mario Kart 64 update was to fix a bug where it would freeze if you did something specific, and Star Fox 64's update had to do with control mapping and slow down, and I think they even released an update for that TG16 game Nectaris/Military Madness game that fixed an issue where some stuff would be displayed off the tv screen actually.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 14, 2007, 11:34:29 AM
Didn't the SF64 patch INTRODUCE slowdown?

Nintendo.  Making games worse.  For everyone.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: tiamat1990 on August 14, 2007, 11:05:20 PM
Yeah I'm pretty sure there were pros and cons. You got something good in exchange for slower frame rates.
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: NeoThunder on August 15, 2007, 01:43:07 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
Didn't the SF64 patch INTRODUCE slowdown?

Nintendo.  Making games worse.  For everyone.


the first update did, the second and current one eleminated it
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: Shecky on August 15, 2007, 02:59:38 AM
I never heard of a second patch for SF64... details?
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: the1st_fret on August 17, 2007, 03:52:57 AM
Another couple of updates in version 3 that have gone by un-noticed.

1. On the wii options screen (EG - screen, sensor bar) You can now press + and - to go from the left to right screens, just like the main channel screen. Originally you had to click the arrows on the sides (Yayyyyy)

2. When you recieve a message (Not including play history) the little envelope in the bottom right of the Wii channel screen will pulse and make a noise.

3. Also: before if the Wii was on standby and flashing blue indicating a recieved message, the flashing stopped once you'd turned on the console. The drive now stays flashing blue until you've checked your messages.

4. The drive flashes a different pattern when you get a message to how it used to. It now goes from dark blue, to light blue, then blinks twice before repeating.

Its nice finding little changes like this. Anyone else seen these, or have I missed any?

Dan.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: NeoThunder on August 17, 2007, 04:00:17 AM
i'm pretty sure all have been noticed except number 1
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: EasyCure on August 17, 2007, 04:44:59 AM
actually im pretty sure someone else mentioned being able to change screends in the options/settings menue with the + and - buttons before
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 17, 2007, 09:14:33 AM
I have not experienced the fan turning on in standby mode.
Title: RE:System Update
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 17, 2007, 09:22:49 AM
I am still hearing the clicking sound when the system is going back to the main menu.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 18, 2007, 05:51:52 PM
You're supposed to hear that click.
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: ThePerm on August 19, 2007, 02:07:55 PM
was that clock there before..and the wii shop channel has more options
Title: RE: System Update
Post by: chaingunsofdoom on August 20, 2007, 12:29:47 PM
It looks like the "Everybody Votes Channel" is giving more region specific questions now too. Unless you guys are also getting the questions about Canada every week?
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: vudu on February 25, 2008, 10:05:25 PM
New update available.  3.2

I think it's just a behind-the-scenes update, because nothing looks new from what I can tell.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Smoke39 on February 25, 2008, 10:15:19 PM
That's boring.  Nintendo needs to release more updates that actually do stuff.
Like making their SD card support not suck.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: ShyGuy on February 25, 2008, 10:22:42 PM
This update is supposed to improve performance. Maybe it will fix the long-pause-on-a-black-screen problem that seems to happen if you haven't turned on your Wii for a few days.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: vudu on February 25, 2008, 10:33:32 PM
GOD FORBID.  I use that time to balance my checkbook.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: nitsu niflheim on February 26, 2008, 09:23:08 AM
Update told me  (in a squeaky little voice)  it had to do with if the game requires an update it will say so in the disc channel and if not the game name will show in the disc channel so that you can know right off if you need to update your system to play the game.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Ceric on February 26, 2008, 09:40:10 AM
This gets me about the Nintendo Updates.  I have yet to have one with any real meat to it.  Seriously each and every time I've updated the PS3 I've gotten new support for a something or another.  Be it themes, media streaming, interface changes, etc.  I've heard the 360 is the same way.

Nintendo hasn't really given me anything but backend changes and a clock.  Why I know there important.  I just wish for a little more substance.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 26, 2008, 01:22:16 PM
You mean like real games?
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 26, 2008, 02:47:41 PM
This gets me about the Nintendo Updates.  I have yet to have one with any real meat to it.  Seriously each and every time I've updated the PS3 I've gotten new support for a something or another.  Be it themes, media streaming, interface changes, etc.  I've heard the 360 is the same way.

Nintendo hasn't really given me anything but backend changes and a clock.  Why I know there important.  I just wish for a little more substance.

Care to list what you would like to see changed?  Considering the Wii doesn't need new themes, media-streaming, or interface changes, I just would like to know what else they could possibly do (besides, you know, new channels, which are coming SOMEDAY)...
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: nitsu niflheim on February 26, 2008, 03:03:09 PM
PlanetGamecube was the place to bitch about stuff, NOT NintendoWorldReport!

=P
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on February 26, 2008, 03:05:06 PM
Theme support would be nice, actually.  The sound that plays when you go to the Wii Menu has really started to grate on my nerves.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: vudu on February 26, 2008, 03:08:05 PM
Care to list what you would like to see changed?  Considering the Wii doesn't need new themes, media-streaming, or interface changes, I just would like to know what else they could possibly do (besides, you know, new channels, which are coming SOMEDAY)...

I'd like to see the usual stuff that's requested ... better SD support, a better way to file my VC games, etc.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: NeoThunder on February 26, 2008, 06:12:57 PM
there is obviously more to this update, cause think about it.

Who needs it to display in the disk channel something about updating your console.  Chances are anyone would click the disk channel when they put a disk in anyway, and the moment you do, there is no way to avoid being told about a system update.....that is always on the disk by the way!!!!

this was a firmware update to try and lockdown the hardware from modders.  I don't ever understand why companies just can't come out and say that.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 26, 2008, 06:44:06 PM
Companies suck?
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Ceric on February 26, 2008, 09:25:25 PM
Theme support be nice.  Little clips for games be cool.  Though I would like to have sub-channels.  Maybe be able to set the weather or news as you background.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: vudu on February 26, 2008, 11:34:01 PM
This update is supposed to improve performance. Maybe it will fix the long-pause-on-a-black-screen problem that seems to happen if you haven't turned on your Wii for a few days.

Nope; I can confirm that hasn't changed!
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 20, 2008, 09:19:51 PM
I just was a recipient of a wii mail from Nintendo. The update is for wiiware to download such titles.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: animecyberrat on March 21, 2008, 01:25:32 AM
Why can't we delete the stupid Forcast Channel anyways? I mean that and the Photo Channel are the only 2 I do not use and if I could delete them it would free up a lot of space and 2 more slots.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Chozo Ghost on March 21, 2008, 01:49:49 AM
Why can't we delete the stupid Forcast Channel anyways? I mean that and the Photo Channel are the only 2 I do not use and if I could delete them it would free up a lot of space and 2 more slots.

I agree. I personally don't use the News channel either because if I want the news I can just look that up through the internet channel.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: animecyberrat on March 21, 2008, 02:11:24 AM
Well I use the news channel, can't stand the slow internet channel but I do like the convenience of the news channel. But my Wii is hooked up to my PC so it doesn't really make sense I would use the Internet Channel anyways.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: KDR_11k on March 21, 2008, 04:44:25 AM
New version for Europe. My guerss is that they did it to "fix" the Freeloader.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Gamejunkie on March 21, 2008, 08:50:44 AM
It's already been confirmed by people in Europe that the update does not affect the use of Freeloader. Apparently it's still working just fine even after this update.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on March 21, 2008, 10:40:36 AM
Why can't we delete the stupid Forcast Channel anyways? I mean that and the Photo Channel are the only 2 I do not use and if I could delete them it would free up a lot of space and 2 more slots.

It's because the news and forecast channel was a part of a firmware upgrade and that makes them not removable.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Chozo Ghost on March 21, 2008, 12:04:51 PM
Well I use the news channel, can't stand the slow internet channel but I do like the convenience of the news channel. But my Wii is hooked up to my PC so it doesn't really make sense I would use the Internet Channel anyways.

