Dude... those controller gloves look SLICK... packages of three, either a red/blue/pink or green/black/silver? ... The latter is just drab enough to be my style! I'm actually considering accessorizing my Wii!!!! ...ARGH NINTENDO STOP TURNING ME INTO UBER CONSUMER!!!
... god... they've even got me considering buying Wii DOGTAGS... and I don't even know what I'd do with them!
~Carmine M. Red Kairon@aol.com
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Post by: BigJim on October 07, 2006, 03:00:02 PM
Nice find, interesting toys.
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Post by: BlkPaladin on October 07, 2006, 03:11:00 PM
Well for those worring about the virtual console there was some good news from that in the mark up list there is the Points Card that is used to buy content.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on October 07, 2006, 03:14:57 PM
One of those dogtags is totally mine!
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Post by: Ceric on October 07, 2006, 03:31:25 PM
One of those green gloves is totally mine! (I recently saw something similar on a 360 controller, held it, and promptly asked if they made some for the Wavebird as well. They didn't so I'm happy to see it for the Wii, I have greasy hands. Now I just have to find the little lanyard thinging to go on it. I have a Winnie the Pooh in a Hamster suit for my DS.)
The Wii only roughly has a 5% markup for retailers. Is that normal on consoles?
I'll have to see the dogtags and the lapel pins in person.
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Post by: stevey on October 07, 2006, 03:36:36 PM
How many points will their be in a point card if nintendo only making $17 on each one? And I really like the idea of dog-tags, especially when I bring over my $60 controller to a friend house and dont want them mix up....
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Post by: WuTangTurtle on October 07, 2006, 04:11:45 PM
I wonder if they could plz make a translucent wiimote glove, and is it me or is that a wiimote stand....no more laying the controllers for everyone to step on.
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Post by: Kairon on October 07, 2006, 04:14:08 PM
Yeah, typically retailers make SQUAT on actual hardware sales. Thus the advent of forcing consumers to buy bundles so the retailer can make some assured profit.
Interesting here is that the Wii is sold to retailers at around $235... I wonder how much of that is profit for Nintendo if any? And if the Nunchuck and VC controllers are sold to retailers for $14.50, my oh my that's a ton of profit for Nintendo for those cheap motion sensors, an analog stick, wires, plastic, and two buttons... please drop your cost-to-retailer price so you can drop at least the nunchuck's price to $15 MSRP and don't make so much profit plz!
~Carmine M. Red Kairon@aol.com
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Post by: Caliban on October 07, 2006, 05:01:25 PM
I read your posts before I saw the pics and I actually thought they would have hand gloves lol...so it's basically a controller skin, cool, if they had them selling individually I would get 2 black controller gloves, now if only they had Wii skins.
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Post by: UncleBob on October 07, 2006, 05:37:30 PM
You guys know this is the kind of stuff I live for, right?
Anywhoo, I wonder if these dog tags are of a nice metal that you could take to your local Wal*Mart (or such) and get them engraved...
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Post by: King of Twitch on October 07, 2006, 09:23:23 PM
It seems the PS3 would need the dog tags, as it is going to be massacred this holiday. Also I hope I can buy Wii points in increments other than 24.99.
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Post by: BlkPaladin on October 07, 2006, 09:35:38 PM
I suspect that it will be about $20/25 worth of points, since I expect since you can buy them online, Nintendo will be willing to take a cut just to get a person hooked.
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Post by: KDR_11k on October 07, 2006, 11:58:44 PM
I'd say we'll get points according to the final price, not the price to retailers. After all the customer doesn't give a damn how much of the money actually went to Nintendo, they only know how much they're paying.
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Post by: wandering on October 08, 2006, 01:32:41 AM
It's hard not to think, looking at these pictures, that the Wii will be a huge success. The virtual boy didn't have no dog tags!
Quote I actually thought they would have hand gloves lol.
Yeah, me too.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 08, 2006, 01:45:58 AM
Any of you guys know about how much stores make off the games? I've always wondered that, anyway those goodies look pretty neat, I may have to pick some up!
