Post by: couchmonkey on November 16, 2006, 08:10:12 AM
I will have to get this game sooner or later, but because of Wii it might wind up being later. I've seen that reviews are ranging anywhere from "awesome sequel we've been waiting for" to "meh". The review I trust the most, IGN, suggests that it's a faithful sequel but fails to surprise enough. Sounds good enough to me.
Opinions, please!
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on November 16, 2006, 08:38:10 AM
This probably won't be the only game to disappear in all the PS3 and Wii hype. We must be vigilant.
Post by: Ian Sane on November 16, 2006, 09:59:55 AM
The general opinion seems to be that it's a good game, it's just really derivative. I think that's kind of a shame but Yoshi's Island is one of my favourite games of all time so having more of it is still pretty damn awesome. I guess it's better that Artoon played it safe and got a good game out of it instead of getting in over their head and releasing a turd.
Post by: hudsonhawk on November 16, 2006, 10:04:13 AM
It's nice to have quality options on the system again. Good games have been coming out at a ferocious pace in the last 2 months.
The only thing holding me back from getting it is my disappointment in the New Super Mario Bros. It's soured me a little on 2d platformers. This could either reawaken my love for them or do nothing for me. I'm not sure yet.
I've never played the original so I'm not to worried about the derivativeness.
Post by: Smoke39 on November 16, 2006, 10:12:25 AM
Post by: vudu on November 16, 2006, 10:17:18 AM
The problem is it's just going to remind me how much I want Yoshi's Island for the VC.
I haven't really been paying much attention to this game (mainly because I know I'll probably get it anyway); is there any touch screen functionality (a kin to shooting eggs in Touch N Go) or is it all D-pad and buttons?
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 16, 2006, 10:55:38 AM
(So far, all D-pad + buttons...)
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 16, 2006, 03:14:26 PM
Post by: Smoke39 on November 16, 2006, 03:28:18 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 16, 2006, 03:37:02 PM
Post by: Smoke39 on November 16, 2006, 05:29:16 PM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on November 17, 2006, 01:44:34 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on November 17, 2006, 05:15:02 AM
Agreed. It seems to be a Nintendo rule that if they make a change to a franchise that really sucks it sticks for all eternity. Yoshi is an obvious example. Another example is the DK Rap which for some reason has reappeared in SSBM. Another example is Star Fox which has forever been tainted by Star Fox Adventures. Krystal should have NEVER been in any other Star Fox game. Nintendo should just acknowledge that sometimes they make a sh!tty game and that game should just be conveniently forgotten about. Yoshi's Story should just be quietly removed from Mario canon. It's not like Mario has a tight story that would be affected by past games being ignored.
I'll live with the voice like I live with Mario's stupid voice but it will hurt my enjoyment of the game somewhat. I much prefer the "yeah-uh" sound used in Super Mario World.
Post by: couchmonkey on November 17, 2006, 07:14:03 AM
Edit: I really wanted to pick this game up today, but I need every penny for Wii, since I don't have any PS3s to make me rich, rich, RICH!
Post by: Ian Sane on November 17, 2006, 08:00:39 AM
This reminds of something else that Yoshi's Story introduced I didn't care for. Every Yoshi is named Yoshi. Huh? In Super Mario World I just assumed that Yoshi was the dinosaur's name. Though there are multiple dinosaurs in the game so that might not have been a good assumption. But in Super Mario RPG one Yoshi is named Boshi. So what does that mean? Every Yoshi is named Yoshi except for one Yoshi named Boshi? Little screwups like that drive me nuts. It would be much easier if the species was called Yoshi and the green dude was named Yoshi (kind of like Mario Mario) and then other Yoshis had different names.
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 17, 2006, 09:24:52 AM
Everything seems to drive you nuts...I'm glad I'm not your roommate!
"I HAVE LINT ON MY CLOTHES!"
"Well, take it off..."
"BUT, LINT! SO ANGRY!"
Yoshi is Yoshi, this is hardly an issue...I don't go to sleep at night wondering why all the Yoshis are called Yoshi...
Post by: couchmonkey on November 17, 2006, 10:30:51 AM
(c) 1993 Nintendo of America.
P.S. Has anyone ever read "Even a Monkey can Draw Manga"? It's co-written by one of the guys who worked on Super Mario Bros. Adventures and it sounds hilarious.
Post by: Ian Sane on November 17, 2006, 11:29:12 AM
Neither do I. HOW COULD I FALL ASLEEP WITH THIS PRESSING ISSUE ON MY MIND?!! Insomnia since 1997 or 98 or whatever the hell year it was!
