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Title: Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 24, 2006, 03:05:22 PM
Since this appears to be the big launch title for PS3, it is only best to have a topic about it. My personal opinion is that I am not too impressed from what I seen, the other day I watched a video gaming show and they were mainly focusing on the game. The visuals look nice (not amazing but nice), but the game looks super generic, even the weapons give that sense of it being generic. It appears to be yet another FPS with alien creatures (yeah I know they are called chimeras but they are basically aliens) that you run around shooting, the game appears to be quite shallow from what I've seen.
Title: RE: Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 24, 2006, 06:42:03 PM
I'm pretty sure this game came out in 2001, and it was called Halo.
Title: RE: Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: Nick DiMola on September 24, 2006, 06:51:00 PM
"I'm pretty sure this game came out in 2001, and it was called Halo."

Damn, I really don't want to have to deal with another group of idiots praising a totally craptacular game.
Title: RE:Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on September 24, 2006, 09:32:27 PM
I played it. It is really generic. It seems to support a lot of players, though...
Title: RE:Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 24, 2006, 10:01:44 PM
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Originally posted by: S-U-P-E-R
I played it. It is really generic. It seems to support a lot of players, though...


Yeah that was impressive, but then again it will mainly depend on how well multiplayer is designed, alot of players in a poorly designed multiplayer game is not the best thing. BTW where did you play it? Also I did get a Halo vibe while watching it in motion (not a good thing), at least the single player mode had that vibe where you mow down endless hordes of enemies.  Not to mention the fact that the lead game designer they interviewed did not inspire confidence in him, I don't know how often he was saying how "cool" the game is, and how great the guns are (all but one looked generic as heck).
Title: RE:Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: vudu on September 25, 2006, 09:15:10 AM
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Originally posted by: Brandogg
I'm pretty sure this game came out in 2004, and it was called Killzone.
Fixed.
Title: RE:Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: TrueNerd on September 25, 2006, 10:15:14 AM
Well, this is from Insomniac and they usually don't suck. I hear weapon design is a forte of the game, as is 40 player multiplayer, but you have to do some really special things to set yourself apart in the FPS genre and I don't know that this game will. I guess I'll find out in 3-4 years when I buy a used PS3 for $200.  
Title: RE: Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: couchmonkey on September 25, 2006, 10:44:48 AM
It looks okay, but I have to agree on getting a Halo vibe from it.
Title: RE:Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 25, 2006, 11:38:48 AM
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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
It looks okay, but I have to agree on getting a Halo vibe from it.


When I get a PS3 WAY down the line I may try it unless it gets skewered by reviews. The only weapon I thought was decent was the one where an electrical bolt can go through multiple enemies at once (the rocketlauncher where you can control the rocket was decent as well).
Title: RE: Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 25, 2006, 04:01:14 PM
(the rocketlauncher where you can control the rocket was decent as well).

That's original!  Oh wait...
Title: RE: Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: wandering on September 25, 2006, 04:05:40 PM
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the other day I watched a video gaming show and they were mainly focusing on the game.

yeah, gamehead is counting down to the launch of the 'system everyone can't wait to get their hands on' by focusing on something ps3-related every week. It's almost like another console isn't launching around the same time....
Title: RE:Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 25, 2006, 05:13:00 PM
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Originally posted by: wandering
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the other day I watched a video gaming show and they were mainly focusing on the game.

yeah, gamehead is counting down to the launch of the 'system everyone can't wait to get their hands on' by focusing on something ps3-related every week. It's almost like another console isn't launching around the same time....


Yep that is the show! I just caught it when I was flipping through the channels, talk about a bunch of Sony fans lol.
Title: RE:Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on September 25, 2006, 06:23:18 PM
I played it at TGS. They set up our crew with a 5 v 5 objective based match (like Halo's territories or somesuch). Although it really doesn't remind me of Halo that much. They should have named it BATTLEFIELD VS DOOM SUPER TURBO.