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Post by: Michael8983 on October 08, 2006, 02:01:24 AM
Do the controller gloves imply that there may be just one STANDARD white remote as opposed to the multitude of colors we were expecting?
Also, what, if any, other games have been announced for launch? I seriously hope it's not JUST those three.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 08, 2006, 02:38:47 AM
I believe the announced games so far for launch are:
Rayman Excite Truck Legend of Zelda Red Steel
Ones that I'm not sure about: Elebits Madden FarCry GT Call of Duty 3 Marvel Alliance
About the Wiimote colors, I have no idea.
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Post by: Kairon on October 08, 2006, 08:38:06 AM
Nintendo's actually still holding a lot of information back, like the exact day one launch lineup, or the virtual console line-up, etc.
And I want to go back to the consoleprice to retailers: retailers are making more than 10 bucks off of every system sold... If the XBox 360 and PS3 are sold to retailers at MSRP (hence no profit at all) and the Wii is sold at lower than MSRP (hence actual profit), could this be Nintendo giving retailers an incentive to carry and push Nintendo systems?
~Carmine M. Red Kairon@aol.com
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Post by: Caterkiller on October 08, 2006, 09:14:16 AM
Awesome. I am really excited for the controller skins! During my main Gamecube days, my brother, sister, and I each had our own wavebirds. And so we wouldn't mix them up, I put these little Pokemon elemental stickers on them I got years ago when Gold and Silver came out. We wont look like losers any more who just had to make due with crummy stickers. Now we'll look like losers with cool controllers!
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Post by: WindyMan on October 08, 2006, 11:10:44 AM
When it launched, the PS2 retailed for $300 and stores made $9 off of it. The Xbox retailed for $300 and stores bought it for $301 (I think). The GameCube made stores about $10 when it retailed for $200.
I think these figures just show how much Nintendo is overpricing their accessories. The controller costs $40 at retail, but Nintendo sells it to stores at $32...Nintendo must easily be making $15 or $20 per remote. Nintendo could have just as easily packaged the remote and nunchuk together for $50 and still be making a lot of money... but they decided to gouge consumers and make even more. That's what I believe.
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Post by: WuTangTurtle on October 08, 2006, 11:12:42 AM
Kairon all systems sell for a profit for retailers except for those that retailers buy before a price cut is set, that is why sometimes you see retailers sell those pre-price cut systems at the old price instead of the new price.
The difference in what the retailers pay and what MSRP is does not have much to do with Nintendo's profit at all. The system is probably costing Nintendo $220 to make so they probably sell it at $230 to retailers where they turn around and sell it at $249.99 MSRP so everyone makes money on it.
Games on the other hand only give retailers >$5 each, when i worked at Sam Goody we had a way of finding out how much a CD, DVD, Games, or anything else in the store would profit us per sale. CDs we would usually only make $2-5. This is why u see music stores and game stores sell used products, it really is the only real profit making items.
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Post by: wandering on October 08, 2006, 11:15:31 AM
Quote Nintendo sells it to stores at $32...Nintendo must easily be making $15 or $20 per remote.
So...you think it costs Nintendo $12-17 to make each remote?
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Post by: BigJim on October 08, 2006, 11:33:56 AM
Heh. I just realized those displays are all cardboard.
They definitely get a small slice on the other consoles too. I forget exactly what the store cost was, but some site similar to Digg or engadget had itemized the 360 stock like this.
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Post by: BigJim on October 08, 2006, 11:39:01 AM
It costs MS about $15 to make, package, and ship the 360 wireless controllers. They take a good chunk of profit on top of that, and the retailers probably get around $8-$10ish too.
I can't fathom the Wiimote costing more than $20 tops.
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on October 08, 2006, 12:13:27 PM
So the controller gloves are basically skins?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 08, 2006, 02:19:03 PM
I ANTICIPATE THEY HELP PREVENT SLIPPAGE AND IMPROVE GRIP
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Post by: KnowsNothing on October 08, 2006, 02:25:03 PM
AND ALSO they can help differentiate between remotes. MY remote is PINK, and yours is GREEN. That helps the whole "only one color controller" complaint.