It might be a bit slower to use the browser t o find the news, but there is an advantage in that it lets you pick which source you get your news from. I'm not saying the News Channel is full of censorship or anything, but there is alot more that happens every day than can be covered by a single source so you're best off using multiple sources. Plus, if you make your news site a favorite in the internet channel it doesn't really take that long to get to it.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: animecyberrat on March 21, 2008, 12:07:41 PM
I know, what I was saying is I have my Wii hooked INTO my PC, so if I want to go online, I close the browser displaying the Wii and use Firefox. I use the news channel for a quick check in the morning as to what is going on in the world only if I am getting on the wii first. Even when I hook the Wii into my TV, my Tv sets next to my PC so I always have access to the "real" internet. But My setup is unique so I can see your point also.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BeautifulShy on June 17, 2008, 12:29:08 AM
The new update allows you to transfer the Miis you aren't using to the Mii Parade.Also any miis that you transfer you won't be able to use in game and you will lose the save data if you send that mii away.There is also something about the Twilight Hack being disabled. But not The Homebrew Channel.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: blackfootsteps on June 17, 2008, 01:15:36 AM
Apparently it blocks the Freeloader and removes any foreign save files as well. Interestingly, Smash Bros comes out in about a week in the PAL regions. Coincidence? 
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: KDR_11k on June 17, 2008, 06:15:19 AM
Yep, that's Nintendo. The update text says something about "unauthorized saves can damage your console, this update deletes them". Yeah, because there's no fucking way I could ever delete saves myself. Time to look for a PSP-style total firmware hack.

Anyway, that just confirms Brawl as a no-buy but can anyone think of another game Nintendo will put out after that? I don't recall them announcing anything beyond Brawl. Or at least nothing that had me listening. The Nintendo Channel doesn't go past Brawl either.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 17, 2008, 09:27:13 AM
Yeah, if you want to install the homebrew channel, do it now, and then update, if you even want the update. It adds almost zero functionality anyway.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Spak-Spang on June 17, 2008, 01:15:37 PM
At least Nintendo was smart enough to add SOMETHING beneficial  instead of just an firmware update to prevent hacks.

Really, Nintendo needs to have a really awesome upgrade though like better SD card support and then lock all hacking out...and perhaps turn the Weather and News channel into actual channels so we can delete them.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 17, 2008, 02:57:51 PM
How do I ad the homebrew channel? Also do any of you guys know if it gimps power saves from the Action Replay?
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Plugabugz on June 17, 2008, 05:41:44 PM
Yep, that's Nintendo. The update text says something about "unauthorized saves can damage your console, this update deletes them". Yeah, because there's no fucking way I could ever delete saves myself. Time to look for a PSP-style total firmware hack.

Anyway, that just confirms Brawl as a no-buy but can anyone think of another game Nintendo will put out after that? I don't recall them announcing anything beyond Brawl. Or at least nothing that had me listening. The Nintendo Channel doesn't go past Brawl either.

The only new DS game is Ninja Gaiden. Woo.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Ceric on June 17, 2008, 08:54:53 PM
I'm Going to now embark on my regular rant.

For goodness sake.  Most updates with my PS3 I get something tangible.  Wii almost never.  Could have at least thrown us a better bone for are get rid of hacks update... blah...
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 22, 2008, 10:43:14 PM
Well there is a new update. I haven't received a wii mail from Nintendo yet so I don't know what it is yet.The Shop Channel is undergoing maintenance though.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: kraken613 on October 22, 2008, 11:02:56 PM
Yep just saw that too.... Im installing now. Seems to be slow. Maybe its a BIG update? Or maybe its just me!

EDIT: Well I don't see any differences. Still 3.3.........
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 22, 2008, 11:15:38 PM
Well there is a new update. I haven't received a wii mail from Nintendo yet so I don't know what it is yet.The Shop Channel is undergoing maintenance though.

Ya I'm waiting on that stupid shop channel to finish that maintenance.

I updated and now the channel works, I don't know if that was a cause and effect thing..
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 22, 2008, 11:30:40 PM
It probably wasn't. I updated first then checked the channel and it didn't work.

I will keep checking wikipedia and my wii to see what the update was.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: kraken613 on October 22, 2008, 11:43:38 PM
Mine didn't work right after the update I'm sure we will find out.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 22, 2008, 11:47:24 PM
It's for GHWT. Just my guess, but I'd put some money on it.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 23, 2008, 12:04:05 AM
You're willing to put money on Nintendo being willing to change their hardware for a third party? Are you sure we're talking about the same Nintendo?
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: nickmitch on October 23, 2008, 12:07:39 AM
No, he's talking about Nintendo with hope.  I can hear it in the supple sound of his words on my screen.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 23, 2008, 12:21:55 AM
What hardware are they changing? It's just a "background" system menu update. You also have to take into account that GH3 is the best selling 3rd party game on the Wii (not counting Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games)...so yeah, they would put a little effort into making the experience better. The 360 version of GH3 has only sold about 100k more than the Wii version, the Wii's install base has already doubled since GH3 was released, so there's a pretty good chance that GHWT will sell more on Wii than PS3 and 360. Nintendo would be insane(olord) not to do anything they can to kiss VV/NS's asses and get rid of the "3rd parties don't sell" stigma.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 23, 2008, 03:19:08 AM
You're lucky you didn't actually put up money on your guess, Brandogg, it was just some minor changes in the Shop Channel. (http://gonintendo.com/?p=60427)
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on October 23, 2008, 11:35:12 AM
Quote
The controller usage explanation screen will be separated from the purchase screen. Along with this, the user will be prompted to confirm that they have any necessary accessories before being able to press the Purchase button.

People were actually dumb enough to buy games they lacked the controllers to play?  Sheesh.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 23, 2008, 01:19:17 PM
Has anybody tried to see if what Insanolord linked to is true or not.
Edit:Nevermind

Title: Re: System Update
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 23, 2008, 01:35:31 PM
So, download or not?
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 23, 2008, 01:57:20 PM
Apparently there's some kind of background change included as well and I'm waiting to see what the ramifications are in terms of homebrew so I'm holding off for now.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 23, 2008, 02:08:35 PM
System Faildate
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Athrun Zala on October 23, 2008, 02:54:14 PM
Apparently there's some kind of background change included as well and I'm waiting to see what the ramifications are in terms of homebrew so I'm holding off for now.
some interesting ones actually... the fakesign bug has been fixed in all IOS (thus, cIOS, DVDX, HBC and other channels, etc can't be installed anymore... things installed before the update seem to work fine though)
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 23, 2008, 03:05:28 PM
The guy at WiiBrew seemed like he'd been expecting this, so I wouldn't be surprised if there's a workaround within a few days.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 23, 2008, 03:40:20 PM
Yeah, this update sucks. Don't install it, unless you install HBC first.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: ATimson on October 23, 2008, 05:45:34 PM
You're lucky you didn't actually put up money on your guess, Brandogg, it was just some minor changes in the Shop Channel. (http://gonincompoop/?p=60427)
That actually doesn't rule out Brandogg's guess, then, unless you have information on the intimate details of how games like FFCC interact with the Shop for purchasing their DLC. ;)
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Shecky on October 23, 2008, 09:22:40 PM
Apparently there's some kind of background change included as well and I'm waiting to see what the ramifications are in terms of homebrew so I'm holding off for now.
some interesting ones actually... the fakesign bug has been fixed in all IOS (thus, cIOS, DVDX, HBC and other channels, etc can't be installed anymore... things installed before the update seem to work fine though)

What the heck are all those acronyms ??
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: EasyCure on October 23, 2008, 09:24:38 PM
Apparently there's some kind of background change included as well and I'm waiting to see what the ramifications are in terms of homebrew so I'm holding off for now.
some interesting ones actually... the fakesign bug has been fixed in all IOS (thus, cIOS, DVDX, HBC and other channels, etc can't be installed anymore... things installed before the update seem to work fine though)

What the heck are all those acronyms ??

i'm not certain, but i think HBC = Hot Buttered Camels
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: stevey on October 23, 2008, 09:29:47 PM
Apparently there's some kind of background change included as well and I'm waiting to see what the ramifications are in terms of homebrew so I'm holding off for now.
some interesting ones actually... the fakesign bug has been fixed in all IOS (thus, cIOS, DVDX, HBC and other channels, etc can't be installed anymore... things installed before the update seem to work fine though)

What the heck are all those acronyms ??

