Post by: D_MaN87 on November 22, 2006, 09:42:12 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 22, 2006, 09:58:17 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 22, 2006, 10:03:07 AM
Post by: D_MaN87 on November 22, 2006, 10:24:19 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
I would study this if I had a Gamecube controller on hand...They are all at a friend's place... =|
No classic controller?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 22, 2006, 10:34:42 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 22, 2006, 11:16:14 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
I would study this if I had a Gamecube controller on hand...They are all at a friend's place... =|
No classic controller?
There isn't a store by me that has them in stock... ;_;
Post by: TrueNerd on November 22, 2006, 11:51:07 AM
Post by: Edfishy on November 22, 2006, 02:14:25 PM
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It's running in 480p instead of the original 320x240 resolution, so it's going to look a lot better.
If that's true, that's absolutely fantastic. There's really very little reason for Nintendo not to bump up the resolution, and the framerates should stay steady at their intended 20-30 fps.
I can't wait until some graphical heavy N64 games are up for grabs so that some more recognizable comparisons can be made. Had I a Wii, I'd gladly hook up my N64 and Wii to my computer to take comparison screenshots/videos.
This is something of much interest to me.
Post by: darknight06 on November 22, 2006, 02:28:42 PM
Post by: Bartman3010 on November 22, 2006, 02:57:00 PM
Also, maybe its just me, but the HUD graphics look less sharp than originally, also theres an emulation error at the beginning of the game. Look at the front door of the castle before walking on the bridge. You'll see Lakitu sitting at the front steps, before he 'warps' behind Mario to talk.
All in all, its the same game as was on the 64. No Luigi, no 30 extra stars, no 'game fixes'. Its the same game from 10 years ago.
Post by: Edfishy on November 22, 2006, 03:15:05 PM
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All in all, its the same game as was on the 64. No Luigi, no 30 extra stars, no 'game fixes'. Its the same game from 10 years ago.
Yes, but this gives me hope for some of those laggier, low resolution N64 games.
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Also, maybe its just me, but the HUD graphics look less sharp than originally
They may have enabled some sort of a diffusion option on the texture rather than let the low-res pixely textures show up in all their glory.
Post by: trip1eX on November 22, 2006, 03:19:40 PM
Post by: 18 Days on November 22, 2006, 03:56:50 PM
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Originally posted by: Edfishy
I can't wait until some graphical heavy N64 games are up for grabs so that some more recognizable comparisons can be made. Had I a Wii, I'd gladly hook up my N64 and Wii to my computer to take comparison screenshots/videos.
The only graphical heavy N64 games I can think of are by Acclaim and Rare. I'd be surprised if any of those appeared on the VC. Also World Driver Championship but again company no longer exiosts although Midway might still hold the rights tot he game.
Post by: Edfishy on November 22, 2006, 04:12:48 PM
-- This brings up another issue I just thought about: Will you need to buy a "Virtual Expansion Pack"? Doubtful, but I'm a little suspicious.
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 22, 2006, 05:16:28 PM
Post by: Shecky on November 22, 2006, 05:37:21 PM
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Originally posted by: Bartman3010
All in all, its the same game as was on the 64. No Luigi, no 30 extra stars, no 'game fixes'. Its the same game from 10 years ago.
"Game fixes"? Were there some notible fixes in the DS version?
Post by: 18 Days on November 22, 2006, 07:32:07 PM
:p
Post by: Blue Plant on November 22, 2006, 08:02:43 PM
Post by: Tansunn on November 22, 2006, 11:06:39 PM
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 23, 2006, 03:37:10 AM
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Of course not. The expansion pack was 2MB of RAM...the Wii has 88MB...which makes me think some of the "bigger" (as in file size) N64 games might not be coming to the Wii because of this.
Fixed.
Also theres no reason why a bigger file size game would have any issues on Wii Because you have 512MB on the Wii onboard and if you had to delete a game for some reason you could delete X virtual console game and redownload it free of charge(assuming you never close your virtual console account) or always back it up on a SD. I believe games as in file size on N64 maxed out at 512Mb or 64MB and I believe that game was Resident Evil 2.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 23, 2006, 03:43:21 AM
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 23, 2006, 03:53:48 AM
Edit - I'm not talking about file size. The ROM is loaded into RAM, a 64MB ROM would take up 64MB RAM.
Edit again - actually I guess I am talking about file size and where the ROM is loaded.
Post by: IceCold on November 29, 2006, 06:44:51 PM
Post by: Caliban on November 30, 2006, 10:23:55 AM
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 30, 2006, 12:30:58 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 30, 2006, 12:59:06 PM
The resolution advantage the VC version has is plain as day, which is why the pixels are not gigantoid.
Using composites for the N64 shots wouldn't make the gigantoid pixels go away.
Post by: wandering on November 30, 2006, 01:23:55 PM
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The resolution advantage the VC version has is plain as day
If by advantage you mean disadvantage.
320x240 4 life
Post by: Smoke39 on November 30, 2006, 02:45:03 PM
Post by: Edfishy on November 30, 2006, 03:44:24 PM
Post by: Entroper on November 30, 2006, 04:27:38 PM
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Originally posted by: Bartman3010
Super Mario 64 does indeed run faster, since its not using N64 hardware, though some of the nifty effects are gone, such as the Invisible Cap Mario doesnt look like colored static as was on the original; just transparent.
I believe this is due to them not porting over the procedural texture effects programmed for the N64's graphics processor. I also noticed similar changes in Ocarina of Time for the Gamecube (on the bonus disc that came with Wind Waker); the Twinrova fire/ice "splash" effects on the floor were quite different, and the nasty purple gloom stuff that haunts Kakariko and covers Bongo Bongo when he dies were replaced with just a bland brownish blob.