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Post by: Smoke39 on October 08, 2006, 02:57:26 PM
I'd prefer a real pink remote to a white one with a tacky rubber thingy on it. And what about the nunchakus? O:
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Post by: UncleBob on October 08, 2006, 03:03:11 PM
Okay, go with me here on the gloves... why the heck are they in packs of three? If you have One Controller, you have two extra gloves. If you have Two Controllers, you have one extra glove. If you have Three Controllers, you're just right. If you have Four Controllers, you either have two extra gloves or you have a nekkid controller.
Wouldn't it had made much more sense to pack these in pairs? I mean, what would the percentage of owners with exactly *three* controllers anyway? I would assume the grand majority would either have one (as they bought the system), two or four....
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on October 08, 2006, 04:38:49 PM
Quote Originally posted by: UncleBob Wouldn't it had made much more sense to pack these in pairs? I mean, what would the percentage of owners with exactly *three* controllers anyway? I would assume the grand majority would either have one (as they bought the system), two or four....
I have three N64 controllers and three Gamecube controllers. >.>
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Post by: stevey on October 08, 2006, 04:53:14 PM
maybe one glove comes with the wii for free...
why they call a glove anyway their more like skin/condom/grips then gloves
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Post by: 31 Flavas on October 08, 2006, 05:33:42 PM
So what were the wholesale prices on other controllers? Like any prior Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft controller, or even the countless knock off 3rd party ones. It's rather baseless to lambast Nintendo if you don't have some corroborating evidence.
Even still slim margin in wholesale prices isn't really reliable, since the wholesaler could just ripping the retailer off.
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Post by: BlkPaladin on October 08, 2006, 08:36:45 PM
If I remember correctly a gamecube controller cost the retailer 10-to-14 dollars depending on the supplier. And I just relized why the console has that big of a markup. The Wii sports game that is included. If you notice that th other games are marked up about $10.00, so its the cost of the game.
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Post by: Strell on October 09, 2006, 10:43:33 AM
Quote Originally posted by: UncleBob Okay, go with me here on the gloves... why the heck are they in packs of three? If you have One Controller, you have two extra gloves. If you have Two Controllers, you have one extra glove. If you have Three Controllers, you're just right. If you have Four Controllers, you either have two extra gloves or you have a nekkid controller.
Wouldn't it had made much more sense to pack these in pairs? I mean, what would the percentage of owners with exactly *three* controllers anyway? I would assume the grand majority would either have one (as they bought the system), two or four....
Why do hot dogs come in packages of 10 but hot dog buns come in packages of 8?
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Post by: Caliban on October 09, 2006, 11:05:29 AM
Because there will be one and only one person to have 2 dogs in a bun.
Edit > Actually it's 3 dogs in a bun. 10-3=7 dogs / 8-1=7 buns, 7 for 7. Which is why there are alarming levels of obesity in North-America.
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Post by: couchmonkey on October 09, 2006, 11:22:59 AM
People, people, Nintendo is ripping us off, but so is every other company under the sun.
Companies are out there to make money. The things you buy every day may be worth half or less than half of what you're paying for them (depends on the thing) but that's just the laws of economics at work. People will pay X dollars for a thingie of lipstick, so that's what the company charges, even if it only cost them 30 cents to make.
If consumers are willing to pay it, then that's how much you should charge.
So...if you don't like the controller prices, don't buy any. That's how you send the message to Nintendo and retailers that the prices are too high.
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Post by: Kairon on October 09, 2006, 11:38:12 AM
/cry
I'm spending an additional $180 at launch.
~Carmine M. Red Kairon@aol.com
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Post by: Caliban on October 09, 2006, 11:42:12 AM
Why the /cry, is there someone pointing a gun stuck to your cranium? I know what you mean, but once the feeling of purchase-assurance comes forth from this extra sacrifice, won't you feel rewarded?