i'm not certain, but i think HBC = Hot Buttered Camels

IOS=Operating system(s) the wii uses (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/IOS)
DVDX=DVD channel stub that alow the wii to play video DVDs (http://hackmii.com/2008/08/libdi-and-the-dvdx-installer/)
HBC=Homebrew Channel (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/Homebrew_Channel)
cIOS=Custom(read hacked) IOS (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/CIOS_Patchmii_Installer)

Also this update block the AnyRegion Changer=Changes the wii to any region by modify the setting and/or downloading foreign system menu and/or changes the wii shop region (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/AnyRegion_Changer)(although only the new system menu downloader/uninstaller is actually being block) and all raw nand dumpers....
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Shecky on October 23, 2008, 09:46:22 PM
Heh, well the first thing that comes to mind when I see IOS is Cisco.  So people have gotten custom channels on the Wii... interesting.  I wonder if they got any good homemade ones (to play/stream music that isn't flash for example)... or if they're all pirate oriented.  DVD one sounds cool, wonder if it will do progressive output.  Time to do a little digging I guess.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: EasyCure on October 23, 2008, 09:47:46 PM
Apparently there's some kind of background change included as well and I'm waiting to see what the ramifications are in terms of homebrew so I'm holding off for now.
some interesting ones actually... the fakesign bug has been fixed in all IOS (thus, cIOS, DVDX, HBC and other channels, etc can't be installed anymore... things installed before the update seem to work fine though)

What the heck are all those acronyms ??

i'm not certain, but i think HBC = Hot Buttered Camels

IOS=Operating system(s) the wii uses (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/IOS)
DVDX=DVD channel stub that alow the wii to play video DVDs (http://hackmii.com/2008/08/libdi-and-the-dvdx-installer/)
HBC=Homebrew Channel (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/Homebrew_Channel)
cIOS=Custom(read hacked) IOS (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/CIOS_Patchmii_Installer)

Also this update block the AnyRegion Changer=Changes the wii to any region by modify the setting and/or downloading foreign system menu and/or changes the wii shop region (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/AnyRegion_Changer)(although only the new system menu downloader/uninstaller is actually being block) and all raw nand dumpers....

pft a Hot buttered Camels channel is better than any Homebrew channel
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: stevey on October 23, 2008, 10:04:54 PM
Heh, well the first thing that comes to mind when I see IOS is Cisco.  So people have gotten custom channels on the Wii... interesting.  I wonder if they got any good homemade ones (to play/stream music that isn't flash for example)... or if they're all pirate oriented.  DVD one sounds cool, wonder if it will do progressive output.  Time to do a little digging I guess.

Well all channels except the HBC and DVDX are illegal and "pirated". They use banner code rip from a Nintendo made and copyrighted channel, the HBC has a handwritten banner (that hasn't been release because a custom banner that is bad can very easily and does brick a sh*tload of Wiis) and DVDX is a invisible channel that has no banner...

You better off running apps off a SD card using the HBC (which takes 0.2~5 sec to load).

Lst of all homebrew apps (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/List_of_homebrew_applications)
Lst of all media playing apps (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/List_of_homebrew_applications_(media))
Wii media (Will be release by the end of the year) (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/Wii_Miidia)
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Spinnzilla on October 23, 2008, 11:47:41 PM
Well I was over at the Guitar Hero forums, ya know browsing it.  And some fellow who claims he got the game early said the wii update actually did activate the DLC for GHWT.  He didn't post any vids or pic, but I have to say I believed him.  He posted the sizes of the songs too and none of the songs exceeded 187 blocks.  He said at first he couldn't access the DLC, but then he performed the system update and it allowed him to get to the store.  So maybe Brandogg is right, that's saying the poster is telling the truth.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 24, 2008, 12:04:28 AM
Changes to the Wii Shop Channel = allow it to be accessed in-game.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: KDR_11k on October 24, 2008, 11:41:03 AM
In Europe you can't access the shop channel without updating. Guess I'll wait until it's reliably cracked before updating.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Pale on October 24, 2008, 01:00:16 PM
Changes to the Wii Shop Channel = allow it to be accessed in-game.
It's been accessible from in game for some time.  FF:CC:MLAAK does it.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Spinnzilla on October 24, 2008, 01:05:40 PM
and Megaman 9.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 24, 2008, 02:02:02 PM
Yeah, but FF:MLAAK is a WiiWare game, which is played off of the Wii's internal flash, so there's a small difference.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 24, 2008, 04:29:14 PM
Doesn't Samba de Amigo access it in-game?
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 24, 2008, 04:32:05 PM
It does Insanolord.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: stevey on October 24, 2008, 05:12:51 PM
A simple work around to this update has been released. Basically it downloads all the new stuff (the shop and IOS51) and leaves all other IOSs unpatched/unupgraded to still enable homebrew
 
link (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/Wii_Shop_and_IOS51_installer)
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: KDR_11k on October 24, 2008, 05:16:05 PM
Doesn't that just contact a server to fetch a list or can you really read the manual without exiting the game?
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 24, 2008, 06:43:48 PM
Yeah, I'm about to install the modified updater. Silly Nintendo. The thing is, Nintendo could have came up with this a long time ago, but only recently did someone release (and then someone else) a program for loading Wii games via homebrew, thus fucking it up for the rest of us forever. Thanks a lot, assholes.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 18, 2008, 01:14:13 AM
3.4 came out today, from what I heard it removes all custom channels also there is a new clause in the terms of service.

- Enhanced parental controls
- USB Keyboard support for Mii channel added
- System functions improvement


The new clause: We may without notifying you, download updates, patches, upgrades and similar software to your Wii Console and may disable unauthorized or illegal software placed on your Wii Console to ensure that your Wii Console is operating properly and efficiently, comply with applicable laws, assist law enforcement, protect us and our customers, or prevent the use and distribution of software obtained through improper channels.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: blackfootsteps on November 18, 2008, 04:10:13 AM
Eh that's no good. I haven't updated my Wii since Brawl came so my Freeloader won't be rendered a frisbee (and US Brawl to boot). I guess I'll just have to turn off Wifi or buy PAL Brawl.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Plugabugz on November 18, 2008, 06:42:20 AM
But in this update is there anything useful?
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Mario on November 18, 2008, 06:49:03 AM
Eh that's no good. I haven't updated my Wii since Brawl came so my Freeloader won't be rendered a frisbee (and US Brawl to boot). I guess I'll just have to turn off Wifi or buy PAL Brawl.
I had to update to get access to the shop channel, and i've lost Brawl. Haven't missed it too much so far but i'll probably have to re-buy the PAL version some day.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 18, 2008, 07:27:11 AM
But in this update is there anything useful?

Apparently this update improves SD card read/write speed, or so some are saying. I haven't updated yet but WiiBrew is reporting that the update doesn't affect the Homebrew Channel if you've already installed it.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: KDR_11k on November 18, 2008, 08:07:37 AM
I guess I'll install the HBC first before updating then. I'm still annoyed that it needs Zelda TP since that's the one Wii game I will never buy. Maybe the rental place has it in stock this time...
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 18, 2008, 03:15:15 PM
I'm waiting until a patched version is out, that only updates, and doesn't delete anything. That's pretty shady for Nintendo to update your console without your permission, if they changed the TOS after updating, they could be in some legal trouble. Thank God my power went out the other day, in effect turning off WiiConnect24.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 25, 2009, 04:21:58 PM
As I'm sure many of you are aware.There was a major addition to the firmware.
Credit goes to BlackNMild

- Support for up to 32GB SDHC cards confirmed.

- Adds an SD Card menu accessible from the Wii Menu. STORAGE SOLUTION!

- Games transfered to the SD Card can basically be played from the SD Card. They are transfered to the Wii Memory before play, and deleted afterwards. An N64 game takes about ten seconds to load! If you don't have enough room on the Wii Memory, there's an automatic feature that'll transfer games to the SD card for you.

This means there's next to no reason to have VC games on the Wii Memory.

- You can download games directly from Wii Shop to the SD card.

- Save data must be accessed from the main Wii memory.

- The updates adds a "Virtual Console Arcade" menu in Wii Shop, contains a few Arcade games.

- For the homebrewers: According toWiibrew, system 4.0 somehow breaks some homebrew. Wait for a workaround before updating if you're nervous for breaking something.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: stevey on March 25, 2009, 04:26:05 PM
Quote
- For the homebrewers: According to Wiibrew, system 4.0 somehow breaks some homebrew. Wait for a workaround before updating if you're nervous for breaking something.