I've never had a FPS feel right on a PS2 controller, though (as opposed to XBOX or N64)... I had a lot of trouble aiming.
Title: RE:Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 25, 2006, 11:05:58 PM
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Originally posted by: TrueNerd
Well, this is from Insomniac and they usually don't suck. I hear weapon design is a forte of the game, as is 40 player multiplayer, but you have to do some really special things to set yourself apart in the FPS genre and I don't know that this game will. I guess I'll find out in 3-4 years when I buy a used PS3 for $200.


I had forgotten what games Insomniac has done, and now that I have researched them a bit, I'm not sure I am confident in their ability to make a FPS. Yeah the R&C series along with Spyro were good, solid games, they were platformers (ratchet was more action oriented but still a platformer).  So honestly I don't see them creating the game as a ringing endorsement when they haven't even dabbled in the FPS genre.
Title: RE: Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: Nick DiMola on September 26, 2006, 03:35:51 AM
"I guess I'll find out in 3-4 years when I buy a used PS3 for $200."

Ouch. I really hope in 3-4 years the PS3 is cheaper than that (smaller too). It's just painful thinking about how damn expensive this console is and how you aren't really getting any bang for your buck.
Title: RE: Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: Caliban on September 26, 2006, 05:52:51 PM
Either Kutaragi or Hirai said at E3 that the PS3 will not drop price within 5 years from launch, until they start having a profit from producing the PS3 don't expect a price drop.
Title: RE:Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: IceCold on September 26, 2006, 07:54:51 PM
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Originally posted by: Caliban
Either Kutaragi or Hirai said at E3 that the PS3 will not drop price within 5 years from launch, until they start having a profit from producing the PS3 don't expect a price drop.
I know that these people actually say these things, but whenever I hear something stupid from Sony I can't help wondering if they actually said that. No price drop until then would be suicide in the worst of fashions..
Title: RE:Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: TrueNerd on September 26, 2006, 09:40:12 PM
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Originally posted by: VGrevolution
I had forgotten what games Insomniac has done, and now that I have researched them a bit, I'm not sure I am confident in their ability to make a FPS. Yeah the R&C series along with Spyro were good, solid games, they were platformers (ratchet was more action oriented but still a platformer).  So honestly I don't see them creating the game as a ringing endorsement when they haven't even dabbled in the FPS genre.
Alright, forget who's making the game. What about the awesome controller shaking feature to shake off aliens that grab onto you? Eh? That do anything for ya?

Anyways, what you said was true. Usually developers first efforts in the FPS genre are not their best. Wolfenstein 3D had to come before Doom which had to come before Quake. Half-Life had to come before Half-Life 2. GoldenEye had to come before TimeSplitters 3. Perfect Dark had to come before, er, wait, that's not a good example. You get the point.  
Title: RE:Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 26, 2006, 10:06:40 PM
Shaking a controller to get aliens off you definately is innovative to the extreme, I take everything bad I said about this game which I once thought was a lame attempt at a Halo clone and generic as heck :-P.  
Title: RE:Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on September 26, 2006, 10:31:39 PM
FPS games have single player modes?




I doubt it
Title: RE: Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: Smoke39 on September 26, 2006, 10:57:46 PM
Half-Life 1 > Half-Life 2
also Doom > Quake
You are wrong, Nerd Man.
Title: RE: Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: couchmonkey on September 27, 2006, 06:28:17 AM
Oh no, it's my arch-nemesis, NERD MAN!  Retreat!
Title: RE:Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: TrueNerd on September 27, 2006, 11:03:31 AM
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Originally posted by: Smoke39
Half-Life 1 > Half-Life 2
also Doom > Quake
You are wrong, Nerd Man.
And here I was thinking there was no real right or wrong when it came to subjective opinions. Thank you for showing me the truth.