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Post by: Spak-Spang on October 09, 2006, 01:33:24 PM
Nintendo is not ripping us off.
We do not have any idea how much money it costs to actually make a controller. All we know is how much it costs the retail stores to buy the controllers...and those stores deserve to make a profit off of the products they are selling to us.
Besides packaging...remember Nintendo is also investing money in research and development of this wonderful new device we want to play...and advertising costs must be calculated into everything as well.
I think we have are becoming spoiled sometimes. We just always complain companies are ripping us off and cheating us. The truth is, these companies spent alot of time and investment in creating a product we want to play...and as such they deserve to make a profit off of it. The profit they deserve to make is based on what we are willing to pay for the product. Believe it or not companies do extensive research in this area...find the optimal price to make the most money and get the product in as many hands as possible.
I didn't find any of these prices shocking or outrageous. But perhaps that is just me.
What really shocks me is thinking about Xbox 360 and PS3...if they are losing money on each system, and advertising...how are they going to make money up at all on their systems?
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Post by: Kairon on October 09, 2006, 01:47:18 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Caliban Why the /cry, is there someone pointing a gun stuck to your cranium? I know what you mean, but once the feeling of purchase-assurance comes forth from this extra sacrifice, won't you feel rewarded?
Couch Monkey scared me
Oh, but seriously. I won't be regretting buying extra controllers at launch because I really intend to act as a Wii Ambassador in my dorms. I've budgeted for it too, so the sting isn't as bad as for everyone else.
~Carmine M. Red Kairon@aol.com
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Post by: Spak-Spang on October 09, 2006, 01:54:31 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Kairon
Quote Originally posted by: Caliban Why the /cry, is there someone pointing a gun stuck to your cranium? I know what you mean, but once the feeling of purchase-assurance comes forth from this extra sacrifice, won't you feel rewarded?
Couch Monkey scared me
Oh, but seriously. I won't be regretting buying extra controllers at launch because I really intend to act as a Wii Ambassador in my dorms. I've budgeted for it too, so the sting isn't as bad as for everyone else.
~Carmine M. Red Kairon@aol.com
I am also acting like a "Wii Ambassador" luckly I am getting my extra controllers for my birthday from my mother-in-law. Its perfect. I will have 3 controllers on Sunday, and 2 games. I am now trying to figure out what two games I will get. Zelda...and a good party game. I am going to wait until the reviews of games come out before I decide...but I am looking at:
Super Monkey Ball Red Steel/Far Cry (which ever gets better review and multiplayer impressions)
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Post by: Smoke39 on October 09, 2006, 02:44:44 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
Red Steel/Far Cry (which ever gets better review and multiplayer impressions)
Support new IPs; buy Red Steel. O:
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Post by: Spak-Spang on October 09, 2006, 05:50:46 PM
Smoke: Hey I am leaning that way...I love the atmosphere of Red Steel...Japan rocks.
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Post by: Smash_Brother on October 09, 2006, 07:36:08 PM
With the three pack of condomotes, you can have one bare controller and the other three will be differentiated by their respective colors.
However, I would MUCH prefer to buy them individually rather than a 3 pak of predetermined colors which I don't like.
Were it up to me, I'd have 1p red, 2p blue, 3p yellow 4p green: the classic SSB player layout which I had with my N64.
I'm just hoping you can buy them separately: it also makes more sense for people who will be buying only one extra controller.
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Post by: couchmonkey on October 10, 2006, 05:43:05 AM
I'm also acting like a Wii ambassador...so I guess those $60 controllers are not such a bad deal after all, eh?
I was hyperbolizing in my last post, I don't think Nintendo is actually ripping us off, I think it's just making a profit, like any smart company would. I do get a bit frustrated with Nintendo at times, the one thing I'm not looking forward to this generation is that if Nintendo does pull off a first place win, average game prices will probably go up. No more greatest hits. All that said, Nintendo is simply running a business, and yes, there are other costs for the company than the plain cost of manufacturing the final products.