It breaks the installation of Homebrew only. If you already have HB and DVDX channels you're fine and they will work perfectly!

http://hackmii.com/2009/03/system-menu-40-rundown/
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 25, 2009, 04:40:44 PM
So... install Homebrew Channel before you do your system update?

wait... you can play DVD movies through the Wii on a DVDX Channel?
please explain how?
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: stevey on March 25, 2009, 07:05:56 PM
You still play DVD movies in the Homebrew Channel by using a homebrew media player. (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/List_of_homebrew_applications#Media_players) The DVDX channel is a invisible stub channel that has a "This is an official Nintendo DVD Player channel" flag set that cause the Wii to OK the reading data of DVD disks that homebrew applications call.

http://hackmii.com/2008/08/libdi-and-the-dvdx-installer/
http://hackmii.com/2009/02/dvdx34/
https://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=25112.75
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Mop it up on March 25, 2009, 08:32:42 PM
Was there a message sent out to Wii systems informing that this update is available? The reason I ask this is because my system isn't bluminated right now and lately I've been wondering if its message-receiving ability is working properly...
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 25, 2009, 08:43:06 PM
With past updates I would not get a message from Nintendo until like 9PM ET.

You don't have to wait though, you can update your system right now.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: EasyCure on March 26, 2009, 09:26:22 AM
The update email from Nintendo mentioned something about a new version of the wii speak channel, but does it update with the system update?? I was kinda tired when i got the message, and read thru it quickly so i was under the impression it meant i had to update them seperately, but couldn't find anywhere in the Shop Channel how to do that.

help?
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Pale on March 26, 2009, 09:28:38 AM
I went into Wii Shop and dled the Wii Speak upgrade, so no, I don't think it happens automatically. I dont' know what the upgrade does though.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: EasyCure on March 26, 2009, 09:31:31 AM
I went into Wii Shop and dled the Wii Speak upgrade, so no, I don't think it happens automatically. I dont' know what the upgrade does though.

And you went to the Channels section right? I remember when updating other channels, you'd go into the channels section of the Shop Channel and it'd let you know an update was available, and you'd redownload/update from there. Wii Speak Channel doesnt seem to have a spot on my "downloaded/downloadable" list though...
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Pale on March 26, 2009, 09:33:33 AM
Oh I did it from my "stuff you've downloaded" list, as I noticed it when I was checking to make sure I had all my games on my SD card. It's strange that you don't notice it on yours. Weird.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: EasyCure on March 26, 2009, 10:20:15 AM
Oh I did it from my "stuff you've downloaded" list, as I noticed it when I was checking to make sure I had all my games on my SD card. It's strange that you don't notice it on yours. Weird.

I'll have to try again later. Did you get Animal Crossing: City Folk and used the download ticket for the Wii Speak channel? I don't know if they ever ended up charging users to download that, but if thats the case then maybe thats the problem..?

I'll update this later if i can figure it out.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Pale on March 26, 2009, 10:58:45 AM
Mine was from a separate Wii Speak package, not from a bundle... though I'm not sure how the bundle came.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on March 26, 2009, 11:53:27 AM
The bundle just had the wii speak in it's own section of the box in a plastic baggie and all the manuals including the download ticket was next to the manual. I think if people lose the download ticket have to call NOA to get a new one issued to them for free.
Title: New Wii System Update 4.1
Post by: broodwars on July 16, 2009, 12:51:13 AM
Looks like the Blue Bar's flashing again, this time with a notice from Nintendo of a Wii System Menu 4.1 update that makes "behind-the-scenes changes" to the Wii System.  There's no other mention of what the thing does, but it only took me about a minute to download.  Checking around various message boards and whatnot about it, it seems to be another anti-piracy/homebrew/freeloader update so if you use those software you might find it no longer usable  That is all.  You may resume the pummeling.
Title: Re: New Wii System Update 4.1
Post by: bustin98 on July 16, 2009, 01:00:49 AM
I hear it has to do with a bug in Wii Sport Resort. Japan just got the update after Resort was reported to have a bug.
Title: Re: New Wii System Update 4.1
Post by: broodwars on July 16, 2009, 01:03:34 AM
I hear it has to do with a bug in Wii Sport Resort. Japan just got the update after Resort was reported to have a bug.

Yeah, I've heard some rumors to that effect as well but nothing concrete yet.  If it was to fix such a bug, you'd think Nintendo would have mentioned that in the Wii Mail they sent out on the update.  But then again, Wii Sports Resort isn't out yet so maybe they didn't see the point.
Title: Re: New Wii System Update 4.1
Post by: UncleBob on July 16, 2009, 01:16:46 AM
Guh... I was all like "Oh, I need to update!"....


...damnit.
Title: Re: New Wii System Update 4.1
Post by: broodwars on July 16, 2009, 01:19:39 AM
Guh... I was all like "Oh, I need to update!"....


...damnit.

I wouldn't freak out just yet.  I still haven't seen confirmation yet on exactly what this update does, save that it could either be the usual anti-hacking update or an update to preemptively eliminate a bug in Wii Sports Resort.  You could luck out and it's just the latter, though I wouldn't be shocked if it were the former or both.  Just thought I'd throw a warning out there to people using said software in case this update shuts them down, since I'm often in the habit of not reading those Nintendo mail messages either.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 16, 2009, 01:41:26 AM
4.1 is live. I will post anything  signifigant later.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: broodwars on July 16, 2009, 01:49:39 AM
Frack.  This is the thread I was trying to find earlier before I posted my topic about System Update 4.1, but the Search function was wierding-out.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 16, 2009, 01:52:46 AM
Use Google and put this in.

site:nintendoworldreport.com/forums

Then add whatever you are looking after forums.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: kraken613 on July 16, 2009, 02:06:44 AM
Use Google and put this in.

site:nintendoworldreport.com/forums

Then add whatever you are looking after forums.

Thanks for that tip!

I will hold off because it's nothing that I really need right now... And I will wait until the HBC is confirmed to be working with 4.1.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: AV on July 16, 2009, 10:01:01 AM
it was cool. I was playing online worldwide conduit last night and suddenly my Wii turned all blue. it was 12am so it was bright.

I updated it without hesitation. I don't hack stuff and am legit so its all good.

It said that the update was to fix overall performance and not to really do anything outside of deleting cracked saved files stuff.

Japan got a new version of Nintendo channel so we might be getting that soon. Maybe this update helps to make Wii motion plus work better ?? who knows.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: stevey on July 16, 2009, 10:38:54 AM
It came out 12 days ago in Japan and all it does is fix a bug in Wii Sports Resort with the motionplus tutorial.

http://wiibrew.org/wiki/System_Menu_4.1
Title: Re: New Wii System Update 4.1
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 16, 2009, 01:35:12 PM
KISS YOUR WII GOODBYE, HACKORS
Title: Re: New Wii System Update 4.1
Post by: AV on July 16, 2009, 05:02:17 PM
KISS YOUR WII GOODBYE, HACKORS

My guess is that the punch out download will be all but impossible for hackers because it will require a major firmware update. So they will be out of luck I thinks.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 16, 2009, 05:45:04 PM
They'll probably force-hack the punch-out downroad into working somehow.

Hackors aren't real customers anyway.  They don't buy the games and are first to whine about not reaching platinum status while claiming to be true fans.

They also install Condom Units onto harddrives and ruin online gaming with cheats.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Stratos on July 16, 2009, 06:49:21 PM
I hate game hackers, and blatant disconnecters even more. People should lose with dignity. And I want my hard earned points/exp and ranking.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Mop it up on July 16, 2009, 07:20:09 PM
I don't have the 4.0 update so this one is pointless for me.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Stratos on July 16, 2009, 07:48:10 PM
I don't have the 4.0 update so this one is pointless for me.

Not if you want Wii Sports Resort to play properly for you. I'm going to guess it will be a forced update on the US version of the game like they did on Brawl.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Mop it up on July 16, 2009, 07:56:50 PM
I'm sure I'll have bought another game which has the update before then.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 16, 2009, 08:11:42 PM
Like what?  Outside of WSR it's DROUGHT TIME.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: kraken613 on July 16, 2009, 08:22:51 PM
They'll probably force-hack the punch-out downroad into working somehow.