Gravity gun FTW.  
Title: RE: Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: KDR_11k on September 27, 2006, 10:34:01 PM
I think the difference between HL1 and 2 is immeasurable, both are equally uninteresting.
Title: RE: Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: Smoke39 on September 27, 2006, 10:38:16 PM
HL1 was at least interesting in the beginning, when there was still lots of STUFF happening.
Title: RE: Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: vudu on September 28, 2006, 08:59:04 AM
The beginning and end of HL2 was really good.  The middle dragged a bit (Ravenswood and the buggy portions, especially).

HL1 is a classic.  You shouldn't say bad things about it.  For shame.
Title: RE: Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: KDR_11k on September 28, 2006, 10:44:22 PM
Dunno, I stopped playing both becasue they didn't hold my interest. I guess the atmosphere is lacking, it just feels as dry as the Windows desktop to me.
Title: RE: Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: Kairon on November 15, 2006, 06:55:14 PM
So..uh.. IGN gave this a 9.1 even though they lambasted a whole slew of other PS3 titles.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 15, 2006, 07:57:37 PM
For the sake of spin, let's say it got to a "9" simply cuz there's no other worthy competition.  Whether it's a 9 to last gen's standards is what's questionable.

I PREDICT QUITE A FEW 9'S WILL FOLLOW UP THIS 9, SIMPLY CUZ IT'LL BE EASY TO SURPASS
Title: RE:Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: Smash_Brother on November 15, 2006, 08:06:29 PM
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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
Oh no, it's my arch-nemesis, NERD MAN!  Retreat!


Force him to flee with his one weakness...a human female who isn't his mother!

FoM looked cute, but nothing that I haven't seen rehashed seven dozen times already.
Title: RE:Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 16, 2006, 02:06:29 AM
1Up gave this a 8.5 and gamespot gave this a 8.6 here are the brief pros and cons list:


The Good: Rock-solid design borrows the best aspects from the best first-person shooters; outstanding presentation, featuring great weapons and believable environments; replayable campaign pits you against an aggressive, fairly intelligent foe; fully featured multiplayer mode offers good variety and supports up to 40 players.
The Bad: Derivative visual style and gameplay is well crafted but mostly unoriginal; the campaign's story and characters aren't well developed; two-player cooperative mode isn't available online.
Title: RE: Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: Nick DiMola on November 16, 2006, 02:21:31 AM
"gameplay is well crafted but mostly unoriginal;"

Here is where I think Wii games should be shining, instead reviewers are giving them less than good scores for ridiculous reasons. At this point, any game that gives me a new experience is a good one. Maybe everyone here hasn't been playing games since the damn 2600 but over the 20 or so years I have been gaming, games have gotten boring, especially since the N64. I am sick of the same old rehashed crap. Thank God for the Wii. If it wasn't for the Wii I don't think I would've wanted to be a part of this generation. But I guess Wii games are getting the shaft even though they are FUN. But what does fun have to do with videogames, amirite?
Title: RE:Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 16, 2006, 03:28:38 AM
Yeah I agree but even when I work at blockbuster most people when they look for a game and I recommend X game to them the first thing they ask so are the graphics really nice? The first thing I say to them even if they ask about gears of war or the 360 SCouble Agent my answer range to yeah the graphics look nice or the graphics alright but then I quickly procede the gameplay is really great and really fun but sadly their decision stands to the graphics which irks me sometimes since its sad how shallow gamers can be if they pickup a game just based on graphics alone.

Anyways the same feeling of "old" gameplay is what really makes me not want to pick up a PS3 since to me it really does feel like a 600 dollar PS3 with a lot of fancy bells and whistles that isn't a big factor to decide on a purchase so Im actually glad I got to try the PS3 because I figured out that unless a big game comes out that will make me want to buy a PS3, the 360 will be more than enough as a secondary console for me. And IGN also reported that PS3 downscales resolutions under certain circumstances.