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 17, 2006, 12:35:08 PM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on November 17, 2006, 02:44:34 PM
Post by: IceCold on November 17, 2006, 06:08:20 PM
QuoteIt's a Square game..
Every Yoshi is named Yoshi except for one Yoshi named Boshi? Little screwups like that drive me nuts.
Post by: Ian Sane on November 20, 2006, 04:49:20 AM
I don't mind that. Part of what makes Touch Fuzzy, Get Dizzy great is that it's so unique. It isn't something I would want to see repeated in several games. I would prefer to have something as unique and different as it that gives me that same "this is so cool" feeling the first time I played it.
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 20, 2006, 05:24:28 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on November 20, 2006, 05:42:15 AM
Does it count as drug abuse if it's accidental? Yoshi quite clearly isn't abusing drugs, he's just made accidental contact with a creature that cause hallucinogenic effects. It's like if you ate some strange mushrooms because you were hungry and thought they were food.
Post by: vudu on November 20, 2006, 06:01:23 AM
QuoteThis happens more often than you think.
It's like if you ate some strange mushrooms because you were hungry and thought they were food.
I totally need to pick up this game.
Post by: KDR_11k on November 20, 2006, 06:08:42 AM
Post by: Pikachelsea on November 25, 2006, 01:31:45 PM
Pros:
- Same solid sidescrolling gameplay
- Throwing eggs feels the same (thank God)
- Changing babies to achieve different goals is usually fun, clever, and well-executed
- Art style is different enough to feel fresh but not too different
Cons:
- I don't like the music as much as the music in Yoshi's Island... just not as catchy and upbeat
- THEY TOOK OUT ITEMS!! wtf. On the one hand, this makes the levels a lot harder because you actually have to finish with 30 stars to get 100%... can't just whip out the "+20 stars" item. However, I don't understand why they had to do this. In the first game, you only had to get to the end with all 30 stars on the boss levels... now you have to do it with every level. On the other hand, this adds an extra (albeit annoying) degree of challenge... so if you're into that, move this to the "pros" list.
- You can't push Chomp Rocks at the speed of light and gain ultra momentum, they only go a very slow top speed (minor complaint)
- There is the occasional "Donkey Kong 64" moment when you see an item you can't get, realize you have the wrong baby and it's too late to change to the right one. VERY IRRITATING when this happens since every level has a character coin and you have to have the right baby to collect it. Having the wrong baby at the time usually means you will have to play through the whole level again just to get it.
- Maybe it's just me but it seems like there are lots more "points of no return" in this game than the original. e.g. You go to the next room, and you can't go back... or you fall down a cliff and can't get back up once you're down there. Again, not a huge deal but it gets irritating when you realize you're not going to get 100% because you saw two ways to go and chose the wrong way.
I haven't beaten the whole game yet but what I've seen so far is good overall and I'd say it's definitely worth a purchase for any fan of the original.
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 25, 2006, 01:43:46 PM
Post by: 18 Days on November 26, 2006, 01:43:14 AM
I can't say I'm impressed.
I mean the game is good but it just doens't feel right. The game is so close to the original Yoshi's Island that it could almost be an alternative set of maps. Despite this it lacks the polish. As whiny as it sounds, I have a huge problem with the animation. Yoshi doesn't seem to ascend stairs properly, he doesn't seem to run or walk properly. Why do I need a run button now? Especially how it seems to have no bearing on jump distance. Why can't the DS render transparency? Why do the dual screens seem to be slightly out of sync? The "dead zone" between the screens doesn't seem to correlate witht he actualy distance between the DS screens. Why are the buttons unresponsive? And why are extra lives SO BLOODY ABUNDANT? I had 37 by the end of the THIRD LEVEL. I don't even know how many I have now, I suspect it could already be maxed out.
I just have all this little problems with the game and they seem to indicate a lack of polish.
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 30, 2006, 12:19:00 PM
Post by: Chode2234 on December 02, 2006, 01:27:37 PM
Bu if the other one pissed me off a little, with the shooting of eggs and the wierd proportions, is the DS one any better?
Post by: hudsonhawk on December 08, 2006, 06:25:31 AM
There's a wealth of 2d side-scrollers available now from Nintendo for the DS but they all feel sort of samey and uninspired. The only one I've liked was Kirby Canvas Curse, and to a lesser extent New Super Mario Bros.
It seems to me like Nintendo's increased reliance on outsourcing is hurting their quality.
Post by: KDR_11k on December 09, 2006, 06:08:27 PM
Not many if you don't count the bad ones.
Post by: RiskyChris on December 11, 2006, 03:46:26 PM