Hackors aren't real customers anyway.  They don't buy the games and are first to whine about not reaching platinum status while claiming to be true fans.

They also install Condom Units onto harddrives and ruin online gaming with cheats.

I have to HBC and all my games installed to a HDD and I don't cheat and I buy all my games....

I will be really pissed when they block it for good, but that will never happen. It just takes them a few days to work around what Nintnedo does.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Mop it up on July 16, 2009, 08:33:42 PM
Like what?  Outside of WSR it's DROUGHT TIME.
Like New Super Mario Brothers Wii.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: DAaaMan64 on July 16, 2009, 08:34:59 PM
They'll probably force-hack the punch-out downroad into working somehow.

Hackors aren't real customers anyway.  They don't buy the games and are first to whine about not reaching platinum status while claiming to be true fans.

They also install Condom Units onto harddrives and ruin online gaming with cheats.

I have to HBC and all my games installed to a HDD and I don't cheat and I buy all my games....

I will be really pissed when they block it for good, but that will never happen. It just takes them a few days to work around what Nintnedo does.

That would bother me. I'd like to think this HDD solution will also extend the life of my Wii having removed the moving parts from the equation.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Caliban on July 16, 2009, 08:43:39 PM
Like what?  Outside of WSR it's DROUGHT TIME.

LITTLE KING'S STORY!!!
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Pale on July 16, 2009, 08:55:25 PM
My Wii hasn't told me about this update yet.  I'm not going to rush it anyway if there isn't anything new feature wise.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BwrJim! on July 16, 2009, 11:43:36 PM
I looked into the update for everyone here.  Its a WSR (sports resort) fix for the introductory movie and a small system update.  Also if you were a person who created your own start menu, that since this is updating the menu, it changes that and thus its gone.  After reading peoples opinions in certain places, its safe to update less the system menu update. 
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Mop it up on July 19, 2009, 03:40:10 PM
Well it looks like I had to get this update sooner than I expected. The shop channel wouldn't let me visit it unless I got the update.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 19, 2009, 04:35:15 PM
That would bother me. I'd like to think this HDD solution will also extend the life of my Wii having removed the moving parts from the equation.

That is all the argument I need to make me look into the HDD loader for my Wii.
is there an easy(fool proof) step by step instructions somewhere?
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: kraken613 on July 19, 2009, 04:47:43 PM
The story linked to this story works.

http://lifehacker.com/5280957/load-your-wii-games-from-a-hard-disk-part-ii
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BwrJim! on July 19, 2009, 06:11:02 PM
any ideas what the next wiiware killer app is besides  punch out trainer>?
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Stratos on July 19, 2009, 06:17:16 PM
Cave Story probably is the next one.

Night Game also has a lot of potential.

There is also my personal favorite upcoming game. (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=27868.msg503195#msg503195)
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: stevey on September 29, 2009, 12:41:14 AM
DO NOT UPDATE AT ALL COST IF YOU HAVE HOMEBREW!!

4.2 is out!

It will delete HBC, BootMii, and most common cIOS { 249 (very commonly used in a lot of apps), 222/223 (Pirating USB2.0 loaders; who cares), 250 (??­?/backup)}
(Note cIOS 202 (good USB2.0/DVD used for homebrew/mplayer) are safe though)

Still waiting on word for DVDx
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: ShyGuy on September 29, 2009, 01:02:09 AM
I may be forced to install GeckoOS to get these Nintendo games that we keep getting screwed out of here in America. System Updates scare me.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: broodwars on September 29, 2009, 01:05:03 AM
DO NOT UPDATE AT ALL COST IF YOU HAVE HOMEBREW!!

4.2 is out!

It will delete HBC, BootMii, and most common cIOS { 249 (very commonly used in a lot of apps), 222/223 (Pirating USB2.0 loaders; who cares), 250 (??­?/backup)}
(Note cIOS 202 (good USB2.0/DVD used for homebrew/mplayer) are safe though)

Still waiting on word for DVDx

...does it actually do anything useful for non-hackers?
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: stevey on September 29, 2009, 01:16:39 AM
The Wii Shop Channel and menu have been updated. No clue on if there a reason other than to force people to update.....

Better to wait for a just install the new Wii Shop Channel and useful IOS updater...
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: DAaaMan64 on September 29, 2009, 01:53:32 AM
wow thats fucked.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: NeoThunder on September 29, 2009, 02:21:31 AM
I'm not sure if it's deleted off of my system memory, but it's still on my SD card and shows up in the SD card menu...It just tells me that the channel can't be launched on this wii system
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: KDR_11k on September 29, 2009, 05:35:26 AM
I guess that's no more Wii Shop downloads until the HBC gets updated to fix that. I like my import games.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on September 29, 2009, 07:46:28 AM
This probably pissed Nintendo off big time, thanks G4. (http://g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/exclusives/68443/Hack-This-Nintendo-Wii-Mods.html)
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 29, 2009, 02:33:45 PM
Yeah, homebrew getting mainstream attention is about the worst thing possible. I won't be updating until there's a work around. For the people that have already updated, I think you're screwed, though I haven't seen any mention of the Indiana Pwns hack being blocked.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 29, 2009, 02:56:09 PM
HOW DO YOU LIKE THEM BANANAS, PIRATES?
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 29, 2009, 06:02:13 PM
This update has almost nothing to do with piracy or anti-piracy measures. I suppose it does, but only because it deletes any and all homebrew, apparently.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 29, 2009, 06:09:11 PM
I updated last night because I wanted to use the Shop Channel and I figured it would be like all the other updates, not really affecting me since I already had it installed. Oh well, homebrew was nice while it lasted. I had already made the decision, though, that if I had to choose between homebrew and the Shop I'd go with the Shop, so I'm not too upset.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: kraken613 on September 29, 2009, 06:15:54 PM
Yeah, homebrew getting mainstream attention is about the worst thing possible. I won't be updating until there's a work around. For the people that have already updated, I think you're screwed, though I haven't seen any mention of the Indiana Pwns hack being blocked.

Same, I am not updating either, Nintendo will just lose my Shop business until there is a work around.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 29, 2009, 11:10:13 PM
You can install the Wii Shop Updater with a program called WSU, I believe. The system menu update isn't required, for the time being, so you can still buy stuff from the service.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: stevey on September 30, 2009, 12:23:18 AM
Quote
North America

29/09/2009

Wii Menu version 4.2 is now available for your Wii console. To update your Wii Menu to the latest version, please select the Update button at the bottom of the screen or select the System Update option in the Wii System Settings.

This update provides behind-the-scenes fixes that will not affect features but will improve the overall system performance.

Because unauthorized modifications to save data or program files may impair game play or the Wii console, updating to Wii Menu version 4.2 will also check for and automatically remove such save data or program files.

**Please note: If you've updated your Wii Menu after 9/29/09, you may not need to update again.

Thank you for updating your Wii console!

Nintendo

Blatant lies. It just add a "Check if HAXX or DVDX channel exist" on every wii boot up to go along with "check for hacked zelda save file" in slowing boot up and it waste the internal memory with cheap stub of IOS (which you could always just install as a different number).

Worst yet, it's the first time Nintendo has updated Boot2. So if you have an old Wii, even without bootmii or homebrew, there is a chance that you might get bricked because updating is not well tested by Nintendo (and hence they avoided it).

http://hackmii.com/2009/09/wii-menu-4-2-a-lack-of-imagination
http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/System_Menu_4.2



To update the shop just use
http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/Wii_Shop_and_IOS61_installer
or
http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/WiiSCU

*without patching the IOS*
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 30, 2009, 10:32:33 AM
The best thing is I almost got duped into installing this update. I went to look at the Wii Shop because they were pimping "You, Me, and the Cubes", and it said I needed to update the Wii Shop Channel. It then went to full-on system update mode, so I turned off the system.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 30, 2009, 12:16:45 PM
Oh yeah, if this update is offensive to onrine game hackers, I'm all for it.

CRY ME A RIVER, ONLINE CHEATERS
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: kraken613 on September 30, 2009, 01:11:53 PM
There are a lot more reasons for homebrew than piracy or cheating. You can't seem to comprehend that though....
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: vudu on September 30, 2009, 01:37:45 PM
The best thing is I almost got duped into installing this update. I went to look at the Wii Shop because they were pimping "You, Me, and the Cubes", and it said I needed to update the Wii Shop Channel. It then went to full-on system update mode, so I turned off the system.