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PS3 downscaling article

As it turns out, gamers who own older HD sets that feature only 480i, 480p, and 1080i resolution input capabilities will have to settle for the display quality being downsized as the game boots in its 480p mode rather than upscaling the image from its more desirable 720p mode to the TV's 1080i. We tested this development on older HDTV sets with games designed for 720p but not 1080i -- Resistance: Fall of Man, NHL 2K7, Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07, and Need for Speed Carbon. Sure enough, the system downshifted all four titles to 480p rather than moving up to 1080i.
Title: Re: Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: ShyGuy on January 04, 2009, 04:54:17 AM
Nathan Hale-Bump!

Tried this out for the first time tonight. I liked it more than I thought I would. FPS controls are very much like Halo, which isn't bad as far as dual analog goes, and the level design is solid. Guns feel good if a bit generic. I like the grenades. Story line is okay. I think I would rate this game higher than Halo 3.

My biggest complaint is the color palette. It should be called Brownsistance Fall of Brown.
Title: Re: Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 04, 2009, 05:05:54 AM
Nathan Hale-Bump!

Tried this out for the first time tonight. I liked it more than I thought I would. FPS controls are very much like Halo, which isn't bad as far as dual analog goes, and the level design is solid. Guns feel good if a bit generic. I like the grenades. Story line is okay. I think I would rate this game higher than Halo 3.

My biggest complaint is the color palette. It should be called Brownsistance Fall of Brown.

Level design= Go down an extremely linear path with pretty graphics to hold your attention
Title: Re: Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: ShyGuy on January 04, 2009, 05:16:43 AM
I knew bumping this thread would catch a certain someone's attention.

The level design was pretty linear but most action games are. I thought the enemy flow, the power and checkpoint placement and the alternating between wide open areas and smaller interiors was balanced pretty well. The token vehicle level didn't suck either, which was a surprise.
Title: Re: Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 04, 2009, 05:26:23 AM
I knew bumping this thread would catch a certain someone's attention.

The level design was pretty linear but most action games are. I thought the enemy flow, the power and checkpoint placement and the alternating between wide open areas and smaller interiors was balanced pretty well. The token vehicle level didn't suck either, which was a surprise.

Call of Duty 1,2,4 > Anything in resistance single player.
Title: Re: Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: ShyGuy on January 04, 2009, 12:33:22 PM
Call of Duty is very good, but my biggest beef with that series is the enemy respawn. It forces you to play the game at a certain pace, constantly moving forward. A "hanging back and clearing the field before advancing" technique will not work.

So if you typically play your FPS methodically like I do, the games start to feel very scripted.

As a token of good will to Golden Phoenix, let me say the modeling on Nathan Hale's ears is ugly.
Title: Re: Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: NWR_Lindy on January 04, 2009, 12:54:00 PM
I loved the first Resistance.  Very tight controls, fast action, and an interesting plot (to me at least).  I liked that the weapons didn't get too fantastical; the Carbine is my bread-and-butter, but the Bullseye's tag ability is also very handy (especially when playing against a Chimera team in multiplayer).  After playing Resistance regularly for months, Halo 3's multiplayer felt like walking through molasses; I couldn't stand playing it.  Resistance has a frantic pace (it reminds me of the older TimeSplitters games, actually) and your typical deathmatch is over in less than 10 minutes (especially when you have a couple of good players in a game).

My main complaints about its single-player is that all of the environments start to look the same near the end.  The ending is kinda anti-climactic as well.  They addressed some of this in R2; R2 is way more colorful and has much more varied locations.  It annoys me that R2 doesn't have a narrator like R1 does to tell you the story; you witness Hale talking to other people and the story unfolds "in front of you", so to speak.  My ideal would be the story unfolding in real-time alongside a narrator, but I'm digressing.  I loved R1 and R2 is very good as well.  The Resistance games are highly underrated in my opinion, but it's easy to get lost in a genre that contains giants like the Halo and Gears franchises.
Title: Re: Resistance Fall of Man
Post by: vudu on January 05, 2009, 02:11:15 PM
I knew bumping this thread would catch a certain someone's attention.

A big blue folder on the top of the page tends to catch the eye.  Especially when people are looking for it.  ;)