You, Me and the Cubes is pretty interesting.  Just sayin'.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 30, 2009, 03:48:55 PM
There are a lot more reasons for homebrew than piracy or cheating. You can't seem to comprehend that though....

Stuff I already do on my laptop?
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: kraken613 on September 30, 2009, 04:57:45 PM
Having all your games you buy backed up on a HDD and play them without using disks?

Import games?
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: vudu on September 30, 2009, 05:17:44 PM
What import games do you own?
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 30, 2009, 05:25:45 PM
Well, the update has been defeated - http://hackmii.com/2009/09/silly_games/ (http://hackmii.com/2009/09/silly_games/). If you wish to update, use the new HBC/DVDx installer first, unless you don't care about this stuff.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: stevey on September 30, 2009, 07:56:45 PM
Oh yeah, if this update is offensive to onrine game hackers, I'm all for it.

CRY ME A RIVER, ONLINE CHEATERS

The update does absolutely nothing in that regards

Worst yet, it's the first time Nintendo has updated Boot2. So if you have an old Wii, even without bootmii or homebrew, there is a chance that you might get bricked because updating is not well tested by Nintendo and the update function frankly sucks (and hence they avoided it).

and so it begins http://techforums.nintendo.com/nins/board/message?board.id=wii_tech&thread.id=29914
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 30, 2009, 08:37:06 PM
If it bricks the systems of WFC hackers (just for having a haxxed Wii), then it does plenty.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: kraken613 on September 30, 2009, 08:43:44 PM
Anyone who hacks online games  is smart enough not to update....
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 30, 2009, 09:00:18 PM
Having all your games you buy backed up on a HDD and play them without using disks?

Import games?

My discs are fine, and I don't want my Wii taking up more space plus the added cost of an external drive.

Marked-up import games aren't that attractive to me.  It's not like Shenmue II DC that never made it to the USA.

Not sure what stevey uses it for, maybe it's just more reliable than his laptops.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 30, 2009, 09:28:57 PM
Let's not forget all the cool independent apps and whatnot. It's worth hacking the Wii for the head tracking demo alone. This update really does nothing (and doesn't attempt to either) to stop online cheaters. It will potentially brick people's consoles and drive up Wii sales, however.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: KDR_11k on October 01, 2009, 10:29:56 AM
What import games do you own?

Blast Works and Gundam MS Sensen 0079, thank you.

Marked-up import games aren't that attractive to me.  It's not like Shenmue II DC that never made it to the USA.

Americans, eh? Import games are cheaper than local games over here and I think we all know about the horrible treatment PAL is getting.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 01, 2009, 11:44:14 AM
We are worlds apart.

And this recurring update-borking issue is also the reason I wait several weeks to do any update, despite no-haxor no-hombruu, to wait for the fallout to settle and see what the responses are.

Windows Updates, I run once every couple months (anti virus, even less).  None of this surprise MS Office borking and no background process downloading for me.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: vudu on October 01, 2009, 02:21:49 PM
What import games do you own?

Blast Works and Gundam MS Sensen 0079, thank you.

I wasn't talking to you, thank you.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: AV on October 03, 2009, 12:45:23 AM
this is the first time i'm actually scared to update. I'm at the dorm so i am not connected online. However I am going back next weekend, so I could update. I never ever done any hacking or anything with my Wii.

I've been a good boy and I would hate for my Wii to break for something like this.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: EasyCure on October 04, 2009, 09:23:39 AM
Hey does anyone know if this update is the same one that comes on the Guitar Hero 5 disc? I finally had some time to play it yesterday with my girlfriend but the second I saw I needed to update, I turned the system off. I didn't even know 3rd party games could include updates with them.. and because the new update from nintendo is in regards to the shop channel, I'm only assuming that the GH5 update is the same one (some sorta dlc update?). Any verification would be appreciated though, in the meantime I'll be backing up all my saves.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: AV on October 04, 2009, 11:40:00 AM
Hey does anyone know if this update is the same one that comes on the Guitar Hero 5 disc? I finally had some time to play it yesterday with my girlfriend but the second I saw I needed to update, I turned the system off. I didn't even know 3rd party games could include updates with them.. and because the new update from nintendo is in regards to the shop channel, I'm only assuming that the GH5 update is the same one (some sorta dlc update?). Any verification would be appreciated though, in the meantime I'll be backing up all my saves.

how does things work ?

is the firmware update pre-installed into the disk and not allow you to play the game unless you have it. so if your firmware is already up to date, it does not activate.

or does it check for the firmware and force your wii to connect online and update ? the only thing on the disk is to code to force it to happen.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 04, 2009, 11:59:07 AM
Hey does anyone know if this update is the same one that comes on the Guitar Hero 5 disc? I finally had some time to play it yesterday with my girlfriend but the second I saw I needed to update, I turned the system off. I didn't even know 3rd party games could include updates with them.. and because the new update from nintendo is in regards to the shop channel, I'm only assuming that the GH5 update is the same one (some sorta dlc update?). Any verification would be appreciated though, in the meantime I'll be backing up all my saves.

how does things work ?

is the firmware update pre-installed into the disk and not allow you to play the game unless you have it. so if your firmware is already up to date, it does not activate.

or does it check for the firmware and force your wii to connect online and update ? the only thing on the disk is to code to force it to happen.

The update is on the disc. If it just forced you to go online to update that would screw over anyone who doesn't have their Wii connected to the internet.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: EasyCure on October 04, 2009, 12:11:39 PM
Hey does anyone know if this update is the same one that comes on the Guitar Hero 5 disc? I finally had some time to play it yesterday with my girlfriend but the second I saw I needed to update, I turned the system off. I didn't even know 3rd party games could include updates with them.. and because the new update from nintendo is in regards to the shop channel, I'm only assuming that the GH5 update is the same one (some sorta dlc update?). Any verification would be appreciated though, in the meantime I'll be backing up all my saves.

how does things work ?

is the firmware update pre-installed into the disk and not allow you to play the game unless you have it. so if your firmware is already up to date, it does not activate.

or does it check for the firmware and force your wii to connect online and update ? the only thing on the disk is to code to force it to happen.

The update is on the disc. If it just forced you to go online to update that would screw over anyone who doesn't have their Wii connected to the internet.

Which is currently my situation; my wii is offline and that was the case i'd be PISSED. Okay, maybe thats a little too harsh, I'd definately be annoyed cuz its a hassle to get my wii online with my current set-up.

I finally got off my ass and did some research, looks like all it does is allow the wii to accept those high capacity SD cards so I can move my GH:WT songs over to GH5. I'm currently running Ver. 4.1U while the GH5 update is supposedly just v4.0u (according to the post i've read elsewhere), so nothing to fear right? Maybe i'll just back up my save files anyway...
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Mop it up on October 04, 2009, 01:19:28 PM
If you're not a good-for-nothing hacker then what do you have to worry about?
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 04, 2009, 01:28:54 PM
his system getting bricked?
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Mop it up on October 04, 2009, 01:37:04 PM
How many reported cases of that are there? It seems like that's just something that the Internet is blowing way out of proportion.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 04, 2009, 01:58:22 PM
but that is probably what he is worried about.
that is what you asked right?
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Mop it up on October 04, 2009, 01:59:24 PM
Right, and I'm saying that isn't something he should be worried about.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: EasyCure on October 04, 2009, 02:00:34 PM
but that is probably what he is worried about.
that is what you asked right?

This. It might be something thats blown out of proportion but theres a small chance of it happening is still something to worry about when I'd never be able to re-play some of these games and achieve that former glory.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Mop it up on October 04, 2009, 02:03:41 PM
Yeah, that would be a bummer. And it does seem like you have some bad luck when it comes to the Wii, so I hope it isn't a problem for you.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 04, 2009, 02:04:26 PM
Right, and I'm saying that isn't something he should be worried about.

but should he not back up his saves just in case?
At the slight possibility that his system may be bricked by the update, it would be the smart and responsible thing to do. After doing so, then he won't have much else to worry about, unless the system actually does brick.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Mop it up on October 04, 2009, 02:12:46 PM
I'm actually kind of surprised everyone doesn't already have all of their data backed up. Or at least the files which can be copied. I really hate how the save data of games with an online mode can't be copied.

If someone is worried about it then they should just get the update now (if their data is backed up) instead of having it hang over their head until they're forced to do it. It's better to deal with now if it's a problem rather than later.

EDIT: Except I'm not sure if EasyCure can download the update if his Internet still isn't working properly. Forget I said anything...
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: stevey on October 04, 2009, 02:18:23 PM
I really hate how the save data of games with an online mode can't be copied.

That what homebrew is for. (I have a complete image of my wii flash memory backed up including OS/save/setting/Friend codes/channel/shop account/history/mail/miis)
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Mop it up on October 04, 2009, 02:21:46 PM
Is that something that's easy to do? I might be tempted to try it just to get a backup of my saves.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: that Baby guy on October 04, 2009, 02:51:26 PM
It can be.  You have to find a solid guide that tells you (or gives you) what you need, and explains exactly how to use it.  You'd think that would be simple, but often, due to the constantly "upgrading" nature of homebrew, several guides are out of date, or even created while the software mentioned is in transition.

I think Kotaku and Lifehacker had some guides up that might help.  Gonintendo would certainly have some links to several, as well.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 04, 2009, 03:15:13 PM
No, you shouldn't just go ahead and update if you're concerned. Wait for Nintendo to release a *new* update that fixes the issues created by the current one. It's better to deal with it later, rather than take the risk (even if it's a very small risk) now.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Mop it up on October 04, 2009, 03:27:10 PM
Are they actually going to release an update which fixes the problems caused by 4.2? Because it doesn't seem like they will.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 04, 2009, 04:49:48 PM
It would be the right thing to do, rather than wait for the system to break.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: stevey on October 04, 2009, 08:11:53 PM
I don't think that is possible with Nintendo's update system. Right now it just updates anything and everything that has a new version and/or is missing from the Wii. So if Nintendo wants to improve the update mechanism they will have to remove the boot2 update, update the system menu/IOS to have a better boot2 updater function(4.2->4.3), then they have to re-upload updated boot2 on their servers(4.3->4.4) when everyone has the better version of the updater which will never happen because there is no guarantee than people wont just jump from a firmware below 4.2 to the newest which make the rest pointless. Not to mention that with an old version of boot1, updating boot2 to version 4 does absolutely nothing in piracy or homebrew prevention.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: EasyCure on October 05, 2009, 10:59:07 AM
Updated it with the update that came on the GH5 disc; no problems. It's actually not the same update thats been bricking systems lately. Since my wii is offline at the moment, I won't be updating to that any time soon.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: vudu on October 05, 2009, 02:15:16 PM
I really hate how the save data of games with an online mode can't be copied.

That what homebrew is for. (I have a complete image of my wii flash memory backed up including OS/save/setting/Friend codes/channel/shop account/history/mail/miis)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you load those saves onto another Wii system and take it online won't it give you all sorts of problems?

Updated it with the update that came on the GH5 disc; no problems. It's actually not the same update thats been bricking systems lately. Since my wii is offline at the moment, I won't be updating to that any time soon.

You will if you have any desire to play NSMB Wii or any of the other games coming out this holiday season.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 05, 2009, 04:36:29 PM
Not necessarily true. If you have the means to get your Wii DVDs dumped to a USB hard drive, then you can remove the updates from the games too. Some games, though not many, actually require certain updates (Rock Band 2 and GHWT and up, IIRC).
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: vudu on October 05, 2009, 04:42:53 PM
Seems like a lot of hassle just for elite status of being a dick.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 05, 2009, 05:17:15 PM
Does being elite dick help people get friends to play co-op New Mare-eeoh Bros.?
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 05, 2009, 05:47:10 PM
I don't get what you're saying there, vudu. I hope none of this "elite" and "dick" talk is directed at me.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: that Baby guy on October 05, 2009, 06:48:28 PM
I don't think that is possible with Nintendo's update system. Right now it just updates anything and everything that has a new version and/or is missing from the Wii. So if Nintendo wants to improve the update mechanism they will have to remove the boot2 update, update the system menu/IOS to have a better boot2 updater function(4.2->4.3), then they have to re-upload updated boot2 on their servers(4.3->4.4) when everyone has the better version of the updater which will never happen because there is no guarantee than people wont just jump from a firmware below 4.2 to the newest which make the rest pointless. Not to mention that with an old version of boot1, updating boot2 to version 4 does absolutely nothing in piracy or homebrew prevention.

It's possible to simply just offer update 4.3 and remove all traces of 4.2 from their network.  Since the update isn't currently pressed on any disks, and it's available online only, it wouldn't cause a problem.  It doesn't need the altered boot sequence to update it's firmware beyond that, so they could just avoid it.  There's no problem with that, I wouldn't think.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 05, 2009, 07:01:50 PM
I don't get what you're saying there, vudu. I hope none of this "elite" and "dick" talk is directed at me.
not you.

your mom.

quote me son (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=29512.msg553499#msg553499)
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: EasyCure on October 05, 2009, 07:08:51 PM
I don't get what you're saying there, vudu. I hope none of this "elite" and "dick" talk is directed at me.
not you.

your mom.

quote me son (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=29512.msg553499#msg553499)

Yo momma's so old, she saw passion of christ live.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: stevey on October 05, 2009, 07:55:52 PM
I really hate how the save data of games with an online mode can't be copied.

That what homebrew is for. (I have a complete image of my wii flash memory backed up including OS/save/setting/Friend codes/channel/shop account/history/mail/miis)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you load those saves onto another Wii system and take it online won't it give you all sorts of problems?

Only if both Wiis try to connect online at the exact same time. If you just replace a wii and restore the old one's FC on to the new one then their wont be any problems.

Updated it with the update that came on the GH5 disc; no problems. It's actually not the same update thats been bricking systems lately. Since my wii is offline at the moment, I won't be updating to that any time soon.

You will if you have any desire to play NSMB Wii or any of the other games coming out this holiday season.

You can just install/upgrade the needed IOS (if any) and uses one of the many homebrew apps that can skip the update check. If you really don't want to upgrade.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: vudu on October 05, 2009, 07:58:11 PM
I don't get what you're saying there, vudu. I hope none of this "elite" and "dick" talk is directed at me.

Not you specifically.  I just find that most people who care about this stuff don't do so because they like homebrew.  Assuming they're not stealing games, they only really care about it for the sake of being able to tell people they can do it.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: that Baby guy on October 05, 2009, 08:25:35 PM
Wow, that's exactly the opposite.  I did it all so I could make Smash Bros. a little more enjoyable, taking out tripping and making the Pokemon Trainer's pokemon separate when we want them that way.  We turned Rumble Falls into the WiFi waiting room, too.  Definitely more enjoyable considering how we play.

From there, we decided to check out some other things, and we went with using codes to touch up or add in more fun with other things.  Now, since I don't have a great DVD player in my room, and I've been meaning to rip my DVD's anyways, so I have solid back-ups, I'm going to be making it so my Wii can play rips of my DVDs.  It's a nice opportunity for me to organize things, and make things convenient as well.  Yeah, I like to talk about it sometimes, because it's something I like, and I think other people might like, too.  I'm sure you've done the same with other things.  It's not a status symbol, it's a matter of trying to share good things with people you like.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 05, 2009, 08:32:51 PM
The funhouse shouldn't be brought into the "real" forums.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 05, 2009, 08:36:48 PM
The funhouse shouldn't be brought into the "real" forums.

The Funhouse is the only real forum.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: EasyCure on October 05, 2009, 09:08:00 PM
The funhouse shouldn't be brought into the "real" forums.

The Funhouse is the only real forum.

As an agent of Fun, I hereby proclaim this statement and one of the few pure truths of this forum.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 05, 2009, 10:52:52 PM
That's why I had real in quotes.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 05, 2009, 11:12:18 PM
That's why I had real in quotes.

Thats where you messed up, you should have put forums in "s
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BeautifulShy on June 21, 2010, 10:40:50 PM
4.3 is active. I downloaded it. Nothing seems different. Maybe they fixed the 4.2 problem.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Mop it up on June 21, 2010, 11:07:15 PM
Oh, oh oh, I'll have to watch out for these from now on. I can't get it until I delete a few things from my system...
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 21, 2010, 11:20:36 PM
I didn't used to care much about the possibility of losing the Homebrew Channel, but now that I have imported games that can only be played via it I'm going to have to wait and see.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: stevey on June 21, 2010, 11:20:52 PM
It's been awhile since Nintendo did something.

4.3 just deletes the HomeBrew channel, kills Bannerbomb, and blocks Riivolution (http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Riivolution); don't bother updating...
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: DAaaMan64 on June 21, 2010, 11:29:33 PM
I never do.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: stevey on June 22, 2010, 12:04:42 AM
Seems like there was USB2.0 & webcam support added too. But if you bought "Your Shape" you would have gotten it anyway without the update...
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: AV on June 23, 2010, 06:23:07 PM
I updated Nintendo channel and it does seem to flow better now. It used to hick up allot before because of my slower wifi connection, but now it runs like butter.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 23, 2010, 09:29:30 PM
Looks like I'm avoiding this update. Nintendo is doing more to actually turn people into pirates with all their homebrew-blocking updates. They should just do like Microsoft and ban people from playing online when they catch them.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Mop it up on June 23, 2010, 09:35:15 PM
They should just do like Microsoft and ban people from playing online when they catch them.
Nintendo already does this, but not as effectively.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: DAaaMan64 on June 23, 2010, 10:20:01 PM
I can't use the shop channel until I update -_-
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: MegaByte on June 23, 2010, 10:24:04 PM
I can't use the shop channel until I update -_-
http://wiibrew.org/wiki/System_Menu_4.3#What_to_do
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Morari on June 23, 2010, 11:17:05 PM
Looks like I'm avoiding this update. Nintendo is doing more to actually turn people into pirates with all their homebrew-blocking updates. They should just do like Microsoft and ban people from playing online when they catch them.

There are already plenty of workarounds to get you up and going again if you really need to update. Nintendo should stop fighting this endless, loosing battle against piracy and divert all that funding into making some games instead.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 24, 2010, 02:42:39 AM
So all this upgrade does is stop piracy? Well, since I don't pirate on the Wii anyway I have nothing to lose by upgrading, so I've done that...
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Morari on June 24, 2010, 05:37:57 PM
No. All it does is stop the Homebrew Channel from being installed byway of previously used methods. No pirate tactics were ever targeted, and even the Homebrew Channel can still be installed via different methods.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: UncleBob on June 25, 2010, 01:45:12 AM
To be fair, the "Homebrew" channel is a pirate tactic.  Now, I'm not saying there isn't legitimate uses for the HBC - but that's like saying guns aren't murder weapons because some people use them legitimately. ;)
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: MegaByte on June 25, 2010, 01:58:04 AM
That may be true of many systems, but if you follow the technical details, the HBC programmers went through a lot of trouble to impede pirates' progress.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 25, 2010, 01:22:42 PM
To be fair, the "Homebrew" channel is a pirate tactic.  Now, I'm not saying there isn't legitimate uses for the HBC - but that's like saying guns aren't murder weapons because some people use them legitimately. ;)
That's a horrible analogy. The homebrew channel was designed to play homebrew, period. Concurrent done by people that have absolutely nothing to do with HBC hacks allowed for piracy.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Pale on June 25, 2010, 02:20:02 PM
What we all forget is that playing import games, one of the key things HBC does as well, is also considered bad by NOA.  This isn't just about piracy.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: MegaByte on June 25, 2010, 02:23:44 PM
Thankfully Riivolution (the program used for unofficial translations and custom levels) was patched almost immediately.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: UncleBob on June 25, 2010, 03:12:27 PM
To be fair, the "Homebrew" channel is a pirate tactic.  Now, I'm not saying there isn't legitimate uses for the HBC - but that's like saying guns aren't murder weapons because some people use them legitimately. ;)
That's a horrible analogy. The homebrew channel was designed to play homebrew, period. Concurrent done by people that have absolutely nothing to do with HBC hacks allowed for piracy.

So... you're saying the HBC isn't a tactic used by pirates?
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: MegaByte on June 25, 2010, 03:26:09 PM
To be fair, the "Homebrew" channel is a pirate tactic.  Now, I'm not saying there isn't legitimate uses for the HBC - but that's like saying guns aren't murder weapons because some people use them legitimately. ;)
That's a horrible analogy. The homebrew channel was designed to play homebrew, period. Concurrent done by people that have absolutely nothing to do with HBC hacks allowed for piracy.

So... you're saying the HBC isn't a tactic used by pirates?
Not really.  I'm sure some use it, but it's not exactly geared for it like the dedicated solutions and it doesn't directly allow piracy.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Pale on June 25, 2010, 03:59:50 PM
It does allow emulators though relatively directly.... does it not?  And most of those emulated games are for sale for the device.... I think that probably counts. :)
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Plugabugz on June 25, 2010, 04:01:49 PM
What we all forget is that playing import games, one of the key things HBC does as well, is also considered bad by NOA.  This isn't just about piracy.

Because we're not allowed to reach outside the pram for toys that aren't ours yet.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Stratos on June 25, 2010, 05:14:42 PM
What we all forget is that playing import games, one of the key things HBC does as well, is also considered bad by NOA.  This isn't just about piracy.

Because we're not allowed to reach outside the pram for toys that aren't ours yet.

Or never will be ours...*SNIFF*  :'(
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 25, 2010, 05:54:18 PM
To be fair, the "Homebrew" channel is a pirate tactic.  Now, I'm not saying there isn't legitimate uses for the HBC - but that's like saying guns aren't murder weapons because some people use them legitimately. ;)

Guns are used for self-defense, hunting, target shooting, etc. They can be used for murder, but you know what? a pencil can be used for murder too if you jam it in someone's throat... What determines whether guns are bad or not is how they are used. The same is true with the HBC. I'm sure not everyone uses it for piracy.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Mop it up on June 25, 2010, 06:00:08 PM
The Homebrew Channel is like a set of kitchen knives. They are designed for the preparation of food, but there's nothing stopping anyone from stabbing someone with them. Should kitchen knives be pulled from store shelves?
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: UncleBob on June 25, 2010, 07:50:53 PM
I'm not saying you should or shouldn't be allowed to install the HBC.

Merely saying that it *is* a "pirate tactic" (one of many) used on the Wii.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: stevey on September 08, 2010, 08:48:23 PM
Bump!

There's another new update that does nothing new and is required for the Shop Channel to work. The update now waste more of the internal memory by installing all the Korean IOSs (all 7 of which will never ever be touch by anything/anyone ever) and the Shop Channel now wants the latest IOS 56 instead of IOS 61. Good news is that it does not attempt to delete the latest Homebrew Channel or bootmii.

http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/wii/en_na/systemMenuFeatures.jsp
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 08, 2010, 09:02:08 PM
why would I need Korean IOS's?

someone please explain this to me.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: MegaByte on September 08, 2010, 09:03:30 PM
Hackers were exploiting them to install homebrew.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 08, 2010, 10:06:29 PM
As someone who never installed the previous update and used a workaround to get the Shop working again, what should I do?
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: MegaByte on September 08, 2010, 10:07:35 PM
Same thing.  However, this update was also on the Metroid disc.  It's an old exploit though, independent of newer homebrew.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Mop it up on September 08, 2010, 11:23:54 PM
Same thing.  However, this update was also on the Metroid disc.
If that's true then this is strange. That update took no more than a minute to install. When I went to download the update from the notice that was sent to Wii systems, it took over ten minutes. Also, in the past, it would just tell me I already had the latest update instead of installing it again.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: MegaByte on September 08, 2010, 11:43:12 PM
They also updated the Shop Channel.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Kytim89 on September 08, 2010, 11:53:08 PM
They also updated the Shop Channel.

In what ways? Is it easier to manage and faster to down load games?
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: MegaByte on September 09, 2010, 12:02:48 AM
Hahaha yeah right.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv0Og3xM4vM
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 09, 2010, 04:06:16 AM
So this is yet another in a long string of Wii system updates which do absolutely nothing except fight piracy? Come on Nintendo! It would be nice to see some new features for a change.
Title: Re: System Update
Post by: Morari on September 09, 2010, 11:12:18 AM
Nintendo would rather not waste time and money creating new features to benefit their customers. Maybe fighting some endless, losing battle against piracy pleases the share holders?